Darbie Nowatka of Bishop Allen Talks New LP and Leaving Brooklyn

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Bishop Allen's latest LP Lights Out showcases their penchant for memorable hooks and earnest lyricism. After a little over a decade of crafting indie anthems featuring soundscapes reminiscent of power-pop ballads and twee glazed finesse, Bishop Allen continues to expand their aesthetic in a way that defies predictable clichés. After a little over a decade, Bishop Allen is still making listeners swoon. Listen to Lights Out and it's obvious why. 

In advance of their record release show at Glasslands tonight, we spoke with band member Darbie Nowatka about Bishop Allen's move from Brooklyn to Kingston, the final track on Lights Out, and future collaborations with her husband and fellow bandmate Justin Rice.

See also: Yes In My Backyard: Bishop Allen's Justin Rice on His Band's New Video for "True or False"

The cadence and lyricism of Lights Out expands on a sound fans are familiar with. Emotively, what would you say differentiates the tone of this album in comparison to earlier releases?
I think each Bishop Allen album captures a time and a place. For me, Charm School feels very much like being twentysomething and living in New York City, and Lights Out feels more like being thirtysomething and leaving the city behind. There's an ambivalence to it: it looks back, but not with nostalgia. In some ways it's a little more road-worn, a little wearier, but also a little wiser and more grown-up. It's got some sadder moments than other records, but it's also weirdly more danceable.

Which songs, from Lights Out and earlier releases, are you looking forward to playing at your release show?
It's always exciting to play new songs, so I'm looking forward to playing anything and everything from Lights Out. And I'm always trying to convince Justin to put something from Charm School on the set list, and it looks like "Busted Heart" made the cut this time, so I'm excited for that, too. Our live set is way more raucous than our records. Everything's a bit faster and a bit more chaotic, and it's always super lively and fun. Can't wait.

Since making the move from Brooklyn to Kingston, how have your surroundings impacted your onstage presence and sense of place?
We played our first show in five years last night. It was here in Kingston at a packed city-wide block party on Wall street. First shows are always strange: everything sounds and feels so different on stage than it did in a room, and it takes a bit of touring before things are under control. Outdoor shows are even harder because you can't hear much of anything on stage. Despite all of that, the show was a blast. The crowd was incredibly supportive, and all of our friends from town were there. And that support is what's amazing about Kingston. Everyone here has a pioneering spirit, and everyone sticks together. When we left Brooklyn, we were afraid of feeling isolated, but after a few months here, we realized we didn't miss it at all.

Location Info


The Glasslands Gallery

289 Kent Ave., Brooklyn, NY

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