Jonathan Frid, RIP: Gay?

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Jonathan Frid, who so memorably played vampire Barnabas Collins in the daytime soap Dark Shadows, has passed, leaving behind a personal life as cloaked as Barnabas himself.

After all, as it says on imdb.com, Frid was "never married, believing the life of an actor was fraught with insecurities."

And as my friend William Love--a true-blue Dark Shadows aficionado--remembers, Frid withdrew whenever personal questions were asked.

Frid's familiar line about his character was: "I don't play a vampire. I play a man with a secret."

That seemed to apply in real life, too.

Frid always came off like a fey cross between Oscar Wilde and Edgar Allan Poe, but his culty female fans through the years always argued "He loves women!" or "He's asexual. He doesn't believe in having sex!"

And there was the hot guy William knows who once approached Frid as a fan, only to have the actor coo, "Let's talk about you."

(Another male I know claims Frid once chased him for sex, but the guy tends to have a vivid imagination, so take it with a grain of vampire dust.)

Anyway, did Frid leave the earth out of sheer excitement over the upcoming Dark Shadows movie he appears in--which looks like it's been turned into a pumped-up fish-out-of-water comedy--or was he dodging a bullet?

We'll never know.

We'll never know a lot of things.

Update: But from the info above, combined with the insider comments gleaned as a result of this blog, we do know: Yep, he was gay!


PS: Thanks to Glenn Queen for finding this amazing shot.

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And thanks to William for this one:

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caprice122163
caprice122163

Jonathan frid was shrewd, no one knows who he was with sexually male or female...he stated often he was  sexual abstention a celibate.

nckersey
nckersey

I was recently told there this stupid discussion going on here and somehow my name got dragged into it.  First, Carol, I did not and would not have had any "romance" with Jonathan Frid.  How absurd.  I did not handle his personal affairs, his manager did and later he paid someone else to do that for him.  I was a collaborator of his on his one man shows and his personal assistant.  That turned into a friendship and, believe or not, many men and women have platonic relationships and enjoy close friendships.  I have been lucky to have enjoyed quite a few in this manner with men younger and older than myself.  


And to you RM McFly a/k/a Mary Easley, I do not know what your beef with me is as I have never done a thing to you but I do wish you would grow up and out of the petty high school nonsense.  As usual, you don't know what you are talking about regarding me.  And why when you talk so tough are you afraid to use your real name rather than some fictional character?  Why is that?

rm_mcfly
rm_mcfly

Caprice u r in DENIAL! JF was gay! I was personal friends with Louie Edmonds and that pic was NOT a DS cast party!! Geez! Where DO u get ur intel, the same place as where George W did about the non-existant WMD's in Iraq?! That was one of Louie's pix of them on Fire Island. He told me many stories about he and Jon going to gay bars back in the day! And my late friend Craig Hamrick, who wrote Louie's biography and was gay himself used to c JF in gay bars in Manhattan ALL THE TIME in the late 90's before he moved back to Canada. It's sad that Jon had to be in the closet, it's even sadder that ppl like u r the reason!

rickw12
rickw12

Jonathan was gay, but like many in his generation, he kept it private. That was his choice and his right. Its better for gay men and women today but unfortunately there is still much ignorance and prejudice around -too bad.  I remember him saying once when asked to comment on some of the more outrageous artists and musicians, "they dare to be different". He, like most gay men and women was able to be accepting and open-minded with others because he knew what it was like to be different. I loved his talent and even more his kindness and grace when I had the pleasure of meeting him. He created an iconic character and thrilled millions with his portrayal of Barnabas Collins. He loved acting and was always grateful for and  to his fans.  He lived a long and productive life and I will always admire him. Godspeed Jonathan-you were the best !

caprice122163
caprice122163

http://lorrainestheplaza.0catch.com/fridboy.jpgJonathan Frid going to the Playboy Club.http://www.flickr.com/photos/25692985@N07/4341505217/1969 Barnabas Collins Jonathan Frid compiled by Jonathan Frid shares 100 photographs and his membership with the Playboy Club.

Jonathan Frid was a member of the Hugh Hefner Playboy Club 1960....before Dark Shadows the TV Series. I have never known a gay man being interested seeing pretty young women dressed as a bunny and subscribe to Playboy Magazines.

caprice122163
caprice122163

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_Jonathan_frid_gay

No, Jonathan Frid is not gay. He practiced celibacy. He has not the desire for physical relationship with a man or a woman, although he has many friends of both sex.He had lived this way for a long time. He has a strong religious beliefs of the Presbyterian faith even at one time desire being a Presbyterian Minister before finding acting was his true calling and finding the role of Barnabas Collins of Dark Shadows.Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_Jonathan_frid_gay#ixzz2Dw7Z2qfT

caprice122163
caprice122163

Jonathan Frid did have a friend that was very close to him, took care of all business affairs, her name was Nancy. Rumors by some fans, they were more than just friends.. She worked for him for more than thirty years.

caprice122163
caprice122163

@rickw12  No he was not gay, He was celibate. He stated so many interviews of the 1960s' he was member of Playboy club and liked looking at pretty women.

Ankimo
Ankimo

@caprice122163 You're the biggest idiot I've ever seen post here. A teen magazine is not going to say the truth, especially in 1970!  Moron, wake up and smell the coffee! Frid was gay; and so what if he was? Accept it. What are you? Some kind of religious freak?

rickw12
rickw12

No. It was well known by all those close to him that he was gay. For his generation there was/is still a sad taboo about being gay. He just kept it quiet. By the way, there are gay/lesbian members in all branches of Faith, including Presbyterian.  As for him being a member of Hefners Playboy club-that still doesn't mean he was not gay-it just meant he had friends in show biz. Accept him for who he was-he would do the same for you.

rm_mcfly
rm_mcfly

If ur talking about the Nancy I know ur dead wrong, LMAO!!! There's something u don't know about her and Frid actually diassociated himself from her over a decade ago! But thanx for the chuckles tonight! ;). Smooches!!

anonymous
anonymous

@caprice122163  omg that was NEVER a rumor.  Nancy might like that to be a rumor, but absolutely not.

rm_mcfly
rm_mcfly

Ur in denial dude! I knew Louie Edmonds outside of fandom and he told me Jonathan was gay! They often went to gay bars together back in the day!

rickw12
rickw12

No. It was well known by all those close to him that he was gay.He was very close friends with Louis Edmonds, (Roger on the show) whowas also gay and quite proud of it. For his generation there was/is still a sad taboo about being gay. He just kept it quiet.  As for him being a member of Hefners Playboy club-that still doesn't mean he was not gay-it just meant he had friends in show biz. Accept him for who he was-he would do the same for you

caprice122163
caprice122163

@rickw12  Presbyterians were highly against homosexuals in 1960s' Today they are accepting of homosexuals.

caprice122163
caprice122163

@rm_mcfly teen magazine stated it was a cast party of 1968.  I wish I knew name of the teen magazine. I am certain it no longer available but maybe on ebay.





caprice122163
caprice122163

@rm_mcfly The teen magazine photograph this photo. Look at Jonathan Frid he is 44, Louis Edmond is 45 not any older then the series. In 1970s' Jonathan Frid gain weight and hair grew longer. Louis Edmond loss all his hair and thinned down to nothing



cynthia.curran8
cynthia.curran8

@caprice122163 @rickw12 

That's not true, Edmonds was gay but he played Langleyy on All my Children and had more romantic scenes with Ruth Warrack on All My Children. As for Joshua Collins he was a cold character more interested in the family business than Women or Men, a workaholic character who was lucky to have had two kids. Frid might have been bisexual or not that sexual I don't know or just plain gay.

rm_mcfly
rm_mcfly

Bullshit! U r a f'ing liar!

rm_mcfly
rm_mcfly

Caprice, you are in DENIAL!! JF was gay!! And that pic on the beach was NOT a DS cast party! Jon and Louie were out on Fire Island with friends one weekend when the pic was taken. That pic was part of Louie's personal collection and he told my friends and I hilarious stories about that weekend when we all visited him at his home on Long Island. I knew Louie personally and he told me many stories about he and Jon hitting up gay bars together back in the day. Also, my late friend Craig Hamrick, who wrote Louie's biography, and who was gay himself, often ran into Jon in gay bars in the late 90's before he moved home to Canada! Get over it and like Rick said, accept him for who, and what he was. A closeted homosexual man who was kind and compassionate and talented. Geez!

caprice122163
caprice122163

@rickw12 By the way, You never find a boy toy in Jonathan Frid's life or an a child outside of wedlock. He was careful if you know what I mean. He told everyone interview he was a celibate. He practice celibacy. He abstain from sex with a man or woman during the last thirty years.

caprice122163
caprice122163

@rickw12 Louis Edmond did not like working with women, it showed. He refused to have any ounce of romance with a woman character on Dark Shadows. He did not like praying Barnabas' father, Joshua.

rickw12
rickw12

...and why that makes him not gay...I don't know. Gay.

caprice122163
caprice122163

@rickw12 The cast of party of 1968 was photograph for a teen magazine. Others cast members were there such as Lara Parker,  Kathryn Leigh Scott, Alexandre Moltke, Joan Bennett. Teen Magazine was I think was Tiger Beat or Teen Beat or Teen Now etc.

caprice122163
caprice122163

@rickw12  Interview of 1960s' Jonathan Frid claimed to be a celibate and proud of it. Do you know what celibate means?

caprice122163
caprice122163

@rickw12 No Louis Edmonds did not care of Jonathan Frid as a lover. He was indifferent. This photo was a cast party of 1968. Jonathan Frid loved to look women, he was a member of the playboy club, he was a regular visitor in 1960 and he purchases the magazines on a monthly bases for last fifty years.

caprice122163
caprice122163

@rm_mcfly KLS had written many books about recommendation to Dan Curtis and all who were involved about accepting Jonathan Frid in the role of Barnabas Collins. Bert Convey could not come across as scary romantic is what the role was called for.








rm_mcfly
rm_mcfly

Really??!! Gee, thanks for telling us all something we didn't already know! :P

rm_mcfly
rm_mcfly

No , she didn't. Take ur meds and shut up!

rm_mcfly
rm_mcfly

Caprice, ur an idiot! DC didn't hire JF bcos KLS told him too, he didn't even hire him, Bob Costello did! DC was in London at the time and sent back a pic to Costello of Bert Convey! That's who DC wanted! Costello said F that and hired Frid! DC was shocked to c Frid in the studio on his first day!! R u sure ur a DS fan, cos u don't know shit about the show!

caprice122163
caprice122163

@rickw12 Jonathan Frid love look at pretty women, this is why he was a member of the playboy club in 1960. He was friends with Hugh Hefffner.

rickw12
rickw12

.... very interesting, although,I'm not sure it is accurate. In any event Jonathan Frid was gay. Te cast members and his close friend knew it. He was definitely NOT celebate. He lived a very full life.

caprice122163
caprice122163

@rickw12 The playboy club was in New York open 1960, he had become a regular member, he liked looking at pretty women. Kathryn Leigh Scott was a playboy bunny at the time, she informed Dan Curtis to hire him as Barnabas Collins. Remember Kathryn Leigh Scott was first to be hire as Maggie and Josette.

rickw12
rickw12

..maybe he was hoping there would be naked men in the picture with them. Gay. Sorry.

caprice122163
caprice122163

@rm_mcfly She has a yahoogroup dedicated to Jonathan Frid of the same name Jonathan Frid.

rm_mcfly
rm_mcfly

Ok, you've just confirmed it's the same Nancy and she did NOT speak for him these last few years! Get ur facts straight!

caprice122163
caprice122163

@anonymous You are mistaken about the coffin. He never did, he slept in a bed....you are confused with the actor Bela Lugosi, he slept in a coffin. Jonathan Frid was Openly about being a Celibacy. This is not the same as being homosexual. He abstained from sex. If you have proof, he had a male lover where is he? Show the photo. He did not like Louis Edmond...this photo is still part of a teen magazine about the tv show Dark Shadows.


anonymous
anonymous

@anonymous Frid was gay. I have a good friend that he and Frid shared friends in common. He had been to Frids apartment in the sixties. Frid was openly gay with his friends. My friend found the most interesting thing in his bed room, a coffin! Frid slept in a coffin!

rm_mcfly
rm_mcfly

Ok, that Nancy is NOT in her 80's, she was one of the kids who 'ran home from school' to watch DS. She's in her early 50's now! Geez!

rm_mcfly
rm_mcfly

Ok, Doug and Ken Frid, Jonathan's older brothers, preceded him in death! So they were NOT at his death bed a year ago! U must have worked for George W about the time of the intel report of the fictictious WMD's! Ur just cracking me up with ur BS!

caprice122163
caprice122163

@rm_mcfly  I do not know Nancy's last name. I know she is same age or younger than he. Some of the fans see romance between them although it is respectable in front of the camera.






caprice122163
caprice122163

@rm_mcfly  Nancy is Jonathan Frid's spokes person if he is going to be at Dark Shadows Festival or not. She has spoke for him for over thirty years. She was with him as well as his nephews and brothers.




rm_mcfly
rm_mcfly

His nephew Don Frid took care if him, NOT Nancy!

caprice122163
caprice122163

@anonymous Lara Parker enjoyed Jonathan Frid and his hugs at the Johnny Depp's Dark Shadows. He had to be right mind to sign the contract to be in the movie. Johnny Depp talked to him for hours, praising his acting ability and he is reason we making this movie.

anonymous
anonymous

@caprice122163 @anonymous Oh so everything Lara Parker said was untrue.  The tantrums, the screaming, the looking for his island.  Gotcha.  Nice to have my facts straight.  Good luck.

caprice122163
caprice122163

@anonymous Jonathan Frid did not have dementia, he was able to sign a contract with Johnny Depp's Dark Shadows. His big problem was unable to walk, he needed a cane.

anonymous
anonymous

@caprice122163 @anonymous  Jonathan was very old, its public knowledge now that he had dementia at that time.  That's the only way it would have happened! 

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