Jalen Rose vs. Grant Hill: Stop It, Already

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What exactly will it take for this Jalen Rose-Grant Hill nuttiness to go away? In case you didn't get in at the beginning, on March 13, ESPN premiered "The Fab Five," a documentary about Michigan's 1991 quintet of freshmen still regarded as the greatest recruiting class ever: Rose, Chris Webber, Juwan Howard, Jimmy King, and Ray Jackson. The team went to the NCAA championship game twice, losing both times.

In the documentary, for which he was executive producer, Rose comments that he thought all black players who went to Duke were "Uncle Toms" and reveals "I was jealous" of Grant Hill and other players who came from solid two-parent families. Other members of the Fab Five express similar sentiments:

When I heard these remarks, I didn't think twice about them - I thought Rose had made it clear he was talking about the way he felt at the time, 20 years ago, and that in fact I thought it was rather brave of him to admit to how he felt then, and now I'm not sure how or why his comments have been so misconstrued.

On March 16, the New York Times ran an op-ed by Grant Hill in which he wrote "I caution my fabulous five friends to avoid stereotyping me and others they do not know in much the same way so many people stereotyped them back them for their appearance and swagger."

But it was a little irresponsible of Hill - and, for that matter, of the Times - to print a response that seemed to disregard the obvious, which was that Rose and his teammates, who came from, let us simply say, less privileged backgrounds, viewed the Duke players with disdain because they envied them.

This afternoon Rose, in an op-ed for the Wall Street Journal's web site, says "Addressing the elephant in the room, comments for in the documentary regarding Duke University were taken completely out of context. I respect the success of Duke's program and stated this was my opinion as a teenager growing up in the inner city in Detroit."

It might have been better if the New York Times or ESPN or someone had invited both men to sit down and talk this through. Curiously, no one did. In any event, Rose had made clear twice that what he said in the documentary indicated no disrespect for either Hill or Duke.

Now, everyone, can we just drop this?

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Johndoak
Johndoak

Dear Jalen:

I just listened, er, attempted to listen, to your "analysis" before the Knicks/Magic game. It was all painful, high-pitched ebonic nonsense, like chalk on a blackboard. Instead of calling Grant Hill racist names, you should have been taking English 101, the class you evidently skipped at U. if Michigan.____________

Grant, please retire REAL soon so you can replace Jalen on ESPN and save the English language ... and our ears.

bozak
bozak

So we can drop it after you stop writing about it. Got it.

Hilarious.

Johndoak
Johndoak

Jalen: I just saw this griinning, head bobbing, illiterate fool who was mumbling indecipherable ebonics instead of providing analysis before an NBA broadcast.on ESPN.This clown could not respond to any of the issues raised by his colelagues. He just kept head bobbing and grinning and stuggling to make comments he apparently had previously memorized. Someone said he was a real Unc-. Oh, wait, that was you, Jalen! Sorry.

ESPN, why is this racist POS on the air. Seriously. _________________

Grant, when you have a moment, please kick this fool's @ss.

Swyatt
Swyatt

Hated and thought are words that are in past tense. Jalen hated duke and the black players there and he thought they were uncle toms. Doesn't mean that's how he feels now. It was very clear that he was speaking on how he felt when he was a teenager. Jalen even stated that it should come to no surprise to any players how he felt about them, because he told them on the court. I'm pretty sure between the 4 meetings between Jalen and Hill in college that Jalen mentioned his dislike or even hatred of Hill and his team.

Kloflin
Kloflin

Mr. Barra, I started watching the documentary but had to stop. It may have been obvious to you but it was not obvious to me that Jalen Rose was talking about how he felt as a teenager. I remember those years and I for one was very impressed with the "Fab 5", as well as in awe of their talent. I am sorry they went through what they did but frankly I don't remember all of the things they mentioned. I only remember being so impressed with the fact that these young men were "freshmen" I have to agree that you for one are "adding fuel to the flames" when you speak of Grant Hill as "a little irresponsible......" .If Jalen Rose wanted to talk of his feelings and not make it appear as if he still felt that way he should have begun the documentary with a statement, "I am going to say how I felt at that point in my life......". I had every intention of watching that documentary but after 10 minutes said "no way" and turned it off.

Johndoak
Johndoak

Hey, Jalen, by your standards, is Obama authentically black?

Guess not: Obama knows who his parents are, speaks English, excelled in school, works hard for a living, has had a career outside sports, hip-hop, and drugs, has no criminal record, and has never hung out in a crack house.

Jalen, next time you broadcast on ESPN, do us a favor. Throw in some noun-verb agreement and a grammatical sentence now and then. Word. Out. :)

Johndoak
Johndoak

You are wrong on the facts: Rose suggested/implied in a recent Skip Bayless interview that he STILL holds his racist Bizarro World (up are down, bad are good) views that equate dysfunctionality with being "authentically" black.

BTW, how is Rose still employed at ESPN after his racial slurs directed at every black Duke basketball player past and present, including players like Hubert Davis who work for ESPN? If ESPN's Jay Bilas had called Rose a semiliterate hood rat, Bilas would have been dismissed before lunch. How crazy is it for Rose to declare blacks who actually know who their parents are, speak English, and live productive non-criminal lives are not "authentic"?

Through his bigoted hate blasts, Jalen Rose showed he is disgrace to his race ... the human race.

@Mr. Hill, we are sorry you had to interrupt your busy schedule to respond in writing to the moronic ebonic babblings of this fool.

bozak
bozak

To say you are being intellectually dishonest would disrespect the word intellect.

Your post is either bigotry and hatred personified, or you are just another one of the many who never saw the documentary and are just prone to posting idiotic drivel.

Fredlewis01
Fredlewis01

Shut the fuck up!!

Johndoak
Johndoak

A Jalen Rose fan no doubt. LOL. But at least it's grammatical.

Monitoruser
Monitoruser

Maybe, these guys were KIDS!!! Think back at what a little shit you were at that age. I know I totally fail the "mature" test at that age. There is no controversy here - period.

Williened
Williened

Rose never backed off his comments. He did acknowledge that Duke was the better team in 1992 but I don't see that he appologized to Hill. He said that he was a teeenager without a filter but never stated that he felt otherwise about Hill or other black Duke players. Jimmy King stated that he still feels that way toward Duke. Racism is racism. Are the black players at Harvard 'Toms' too? I like Jalen Rose and Chris Webber too. They are both part of the NBA establishment. Does that mean they have 'sold out' as Jimmy King puts it or 'Toms' or have they just matured. Maybe Grant Hill matured a little earlier in life.

Ch
Ch

Mr. Barra:

If you believe the debate Mr. Rose ignited should be dropped why are writing this article and why did you include the flowing langauge in your article "But it was a little irresponsible of Hill - and, for that matter, of the Times - to print a response that seemed to disregard the obvious, which was that Rose and his teammates, who came from, let us simply say, less privileged backgrounds, viewed the Duke players with disdain because they envied them' which is an invitation to additional debate. Your are entitled your opinion and evedryone is entleted to theirs.

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