Bill Murray Is Not Necessarily Loved By Everyone

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A new book called Low Budget Hell: Making Underground Movies With John Waters by writer/producer/production manager Robert Maier offers proof of that.

Maier remembers when Bill Murray came aboard as the person to sing the "love theme" of John Waters's 1981 Odorama epic Polyester.

"John was livid," he remembers.

"He hated Bill Murray. He hated Saturday Night Live. He hated Caddyshack.

"This might seem strange because they were young, edgy, and irreverent artists, and it would seem they would be John's people.

"But Murray was a mass-audience TV phenomenon, while John was an underground and dangerous artist.

"John bragged at every opportunity that he never even watched TV.

"John's humor was not doofusy like Bill Murray's.

"John was angry, gay, and shocking, and he didn't want it diluted."

Well, Murray sang the song nonetheless, and Maier wasn't sure if he had done it so off-key for the humor, to mimic a lousy suburban lounge singer, or because he simply couldn't sing.

But he also admits it turned out to be "funny and very appropriate"!

Glad it didn't turn out to smell like sweaty sneakers.


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Troofire
Troofire

Waters is a fake too.  He's made a career out of his early outrageous films, but has failed to follow through.  His films became safe and boring while touting his reputation as a renegade. He's charming and erudite but so disappointing.

Casey Scott
Casey Scott

Of course the irony is that John kvetched about being "underground" while making POLYESTER, which signaled his move into the mainstream. Debbie Harry sang on the soundtrack, too, and by then had several hits on Billboard. How was she underground?

Southern
Southern

What I can say about Bill Murray is this: There are some actors who value the world they live in. They recognize the blessings they've been given out of grace, and realize that merit is only an unrightously concepted illusion derived of self-rightous indignation. I haven't seen those qualities in Bill Murray. There are a lot of things about Bill Murray, but he's never spoken about any of the challenges he's had in his life to any effect of interest in helping shepherd anyone else out there who may share his challenges. Instead, Bill Murray is an image.  He's even hiring a social media manager to help him maintain that "image".  Instead of being an open person who shows the world who he is, he'd rather be a fake. I can pray for a person like that.  I can care about a person like that. I cannot respect a person like that. That kind of selfishnes just cannot be respectable. Mr. Murray, I understand you might be ill.  I don't know that for sure, and hope not. If you are, you'd better get right with God because at present sir, I fear your eternal soul is in mortal danger.  God is not a just-in-case "catch me" net.  He's God.  Know Him, and know Him well. If you aren't obeying Him and following His character, you don't know him. If your health is in danger, the day you stand at God's throne is not the time for you to have regrets for woulda, shoulda, coulda's where your relationship with God is concerned.  Repent.  Getting rid of your pride is the first place to start

blindmalice
blindmalice

Never mind Bill Murray.  Who the hell is Robert Maier and why did he feel the need to write a bad-mouthing book about John Waters?  There is noone like John Waters.  His take on anything is so spot on, and he happened to become famous simply by showing some of us (esp. Provincetowners) that we're not crazy for thinking our demented thoughts, living crazy lives, or laughing at the absurdity of modern American life.  And if Mr Maier clung to his coattails for employment, then so be it, but STFU.  Ok,  ill calm down now.

Barkley
Barkley

Or was it Charles Ludlum?

Barkley
Barkley

Never got the love for Bill either.  "Caddyshack" sucks and so do all his other films.  Remember Bill & a bud coming to a Charles Busch show in West Village and making a scene bringing in a pizza to the theater. 

Starzzzz
Starzzzz

Bill Murray sings the theme song to a John waters film? How did I miss this? Is it on his resumee?

Odell
Odell

I LOVE Polyester--and was sorry to hear that the cost of producing all those Odorama cards made it impossible to make a profit on it.

Gregorama
Gregorama

I have to agree with you, to a point.  In his defense, I've always said that on the basis of his early-career triptych of masterworks (Pink Flamingos, Female Trouble, Desperate Living, and perhaps Polyester), if he had never made another film, he'd be considered one of the great comic "auteurs".  But with each ensuing film of the past several years (especially his last film, to date, A Dirty Shame, which will be hard to top as his all-time worst) it's become so difficult to defend his work.  He seems to have become his own worst enemy in ruining his own legacy.  What in the hell happened?  Waters himself has said that a lot of wind went out of his sails when his two greatest stars, Edith Massey and Divine, died.  I (as well as the many other slavish Waters fans worldwide) keep the faith that somehow he'll return to his "roots" and give us just one more classic of his earlier ilk. 

Troofire
Troofire

What a crock of steaming shit.

Flco
Flco

Read the book.  It's respectful of Waters and his work.  Tells a few funny secrets, but if you can't take a joke, STFU.

Viv
Viv

I don't think he's really dissing John Waters. He's just stating that John didn't watch TV and was an edgy, underground artist who didn't like doofusy, mainnstream humor.

Savannah Montgomery
Savannah Montgomery

I didn't know that either and I like them both.  But to this day, I've never seen Caddyshack, the whole premise was too frat-boy for me, but I've enjoyed Murray's other films.

Lost Weekend
Lost Weekend

Still have my Odorama card, and, yes, after 30 years, there's still some odor left in that card!

nostradavid
nostradavid

Pecker was the funniest look at the art world I've ever seen. John can still write & direct a great movie.

Gregorama
Gregorama

A minor clarification...Tab Hunter actually sings the title song, "Polyester"...Bill Murray sings the "love theme" "The Best Thing" later in the film, as Todd Tomorrow (Hunter) is romancing Francine (Divine).  And from every person I've ever spoken to who's either met or worked with him, Bill Murray is a first class asshole.

Sausalito
Sausalito

Um, Pecker was how many years ago????

Musto
Musto

I corrected it to make it "love theme."

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