Fan Landers: Our Dick of a Producer Stole Our Demo!

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Hi Fan Landers!
My band just got done recording. We struck a really good deal with a dude who's kind of a freelance engineer, and we appreciated it. But we think he took too much control over our sound. He's a self-professed arena rock aficianado, we're a really grungy band with radical politics. On top of saying shitty things about our lyrics during recording, he didn't listen to our demos at all to know what we sounded like beforehand. Nor did he listen to any examples of music we sent him, so that he'd get an idea of what we wanted to sound like. Now we sound too clean on our recordings. We even went to the studio while he was mixing, but he was moody and rushed through everything. I asked him for the mixes so we could get them mastered by a friend who knows our sound, but he only sent the high-bit mixed tracks. What's the etiquette here? I feel that if we paid him hundreds of dollars, we should get the mixes. How do you think we should go about this?
Thanks,
Ungrateful Little Punk

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Dear ULP.
Girl, I feel for you. That dude has fully hijacked your record. Was this one of those situations where someone -- a supposed professional -- cut you a deal, and so you felt like you couldn't really step in and assert yourselves because it was like he was acting like it was a huge favor and he has been around forever and so he must know what he is doing even when it became apparent that maybe he didn't? THE VERY STORY OF THE MUSIC BIZ RIGHT THERE. Anyhow. I am sorry this is happening, but first, lets us triage the sitch. You are going to hijack this thing right back. I wouldn't bother trying to reason with the guy. He sounds like a prick.

You have a proprietary interest with your songs. Seeing as you have paid him for his work, you absolutely have a right to those mixes, raw tracks, what have you. First, if he did this at a studio, call the studio manager and tell them you want a copy of your recordings. All studios keep digital backups. You can all just show up during normal business hours with a hard drive and say you are there to retrieve your copy if they give you even scant runaround. If you did not do it at a studio and it's just on this dude's laptop or something, I think you are going to have to ambush him with your hard drive in tow. Go as a band. Roll at least four deep for the intimidation factor. I am thinking full-on wait-in-the-van-outside-the-studio stake out. It sends a message that you are not fucking around. If you can find a way to show up when, say, another band is arriving to load in to record with him he is really going to want to look all solicitous and smooth sailing. Because you already paid in full, you have little in the way of leverage -- so you have to muck about in the area that matters to him, which is his ability to get paid by other people. Once you have your tracks in hand, tell everyone in your scene exactly what happened and name him by name. Gossip is the punk scene answer to Yelp; give him no stars.

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7 comments
tadkubler
tadkubler

@jesshopp ULP - The bitterness of poor quality long outlasts the sweetness of low cost.

huevosranchers
huevosranchers

@jesshopp I'd add maybe a small claims case for what they paid. Might be tough to collect, but wouldn't hurt looking into it.

YumaWray
YumaWray

@jesshopp to ULP: don't ever let ANYONE tell you that they know your sound better than you do. That sh*t is fightin' words!!!

trisloth
trisloth

@jesshopp fantastic advice

jesshopp
jesshopp

@huevosranchers The only reason I didn't advise pursuing a case is that for cost of lawyer/court fee, they cld just make a new album.

huevosranchers
huevosranchers

@jesshopp Collecting on a judgment is actually the real tough part, especially if the dick knows what he's doing.

huevosranchers
huevosranchers

@jesshopp Small claims is usually pretty pro se (self-represented) friendly. $15 to file in NY, for example, but does depend state-to-state.

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