When I first moved to NY, everyone on campus was all about John's. Lately, no one talks about John's. It's cool to see it made your list!

You need to get to New Hyde Park, like pronto -- Umberto's.
say no more.

Robert Sietsema

Hey, I love Umberto's big square pies--I've even detoured on the way to LaGuardia in a rental car to grab some pizza there before a flight. But, alas, it's not in New York City.

Robert Sietsema

Thanks, Mikey. We love John's, and, as you can see, we definitely favor the old-time coal oven spots--that's where the pizza was first developed that New York gave to the world.

I dont get the DiFara infatuation, yes its a good pizza but I walk out of the place smelling like a pile of grease and generally it is just too greasy. But you should consider Luzzo, I also like Mezzaluna. But my fave, thoug a pain to get to is Amano!!!

anyone who would put lombardi's on a top ten list is clearly not a native new york pizza eater.

Robert Sietsema

Hey, nygirl, don't quite understand why you'd say that. Lombardi's is the city's oldest pizzeria and the place where pizza as we know it was invented. We agree it's not the best coal oven place, but have you ever tried their clam pie when it was "on"?

Robert Sietsema

Thanks for your suggestions, d, we'll check them out.

I live by La Villa and am slightly shocked to see it here. Haven't you ever had L'Asso's pizza? Shorter line than Lombardi's, and just plain better. The way the cheese tastes...Ah.

Robert Sietsema

Where is L'Asso? -- a rather unfortunate name, don't you think?

Completely unfortunate, in so many ways. Its on Kenmare and Mott. Get their Margarita DOC, and then whatever else, but that is the real beauty there.

Sietsema,
I understand the sentimental need to put Lombardis on the list, but they are far more often off than on... to put them on the list allows them to rest on their laurels, no? somebody's got to shake them a bit! they seriously need to get on the quality control...
while they may have invented pizza as we know it, Totonno's does a much better job of honoring that legacy. Over all though its a great list... I just looked over Alan Richman's list, and aside from some general problems with it, I realized he included not one place that even offers pizza by the slice! Thank you for making a good list w/o the elitism of some others.

La Villa? Maybe top 10 in Park Slope. And without Una Pizza Napoletana or Keste this list is incomplete (or just wrong).

Here's a better top 10:
http://www.gayot.com/restaurants/best-newyork-ny-top10-pizza_1ny.html

Robert Sietsema

Haha buzzboy -- you're a devotee of the carpetbagging "True Pizza of Naples"! We tried Keste (read Sarah's review), and it definitely didn't make the cut. They can't control their oven, maybe they'll be able to someday, but the crust is not up to par, and certainly doesn't deserve to be compared to the excellent pies in Naples like Da Michele. We did name-check in the runners-up the first "True Pie of Naples" place -- La Pizza Fresca, which is one of the best in the city.

Robert Sietsema

I think I agree with you, E, I've definitely had substandard pies there. I almost regret putting it on the list.

Robert Sietsema

I'm definitely going to check it out, S!

surely the square at L&B Spumoni Gardens in Bklyn deserves at least a runner-up mention

Robert Sietsema

Hi Surly -- I love that place, but as you're no doubt aware, their style is to undercook the sheets (which is what they call pies, of course), so that right underneath the crust there's a gooey layer something like cookie dough. The locals love it, but I just think--undercooked, undercooked, undercooked. That said, I hang out there all the time, just for the spumoni, and for the scene. Hope to run into you there!

Being a resident of East Harlem I was happy to see you included Patsy's. Not to be a homey but I believe it is one of the truly great pizzas in NYC. Glad you omitted Artichoke..went recently and found it to be a greasy, oily, tasteless mess.

Robert Sietsema

Hey, we think alike, Jay. Also had the same opinion of Artichoke, and hated that they had boxes of real artichokes sitting around, but used canned on their vaunted artichoke slice, which was covered with something that seemed like Campbell's Cream of Artichoke soup.

What, no Lucali?

I find the Artichoke experience very confusing. I have tried all of the options and only enjoyed the Sicilian (which I loved). In four visits, I have never heard anyone order the Sicilian, and almost all go for the lame artichoke slice, which reminded me of old school artichoke and spinach dips. Who is pushing that slice?
Does anyone have any recommendations in Lower East Side/East Village area, other than Lil' Frankies?

Keste is the best!!!

Glad to see La Pizza Fresca mentioned, a thoroughly underrated place that rarely gets mentioned in these kind of lists. Also, Queens is shut out here; was Nick's Pizza in Forest Hills in the running? That's our fav pizza joint near us.

Robert Sietsema

Eric -- I've always been a fan of Stromboli's at the corner of First Avenue and St. Marks. It's where all the East Village rockers used to hang out during the Sonic Youth era. The sauce is a little on the sweet side, but if you're really really hungry, that amps your blood sugar almost immediately...

Patsy's on University Place is also good for a sit-down pie, but it's not nearly as good as the original Patsy's up in East Harlem.

Robert Sietsema

Note that Keste has only been open a couple of months, and it's across the street from the sainted John's, for Pete's sake! Why all this weird Keste admiration? Give it a chance to even out.

I'm sorry but this list has a few real head scratchers!!! It is just so typical. I know it is opinions but come on?Do some of these names have to be here just for the sake of it??? Totonnos is the real deal,Difara is overrated and greasy,Patsy's is beyond overrated and is just a decent pie. I'm appalled to see Lombardis on here all it is is a tourist hotspot. Their crust has no body the pizza is flavorless,I truly think there are between 50 and 100 better places than Lombardis.The rest of the list can't be argued but how can you not have Keste???How can you not have Arturo's??? Let's' go people!!!Ok I'm calm now.

Robert Sietsema

The Keste shills are massing! Help!

Joe and Pat's should be on the list, not Denino's. Also, Sal and Carmine's should be mentioned at least as a runner up.

Not even a mention of Luzzo's?! That's a violation of the Geneva convention

New Park Pizza - an institution on Cross Bay Blvd (exit 17 off of the belt).

DiFara's - often burnt - there's a difference between char and burnt. there's tends towards burnt.

Next time you are in Brooklyn, try DaVinci's on 18th Avenue 65th Street.

Sorry to burst your bubble Rob, I love your column, but I don't think there are even five tacos in all of the NYC metro area to put on that list. You're better of looking in LA or Chicago......

Prove me wrong!

In the LES, nothing beats Rosario's (their eggplant slice is to die for). Francesco's on Henry St. in Carroll Gardens makes a great Brooklyn-style pizza and no crazy wait like Lucali's.

These are in the suburbs, mostly.

Can we do NYC pizzerias?

Nice to see LaVilla on the list--loved that place. I'm always a little sad when you post about pizza because it makes me so very hungry for New York!

i get all of my pizza news at www.idreamofpizza.com -- amazing nyc pizza blog. anyway, good list!!

Robert, out of curiosity, did you actually visit (or re-visit) the places on your list for its publication, or did you do it from memory? I'm very surprised to see John's on your list, as they haven't made an interesting or properly cooked pie in years. More like a blander, soggier version of Grimaldi's. Surely, they deserve a mention for sentiment, but not for their pizza...at least not in this decade. Similarly, it would be interesting to note which other places you visited and DIDN'T include. For example, is Una Pizza Napoletana excluded because you didn't like it or because you didn't visit it? (NB: this shouldn't be seen as a push for Una Pizza on my part, as I've never been. It was just an example.)

Keste in the Village, Village Voice, is fabulous and fresh. And Franny's on Flatbush is better than anything I've had in Brooklyn.

Robert Sietsema

I happen to have visited John's twice in the last two months, and found it fantastic both times, and I like it marginally better than Grimaldi's, which has embroidered on the coal oven formula by cooking at lower temps, using a thicker dough platform, and a thicker strew of ingredients. Yes, the old coal oven places are austere in the extreme, almost acetic, but then so is Keste and all the Naples wannabe pies, which are frankly not in the same league as the actual Naples places. What do you like about Keske anyway? Like I said, I don't believe they've learned to control their wood-burning oven yet. I'll revisit in a couple of months, but I was unimpressed with my first visit, and Sarah DiGregorio was underimpressed in three visits. We both found the dough soggy. Those real Naples places have been using the same starter for decades, too, and that's one of the things that makes their pita-like pies so spectacular.

Obviously, the list makers live in, or spend an inordinate amount of time in Brooklyn.

Staten Island made the list, but the Bronx was completely shut out?! I don't know why I'm suprised by this. By now, I should be use to being ignored by the rest of NYC :-(

Can somebody please specify where to find authentic Chicago style pizza? It's not merely "deep dish" but more like a multi-layered pie. I have been searching for something like it since I moved from Chicago (where I usually ate it at Giordano's).

Lazzara's on W 38th has the best margarita pizza I've ever had.

What about the Bronx, Arthur Ave.? Great pizza to be found there!! Try taking a drive out of Brooklyn and Staten Island, venture out a little.

DA CIRO haven't been there for awhile & it is a restaurant--they do have a neopolitan
pizza oven--they only serves pies--no one in this city makes it better.

Robert Sietsema

Lauren, alas there's not good pizza I know about on Arthur Avenue. You can get great bureks there, really good Sicilian seafood at Umbertos, great modern Italian at Roberto, etc. etc. but no good pizza. Go figure.

Robert Sietsema

Hey BX Lady, see my reply vis-a-vis Arthur Avenue right before. I do have pizzas I like in the Bronx, including Louie's and Ernie's on Crosby Avenue and La Pentola on White Plains Road, but, I hate to say it, the Bronx is not a pizza stronghold. I go the Bronx for Vietnamese, Pakistani, Puerto Rican, Jamaican of course, non-pizza Italian, Anglophone West African, Mexican, but not for pizza.

Robert,

Great pizza lives in the Bronx. Check out Trattoria Zero Otto Nove on Arthur Ave, run by Roberto of Roberto's fame.

http://www.roberto089.com/index_089.html

Great pies. Great atmosphere. No pretention.

Try it. You'll be back.

Robert Sietsema

Definitely going to check it out -- thanks for the tip -- but the place is really new, right? I was going more for settled down and predictable pizza parlors, which is why Keishe really is not under consideration for the list, but could be next year. Love Roberto, of course.

Wow, I can't believe the ORIGINAL Patsy's isn't above John's on the list. Ok, so the ambiance of the East Harlem joint may not be as swank as that of John's in the Village but IMHO Patsy's Pizza takes the cake...er, uh, Pie any day!!! *Bonus* Patsy's has a soda vending machine inside their shop for beverage purchase - a total iconic eatery that is a must visit for the true Pizza connoisseur.

Robert Sietsema

I agree, and that's why they're both in the top ten.

Robert,

Yes, it's new. Maybe it'll be in your top ten in the next few years. I've been there many times, as it's my go to place for pizza when I'm entertaining visitors, and it's always been suberb. the Vincenzo pizza with porcini mushrooms is fantastic. i am waiting for another excuse to head over there for a pie.

La Villa is the big shocker here. Although this list honors 'old school' pizza places, I'm surprised that Franny's or Co. is not on the list and shocked that Lucali's and Una Pizza Neapolitana.

Robert Sietsema

Are you sure "shocked" is the word you want to use, instead of "mildly annoyed"? Lucali's is good but uneven, it might have easily made the runner-up list; Una Pizza Napolitana is not nearly as good as La Pizza Fresca, though it sets out to do just about the same thing.

I definitely second Zero Otto Nove in the Bronx. Agree that it might not be ready for top 10 just now, but the pies I had there recently were flawless.

I'm excited for your taco list - NYC may not have tacos to brag about like some cities, but enough for a respectable list, I think.

Angelo's just north of Times Square...truly fresh and delicious with extra crispy thin crust.

Hi Bob,

I can really appreciate your list as it mentions some great places. Unfortunately, most of these are pie places and don't truly represent what New Yorkers eat on a daily basis. Moreover, with the recession in full swing we really need to focus more on great NY slice places. You don't have to spend 12-15 dollars to get great Pizza in NY if you know where to go. That said, I really think NY Pizza Suprema by MSG should have been mentioned. They put out some fantastic regular slices for $2.50. Their upside down pizza (L & B style) isn't doughy and undercooked like L&B and is absolutely delicious -- a favorite of Ed Levine. You really need to check them out. The son of the original owner, a super friendly guy, took over a couple of years ago, and recently gave the place a makeover. You really should check them out. On a different note, I was really glad to see you gave Krispy a mention in the runner up section. They make delicious traditional NY style Pizza by the slice.

Frank

Robert Sietsema

From your lips to Buddha's ears! We'll do a ten best slices piece in a few weeks in this column. Thanks so much for the idea!

Well, You need to try the Pizzas at SAVOIA (277 Smith St Brooklyn) and then........you'll never go to anywhere else!!!!!!!!!

Robert Sietsema

Thanks, Thom, will do! (You're not the guy in Radiohead, are you?)

Hey Robert i was brought up in brooklyn and moved to long island when i was 20 years old, i still goto new york and brooklyn to some of my favorite pizza places, but i have to tell u there are three spots on long island, thats worth the trip too, and this is from someone thats been eating pizza from homemade to the best for 59 years, im a hard marker coming from a sicilian family that knows there way around the oven. Try the sicilian pie at umbertos of new hyde park i rate that up there, also pizza town on 109 in west babylon,and third ciros in hauppauge all from long island i rate those three up there.

Motorino absolutely not. I live in the neighborhood and have been consistently disappointed. Swap it out for Lucali's for sure!

Robert Sietsema

Yo Lorenzo --

I'm totally down with Umberto's already, but wil try the second two. Thanks so much for suggesting it -- always love an excuse to head out to Long Island!

Who doesn't love pie...

Electronic Cigarette

Hey Robert, this top ten list is fantastic. You make me miss New York style pizzas, they are just not the same here in California. Denino's would be my pick for #1, although I haven't had a chance to try half of your picks on this list. You can post this to our site http://www.toptentopten.com/ and link back to your site. We are trying to create a directory for top ten lists where people can find your site. The coolest feature is you can let other people vote on the rankings of your list.

Robert Sietsema

Thanks, Vince, love Denino's, especially the conch (scungilli) salad and the clam pie, which is a real New Yorky thing.

You guys have to be kidding me with this list.

No Lucali? Seriously? Lil Frankies, Motorino and Roberta's shouldn't even be in consideration.

Are you basing this on ad revenue or what?

Maffei's on 6th beats those shmoes with it's grandma slice alone. I'd even put Two Boots above Little Frankies. While I'm name checking let me also say R.I.P. S. Cono's of Graham Ave. Best eggplant slice ever.

Robert Sietsema

Do you see ads from those places in the Voice? We have been strong advocates of both Maffei's and Cono's (the pizza place, not the seafood restaurant) for ages, if you would get off your ass, Anonymous, and Google a bit, rather than sitting in your own filth and making baseless accusations.

sorry, nothing compares to pizza from my hometown, chicago--all nyc pizza is weak milk in comparison

Robert Sietsema

I love Chicago-style pizza, Bruce, but last time i was there a couple of years ago, there just wasn't that much of it. Where do you go?

Always great to see a thread debating the best pizza of NYC. Good article, Sietsema! NYers get heated when discussing the best pizza. For this question, there are no answers, only accusations.

Bleecker Street Pizza on the corner of West Fourth and Bleecker is my vote, awesome slices and one of the best Sicilian pies around

Robert Sietsema

Thanks, Jeff. You are a diplomat!

We're with you on Totonno's, but no Spumoni Gardens? Oh well, "top 10" in NYC just ain't enough.

Well according to www.worstpizza.com the best pizza is also found at Johnny's in Mount Vernon, and L&B Spumoni Gardens in Brooklyn

I'm pleased to see Roberta's on the list. I tried them a few months after they opened and felt that they had promise but the crust was a bit too crispy and lacked adequate character. Six months later I revisited and they had it nailed. Very very good.

I don't know about you, but I'm not hopping on the train for 45 minutes just to get pizza from a restaurant with an hour-long line for a table, I don't care how good it is. Seriously, all of these lists are the same fluff, mostly the same expected expensive, touristy places.

Real people sometimes get the best pizza in their own neighborhood, real people sometimes get pizza by the slice, and god forbid--real people sometimes get pizza made in a gas oven.

I'd love to see a top ten *regular-person's* pizzeria list. I'm sick of the tourist-centric/"don't have a day job" pizzeria lists that are full of places I'd likely never go to. Isn't there a recession going on, anyway?

Sal and Carmine's in Morningside Heights. I'm from Ohio and that was a good one I didn't see on the list. Maybe the guys retired?

thanks for the list. I haven't hit a few of these spots. I'll check them out over the next few weeks.

John's on Bleecker is good. But directly across the street is Keste, a new pizza place making actual Naples-style pizza, and it'll blow you away. Best I've had outside of Italy.

Mariella Pizza on 3rd Avenue (off 16th) is the best! - Noga Rosenthal

Roberta's must have gotten much, much better in the past six months; tried it twice and it was utterly metiocre and always burnt. Maybe the hipsters they hired as pizziolas finally learned their trade.

Don't sleep on BELLA NAPOLI -- they have the best Grandma pies and all there slices are out of this world!!!

La Casa Bella
2579 Cropsey Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11214-6605
(718) 449-0200‎

Vodka pizza! nuff said!

New Park pizza in howard beach is pretty good for just a regular pie.

La Villa....Really? Such generic wood oven crap.

How is spumoni gardens aka L&B's not on the list?!!?! They have the best, most unique square slices ever. That place alone gives deep Brooklyn a reason to exist.

I have to agree that New Park Pizza should have been on the list and so should Lenny's in Howard Beach.

In Brooklyn there is a little place about a block from the "N" train on Kings Highway believe its called Nicks that makes the best pizza I ever tried. L & B Spumoni Gardens should have made the list also.

No, NYC does not have the best pizza in the world. Please stop making such ignorant and demonstrably false comments. I can take you to places in Napoli & environs that would put that nonsense to rest. And Keste, which I finally got around to last week, is superb. (By the way, Time Out New York's pizza round-up, which had Keste at #1, was far more credible than yours.) The Regina Margherita, made with imported cilegini tomatoes and mozzarella di bufala, is not to be missed. Roberto is a great pizzaiolo, period. He can't regulate his oven? You really don't now what you're talking about. The crust was perfection -- chewy, tasty, totally Neapolitan in style, not thin and burnt as too often is the case in NYC. If the presence of Chinese in a Chinese restaurant can be taken as a sign of quality, then the fact that Keste's clientele is heavily Italian (not Italian American) should tell you something. The young Italian-speaking man & woman at the table next to ours were raving over their pizza, expressing surprise that something so good and yes, authentic, could be found in NYC. If you prefer NYC-style pizza, fine, just say that. But basta with this bullshit about New York having better pizza than Italy.

Robert Sietsema

Is this a comment. GiorgioNYC, or a press release--really, it's hard to tell the difference.

Try La Lanterna's lamb sausage pizza. AMAZING!

La Villa? that place is garbage.

Robert Sietsema

Au contraire! Have you tried their stuffed Roman pizza, filled with potatoes and sausage between two pizza crusts. It's an authentic specialty of Abruzzo, just over the Apennines from the capital. Don't be put off by the shopping-mall appearance of the premises. And the back garden is great. Good cheap wines from Central Italy, too. What's your problem with the place, Avisualperson?

I got a fantastic pie from Patsy's original location last summer when visiting. It was less than 10 minutes from ordering to the table and cost only $13 for a huge pie. Lombardi's on the other hand, was overrated. Sally's in New Haven is my favorite, but the service is THE WORST!

Fascinating debate. Here's my view of the list:

Totonno's - thought it was boring and somewhat insubstantial
Di Fara's - can be very good, can be overly greasy. A certain kind of over-the-topness
John's - delicious and satisfying
Grimaldi's - fantastic and consistently pizza that makes me very happy
Patsy's East Harlem - delicious -- but only if you order the whole pie, not the slices
Lombardi's - tasty and solid
Motorino - thought it was a nice try but nothing special.

My list would be:
Franny's - transcendent crust and perfect balance
Grimaldi's
Sicilian at Lazzara's - wonderful sauce
Sicilian at Artichoke - love that charred crust!
Zero Otto Nove in the Bronx - very high-quality neopolitan
Keste - ditto
Pizza Moto at the Brooklyn Flea - ditto once more. fresh from their oven, hot on your hands, it's amazing.
L&B Spumoni - simple and rustic, but addictive

L'assssssoooooo. On kenmare and mott. L'asso l'asso l'asso. They ahve the Best DOC and they also have a ton of awesome pizzas. slices change every day and the l'asso supreme is the best one on the weekends with italian sauage, ricotta salata and onions. Why isnt anyone talking about this place?

-carrot

For sure, Del Mar has to make it on the next list. They have a huge following, even on Facebook. The crust is crispy, but not too thin and the dough is perfectly cooked. Super tasty and great with spinach or pepperoni.
Check out the ode to the pepperoni slice.
http://www.sheepsheadbites.com/blog1.php/restaurants/time-for-a-delmar-pepperoni-slice

Also, I am not sure if Totonno's is open, yet. Rumors weere that they were set to open in June, again, after a fire in March of this year.
The phone number has been disconnected at the customer's request.

You can see the writeup, here:
http://www.sheepsheadbites.com/blog1.php/crime/fire-destroys-totonno-s

Robert Sietsema

Where's Del Mar, Ray? I don't think I've ever tried it.

Robert, I will give you the personal tour of Sheepshead Bay...once you taste DelMar's you will not mention any of the other Southern Brooklyn contenders on your list. The only problem is that they do not put any fresh basil. Big bad.

But, write me and I will take you there!
If you insist on going by yourself, here is the address:
1668 Sheepshead Bay Rd
Take the B or Q train to the Sheepshead Bay Rd station.

Robert Sietsema

Thanks, Ray. I'm in Sheepshead Bay quite often, most recently to eat a Liman's. I'll check it out.

Have you tried Bella Via in Long Island City? Thin crust brick oven. It is great!!

Robert Sietsema

I haven't, and I'll put it on my list. I'm a fan of Umberto's, which is more like Staten Island pies.

How can you not mention Joe's on Carmine street. I think it blows away Johns.

How can you not mention Joe's on Carmine street. I think it blows away Johns on Bleeker. They put crack in the sauce.

for the best sicilian slice outside of NYC, take a trip to Sal's in Mamaroneck...it is legendary.

All you guys crack me up. So you think some of these places shouldn't be on the list. I will bet each and every one of them make better pizza on their worst day than ANY so called pizza joint here in Missouri.

We actually have restaurants that use 14" craker rounds as "dough"(St.Louis Style).
The worst of it is, Dominoes and Pizza Hut are the best we can get here.

All I can do is imagine what a real pizza tastes like.

This is so typical New York. New York has the best pizzas in the world only if you've never left the city. It's not even the best pizza within 100 miles. Go down to New Haven.

Robert Sietsema

Do you like Sally's or Pepe's? They're both quite good, but, frankly, there just aren't that many good pizza parlors in New Haven.

I have been in the food industry for 30 years.
I had been ask to design a pizza restaurant for a client about 3 weeks ago. When he gave me his menu, I thought he was nuts. I am am very fortune t consultant, I pick and choose what I work on. I almost bailed on him when he brought me to a place in NJ that I will not mention (awful) & soupy. This was one of the first stores of this style pie with this unusual dough w/the ?? very best ingredients.

Well today I jumped in with both feet. Even discounting his fee and following through with extra's like I was doing a 4 star rest. Like Lever House or Savona, for he brought me to Keste. Great no conforming pizza and dough.

A must try.

Glenn G. Reiff
G. Reiff FSEdesign
Food Service Consultant
FSEdesign@optonline.net

I forgot to say look for in the fall 2009 a NJ version of this unusual style pizza. Location
not available I can say Essex or Bergen County.

Hey Robert,
Kudos on all your articles by the way!! I'm with you about La Villa!! I live by the margherita with thin slices of Proscuitto on top and the nonna pie (or grandma)in deep dish..simple and great! Did you ever try the broc rabe calzone with sausage??? Great stuff but dont order any thing else when you,,, do its big!!!

Robert Sietsema

Thanks, Stefan. Never tried their broccoli rabe and sausage calzone, sounds great!

hey rob
great minds think alike... i live and eat at la villa. everything is on the money, wood burning pizza, calzones, deep dish pies, along with the great salads and pastra dishes... never been disappointed w/ anything, also there undivided service should be mentioned......

RIZZO'S FINE PIZZA

On Steinway in Queens!!! 50 years in biz... superb pie, squares are OF THE HOOK!!! Try it and tell me if Im wrong!!!

re: rizzo's from anonymous.

tried it, you're wrong. I have a t-shirt from there though and I like the place. but it's no top 10. Not even top 5 in Queens.

and maybe you're confusing this with Anselmo's? I think they are OF THE HOOK. rizzos is in astoria.

Jersey Boys in Dillon Colorado!
Sure it's out west, but it's great. The guys cook like they're not sure if Ma might drop in and set 'm straight.
And for all the crust aficionados, remember NYC guys always say it's the water, from mountain reservoirs by the way.
Well, that's what they've got.

(maybe it just tastes so good because it's so far away!)

All serious pizza joints and to be respected. But you are missing a place that is completely off the radar and that place is NY PIZZA SUPREMA, 413 8th Ave NYC! (right off the corner of 31 ST. and 8th Ave From their regular slice, fresh mozz to the upside down sicilian, the BEST! Go give it a shot and you will be revising that list quickly!

Robert Sietsema

Haven't eaten there in years, Ed, but used to be down with their ices, too. I'll give it another go, thanks!

There are clearly too many debatable pizza places in town and most of them reside in Brooklyn then Manhattan then Staten Island.
How about a Top 5 List for the other boroughs which never seem to make the cut.
Top 5 Bronx Pizza
Top 5 Queens Pizza
Top 2 Staten Island Pizza (lol)
Top 10 Brooklyn Pizza
Top 10 Manhattan Pizza

Top 10 suburb/off the beaten path pizza (Westchester & Long Island.. New Haven?)

I think there will be a lot more grateful pizza-eaters out there. This is New York and I'm sure not everyone will be happy but at least people who arent trying to trek across 3 or 4 boroughs will be able to find top quality eats within local proximity.
Thanks for listening, you sure eats-a-lotta pizza and know your stuff Robert! Kudos!

Robert Sietsema

Thanks, great idea, Ashy!

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