As States Crack Down on Meth-Like "Bath Salts," What Are Your Remaining Legal Highs?

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Perhaps you've seen the tiny packets of intriguing substances with mysterious, floaty names like "Cloud 9," "Ivory Snow," and "Blue Silk," in your local convenience store or bodega or go-to gas station. Perhaps you've been curious; perhaps you've even purchased them and experienced what they have to offer. But your time with said products are limited: "Law enforcement has caught on," announces NPR. And, so, Florida joins Louisiana in banning the sale of the so-called "bath salts" that lend an apparent meth-like high, making people do things like rip radars out of cop cars with their teeth, or attack their moms with machetes after mistaking them for monsters.

These "bath salts" are usually snorted or smoked, which is not something one generally does with bath salts at all, and seems unpleasant, or at the very least, soapy. Upon doing so, a person becomes "extremely anxious and combative, they think there's stuff trying to get them, they're paranoid [and] they're having hallucinations." The chemical in the snorting-salts is MDPV, which can cause all sorts of crazy drug-like effects, as well as the possibility of kidney failure, seizure, muscle damage, and -- er -- loss of bowel control.

Currently there are brands of the bath salts marketed in all 50 states and, of course, online, under a variety of creative names. Given the Florida and Louisiana crackdowns, expect a bill in Congress soon to give your favorite bath salts the old Four Loko treatment. In fact, our own Senator Charles Schumer is behind a plan for a nationwide ban.

But why would you want to snort bath salts from the gas station when you have K2 and Salvia, at least in New York City, at least for now? Our own Myles Tanzer ventured to neighboring St. Marks Place, where stores continue to sell the two products. Here's what he found:

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Salvia Divinorum (also known as that stuff Miley inhaled) is a hallucinogenic herb mostly imported from South America and Mexico. Although it's in the mint family of plants, it's generally regarded as having a bad taste when smoked. It is usually, and best, smoked through a bong, and when done right the user experiences about 15 minutes of hallucinations, laughter, and a feeling of getting "pulled." Scientists have yet to find any long term or short term major negative effects of Salvia but it is starting to get banned state by state. So far about 10 states have banned Salvia, including Florida, Ohio, and Virginia. A gram of 20x Salvia extract is goes for about $40 and can be found at pretty much all smoke shops nowadays.

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K2, or "spice," as it is frequently called, is a synthetic form of weed sold practically everywhere. The effects when smoked are almost identical to those of smoking weed. The ingredients in K2 are kind of mysterious: The suppliers often say it's made up of a "blend of natural herbs," and scientists cannot decide what it actually is. For that reason, DEA agents in November decided to put an emergency 1-year ban on K2. K2 runs for about the same price as Salvia and is usually next to it in the display cases.

There's no telling how long the products will remain legal or available in stores (since the products are synthetic, makers indicate that new chemical compounds will be created to replace what is banned). For their part, New York users and shopkeepers think the drugs should stay around, at least so long as they're not hurting anyone.

As one shopkeeper put it, "We've fought wars over personal freedom. This is insane. Everything should be left up for people to make up their own decisions about things. Prohibition didn't work in the '40s, so what are they doing? First it's going to be Salvia and then what's next? Voting?"

Hey, has anyone tried snorting those ballots yet?

Florida Bans Cocaine-Like 'Bath Salts' Sold In Stores [NPR]

With reporting by Myles Tanzer

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kenth
kenth

If people want to take a drug, it is their right. The government needs to recognize that. They won't, of course, because relinquishing control of us is scary for them. They won't have their cattle to make them so much money and power.

Kava Anxiety
Kava Anxiety

Oh no, that is very alarming. The state should really do something to stop such things.

Kava Kava
Kava Kava

I don't mind something like this. As long as I find it okay and tastes good then there's no problem.

tamram
tamram

Seriously people?  Maybe when or if you ever have children you will wonder why this kind of shit is on the market.  Who wants to see their child "f" up their life over some stupid chemical that my leave them unable to function a normal life?  I saw an old classmate  years ago who was a smart beautiful girl  when she was younger and now she looks like she's 80 years old due to meth and who knows what else.  Rotten teeth, skinny as a rail and so wrinkled I didn't know it was her.  She was only 40 something at the time.  Everyone thought her 8 year old son was her grandson.  So very sad to waste such a beautiful life.

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william
william

People are crazy they say the new legal bath salt dr feelgoods is weak that stuff is extremely strong. I recived a sample of this product from extremeglassshop and it is very powerful, if people say this stuff is weak they must be sum hardcore people and need to be committed

Raebelle2009
Raebelle2009

ga still hasnt made bath salts illegal, but yet three people were arrested for selling them at a store where they worked at, metro told them it was illegal on may 13th, but come to find out sheriff randy robertson said they are hoping to ban it ( bath salts) in six months, so why in the world was three people charged selling this particular item if it was never illegal, these three individuals spent two months of their lives in jail for something that was never illegal that ga never signed a bill sating bath salts were illegal. dont you think maybe just maybe these three people should  have the charges dropped against them befrore the state gets sued

Guest
Guest

Saw the new Dr. Feelgood's, advertised as extremely strong, and read a few extremely bogus reviews agreeing so I ordered. So weak. If it is legal anyways tell me what it is. When the real bath salts are banned August 8, 2011, in Pennsylvania, and this is rated most powerful legal blend, I will be holding out for something better. It's okay I ordered Eight Ballz, got same day. Lastly, you people did the MDPV for days when it is stronger thank coke, went to the hospital, died, and ruined it for all the not plain dumb people.True story of someone's first time: this is somewhat like meth, stronger than coke, you only need a little bit. Simpleton is fiending it like coke. After awhile he says can you O.D. off this stuff. I thougt this question was the first thing said

william
william

idk what youve been doing but that dr feelgoods is by far the best product ever produced

Kenziebug04
Kenziebug04

who you tellin if my BF dont have it hes just not sain...he swears by it!! im not a smoker but tried it a couple times felt like a damn zombie going through stages of my high weird i dont like it!!LOL

george
george

its funny how the government tries to run everyones lives only problem is the new stuff keeps getting stronger and stronger that new dr feelgood meditation powder aka bath salt is extremely strong

Reader137
Reader137

"...kidney failure, seizure, muscle damage, and -- er -- loss of bowel control." That's an example of bathos.

Sikrik665
Sikrik665

Im gonna tip the world over I've taken mdpv and mephedrone and made the devil in glass you people watch the fuck out!

Shabu
Shabu

Is it me, or are all the legal high horror stories the same 3 descriptions over and over? It's like a MadLib version of Reefer Madness. SWIM (Somebody Who Isn't Me) didn't like the spice,, though it didn't hurt SWIM. SWIM likes the G14 bath salts more than anticipated, as SWIM made a habit of avoiding Meth, caine, and most of the highs that wind SWIM up, with exceptions made for speedy LSD. But it was actually an effective mood stabilizer when SWIM was having coping issues during some exceptionally bad days. Anyone have feedback on shrooms being marketed as rabbit repellent? Won't try it unless I see some positive feedback somewhere.

tarmil054
tarmil054

Did you ever figure anything out about the rabbit repellent?

Rusty Shackleford
Rusty Shackleford

Although ingredients in smoking blends aren't fully disclosed (marketing them as incense or plant food avoids FDA testing and regulation), the ingredients aren't a mystery. They are almost always datura infused with a synthetic cannibinoid like the JWH-xxx series or HU-xx.

There are dozens of versions of these, and although the most popular are technically banned now because of FDA concern over blends specifically, many almost identical versions in pure powder form (probably 20x stronger than the amount usually used in "blends") are still available.

Mark Montgomery
Mark Montgomery

I don't believe any of the scare tactics being used all over the country against the bath salts MDPV and methylone, the media has just run with rumors and each news report exaggerates the horrors of these two drugs even more than the last. Set up a Google "alert" for MDPV and just read the reports, they will make you laugh. I bought a gram of methylone and a gram of MDPV, and they're not cheap, with shipping they cost $42 a gram. I had to eat the entire gram of methylone to get a 3 hour buzz and half a gram of MDPV to get a lousy, jumpy high. These two drugs are too expensive to use to get high, you're better off buying a gram of meth or cocaine. I was not impressed. Remember the old adage: "Don't believe everything you read". Mark Montgomery NYC, NY boboberg@nyc.rr.com

Alex
Alex

Prohibition wasn't in the 40's. eehh facepalm.

Prelude777
Prelude777

Doesn't effect me plenty of legal highs. San Pedro cactus, morning glory seeds, kratom, kava kava 84% extract, dxm/cough syrup, and more.

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