Ryan and Tatum's Show: Way Better Than You'd Think

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I have a deep distrust for most reality shows, especially ones in which people seek to heal their personal relationships in front of a camera.

But Ryan and Tatum O'Neal have always struck me as charismatic and fascinating people, and their Ryan & Tatum show on OWN is a big notch above most other televised attempts at celebrity reconciliation.

For one thing, these two are smart and complicated (if often lost) and don't tend to devolve into the screechy "You suck!" kind of theatrics you see on other shows.

When they're seen talking to shrinks, they really get to the heart of their regrets, Tatum upset that Dad can't see how insensitive he can be, while Ryan is pissed his Oscar-winning daughter says he abused her (hardly the only abuse accusations the man has ever gotten).

As they haggle it out, the tears on this show seem real.

Both parties' "truths" come off authentic (with Tatum's coming off more authentic).

And though it's only a paper moon, I really want these two to work it out.

But I could have done without the scene where Ryan talks to Farrah's grave.

Ugh.


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customer
customer

 Tatum should try to move forward already her dad will not be here for long and he is old now..

Rburke
Rburke

I really thought in some of the episodes they came along way together.  Years of regrets, years of issues, years of not talking to each other will not get resolved overnight.  I beleive they moved forward alot in a short period of time for this series.  When they are progressing there is so much hope and when they have setbacks, it's so sad.  I would love to see a season 2 on this as they both can work on communication.  Tatum needs to not fling off the handle but learn to walk away when she gets into her melancholy state especially when Ryan talks about Farrah.  She can be there to support and listen to him, but also needs to let her dad know when she has had enough that day - - - this was very apparent in the episode set at the Smithsonian/Washington DC.  End was very hopeful and they both need to be patient with each other and allow each other to step away when things are said in a hurtful way.  Later come back to talk or use therapists to help at their next session to move forward.  What were you feeling, what were the triggers, how can we move on?  I sure hope there's a season 2 as this is a real struggling relationship with regrets, with their own realities and reflects on "facets" of our own family relationships; not mirrors, but facets adn that's what keeps us tuned-in.  I believe that communication is  such an easy concept but the most diffilcult to do.  I sure hope to see a Season 2.  Great show and the editing is wonderful.  I'm Tatum's age and I see that she was a very intense child and really needed her Dad, but at the same time, Dad had his issues and he made lots of mistakes, but he was doing his best, but he wasn't always at his best. I like what he said there are people that say "I have no regrets and  I wouldn't change a thing if I had to do it over" and he says, I do have regrets and there are people that can stay together for a long time and I would have done it differently"  That was a very vulnerable statement.  I just love the vulnerability this show displays - done much better than the Sarah Ferguson or Shania Twain in terms of showing the vulnerabilities.

Sylvia
Sylvia

I have gotten so hooked into this show. The O'Neal family has such a history of drug abuse and pain.  Ryan seems so vulnerable, even though he is probably thecause of alot of the problems within the family.  He seems so lost without Farrah Fawcett.Tatum is a very smart and wonderful person and has been through more pain thananyone should have to endure.The show seems very real and I hope it has a second season so they can resolve theirissues and make peace with each other.

Donnagoose_62
Donnagoose_62

I just got to see the ending of the one show I watched.  It didn't go well.  They both need to realize they have two different versions of reality of what happened and respect that.  Ryan needs to take responsibility and she needs to not be so dramatic with her wording that really tics him off.  I think he hears words that make him go off the deep end too quickly  instead of just taking it all in and understanding her and she as well needs to do the same.  So frustrating to watch because they get so close and then defensivness and guilt set in and it sounds like thesame old fight and stubborness they have been having for years..too bad.  :(  I think they are both geniune though and the show does a good job it seems like and not jsut for rating.

Kbrunette
Kbrunette

Classic ACA behavior on Ryan's part.  Would like to see the counselors address these behaviors on screen.  ACA/Adult Children of Alcoholics.  Even if Ryan's parents did not drink, if their parents were substance abusers, then Ryan's parents carried on the dysfunctional behaviors in the family dynamics with Ryan.  It is not uncommon for substance abuse to skip a generation.  BUT- the bad behaviors/coping mechanism are handed down.  Until ACA/this is addresses, the cycle continues to be passed down.  Kudos to both of them for having the courage to expose their lives to those of us who can learn from them.  Even if they are getting paid AND they are actors, the story line/drama can be an educational tool, if one is open to listening.  Lots of truth in the series to be learned about how our "child/parent/adult" needs nurturing and love.  Tatum [as an adult] is just attempting to resolve Ryan's parental abandonment, so she can heal her hurt child within.  She may never get the closure she is seeking from Ryan [his apology] but the counselors are guiding her to find her own answers.  And in the process, Ryan has the courage to "show up", even in the midst of his own grief/loss of Farrah.    

Donnagoose_62
Donnagoose_62

I think you are right on with your analysis.  I am not sure of the ACA behaviour but figure we all have different types of dysfunction that gets learned and handed down.  I just always think it is interesting that as a family with a few kids we all grow up in the same house yet depending on our own born given bents and personalitlies we might all have different versions of what we have experience as a child. 

Donnagoose_62
Donnagoose_62

I have just started watching in today and am excited for both of them.  She sounds so healthy and really wanting to get to the heart of her emotions without the use of her past addiction...Just in that I am so excited for her.   Ryan has been okay on this episode but he needs to just accept how his daughter saw everything and realize that is her reality and it doesn't make it right or exactly how it happend but it's what she felt and was driven by..

Becky
Becky

I have watched every show since the beginning.  I think Tatum was a spoiled child who got mad when she didn't get her way and now wants to promote her books via this show.  Everyone has disappointments in their lives but we should all grow up and get over them. It is way past time for her to do the same. She is blaming her father for mistakes she made and at the same time asking her Dad to take responsibility for his mistakes.  When is she going to grow up and admit she made her own decisions. Time for her to take responsibility for her actions.

Marie
Marie

I like the show, also.  It has been growing on me more and more.  I root for them and hope they can have a decent relationship together.  I think Ryan still looks good! 

Joyce from florida
Joyce from florida

tatum you are so authentic and down to earth. you can not fix your dad. move forward i admire you tremendously.

cjw
cjw

I have been watching the Ryan & Tatum series this summer and enjoyed it so far.  But I think Tatun NEEDS to get on with forgiving her 70 year old father and putting the past behind them.  Yes, she hopes to profit by remembering the past.  My father was a very disagreeable alcoholic who made the end months of my mother's life with cancer very disappointing.  BUT after she was gone I learned to appreciate having his presence in my life for 9 more years.  You can't expect a 70 or 80 year old parent to remember history the way you want them to.  It's like childbirth.  When I was young I couldn't believe my mother couldn't give answers to my questions.  But then I learned... with age and time you do forget.  Tatum needs to let her father be whatever he is and love him 'as is'!!!

Maryfullofgrace
Maryfullofgrace

Even though they seem and behavemore civilized, Ryan's huge ego won't allow for the fact that his poor and ,now, grown kids needed and still need him and take the responsibility for being the one who is the fucker and not the fuckee.But you are so right. The show is really good . And in the light of what happened today, your heart just breaks for that family. I have to go now, and watch "Toddlers and Tiaras" . Now, talk about class!tR hU Y

Stepkwar
Stepkwar

You can't be serious. This sounds awful!

Southern Dave
Southern Dave

Oprah should get off her butt and start getting more cable systems to pick up OWN as part of a basic package. Where is all this much-talked-about power she has?

Days
Days

I've only watched one show. It seems to me that Tatum is spending too much time "working" on her father's issues instead of her own. As Ryan said, it's hard to be around someone who is constantly throwing in your face what a lousy parent you were. At some point, Tatum, you need to take responsibility for yourself and stop trying to "fix" your dad.

Movielover
Movielover

Oh, yeah.  Love Story.  Pukey hokum.

Movielover
Movielover

Whatever else about Ryan, he was one of the cutest men ever (What's Up Doc era).  Paper Moon was a really good movie too.  I can't recall one other thing he did though. 

Michael Singh
Michael Singh

I don't think much of Ryan Oneal. Sure he was sexy in the 70's. Creepy parenting. I hope Tatum gets something good from this experience besides money.

Savannah Montgomery
Savannah Montgomery

The whole thing is too much of a train-wreck for me to even consider watching...and I'm not being snarky either.

Melinda9
Melinda9

Thanks for posting about it. I was intrigued when I saw it listed as an upcoming show when OWN launched, but since then I forgot all about it.

Pewter
Pewter

I agree it's pretty riveting. When Ryan said "I don't have years left" to work this out, it was haunting.

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