Five Questions To Ask At Ben Westhoff's Dirty South Reading

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Tonight, Voice contributor and hip-hop sommelier Ben Westhoff will read from Dirty South, his look at the populist rise of rap music from the southern states, at Williamsburg's Book Thug Nation. The book focuses on the bigger names to have emerged from the south, with chapters based around Big Boi and Andre 3000's creative tensions, Lil Wayne's sensational ascent to stardom, the Geto Boys' early days, and Soulja Boy's ability to use a laptop and two cellphones while eating McDonalds (page 237, rap scholars). Here are five prompts for the post-reading Q&A segment, should you want to start a dialogue with Westhoff.

Does the idea that southern rap was always shunned by East Coast elitists and overlooked by the record industry really hold weight?

"New Yorkers have been voicing their strong displeasure with southern hip-hop since the 2 Live Crew." So contends Dirty South, invoking the common opinion that southern hip-hop artists have always been discriminated against by New York City's artists, fans, and key record industry figures. But there are plenty of examples of the New York rap scene being open to southern sounds. Houston's The Geto Boys were signed by New York rap maestro Rick Rubin to his Def American label, and Scarface's crew didn't hesitate to stick up for Public Enemy during the furor surrounding Professor Griff's alleged anti-semitic comments—listening to "No Sell Out" suggests solidarity among hip-hop artists against the wider world, not a specific region. Likewise, U.G.K. icon Bun B has told how KRS-One advised his group that they'd "fucked up" when they became label mates and signed to Jive. KRS's comments weren't conveyed in a gloating manner, but in the name of camaraderie.

During the tail end of hip-hop's golden era, Atlanta's forgotten pioneers Arrested Development seemed pretty content with their industry lot, scoring commercial hits ("Tennessee," "Mr. Wendal"), grabbing Grammy nominations, and even becoming critical darlings (3 Years, 5 Months & 2 Days In The Life Of... was Pazz & Jop's number one album of 1992). And as the '90s moved on, you could hear De La Soul's Maseo spin radio sets where he'd happily flip from Pete Rock proteges INI's "Fakin' Jax" to Goodie Mobb's "Cell Therapy."

Sure, fans have always been fond of picking sides and discriminating with gleeful abandon—and it's an aspect of hip-hop fandom made more pronounced with the rise of the Internet—but casting the south as being wholesale locked out of hip-hop for a couple of decades might be more folklore than fact. Besides, are there rappers from any region who don't love to blame all their woes on the sour ol' record industry?

Which event had a bigger influence on inspiring Outkast to mainstream success—being publicly dissed at the 1995 Source Awards or Andre 3000's relationship with Erykah Badu?

Outkast claimed a bittersweet spot in hip-hop's story when they appeared at the 1995 Source Awards. The media-provoked East Coast vs. West Coast feud was at an incendiary high, with Suge Knight aiming barbs at Puffy from the podium and Snoop Dogg baiting the New York City crowd. When Atlanta's Andre 3000 and Big Boi attempted to address the crowd, they were met with wholesale boos—which caused 'Dre to lament, "I'm tired of folks, closed-minded folks... But the south got something to say, that's all I got to say."

As reported in Dirty South, the crowd's curmudgeonly reaction that night first upset and then inspired the duo, who traded up the quasi-gangsta overtones of their debut album Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik—the one with Andre bragging about how his "heat is in the trunk along with that quad knock" and threatening to point his "3-5-7 to your forehead"—for the more experimental and musically adventurous ATLiens and Aquemini sets. Greater critical acclaim followed, including something of an East Coast elitist co-sign when the Wu-Tang Clan's Raekwon appeared on the latter project's "Skew It On The Bar-B."

While that night at the Source Awards may have spurred Outkast on to greater rap feats, Andre's relationship with Erykah Badu may have helped to develop the group's increasingly exploratory styles and radio-friendly hooks. Dirty South tactfully puts it this way: "No one begrudged Andre his relationship with her, but his left-turn rhymes and style overhaul—in a genre still obsessed with white Ts and sagging jeans—provoked a backlash." Outkast's debut album may have contained the sprawling, psychedelic "Funky Ride," but without Ms. Badu's meddling would they have ever come up with a ditty like "Hey Ya!"?

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Travelgame1
Travelgame1

Thank you for writing this article. You are the first person I've EVER seen discuss this topic. I am a hardcore southern hip hop fan and I remember when 'kast got dissed. And I remember the NYC/EAST COAST elitist and the hate that they spilled everyday against the souths rise to hip hop. It should be discussed and not covered over.Thank you again.

Jasmine Morando
Jasmine Morando

Andre 3000 is too broke to buy a house in Dallas where his son lives.  That's why Andre has to do these whack verses for money.  That's the only income he has.  He is not getting acting roles because he only got them because he was hot at the time not because he was a good actor.  His business is failing because he has a manager named Eufaula Garrett who used to work at 2 ghetto companies before Timberland and Magic Johnson theaters so she definitely doesn't know how to run a business.  Andre is also a liar.  He lies to all women saying he is single meanwhile stringing Tiffany Limos along.  All Andre has now is bad karma and alot of self hatred. 

Shoryuken
Shoryuken

i think the southern rap stuff is more like watching a type of pop music come up than hiphop - it's catchy, simple, sugary, and meant to be a lot of fun, and i'm not sure the rappers really care how well they can or cannot rhyme. soulja boy and lil wayne are not rap geniuses but they do make fun songs that people want to listen to , so i'm not surprised new york rappers are mad at them!!

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