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By Robert Sietsema, Tuesday, Apr. 28 2009 @ 4:15PM
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The Big Apple Barbecue Block Party has grown to be one of the great culinary events of the summer. This year the 7th annual edition will be held on June 13th and June 14th in Madison Square, from 11 am till 7 pm, which is two hours longer than the previous year. As usual, the collection of barbecues presents a mixed bag--some outstanding in their barbecue sub-genres, some totally lackluster. Entire American barbecue styles are missing (Kentucky mutton, as an example), and one wonders just how the participants are selected, since any random aficionado could probably do better. That said, there's some solid barbecue to be had from far-flung places, and the way the festival is run has been improving over the years.

The roster of barbecues has just been announced. Here are my notes on the participants, with a letter grade awarded based on my interest in trying their 'cue. Note that I haven't been to all of the places, and often had to rely on extraneous info, or info based on my own tastings at the festival in previous years. Be forewarned that I'm a barbecue traditionalist, and prefer old-fashioned places using time-honored barbecue styles. I remain unimpressed by barbecue competition champions, who win by slipping some blackberry jam into their marinade, or by relying on gloppy sauces. Texas barbecue is my benchmark.

my analysis, after the jump

Blue Smoke, New York, NY (Kansas City ribs and pickles): Owned by Danny Meyer, the organizer of the block party, Blue Smoke tries hard and does a good job, but offers too many styles to be great at them all. A perennial entrant, its line is usually very short for decent 'cue. B

Hill Country, New York, NY (Beef brisket): This barbecue channels Kreuz Market in Lockhart, Texas, and produces a 90% authentic facsimile, even importing sausages from Kreuz. Which poses the question, why not just include Kreuz (or Smitty's or Black's), which was done in previous years? A-

Baker's Ribs, Dallas, TX (St. Louis style ribs and jalapeno coleslaw): Balderdash! St. Louis ribs don't come from Dallas, they come from St. Louis. I went to high school in Dallas and never heard of this place, which offers such nontraditional items on its sprawling menu as beef-stuffed baked potatoes and boneless smoked chicken breasts. I prefer the original location of Sonny Bryan's. C+

BlackJack Barbecue, Charleston, SC (Pulled pork shoulder and coleslaw): Everyone knows the barbecue is much better in North Carolina than South Carolina, and Charleston's BlackJack was mediocre when I tried it a couple of years ago. I'd stick with Bessinger's. B-

Big Bob Gibson Bar-B-Q, Decatur, AL (Pulled pork shoulder and beans): This perennial participant in the block party just doesn't deserve the distinction, relying on barbecue sauce for much of its effect. B-

Martin's Bar-B-Que Joint, Nashville, TN (Western Tennessee Style Hog with sweet pickles): Chowhounds seem to like this place, but it seems more notable for its beef brisket than for its pig. Once again, a modern place trying to please everyone with several different barbecue styles. B+

17th Street Bar & Grill, Murphysboro, IL (Baby back ribs and beans): Jeffrey Steingarten raves about this place, but I won't hold that against it. Once again, the place offers non-traditional 'cue in a nontraditional place. B

The Pit, Raleigh, NC (Whole hog & coleslaw): According to a friend of mine who lives in Raleigh and knows her 'cue: "Mark and I would not put The Pit or Ed Mitchell in our top 15 NC barbecue places. Probably not even in the top 20. It's just not that good. And the sides are awful." C+

Ubon's "Champions Choice," Yazoo City, MS (Pulled pork shoulder and coleslaw): Another frequent participant that doesn't deserve to be there. The shoulder is a flavorless steaming mass, and my even my friends in Mississippi agree that there's no good barbecue there. C-

Jim 'N Nick's Bar-B-Q, Birmingham, AL (Homemade smoked sausage with pimento cheese and saltines). This place is a chain, which is one strike against it; however, it's a supporter of the Southern Foodways Alliance and some chowhounds seem to love it. B

The Salt Lick BBQ, Driftwood, TX (Beef brisket, sausage, and coleslaw): I've eaten at this Austin area barbecue many times over 20 years, but I can think of a dozen places I'd rather eat barbecue at in the Austin area. Famous for smoking its ribs over an open brick pit, not a particularly good idea. B+

Dinosaur Bar-B-Que, New York, NY (Pulled pork shoulder and beans): Way too much pulled pork at the festival! Dinosaur skulked into town a few years ago, a branch of a beloved Syracuse-area roadhouse. While the food there is fine in context, it doesn't qualify as true 'cue here. It's just not smoky enough, and their sauce is laced with liquid smoke. C

Rack & Soul, New York, NY (Babyback ribs and beans): Why so many New York barbecues? Does it demonstrate the power of publicists? I like this Upper West Side place well enough, but it isn't world class by any means. B-

Wilson's BBQ, Fairfield, CT (Texas style brisket & coleslaw): Though Michael Stern observes, "Nothing I've tasted at Wilson's eclipses barbecue in its natural habitat," he goes on to describe it as enjoyable, and I'm giving this fish out of water the benefit of the doubt. B-

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Comments (25)

DailyPep says:

I'm surprised Wildwood BBQ at 19th and Park isn't involved. I thought they hired the old pit master from Hill Country.

Anyway, I went to the block party last year and it was a blast. See you there!

Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 6:53AM
Robert SietsemaAuthor Profile Page says:

I think there are too many barbecues from New York, anyway -- 4 out of 14, and NY is just starting to be a decent barbecue town. I'd like to see Fette Sau participate.

Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 9:53AM
mmmmm BBQ says:

I highly recommend Indigo smoke in Montclair, NJ. Have they ever participated. Also, a place called The Whole Hog in Little Rock, AR.

Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 10:03AM
Robert SietsemaAuthor Profile Page says:

I love Whole Hog! There's a great barbecue in Blytheville, Arkansas, too. That great barbecue state has been completely ignored.

Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 10:14AM
yum1 says:

Ed Mitchell let us take all the crackling we could carry last year. I'll defer to your friend's opinions re: NC 'cue, but I have to give him a shout-out for that.

Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 12:58PM
mmmmm BBQ says:

Robert,

Great blog! I am a first time reader (and BBQ freak) admittedly...very nice job. I plan on attanding the block party based on your review. As they say, even with some middlin cue, how bad can the worst BBQ you've ever had be?? Finding ANYONE (even someone knowledgable in things cue like yourself) who has actually heard of The Whole Hog was way more than I expected...One more NYC addition to the roster of potentially good Block Party participants, although not a strictly BBQ place is a place called Soul Fixins on 34th between 8th and 9th Avenues...great food, very nice folks...

Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 3:25PM
stacy says:

If you like whole hog go to hill country on tuesday nights!

Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 3:38PM
mmmmm BBQ says:

Thanks Stacy,

I have been meaning to get up to hill country for the longest, but haven't made it yet. I will try..

Update on my earlier post...apparently Soul Fixins has closed their location on 34th St but is still open at their 28th Street btw. 7+8th location.

Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 29 2009 @ 3:50PM
Smoke In Da Eye says:

Having always avoided the block party like the plague, I'll trust your judgment on the food served. That said, having not only gone to high school in Dallas like you but also spending large quantities of time in KC and Memphis, I'd say it's worth broadening your benchmark. It's taken a heck of a lot of work to bring such a fine collection of cooks together each year and has help broaden many New Yawker's definition of quality 'que.

Ohh, and I've never tasted blackberry jam, let alone slipped it into a marinade. You're welcome to come compete with us this summer and see what it takes to do well.

Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 30 2009 @ 11:07AM
Lmills says:

Big Apple BBQ Festival is a great opportunity for New Yorkers to taste BBQ from different places and see regional differences. I'm from Alabama and, like a good southern girl, I know BBQ.

Truthfully, the only way for New Yorkers to truly experience quality BBQ is to get out of Manhattan.

Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 30 2009 @ 12:53PM
tomatocake says:

The Pit might certainly suck, but there's no way in hell Soul Fixins should get a higher grade than the pulled pork Ed Mitchell produces at the event itself. He's been coming since the start, and his sandwiches have always been stellar. Tastes vary and there's no accounting for them, to boot, but I'm from NC (Raleigh, in fact) and so are many of my friends here in the city. All of us loved Ed's work in past years. But if the C+ rating keeps his lines shorter, perhaps it's not a bad thing.

Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 30 2009 @ 1:10PM
ilovenybbq says:

I've attended this event the last couple of years. I'm happy to see NY restaurants represented here at this event, however, the ones I prefer aren't there. I'm bringing a group of BBQ lovers there on Saturday and wouldn't mind if Mr. Sietsema joins us.

Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 30 2009 @ 4:14PM
I Love Cue says:

This is a very limited perspective of what good BBQ is... this reviewer needs to broaden his perspective. Dinosaur BBQ is beyond awesome! Yikes! This guy is a hack!

Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 30 2009 @ 8:56PM
Robert SietsemaAuthor Profile Page says:

Liquid-smoke-laced ketchup poured on baked meat is not barbecue, Mr. Dinosaur!

Posted On: Friday, May. 1 2009 @ 9:45AM
BBQ Pros says:

I've been to this event every year and its amazing. I have to say that the ratings here are a bit low - where exactly is the lauded A+ BBQ that none of these professionals has earned in your reviews? Unless you're one of those people who believes there's always room for improvement, ie. an idealistic view applied to a realistic world. There are definitely some really good vendors here and certainly some that would rate an A or even A+ as someone who cooks, eats, and dreams about BBQ.

More importantly, is anyone worried about a certain infectious virus circulating around these days which may cause the cancellation of my favorite event of the year?? Not only for the irrational belief that eating pork can cause this, but simply due to a reaction similar to Mexico City where all public gatherings have been cancelled to prevent further spread. For sure, I wouldn't mind smaller numbers of people (more ribs for me!) but an outright cancellation would break my heart!

Posted On: Friday, May. 1 2009 @ 11:08AM
Curious Barbecue lover says:

Just a question, why doesn't your review contain any objective remarks about what constitutes a good barbecue? You say, "Texas Barbecue is my benchmark", but what exactly does this mean? I'm not interested as much in a review of the restaurant but instead the food served at the big apple bbq which from what I've heard is about 90% ribs. Pork or beef shortribs? Dry or wet rub? BBQ sauce glazed on, served on the side or not at all? Apple wood, hickory, or mesquite smoke? Gas or charcoal?

I'm a big fan of BBQ food but like any other genre of food, there's a huge amount of diversity in types and it would have helped to see some mention of actual BBQ characteristics in the fair provided by the hard working vendors.

I'll go anyway as long as Fast Passes are still available. I've heard the atmosphere alone is worth it!

Posted On: Friday, May. 1 2009 @ 11:18AM
Robert SietsemaAuthor Profile Page says:

The event is not in an enclosed place -- you'll be much safer at the block party than almost any other event in town. No way it's going to be cancelled. And, of course, the idea that you can get it by eating pig parts is ridiculous.

Posted On: Friday, May. 1 2009 @ 11:32AM
Coldie. says:

I won't disagree that if you plopped me square in the middle of NC and allowed me to go hog-wild on any BBQ I wanted (if anybody is actually able to do this btw, i need to know you) - The Pit would not be my first choice. Or 2nd or 3rd even.
THAT SAID, there is nowhere close to NYC that has anything that can rightly be called Carolina BBQ, so seeing big Ed Mitchell at this event is the thrill of all thrills for me. And this is the only NC bbq at the event. And The Pit is DAMN DAMN GOOD. The fact your friend has other preferences in the Triangle shouldn't lead you to give it a grade of C+. That's not really fair and not even an accurate basis. And sides? Who cares about sides at these things?

Posted On: Friday, Jun. 12 2009 @ 8:44PM
Robert SietsemaAuthor Profile Page says:

Good response!

Posted On: Friday, Jun. 12 2009 @ 8:55PM
VOLS FAN '95 says:

you gave an "A" grade to an New York place?!?!

ummmm... ok, whatever.


Posted On: Friday, Jun. 12 2009 @ 10:05PM
Jackson says:

If Texas bbq is your benchmark, then you must not care for pork.

I guess turkey necks in your greens is your benchmark for that dish, right?

Posted On: Friday, Jun. 12 2009 @ 10:09PM
Robert SietsemaAuthor Profile Page says:

God, no, Jackson! Pork ribs are almost as important as beef brisket in the Texas 'cue pantheon. Indeed Lockhart barbecues prominently feature pork chops, and at Sonny Bryan's in Dallas, ham is on offer. No greens in most Texas barbecues, more like cole slaw, potato salad, beans, and white bread.

Posted On: Friday, Jun. 12 2009 @ 10:37PM
Robert SietsemaAuthor Profile Page says:

Hill Country is a pretty good replica of Kreuz, and when I reviewed it the barbecue was smoky, fatty, and reasonably authentic, whatever that means. They even us sausage from Kreuz Market. Call this almost-academic replication a parody if you want, but it works for me.

Posted On: Friday, Jun. 12 2009 @ 10:39PM
Robert SietsemaAuthor Profile Page says:

Coldie, one thing we apparently agree on is that there's a dearth of good North Carolina cue at the block party. In particular, there's never been a place from Lexington that I know of, and most would agree that's the best barbecue town from the Piedmont. As far a barbecue from the lowlands of the state, I'm partial to Allen & Sons, and I've had some pretty great barbecue in Goldsboro, too.

Posted On: Friday, Jun. 12 2009 @ 10:42PM
alexis says:

I am from eastern NC, and man are you WAY off base about Ed Mitchell's 'cue--the stuff he pumps out here in NYC is succulent and delicious. My biggest disappointment, however, is the absence of the brunswick stew folks from Virginia. If you think you can't find good bbq in NYC, try to hunt down some real brunswick stew. The Brothers BBQ version is from Mars.

Posted On: Saturday, Jun. 13 2009 @ 11:46AM

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