Paulette Cooper's Statement on Tom Cruise Winning a Humanitarian Award

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Paulette Cooper
Last week, at a ceremony in Beverly Hills, the Simon Wiesenthal Center gave Tom Cruise its annual Humanitarian Award. As we pointed out earlier, this did not go down well with people who wondered why such a famous pro-justice organization would give an award to a man almost synonymous with Scientology, a "church" that splits up families, relies on menial labor conducted under harsh conditions, and that is being investigated by the FBI, we hear, for those practices. One of the people stunned by the decision of the Simon Wiesenthal Center is Paulette Cooper, a Holocaust survivor and perhaps the most well known investigator of Scientology.

Her 1971 book, The Scandal of Scientology, was among the first to expose the organization's bizarre beliefs and toxic practices. For this, she was the subject of an outrageous campaign of payback by Scientology. One plot, to get her arrested for issuing bomb threats that she didn't make, was only uncovered when federal agents raided Scientology's offices in 1977 and found evidence of the scheme against Cooper. Google her name for more details on the incredible harassment she survived. Earlier today, she sent me this statement she wanted made public. -- Tony Ortega

On May 5th, Scientologist Tom Cruise was given a Humanitarian Award in LA by the Simon Wiesenthal Center. Whaaatt?? Who will they award next? Mel Gibson for his anti-Semitic rants? Jews for Jesus for their great job converting Jews?

As a survivor of the Holocaust, and the author of a book titled The Scandal of Scientology -- and subsequently the victim of a 15-year campaign by Scientology to try to destroy me for speaking out against them -- I am shocked. How can a (Jewish) human rights organization, like SWC -- supposedly dedicated to education about the Holocaust -- give such an award in good conscience?

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In my work many years ago exposing Scientology, I saw so many Jewish (and non-Jewish) families bankrupted, and destroyed, as Scientology members cut off from their families and their religion. I also witnessed (and was victim of) their "Fair Game Policy," stating that "Enemies of Scientology" can be " tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed."

I know of another group that also believed their enemies could be destroyed. As a result, my mother and father and most of my family died in Auschwitz.

According to the Scientologists, Tom Cruise has disseminated Scientology's teachings to 1.1 billion people. While that figure, like so many of theirs, is patently ridiculous, he has reached a lot of people. And that has given Scientology respectability, acceptability, and a following that does no good for the Jewish people.

I hope those contributing to the SWC reconsider their values, just as the Wiesenthal Center has obviously reconsidered theirs.

Paulette Cooper Noble
Author of The Scandal of Scientology



Tony Ortega is the editor-in-chief of The Village Voice. Since 1995, he's been writing about Scientology at several publications. Among his other stories about L. Ron Hubbard's organization:

The Larry Wollersheim Saga -- Scientology Finally Pays For Its Fraud
The Tory Bezazian (Christman) Story -- How the Internet Saved A Scientologist From Herself
The Jason Beghe Defection -- A Scientology Celebrity Goes Rogue
The Robert Cipriano Case -- A Hellacious Example of Fair Game
The Paul Haggis Ultimatum -- The 'Crash' Director Tells Scientology to Shove It
The Marc Headley Escape -- 'Tom Cruise Told Me to Talk to a Bottle'
The Aaron Saxton Accusation -- Australia turns up the heat on Scientology
The Jefferson Hawkins Stipulation -- Scientology's former PR genius comes clean
The Daniel Montalvo Double-Cross -- Scientology lures a young defector into a trap
A Church Myth Debunked -- Scientology and Proposition 8
Daniel Montalvo Strikes Back -- Scientology Hit with Stunning Child-Labor Lawsuits
When Scientologists Attack -- The Marty Rathbun Intimidation
A Scientologist Excommunicated -- The Michael Fairman SP Declaration
The Richard Leiby Operation -- Investigating a reporter's divorce to shut him up


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nasemember
nasemember

Miss cooper. GOOD FOR YOU!!! The likes of Tom cruise MUST be exposed For what they are. I am reading the book, Going Clear, Scientology, Hollywood, and the Prison of Belief . Not only was Hubbard a liar, bigamist, and wife beater, he was a sick, psychotic. Keep up the good work! Scientology is for the weak. It has to end.

nasemember
nasemember

Miss cooper. GOOD FOR YOU!!! The likes of Tom cruise MUST be exposed For what they are. I am reading the book, Going Clear, Scientology, Hollywood, and the Prison of Belief . Not only was Hubbard a liar, bigamist, and wife beater, he was a sick, psychotic. Keep up the good work! Scientology is for the weak. It has to end.

Miss Tree
Miss Tree

Ms. Cooper, I will never stop speaking out against this cult and its members, famous or not. Keep up the good work and know that so many hear you and support you and all the other brave souls who have escaped their control. God bless.

CJ
CJ

Thank you, Paulette. Good to see that you keep exposing the Scientology cult and its supporters.

Zach
Zach

L. Ron Hubbard's philosophy of Fair Game is very real and is still applied today. No amount of PR, and no amount of rationalization, can change that. It's a fact. Not only the organization, but the philosophy of Scientology, is a reflection of it's founder: Paranoid, deceitful, ruthless, but very concerned appearances and "image."

  

chris
chris

Is _The_Voice_ and _Angry_Gay_Pope_ - are these organizations - extreme anti-religious organizations?  Are they also into allowing "extreme sins" into the world?  I mean they seem to be into promoting extreme public lewdity. I find some of what they promote to be repulsive. Pornography may be some of what they seem to promote.  This is the kind of stuff that Osama Bin Laden loved to watch.  Pornography is harmful to the world really.  The world is dividing up.   No one can truelly unite all religions into one religion and no one can unite all humanity.  But, the world divides up, naturally, with it being hard to distinguish who is on what side of the spiritual war that rages on.  From which God had me stand down and take a breather or break from for a while, beginning in around March/February sometime.  So, I could get a better feel for things and just who is on the same side as I am and who isn't.   There is a war of the lighter, cream-colored lines of the tentacles of one crowd of people, and the darker, grey, a very dark shade of grey, colored lines of the tentacles of the other crowd of people.  They are on opposing sides.  I thought I was a Christian who basically just simply ignored who Scientology was and was about because they hadn't really bothered me and I just wasn't worried about it.  It's normal in Dallas just to ignore Scientology and they ignore us.  But, in the past few years, I've taken more notice of it, following my study of Messianic Judaism.  That study followed my study of the Charismatic/Pentacostal contemporary form of Christianity.  That study followed my study of traditional Christianity, which includes a number of traditional denominations.  But, some of the studies of my past religious concentrations, still continue to this day.  God gives me visions of some sort.  Which help me in gaining some understanding of issues.  These issues cause even churches to be torn a part in the modern day and age as we don't really know who it is that is on the same side of a war and who it is that is on the opposite side of a war.  I'm not talking about physical, decernable, war, which involve physical weapons that harm the body.  I'm talking about the spiritual warfare that goes on.  It goes on between the Kingdom of Light and the Kingdom of Darkness.  Don't let religious labels fool you.  You don't know who under what label is on the same side as you are, and you don't know who under what religious label is on the opposite side than you are.   God shows me and talks to me about these things.  Then there are those who prefer to go without any religious labels at all.  You never really know which side of the war those folks are on, either.

nein9nein
nein9nein

 He must of ponied up the $.   Tom Cruise is a complete kook and cultist.  I no longer watch his movies.

Randonx2001
Randonx2001

Scientology is good.Say otherwise and they will find out where you live.!!

Concerned Citizen
Concerned Citizen

 One point that has been getting ignored in all of the discussions about the SWC and Tom Cruise is the fact the the SWC is not like other human rights organizations that applies human rights equally to all people.  They are right of center and not impartially concerned with human rights violations around the globe.  They have been known to fan flames of fear in order to raise money.  I was once invited to speak about AIDS at their Museum of Tolerance and was asked by their head of education to please not mention anything about homosexuality.  Interesting position for an organization supposedly dedicated to tolerance  Now everyone knows they are more concerned with profit than principles after they gave this award to Tom Cruse.

Very concerned
Very concerned

Thank Paulette for speaking out.  In 1969 I was asked to help a college student who came to me in tears claiming that she wanted to leave Scientology because it was costing too much and was told if she did leave, all of her confidential "auditing" could be made public.  I went to their campus facility and found smiling faces and men in Roman Catholic style collars and they seemed so since.  I actually believed that the young lady had a problem.  I lost contact with her but then your book came out (I still have it) and realized what a mistake I had made.  That launched what has been a continuing a 40 year study of the organization.  If the leaders of SWC had  taken the time to look into the background of the organization, I'm sure their response would have been different.  Manybe they now can influence Cruise, as a humanitatirian, to look into all of the human relations violations committed by Scientology and help open his eyes to the reality behind the organization he serves.  Hope srings eternal.

Jonathan van der Berg
Jonathan van der Berg

 Thank you Paulette! I have the utmost respect for this woman. She endured a payback, scientology style, for simply writing a book that exposed some very disturbing insights into this dangerous organization. I urge you to google her name and find out the lengths scientology will go to in order to silence its critics.

PamEllis
PamEllis

 I hope that in the future, the Simon Wiesenthal Center researches whom they are giving their award to and what it really represents.Yes they are giving it to a famous person whose award ceremony will bring in many donations.  But this particular recipient has a lot of baggage.  He is the face of scientology to much of the world in the absence of Hubbard himself.  The leader of scientology, David Miscavige does not make public appearances except to primarily scientology crowds.  Tom Cruise and David Miscavige are well known as good friends.  Tom Cruise is well aware of what scientology's ultimate goal of clearing the planet of suppressive persons.  He has even joked about this that in the future, suppressive persons will not exist except in history books. Every critic of scientology is considered a suppressive person.  L. Ron Hubbard placed all humans on what is called the "Tone Scale".   It goes from -40 for total failure to 40 for Serenity of beingness.  People can move up and down the scale, but scientologists seeks to be on the upper end.Covert hostility is at 2 on the scale.  Homosexuals according to Hubbard are at 1.1.

Hubbard said this about people located here on the tone scale:"…any person from 2.0 down on the tone scale should not have, in any thinking society, any civil rights of any kind, because by abusing those rights they bring into being arduous and strenuous laws which are oppressive to those who need no such restraints" and "There are only two answers for the handling of people from 2.0 down on the tone scale, neither of which has anything to do with reasoning with them or listening to their justification of their acts. The first is to raise them on the Tone Scale by unenturbulating some of their theta by any one of the three valid processes  The other is to dispose of them quietly and without sorrow."

Tom Cruise is a high level scientologist.  He believes this.  Just ask him to say Hubbard was wrong, he cannot do that.  

Remember,  "...dispose of them quietly and without sorrow."

Caroline
Caroline

Thank you for continuing to speak out Paulette; you are truly an inspiration.  It is difficult to even imagine what you went thru with this sick, twisted organization.  To see Cruise honored as a "humanitarian" by the SWC is simply mind-boggling and SW himself would be appalled.  Scientology hasn't changed since Operation Freakout; they would gleefully "dispose of quietly without sorrow" anyone who speaks out against them.And now the world is finally seeing Scientology for what it is. 

Mariangela_99
Mariangela_99

Paulette, find something useful to do with you hands, like basket-weaving, perhaps.  This is such a boring article of nonsense that was attempted to be claimed 25 years ago.  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Fredric L. Rice
Fredric L. Rice

Good bloody grief, what utter insanity. Scientology's gross human rights violations and core criminality -- and the SWC hands their head public relations criminal an award for humanitarian. Utterly unfucking believable.

Wu Kapauw
Wu Kapauw

Try as they might with their ludicrous and sinister cloak and dagger style tactics, in the end Scientology at the height of its power could not destroy Paulette Cooper. And the visible cracking and failing of Hubbard's scam group nowadays must be sweet, sweet vindication for her after so many years of harrassment by them. Shame on you, posters here who still have the gall to defend Scientology. Wake up and get out like thousands of others have done. Or are you just waiting around for a Jim Jones-style final implosion or, best case, criminal prosecution?

Get real, too many people have told the truth about LRH's scam and its abuses for you not to get with the facts and be responsible for your own actions.

Hellovahoax!
Hellovahoax!

There was a pivotal moment in time when all those former sea org members came forward with EYEWITNESS testimony of Miscavige beating staff OR having PERSONALLY been a victim to such brutal assaults.

Shortly after those stunning revelations, there was an eerie silence from Tom Cruise where one would normally expect a response demanding an immediate and full investigation as to the truth of those horrifying allegations.

We waited....

Soon thereafter Cruise paid his attorney to issue a letter that simply said that Tom did not believe it. 

Was that the character-defining response of a "humanitarian"--or a cowardly dupe who elected to be complicitous to such atrocities?

Tom Cruise, unfortunately, has aggressively crossed the threshold of stupidity and neutrality squarely into the camp of sociopathic aggressors and predators.

He has chosen to support and even protect vicious human rights violations. 

Helpful tip to the actor Tom Cruise: Call a press conference today. Give all your medals back from Wiesenthal and the CoS. Stop "acting" like a humanitarian and do the right thing.

Outraged
Outraged

I am glad Paulette Cooper has spoken out about the absudiity in giving Tom Criusea humanitarian award. He aggressively promotes a cult which routinely abuses its victimsand has consistenely violated human rights all for the purpose of mentally enslaving peopleto get the maximum amount of profit from them. Tom Criuse is not a humantitarian. He is a danger to society and to Human Rights.

mirele
mirele

Paulette, thank you so much for speaking up. I sincerely hope this doesn't earn you another round of harassment from the cult.

choocho
choocho

 Cheers to Paulette Cooper, a brave,beautiful and classy lady who should be the one winning awards. 

Theta_Bop
Theta_Bop

Paulette Cooper knows very well what she is talking about. She suffered through many YEARS of severe attempts by the Church of Scientology aimed at DESTROYING her.

She wrote a very accurate book about Scientology. I know because I was involved for many years with Scientology as a public, staff and Sea Org member. The book was honest, but the Church of Scientology went after her to try to shut her up (because the book didn't make them out to look very good). The Church of Scientology used it's "Guardian's Office" (now known as the "Office of Special Affairs") to set up Paulette in manufactured crimes that she never committed! Can you imagine a CHURCH doing such things? That is the sort of thing we have come to expect from corporations and governments, but NOT from churches.

Scientology views its "expansion" as a WAR, and it has entire divisions and departments whose jobs involve COVERT OPERATIONS aimed at lying, slandering, disrupting innocent lives, spreading disinformation and false information, etc. Paulette was on the receiving end of THAT sort of Scientology "religious" behavior.

Tom Cruise supports a group (Scientology) that practices forced disconnection (while Scientology's PR person, Tommy Davis, blatently LIES and asserts that no such thing happens). Tom Cruise supports a group that happily and willingly LIES about people such as Paulette, and which directly intends and aims to HARM people through lies, deception, manipulation and more.

Paulette Cooper has done more for "humanitarian concerns" than 100 Tom Cruises, simply by having had the guts and fortitude to EXPOSE some aspects of the very nasty and manipulative Church of Scientology.

Maximillian
Maximillian

Ms Cooper is one of the heroes of journalism and human rights. Her book about scientology and a link to the story of her extraordinary abuse by the cult are available here: http://www.xenu.net/archive/bo...

PamEllis
PamEllis

Clbss/Chris...please check your meds 

Jack_UK
Jack_UK

Pam, if I may add my $0.02 worth... It seems clear from some of his early writings that LRH, at that time, viewed same sex activity (which he was in fact referring to, ~not~ homosexuals as individuals) with a degree of hostility. Fine. He wasn't the first and he most certainly won't be the last. And, hey, it's also worth noting that the American Psychiatric Association considered homosexuality a "mental illness" around about the same time. Hubbard, however, altered his viewpoint (as human beings are free and able to do, huzzah!) as development of Dianetics and Scientology progressed. In 1952, just one year after Science of Survival (which you quote from) Hubbard stated during a lecture on the "second dynamic" (aka the desire of an individual to have sex, or to procreate) that homosexuality "is about as serious as sneezes". [1] Five years later, Hubbard spoke further, effectively suggesting that homosexuality was pretty natural considering the spiritual history of the individual in relation to his/her past lives. [2] Finally, in 1967, he issued an official policy cancelling previous rules and regulations on the subject (as a historical note, this was a good six years before the APA changed their position). [3]

As for being disposed of, hah! Study the subject of PTSness and Suppression if you genuinely wish to understand this particular point in full. HCO PL 16 Oct 1967, SUPPRESSIVES & THE ADMINISTRATOR, in particular, sums up pretty nicely what it actually means to be "disposed of quietly and without sorrow". (Hint for the numpties: he's not talking about genocide). :o)

1. October 1952 lecture, The Resolution of the Second Dynamic2. July 1957 lecture, Child Scientology (Freedom Congress)3. HCOPL 11 August 1967 Second Dynamic Rules

red_zone
red_zone

Then why comment?

Oh, right... OSA.

Fred Milker
Fred Milker

where have I heard that before.... oh, right, in EVERY article that presents negative information about scientology. Standard tactic- (called "ad hominim") attack the person's credibility or attack them personally, rather than the topic itself. The very few people (one or two using different usernames) that post positively about scientology all trot out the same tired insults in order to distract from the legitimate criticisms.

Zach
Zach

Basket weaving? Would you like to see her framed and put in an institution? Oh wait, Scientology already tried to do that.

Scientology is *so* sick that it continues - to this day - to attack Paulette Cooper in its propaganda sites on the net, and through its flunkies in Scientology.

Sick and evil.

sizzle8
sizzle8

Too bad the documents proving Paulette is telling the truth are part of the court record and are available for anyone to inspect - documents seized from Scientology's headquarters, including Hubbard's own handwritten notes.

Guest
Guest

I've heard multiple people are already reversing their donations because of this.

Zach
Zach

 Paulette Cooper was very strong, and also kind of lucky. The FBI raids of 1977 happened. These raids (in two cities) were prompted by Scientology's burglarizing of government offices and files, not by Scientology's abuses against private citizens. It was an accident that crimes against Paulette Cooper, and others, were exposed.  

Many people have been harmed by Scientology, and Scientlogy had gotten away with it. Many people have been silenced by Scientology. You don't see or hear these people anymore.  They've been "handled" by Scientology.

Zach
Zach

From the Hubbard Communication Office Bulletin of 7 March 1965, 'Suppressive Acts, Suppression of Scientology and Scientologists, the Fair Game Law':

"A Suppressive Person becomes 'fair game'.

"By Fair Game is meant, without rights for self, possessions or position, and no Scientologist may be brought before a Committee of Evidence [Scientology court] or punished for any action taken against a Suppressive Person or group...

"Suppressive acts are defined as actions or omissions undertaken to knowingly suppress, reduce or impede Scientology...

"Such suppressive acts include public disavowal of Scientology... public statements against Scientology...

[Suppressive acts include] 1st degree murder, arson, disintegration of persons or belongings *not* guilty of suppressive acts...

"Suppressive persons place themselves beyond any consideration for their feelings or well being...

"The homes, property, places and abodes of persons who have been active in attempting to suppress Scientology... are all beyond any protection..."

Angelwolf958
Angelwolf958

 Jack,  you seem to be indicating that everything changed by 1967 as far as Scientologys attitude towards homosexuality.  I might actually believe that had I not worked for numerous branches of your organization back in the 1980's and saw no evidence of these changes you speak of.  

And looking at recent evidence leads me to believe all is still the same.  Less than two years ago Paul Haggis, an award-winning film maker resigned your organization in disgust saying:"As you know, for ten months now I have been writing to ask you to make a public statement denouncing the actions of the Church of Scientology of San Diego. Their public sponsorship of Proposition 8, a hate-filled legislation that succeeded in taking away the civil rights of gay and lesbian citizens of California – rights that were granted them by the Supreme Court of our state – shames us.I called and wrote and implored you, as the official spokesman of the church, to condemn their actions. I told you I could not, in good conscience, be a member of an organization where gay-bashing was tolerated.

 see the full quote over here:http://www.scientology-cult.co...

I see little evidence that there have been any REAL policy changes since Hubbard wrote those words back in 1952.  On more than one occasion your organization has "canceled" a policy that was causing bad public relations but then would continue operating the very same way.  It was only canceled on paper.  That's what looks like has happened here as well.  

PamEllis
PamEllis

You suggest I look to some background information, but do not provide links.  In addition, there are no shortage of stories of members of scientology who were told scientology would cure them of their homosexuality and that it was a state they needed to be corrected.  Michael Pattinson who went to OT VIII is easy to google and he has been very forthright in what he experienced in scientology.  Hubbard is also on record ending disconnection between members and their friends and family who left or were critical of scientology.  But in reality, it still goes on to this day.  Can members of the Sea Org be openly gay?  One can talk about how long it is taking the U.S. military to accept openly gay members...but the military is run by regular humans...not the super Homo Novis produced by scientology.

If you have information that relates to an alteration of Hubbard's words concerning what to do with SPs or people low on the tone scale and what it really means, please post a mini-version here.  What did he really mean by dispose?  Dispose of doesn't sound pleasant no matter how you slice it. 

And as far as Hubbard being a product of his time, I agree 100%.  The problem is his followers believe he had achieved a high level of understanding of how humans "worked" when he wrote and said what I posted.  That Hubbard had lived before and he had great knowledge as a result of his past incarnations.  He was either a regular Joe reflecting his time period or he possessed great knowledge from the cosmos and that knowledge showed homosexuality was wrong and to be corrected.

Here is the video where Cruise is happy about a future without SPs.  One can define SPs as just really bad people, but Hubbard was clear...SPs also included all critics of scientology.  you tube dot com slash watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0Skip to 4:21.

Guest
Guest

The man was a psychopath.  And a pathologic liar. THAT is well documented.

Mariangela_99
Mariangela_99

Zach and Fred, this is the same type of drivel coming from the same small group of people who froth at this mouth every time a Scientologist does something good -- and there are countless examples of Scientologists helping people all around the world -- which is what Scientology is.  Some people go berserk at the thought of anyone helping anyone.  Get over it and move on.  My comments are done here.

Caroline
Caroline

I've heard that as well.  And with good reason.  This was a very short-sighted decision on SWC's part; it will come back to haunt them, and it should.   

Zach
Zach

 Jack_UK: I am familiar with that site. It ignores the covert design of Scientology. The senior doctrine of Scientology is confidential and highly confidential and overrides the visible policies.

The HCOPL I quoted is still Scientology "scripture." Fair Game as a practical philosophy continues to this day, No amount of rationalizing will make it otherwise. 

Here's a link that might help you. It examines Scientolology as designed by its founder. Read it and learn.

http://www.xenu-directory.net/...

Gary Lee-Nova
Gary Lee-Nova

Is there a reverb echo or something in here? Or over there? Or, something?

Another question? Why should Zach "lease visit the site" ?

Jack_UK
Jack_UK

Zach, please visit the site I linked to. The data you lack can be found there.

Zach
Zach

You're funny, Jack_UK. I know you'd say that. The December 1965 slightly revised version was slightly modified when it became apparent that an non confidential HCOB specifically advocating murder was ill advised. The revised version is not much better, and one might ask, Why did Hubbard write the first version in the first place?

No, you can't weasel out of this that easily. Or by claiming that Fair Game (trick, sue, lie to, destroy, etc.) was discontinued in 1968. As you know, only the *name* was discontinued, not the practice.

I am curious about one thing. You left corporate Scientology, yet you still shill for Hubbard and Scientology. Why?

Jack_UK
Jack_UK

That is not a valid policy and is therefore misleading. Please refer to HCO PL 23 Dec 65RB Suppressive Acts - Suppression of Scientology and Scientologists.

For a detailed analysis of "Fair Game", what it actually meant and why it was cancelled, visit http://bit.ly/j2rWZm

Jack_UK
Jack_UK

 I requested actual information, you suggest that the answers are out in the internet.  I want to know what *YOU* consider important to know and what *YOU* think I am misinterpreting.Every bad thing that is going on with the current CoS went on when Hubbard was around.  Disconnection, RPF, the Sea Org, child labor...etc.  I get the impression from ex-members that the intense call for donations rather than exchange of money for services has stepped since Hubbard's death...but that is about all I will grant.  CoS is rotten from the head down and takes advantage of people who joined because they thought they would help the world.Anyone who says Hubbard was an humanitarian has not read anything written by people who knew him and I feel suffers from cognitive dissonance.

Pam, it comes down to interest level. Are you open and willing to accept an alternative viewpoint? If so, I have already provided a policy reference to get you started. If you are sincere in your quest for truth then study the full materials on this subject before evaluating. Forming an opinion based on a quote here, a snippet there, does no one any favours.

Disconnection was cancelled by Hubbard in 1968 per HCO PL 15 November 1968, Cancellation of Disconnection. It was reinstated by David Miscavige per HCOB 10 September 1983, PTSness and Disconnection, a "squirrel" bulletin written by Robert Vaughn Young, assisted by Ray Mithoff, and issued without Hubbard's knowledge. For more information this visit http://www.scientology-cult.co...

The RPF was originally intended as a benign program of rehabilitation, where SO members would study for five hours a day, whilst getting involved in manual labour. Completion time was usually a few weeks to a couple of months max. It sounded okay in theory. Whatever you choose to believe on this point, it is clear that with Hubbard gone, the RPF under Miscavige (particularly at Int) has been turned into a severely abusive form of punishment and behaviour modification, more so now than at any point in its history. Read some of the stories told by former Int Base staff, as well as from those who worked with Hubbard himself, at markrathbun.wordpress.com 

Cognitive dissonance, huh? What, just because someone disagrees with you? Why not go the whole hog and accuse me of being mentally ill whilst you're at it? Hah! Psychopolitics, gotta love it. :o)

Pam, there is a multitude of viewpoints surrounding these issues and seemingly everyone with a story to tell has had a different experience. Some good, some bad, some exquisite, some horrific. Maybe, just maybe, without invalidating anyone along the way, the "real truth" lies somewhere in the middle.

Zach
Zach

Jack_UK says "start from the beginning."  Jack, do you mean from 1938, when Hubbard wrote that his "real goal" was to "smash" his "name into history"? Or is that from 1946, when he wrote of his hypnotic powers over others and how men were his slaves? Or is that from 1955, when he wrote of using the legal system to "harass" so as to "ruin utterly," or was that from 1959, when he wrote, "There are men dead because they attacked us," or is that from 1960, when he wrote, "find or *manufacture enough threat..."

The Fair Game Law, which sanctioned 1st degree murder on Suppressive Persons, was written in March 1965.

PamEllis
PamEllis

@ Jack_UKI requested actual information, you suggest that the answers are out in the internet.  I want to know what *YOU* consider important to know and what *YOU* think I am misinterpreting.Every bad thing that is going on with the current CoS went on when Hubbard was around.  Disconnection, RPF, the Sea Org, child labor...etc.  I get the impression from ex-members that the intense call for donations rather than exchange of money for services has stepped since Hubbard's death...but that is about all I will grant.  CoS is rotten from the head down and takes advantage of people who joined because they thought they would help the world.Anyone who says Hubbard was an humanitarian has not read anything written by people who knew him and I feel suffers from cognitive dissonance.

Jack_UK
Jack_UK

Pam, I would humbly suggest you separate Scientology from the "Church of Scientology". What Hubbard wrote and what the CoS practices are, sadly, not the same thing.

As for posting some "Scientology-lite" simply to appease the armchair philosophers here, that's really not my thing. The full materials are broadly available for those who wish to study them. If you wish to understand what Hubbard wrote and why, within a full context, then start at the beginning and go from there.

Jack_UK
Jack_UK

Fred, the key point here that I feel you've missed is this: Tommy Davis is an asshole.

The test of any body of knowledge, imho, is whether it is useful. Does it have any benefit upon application? We can talk about Hubbard's nonsensical thirst for credibility until the cows come home. In the grand scheme of things, however, such trivia is irrelevant (to me; feel free to knock yourself out). I don't give two hoots what the guy based his work on. I only care whether Scientology works when I apply it. So far, it hasn't let me down.

Fred Milker
Fred Milker

 Jack,You're oversimplifying the issue. Yes, we all agree that he did lie about his academic accomplishments, that's a fact. We also know that he didn't change his statements (regarding his alleged "doctorate" until after he was caught doing so. We also know, from his military records, that his heroic claims about his service are false as well. This one is especially important, give CoS Spokesman Tommy Davis' comment:

"if it's true that Mr. Hubbard was never injured during the war, then he never did heal himself using Dianetics principles, then Dianetics is based on a lie, and then Scientology is based on a lie"

We know that Hubbard was never injured during the war. Scientology, per Tommy Davis, is based on a lie.

So, yes, based on lies (as you call "jazzed up" statements), we can dismiss his work.

Jack_UK
Jack_UK

Ohhh lordy! So he jazzed up his CV? So have a third of the adult population [1]. Whoopee doo. And I do believe Albert Einstein was accused of being a fraudster and a plagiarist. Let's dismiss his work. Thomas Edison, him too. Isaac Newton? Nut job. Sigmund Freud? Don't even get me started. Let's dismiss their work because we cannot confront the fact that these people were human beings, not saints, who made mistakes at times and had the same flaws and frailties as the rest of us. A view just as daft and extreme as the Church of Miscavige, who portrays Hubbard as some sort of god and his opinions as absolute truth.

1. According to a UK study conducted in 2009 by the Chartered Institute of Educational Assessors.

red_zone
red_zone

And what 'good' would that be? All they've done is interfere with the work of organizations that do REAL good, not the pseudo 'good' you claim with all the attempts at positive PR, which is in drastically short supply these days.

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