Richard Chamberlain Gets Raged Against By Gays!

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Well, one gay, anyway.

Me!

An Enquirer article points out that I'm not happy with Richard Chamberlain's recent remarks that actors should stay in the closet because there's still homophobia in the business.

That point of view deeply disappointed me.

Of course there's some homophobia, but why keep fueling those flames, as it were, by urging actors to stay secretive?

The only way to keep tumbling prejudices is to bring truths out into the open--as actors like Neil Patrick Harris and Cheyenne Jackson have done with great success.

Should light-skinned blacks pretend to be white because there's still racism out there?

Chamberlain--who came out in 2003--should realize honesty is the best policy, and besides, the landscape has dramatically changed since Dr. Kildare, the 1960s series that made him famous.

As I point out in the article, whatever the pitfalls of coming out may be, so many celebs have burst out and never looked back, saying the pros way outweight the cons.

Some say there are no cons.

And by the way, doesn't my photo look cute?


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becharm
becharm

He didn't do anything wrong by advising "romantic leading type of actors" to stay in the closest if they don't want to hurt their career. This article ablove is misleading, you can see his interview on youtube, it call Shattered Love. Just ask any girls who has big fandom over any actor, they will give you an honest answer. Would girls still drooling over Brat Pitts, Leonardo DiCaprio, Orlando Bloom, if those actors were openly gay? Of course not. If you are just a tv actor who play mostly minor roles, I don't think anybody would care if you are gay or straight.

MarkyMark
MarkyMark

I think that Chamberlain is absolutely correct from the actor's point of view - they're trying to protect their future career and earning-ability, which involves creating expensive fantasies that advertisers and the public will pay for; while the press and the public just want to be able to chew over the juicy details of their lives, irregardless of what damage it may do inside the industry. The many many many long-time closeted actors/actresses prove this point. Middle America does NOT want to know; they don't want to be jolted out of their fantasy-world.

Movielover
Movielover

Venson, you mention people like Charles N. Reily, Liberace, Paul Lynd and Johnny Mathis. I like all of them, but the first 3 are people who were not really out! They acted over the top gay and people accepted them as unthreateningly gay, but really to be more or less a joke by their foppishness. Johnny M. is still one of my favorite singers, but I don't know if he ever came out, though everyone knew/knows. Major point is that you are talking about people in the (gay lib related) distant past. past.

Venson Thomas
Venson Thomas

Richard Chamberlain, about the prettiest man I ever laid eyes on, paid his dues a long time ago. He managed to land a TV career for a time and even did an album or two. He did all this during a time when it was totally not "in" to have it known that you were gay. Thus, I think he has a right to his say. As for his coming out -- it would have meant something back in the 1960s while I was dealing with the rigors of puberty. Now, it's sort of nice to know but so what . . .

I think Mr. Chamberlain may be right. Paul Lind, Charles Nelson Reilly, Liberace worked frequently but I do not recall much about them them taking up the banner and raising their voices for the cause as it were.

What was interesting is that they appeared to understand balance and the public accepted them. For actors and gays in the entertainment fields its probably better to worry over being good at what you do and let other issues work themselves out. There are plenty of gay actors around I'm sure but not enough who can carry off being out. Alan Cumming is one of a precious few that displays any style that makes you feel proud he's out.

Even in these modern times, I don't feel much need to know who's gay unless he's asking for my phone number. What would it mean anyway? Gay men never gave me much of a feeling that they support their own as much as they still appear to be far more interested, just as always, in women who are at extremes. There must always be a girl who gets gussied up like a female drag queen or is constantly in the trows of one tragedy after another or who's good at being the super bitch. I have not had much awareness of gay men going bonkers at Johnny Mathis concerts.

No sense in getting lulled into a fool's paradise. The world is still not a friendly place for gay men. I'm happy that we are more readily able to get in the game these days and be less fearful of being jeopardized by word of our personal lives getting out. However, I think its better to be able to be at your craft. If that means not lying but merely keeping quiet about his private life by someone who's got real talent, I'm all for it. I don't care who or what you sleep with when what I'm out to be entertained.

DICKchamberlain
DICKchamberlain

how about that john travolta...? Not only married---but a fake baby, with travolta's elderly wife easily and quickly knocked up.

Musto
Musto

Thanks, Jon Boy.

As for you, tj, I never said I chose to be gay. I said I feel I became gay due to my environment.

And whatever causes it, I always said actors should be out.

egghumor
egghumor

Sorry, Rolph, I threw my television out the window years ago. No kidding. Anyway, thanks for letting me know that Mr. Chamberlain is on the show (as a brother or a sister?)

Jonster
Jonster

All the old girls like Dick and Tab waited till their 70s to come out. Things are changing, esp with the younger generation, but I don't think that much is different from the 50s. Neil Patrick Harris was about to be outed. The tabs were talking to old boyfriends and a scandal was a brewing. NPH decided to get ahead of it, that's all. A lot of girls (and grown women) want their stars to be straight in real life, not just on the screen on the off chance that one day their idol will meet them in a Stop n Shop, fall madly in love with them, and propose right there in the produce aisle.

Jon Boy
Jon Boy

Michael you do look cute in your picture darling , and as far as Richard , I don't get his remarks . Who does he think he is advising anyone of anything , because he is an actor?Frankly he needs to ZIP IT , he made his choice, he obviously misses the attention . People need to be true to themselves , be who you are . I have always stayed true to me, what you see is what you get . I have never tried to be anyone other than what I knew I was when I was a young child . Footloose and fancy free ! LOL ! I have always been reading you over the years , and thank goodness for the internet , I can still read you since I moved to the west coast many years ago . Michael Darling , keep up the great work , thanks for being true to yourself over the years , you are an original ! HUGS

TJ Wright
TJ Wright

It is almost as bad as gays saying they chose to be gay. Who would do such a thing? Oh, right, Musto (noted geneticist who famously chose to be gay) would!

rolph
rolph

He is in Brothers and Sisters, so you can't say his name means nothing.

egghumor
egghumor

The name Richard Chamberlain means little or nothing to a great percentage of living Americans. Clearly, he has struggled with his true identity for most of his adult life and continues to. (I seem to recall Dixie Carter commenting on his dilemma that several years ago; do you?)

guest
guest

I hate to say it but Chamberlain is right. NPH and Portia deRossi are the only exceptions I can think of (I doubt most people have even heard of Cheyenne). Every other out actor ends up getting typecast, playing only gay roles. And your comparison to racism is weak. Homophobia is tolerated way more than racism. You need to remember that not everyone is from New York City.

Musto
Musto

PS: Link to Enquirer article to come.

Wings
Wings

You'd think he never heard of Neil Patrick Harris.

becharm
becharm

If you want to know about Richard, watch some of his famous role like The Thorn Birds, Shogan, Count of Monte Cristo, rose and slipper, and much more. He is not only a good actor but a very humble human being, not to mention he is super good looking with a sexy voice. To be honest, I would prefer him come out and say he is Bisexual instead of just Gay. At least, that won't hurt his fan as much. Telling the world that you are gay means you are shutting the door for any one of the opposite sex.

Venson Thomas
Venson Thomas

Hi Movielover,

Don't be deceived. The past is not so past. Issues of bias as regards, race, sexual preference and gender still remain in place and prevail. Bigots still grumble about all of it but make better attempts at keeping it nice and quiet because it is not considered cool to let prejudices be known AND cause it can sometimes lose them money if word gets out.

Despite a black president and a handful of out gay artists, none of us have come as far as we may tend to think we have. Save for certain places in the country, you can live with and love someone for darn near forever and still, in a lot of places, in the event of his or her loss you can't even claim the body. And -- we just had a young kid who hadn't even had a chance to live yet throw himself off a bridge last year due to all the same old stuff.

That is why I agree with Chamberlain's caution as there's not a lot of solid ground to yet stand on. Just words.

I was a kid who literally fell out of the closet face first but, hey, I had nothing to lose then and still don't now. But, for whatever reason, my sympathy lies with those with real gifts and chances to rise. I still say you do what you have to do to keep your show on the road and avail yourself of all the best you can get. There are few who'll help you do the same.

Movielover
Movielover

P.S. Mikey, your picture is cute!

franco
franco

@ And by the way, doesn't my photo look cute?

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Excluding #2 from the list, can you pinpoint the factor(s) that applies to you MM.

Savannah Montgomery
Savannah Montgomery

Right...(Claymates come to mind)...after all, Hollywood is the fantasy factory...truth be damned.

Not that I'm espousing the closet (is that legal in NY?), but I can see the mind-set the older girls.

DICKchamberlon
DICKchamberlon

dixie carter....WOW....another big name in the history of movies!

Jon
Jon

Though I like Neil patrick he's no Richard  Chamberlain from looks to talent.And RC is intitled to live his life as he wishes...He's  millionaire and what say you Wings sitting at your keyboard !!

Movielover
Movielover

Of course, you're entitled to your opinion. But I could point out that if you're a big star, with all these fans, then you are under the microscope anyway and the Enquirer will expose your late night trysts if you dare to have any. If you know about film and actors, think about Monty Clift. Rock Hudson. Michael Jackson! Though Michael is a complicated mess of a matter. These were gifted men, who gave the world so much with their art, but were denied basic human freedoms by having to lie-lie-lie all the time about who they were and they suffered for it. If these fans love them so much, they should grant them the freedoms we all deserve, including their sexuality. These people who drool over, cry over, fantasize about actors should realize they are playing parts in stories and not expect them to be "acting" every moment of their lives. Maybe they could be judged by the content of their character rather than judging them on what or who they like to do in bed. If everything and everybody were oh-so-discreet about their personal lives, that might be different, but that is not the case. Again, it is a matter of saying gay is a valid identity and just because you may not be able to see it from across the room, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist and that gays do not deserve their place at the table. All the tables, including military, the arts (for Chrisake!), politics. You name it. You may long for the days when gay was the love that dared not speak its name. I'm glad that now it won't shut up its mouth.

Jonster
Jonster

"None of us have come as far as we may tend to think we have."

No offense but I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one. I understand why someone from a small town might be hesitant to announce his gayness. And if you fell out "face first," you have probably experienced your share of angry ignorance. But you have to admit it's been a very interesting 50 years, probably the most progressive period of time ever, at least for taxpaying minority citizens. Granted, I don't live in the deep south, or the midwest. I've always lived in large cities, but even though I suspect you are right that most people in remote areas haven't changed, you have to admit it is amazing to watch the trajectory of human civil rights since the 60s. Every once in a while our collective conscience kicks in and we make things right. Although it still may be career suicide for a romantic lead to come out of the closet, obviously gay comics and character actors have been with us forever. A couple of days ago, a gay actor won an emmy for playing an out gay man. We're on the cusp of being able to serve our country and get married. Things really are better now Venson. And none of it would have happened if people didn't start coming out of the closet after Stonewall.

Movielover
Movielover

But. Venson. Things will never change if people continue to be ashamed of and stigmatized by the same old stuff. True, things are not perfect yet, but look how far things have come since 1969. It takes courage and strategy sometimes, but just accepting discrimination perpetuates it. As a boy who fell out of the closet face first, as you say, doesn't it seem like others like you, who may have choices about how/when to come out, should stick up for others like you, by sticking up for themselves? Parallels can be made for the struggles of race and religion. This is who you are (may be) and you have every right to own up and say, "So. What's it to you?" You can't just take it. If you do, there will be a point where you can't take it anymore. The attitudes of straight men in the military is a good example. They are generally young and most don't care if they serve with gay people or not. This is because things HAVE changed for the general population and it's been earned with taking the risks, etc.

Venson Thomas
Venson Thomas

Hiya Jonster,

I don't feel I'm saying, 'don't come out,' but instead, play the game when you must. Shooting your wad for the sake of principle is not always good at the box office or the bank.

I don't think people looking to be in the spotlight are in any way obliged to bare their souls to the public. All they owe me or anyone is a performance. Their sexuality should be left on a need-to-know-basis. And the only people who need to know that are the dates they haul home. However, I'll concede this one thing. I feel that the idea of "gay" has become so common place that the press can't get enough of rise out of the public to whip up the good old feeding frenzies they used to.

Honestly, as for me, my world is not a better place now I know Elton John is gay although if Brad Pitt were maybe it would be.

I have had my share of nasty dealings with little people who felt they could feel bigger by deriding me but I've lived here in the city for a long time. What I've loved is the benefit of automatic anonymity it provides just because it's so huge. You don't often find yourself bothered IF you can foot the bill. Nobody knows whose car is parked in your yard 'cause you don't have a yard.

During the course of my career endeavors I've never been asked outright if I'm gay and I've never felt a pressing need to pass information on as to whether I was or was not. I learned long ago there's quite often not a lot to share on that level with most straight folks anyway. They can have a hard time processing what they can't get their heads around. They'll yak a blue streak to you about their spouses/significant others and the lives they lead but try the same out on them and they begin shuffling side to side and all you can get out of them is a "Hmm, isn't that something," or "Well. -- how do you like that."

I know lots of straight people here in my neighborhood. I like them, they like me and I'm sure they assume I'm gay though they've never seen me strolling the avenue here with man, woman or beast. But, I have yet to have a discussion with any of the neighbors about sexuality on any level There appears to be an unspoken understanding that we just won't go there.

I'm certainly glad for the gay man that won the Emmy but the first thing that came to mind after your mention was why didn't two gay men get to do Brokeback Mountain? And -- don't call the law on me since I've sinned but I just watched a surreptitiously acquired copy of "I Love You Phillip Morris." Carey and McGregor's performances were wonderful but here again two presumably straight actors got the roles. What does that say about Hollywood and the issue of homosexuality on screen? It feels almost like watching actors do schtick in black face. Do movie makers -- meaning the money guys -- fear that actually gay actors portraying gay roles might make the story and plot a little too real and cause the general public to gag? Were the straight guys' taking on the roles meant to signify that the whole thing was really only pretend? I hope I'm wrong but, come to think of it, I can only recall of a handful of major film roles to date where a professed gay actor or actors have have landed gay roles.

Nope, here we are a little over 40 years after Stonewall with still a long way to go.

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