Scientology Critics Find That Someone Wants Their Cellphone Records

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Mike Rinder
What a week it's been in the world of Scientology watching. After a bizarre goon squad tried to intimidate Marty Rathbun at his Corpus Christi home, and then character actor Michael Fairman made public his excommunication declaration, things seemed to be whipping up into something of a fervor.

And now, within a day of each other, both Marty Rathbun and Mike Rinder, the two most high-ranking and high-profile defectors in recent Scientology history, were each notified by T-Mobile that someone was using Social Security Numbers to get into their cellphone records.

Coincidence? Mike Rinder tells me absolutely not.

Just four years ago, Rinder was the chief spokesman of Scientology and head of its covert operations wing, the Office of Special Affairs. Since his defection in 2007,
he's spoken out, denouncing the church he was once paid to made look good.

He says there's no question in his mind who wants to get a look at his cell phone records, and those of Rathbun.

"Of course the church has my social, through my employee records," he told me today by phone from Florida, where he lives. "I'm sure there was some order that was issued [to get the records]."

At his blog, Rathbun noted that someone had used his wife's Social Security Number to change the password on their T-Mobile cellphone. When that happened, the phone automatically received a text message about it.

Rathbun told me that he really wasn't surprised, and that he expected Scientology would use private investigators to access his phone records.

"I've always assumed that they have my phone records," he told me by phone today. "I won't call people back unless they want Scientology to know it."

Rinder believes talk at Rathbun's blog about an ongoing FBI investigation into Scientology may be what motivated someone to access the phone records of the two recent defectors.

"There was a bit of panic on Marty's blog about the ongoing federal investigation," Rinder says. "It happened yesterday. I get one of those little text messages on my phone, saying that my PIN number was being changed. I called and spoke to someone at T-mobile. They said, 'Someone called to get your account information.'"

I suppose that means whoever accessed Rathbun and Rinder's phone records now has the phone numbers of people who have been calling them. Which includes me.

"Here's what to do," Rinder told me, helpfully telling me to call my own phone company. "Tell them you want an extra security password to make any changes. They will do that."

He noted that accessing his phone records is only par for the course. About a year ago, he told me, the person who picks up his garbage knocked on his door with a sheepish look on his face. He told Rinder that a man had offered to pay for any garbage Rinder put out. "The guy said, 'So we keep your bags aside, and we drive it around the corner and he's waiting there.'"

As Rinder was quick to point out, garbage-sifting is a very standard practice by private investigators, and it didn't really bother him. The only thing he changed after being told that his garbage was for sale was to put more dog crap in it.


Tony Ortega is the editor-in-chief of The Village Voice. Since 1995, he's been writing about Scientology at several publications. Among his other stories about L. Ron Hubbard's organization:

The Larry Wollersheim Saga -- Scientology Finally Pays For Its Fraud
The Tory Bezazian (Christman) Story -- How the Internet Saved A Scientologist From Herself
The Jason Beghe Defection -- A Scientology Celebrity Goes Rogue
The Robert Cipriano Case -- A Hellacious Example of Fair Game
The Paul Haggis Ultimatum -- The 'Crash' Director Tells Scientology to Shove It
The Marc Headley Escape -- 'Tom Cruise Told Me to Talk to a Bottle'
The Aaron Saxton Accusation -- Australia turns up the heat on Scientology
The Jefferson Hawkins Stipulation -- Scientology's former PR genius comes clean
The Daniel Montalvo Double-Cross -- Scientology lures a young defector into a trap
A Church Myth Debunked -- Scientology and Proposition 8
Daniel Montalvo Strikes Back -- Scientology Hit with Stunning Child-Labor Lawsuits
When Scientologists Attack -- The Marty Rathbun Intimidation
A Scientologist Excommunicated -- The Michael Fairman SP Declaration



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102 comments
Fred
Fred

Don't know why Private Investigators always get the blame for these activities. It is more than likely Scientology employees or members, who have learnt some tichniques or have obtained the information from employee records.

Tom Cruisolta
Tom Cruisolta

The cult of Scientology will stop at nothing to ruin your life if you are in the least critical of them. And this is a religion?

Old OT7
Old OT7

I'll take your question as rhetorical. Hubbard never meant his creation to be a religion. I was only after being raided by the FBI and Food & Drug Administration did he affect the trappings of religiosity. Organized scientology is no more a religion than the Mafia is. If organized scientology was a country it would be North Korea.

To see their most "sacred scriptures" OT3, go to:www.xenu.net. Scroll down to the very bottom where it says, "Always Remember To Laugh." Click on "South Park Takes On Scientology." Let it ramp up and enjoy the show. What you will be viewing for free is what members pay tens of thousands of dollars for. Why so secret? Because if they told you up front what their core belief is (that every man, woman and child have between 2,000 & 3,000 disembodied spirits of dead space aliens attached to their bodies) you'd be ROTFLYAO (Rolling on the floor laughing your a** off!). After which you'd be walking out the door with all of your bank accounts intact!

stella
stella

Call me not quite credulous. While I preface this with the phrase "I am not a scientologist" please don't mistake me for an apologist for the nasty cult.

But wtf?

How could someone so experienced in scilon blackops allow this to happen? i know that we all regular thetans have given up the ghost insofar as keeping our private biz private in the age of the internet and big banking. But you;d think Marty of all people, considering his experience hunting wayward thetans down would know how to keep por Msey safe and anonymous.

I mean really.

SciCult
SciCult

Hey "lady i said no"...I will help you. I will give you a place to live, a connection to your family, money to do what you need. I'm not kidding. Respond and I will take care of you and your family.

Fred Milker
Fred Milker

Actually, almost ALL former members, especially the thousands that speak openly about their experiences, report that they're overwhelmed by the love and support that they receive. So many of former members find that their supposed "friends" (current members) are very quick to turn on them and try to break down their new life, while it's the non-or former- members that are there for them.

SciCult
SciCult

My gosh~ what a scary bunch they are!

A Real Critic
A Real Critic

Marty isn't exactly a "critic". He just wants Miscavige out so it can be the Rathbun & Rinder show. He's still drinking the insane koolaid that scientologists call Dianetics.

Walterlll Melon
Walterlll Melon

God, the smirk on that guys face really makes you wonder, doesn't it? What I've read about the guy he sounds pretty obsessive, to say the least. What really opened my eyes about his was this: http://www.freedommag.org/spec...

SFF
SFF

While I certainly believe that OSA are generally inclined towards acquiring phone records of people who have been declared "fair game" I wish Marty would back things up with documents once in a while.

Also Tony, I'd suggest looking up Jesse Prince's blog if you haven't done so. While Jesse may have some form of agenda too the information he releases seems less self-serving than the bits Marty doles out.

Louanne
Louanne

Breaking the Telephone Records and Privacy Protection Act of 2006 (H109-4709) or “pretexting” law allows for fines and imprisonment of up to 10 years for those who use fraud, deceit, or computer access in a successful or an unsuccessful attempt to obtain, transfer, or disclose phone records without prior customer authorization. It applies to phone and Internet-enabled communications and contains additional penalties for aggravated cases. That covers those engaged in numerous violations, as well as those who use the information to commit other crimes such as stalking, witness intimidation, or crimes against law enforcement.

If Mark and Marty are falsely reporting these crimes, they've put themselves in harms way. If their contention is factual (easily proven either way), then one should consider the ramifications for the perpetrators. Placed in the context of stalking, and perhaps even more appropriately (given some on-going law enforcement activities), witness intimidation, one would question the mental capacity of whomever directed this operation.

SciCult
SciCult

As you declared, "if". Just sayin

Not going to get my money
Not going to get my money

These goons need to be taken down now. The fact that they have lasted this long pulling these criminal acts is way to much. The fact that the Feds have not shut them down and arrested DM is completely insane. This would not happen to you or I if we pulled this shit...it would be off with their heads, no questions asked.

ANONYMOUS
ANONYMOUS

[quote] The insanity of the comments is in direct proportion to the truth in the article. The level of response in the comments is proportional to the insanity of scientology

Peter
Peter

The insanity of the comments is in direct proportion to the truth in the article.

Brent S
Brent S

Yo PETE YOU are a loser!

Caroline
Caroline

Scientology trying to get into critics cell phone records? Why that's just ridiculous. I mean sure, Scientology was responsible for the largest infilltration of government offices in U.S. history and yes, recently in Turin, Italy, investigators uncovered a basement stash of records containing sensitive personal data about local officials and journalists that Scientology considers enemies, and okay, Scientology did try to get Paulette Cooper sent to prison for life by manufacturing bomb threats after stealing her stationary. But this? Come on, not the most, ahem, ethical people on the planet!

ANONYMOUS
ANONYMOUS

[QUOTE]Hot air galore. You need to try eating something apart from rice and beans.

Louanne
Louanne

Hot air galore.

Louanne's BT
Louanne's BT

Louanne Lee,

Feeling a little down? Are you even trying?

Fred Milker
Fred Milker

Louanne, thanks for posting under your "real" identity this time! It's always so confusing when you post under so many different accounts.

Guest
Guest

Our OSAbots were a little late to the party today, what with the ever more difficult task of getting those Thursday afternoon stats in place. Fortunately for them, their diminutive cult leader is having an even tougher time finding more competent help and thus has no choice but to send them out for yet another week of tragic failure. Such is the state of the cult of scientology in 2011.

But if it helps any, Louanne, Ginny, Flora, Foose, Collin, Jack and all of the rest of your pseudonyms, take solace in the fact that as bad as this week may have been for you, last week was better even in spite of the fact that it too was a dismal failure for you. Come next week, you'll be able to say the same about this week. So on and so on, right up until the day your cult implodes and you find yourself out on the street with no freinds, no skills, no education and no job prospects. Hip hip hooray!!

Slppact
Slppact

The problem is that no one can believe anything Marty says. He has been playing the martyr card for quite a while. DOCS???

Brent S
Brent S

It's SO sad the SC cultists have NOTHING better to do...Have any CHILDREN that might need fed??!

SciCult
SciCult

Ah, nuts. Another one? Poor, poor cult...Slppact, I'm runnin' outta room, but I will take you in...Just run, Honey. RUN!!!!

Brass_Balls
Brass_Balls

Why hasn't the FBI locked up that dwarf Miscavige yet? What else do they need????

Brent S
Brent S

They will...Human slavery I understand is a BIG no no...

Rex Fowler
Rex Fowler

I think they're having trouble catching him.

His little Oompa Loompa body keeps escaping through gaps in the floor.

Brent S
Brent S

But but but...Tommy says Davey is SOooo tough!!!

Foose Doll
Foose Doll

The Canadian Security Intelligence Service might do something about it. Why dont you drop them a holler, eh, they're friendly.

Rice&beans
Rice&beans

Foose Doll and Jack are the same poster.......posting from Int. How are those rice and beans ?

Rice&beans
Rice&beans

Foose,

Be careful what you wish for, lil Davie just might make you eat that baby's diaper!

Jack Veddicho
Jack Veddicho

Rice and Beans? Don't drag our Mexican brothers and sisters into this. This is a beef with Canada. Specifically, with Canadian beef. Ever heard of a Montreal Smoked Meat sandwich? I will tell you what, there's only one kind of meat I want smoked, but never in Montreal.

Foose Doll
Foose Doll

Considering that my mom is Mexican...the rice and beans are quite delicious, thanks for asking. You know what I call tortillas? Bean blankies ; ) The Mexican food in Canada is scarce to say the least and absolutely horrid when you do find it. Id rather eat of a babies diaper.

Carmine Street
Carmine Street

This whole situation with Scientology is boiling over. Old friends, who I have not heard from in over 10 years, because they were deeply involved in Scientolgy, are suddenly leaving.Many promises of special powers were made to them. These promises were false. They have now seen it for themselves and have decided to leave and many go with a lot of anger.

Carmine Street
Carmine Street

The Canadians I knew all left Scientology 20 years ago.

Foose Doll
Foose Doll

Are they Canadian?

Ida Camburn
Ida Camburn

All the nonsensical talk about Canada in the comments are most likely posted by a single person working for the Scientology enterprise. Their goal is to draw attention away from the fact the the Scientology enterprise is criminally involved in stealing people's cell phone records.

Brent S
Brent S

Why are all Scientologists fat and ugly?

Anna
Anna

I'm pretty sure they were.

Jack Veddicho
Jack Veddicho

No doubt they are. Canadians are deeply, deeply angry people. Just look at the way they cry about everything. It disgusts me.

Angry_BT
Angry_BT

Jack,

Don't you mean Scientologists? They cry about everything....even this article.

SciCult
SciCult

Jack, I'll help you:)

ANONYMOUS
ANONYMOUS

The cult gestapo has arrived :)A part of the scientology dogma is harrasment of the cults critics.Jesus said turn the other cheek.L ron hubbard said Fair game them.http://www.mediafire.com/?ignt...This is hubbard planning operation normandy.enjoy.

Jack Veddicho
Jack Veddicho

Wait, i thought it was Balkan criminals who try to hack these kind of phone accounts. or people like the dudes that ripped off over 70 million records from Sony with that PlayStation business. Those black-sweatered gangster types with accents and bad teeth smoking unfiltered cigarettes; those are the guys you gotta worry about. I thought I read the Eastern European gangs were the ones behind the string of credit card fraud at gas stations, faking the ATM machines at the pump. Or literally making thousands of fraudulent cards, buying a grip of pricey handbags and flipping them on eBay. That's the kinda shady stuff folks gotta be looking out for.

Burping BT
Burping BT

Jack,

You aren't trying to derail this thread much, are you?

choocho
choocho

Scientology is responsible for the largest infiltration of the U.S. Government in American history.

Jack Veddicho
Jack Veddicho

Wait, more than Canadians? I thought they were all up in the government. Trust me, those people are NOT to be trusted. They act all friendly, talking all kinds of mad smack about how great you are. Next thing you know, they're making passes at your lady with that crazy accent, all saying 'sooory'. Those dudes are in the government, for sure. Also, they're very close by, which is scary.

choocho
choocho

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O...Operation Snow White was the Church of Scientology's name for a conspiracy during the 1970s to purge unfavorable records about Scientology and its founder L. Ron Hubbard. This project included a series of infiltrations and thefts from 136 government agencies, foreign embassies and consulates, as well as private organizations critical of Scientology, carried out by Church members, in more than 30 countries;[1] the single largest infiltration of the United States government in history[2] with up to 5,000 covert agents.

So Jack, your religion, if not the administrative division you work/post for did this?

ADL
ADL

Foose,

Did you hear that Tom Cruize is about to lose his humanitarian award from Simon W. Center? Maybe if you, Jack, and Louanne tapped the right phones you'd know about it.

Foose Doll
Foose Doll

Nutmeg,

Did you know that Canada also has a space needle? I figured Seattle was the only place to have one, but Canada has one, too. Except it's called the CN Tower. It's amazing how you can have two totally different countries and still have a common thread that binds them. It's kind of reassuring to realize that maybe Americans and other cultures aren't so different, after all.

Thanks.

Nutmeg
Nutmeg

Jack,

Your trolling is fail........go derail another thread

Foose Doll
Foose Doll

It's sad, but some people don't realize what a big world it is. They don't see how much there is to learn from other cultures. Except Canadian culture. Have you ever been to Canada? If you look for it on a map, you'll realize it isn't far from the United States. Canadian money also makes me think that Canadians wouldn't understand what rappers are talking about when they use the term "dead presidents." You see, even the universal language of music wouldn't translate well between our two diverse cultures. That's it...im protesting the Canadian consulate.

Jack Veddicho
Jack Veddicho

From what I understand, some of the ugliest squirrels in the world can be found in Canada. They are more commonly referred to as Canadian women. I understand the dollar signs too. Those gold-diggers will try to take your nuts and hoard every dime for winter.

Gary Lee-Nova
Gary Lee-Nova

Hi Jack.

Trufax: some of the ugliest $cientologi$t$ & $quirrel$ in the world are to be found in Canada.

We're not proud of it, but what can you do?

Anna
Anna

Yea I went to Canada and talked to a couple of "innocent" kids. They were all and smiling in a way that said "Welcome to Canada", but then I turn my back and heard hateful comments the moment they thought I was out of earshot. I'd rather have brazen, in-your-face criticism, at least it is honest. I hate people who are like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Or like that character in Batman with two faces.

Foose Doll
Foose Doll

Yea Canadians are public enemies....straight up homie. Just days before the Blackhawks' first-round playoff loss to the Vancouver Canucks Wednesday, proud Canadian Patrick Kane announced to a stunned locker room that his father had taken a new job in Boise, ID and that he was moving away with his family. "I'm really sooory to do this to you guys right before the playoffs. I tried to tell my dad that this is where all my friends are and everything, but he just wouldn't listen," said Kane, confirming he would not be allowed to stay behind in Chicago and live with either his grandmother or Blackhawks owner Rocky Wirtz. THIS is the kind of loyalty Canadians are know for; none whatsoever, hence, WHY I'm starting to protest all Black Hawk games from here on out!! Death to the leaf$!!

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