High on Fire's Matt Pike Talks Sobriety, Pajamas, and Jesus Christ's Time-Traveling Twin Brother
Switching gears to the new album: How the fuck did Jesus get a twin brother who was also a time traveler?
That's clever, right? I don't know. I just got on some weird tangent and went with it. I thought it was pretty fucking metal. I've studied a lot about religion. Jesus, to the Gnostics, was just an initiation. Jesus, to the Catholics, was just a means of Rome turning the Gnostics's religion into a way of controlling the masses. The whole history of Jesus is very controversial, and it's always been a weird thing in my life that I've questioned and struggled with. I love thinking about things that are perplexing, and this is something I've always wrestled with. So I turned it into my own sci-fi fucking, thriller fucking, story.
I'm confused. So is it about Jesus's twin brother going into the future to come back and tell Jesus what happens in his name after he dies?
His twin brother dies at birth so he can live, and he goes back to try to warn his brother, Jesus, about what's to come in his name.
How does all this play out?
I don't know. That's the second part of the trilogy. [Laughs hysterically.] I have absolutely no idea. I just kinda went with it.
Do you consider yourself a Christian?
I'm more of a Gnostic. I border on New Age, actually. I don't have the answers. I believe in aliens and all sorts of stuff. I believe in one consciousness, and us having one consciousness, but looking out of different binoculars. It's too hard, and vast, to explain. Humans can't answer all the questions. It's the divine torture of man. The divine comedy, I suppose.
When you're not on the road, do you read and study a lot?
It depends. I go through phases. Sometimes I read a lot, sometimes not at all. Sometimes I play guitar a lot, sometimes not at all. It all depends on what's going on in my life.
Now that you're not hitting the bars after the shows, are you reading more books on this tour?
I haven't been reading as much as I've been playing Angry Birds. And I've just been trying to focus on my own person, and meditating, and breathing. Fuck getting upset. You get a lot of anxiety when you quit partying. It's just a matter of staying calm, and getting my job done, and keeping my band happy. And keeping the fans happy, and paying the bills.
You meditate quite a bit?
Yeah, I have been. I meditate in a few different ways. There's walking meditation, sitting meditation. I definitely try to get my time in where I have silence during the day with no one around. I'm just trying to find peace anyway I can as the crazy world goes on around us.
A few days ago, there was some unconfirmed talk about Sleep coming together, not just to do shows, but for something bigger, perhaps a new album. What's this all about?
Oh, really? Interesting. That's a mystery. I don't know whose information that is, because we didn't announce anything like that. We'll be playing shows here and there. I am jamming with the dudes, but I choose not to elaborate on it.
High on Fire, Goatwhore, Primate and Lo-Pan play The Bowery Ballroom Friday (8 p.m., $20), and Music Hall of Williamsburg Saturday (8 p.m., $20).