Scientology's 'Martin Luther' Nails Up His Disputation: Marty Rathbun's Open Letter to his Texas Neighbors [UPDATED]

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Rathbun and his wife Monique: Cluing in the neighbors
Updated after the jump: Video from this morning of Scientology's goon squad filming Rathbun's house from a paddle boat! Surveillance never looked so unseaworthy.

Somehow, Marty Rathbun continues to outdo himself at his blog, "Moving On Up a Little Higher." Today, (actually, Sunday -- this post was updated) he provided an open letter to his neighbors, attempting to explain to them who he is and why he is under constant surveillance by odd people from the church of Scientology. It's a remarkable document.

Rathbun is an incredibly controversial figure in the world of Scientology watching. He first became a member of the church in 1978 and rose to one of its highest positions of power before his 2004 defection.

At his most powerful, Rathbun says he answered only to Scientology's ultimate leader, David Miscavige.

Rathbun was an enforcer, a fixer, someone Miscavige could turn to when the church was in trouble. For that reason, many church critics refuse to forgive him for his acts, even seven years after leaving the church and becoming one of Miscavige's chief tormentors.

When the Voice writes about Rathbun, we receive angry comments from Scientologists, ex-Scientologists, and members of Anonymous. He seems to rile up just about everyone.

Except, that is, the growing number of "Independent Scientologists" who are following Rathbun out of Miscavige's organization, threatening its very existence.

Inside Scientology author Janet Reitman compared Rathbun to Martin Luther for leading the schism of Independents. She said that the threat of Miscavige's movement was so serious, Miscavige's Scientology would need to "change or die."

But Rathbun is paying a price for his ongoing protest of Miscavige and "corporate Scientology." That price is constant surveillance and what he says is illegal gathering of his phone and flight records.

In today's open letter to his neighbors, Rathbun provides a remarkable recitation of who he is and how he reached this point. He links to material about him that contains criticisms of him. And he explains what he's doing in south Texas:

I moved to [Ingleside on the Bay, Texas] primarily to write, fish, boat, and spend some years enjoying some of the fundamental virtues that drive humanity but that I found so lacking during most of my adult life in the church of Scientology.

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In 2009, he explains, he began blogging about Scientology, criticizing Miscavige's handling of the church and explaining how he and others had left to find alternative ways to use L. Ron Hubbard's "technology."

A consequence of my having spoken out as loudly and thoroughly as I did was the creation of an exodus of sorts from the Scientology cult.

He then provides a list of what sort of harassment he's been the subject of in the last two years:

1. Hacking my email.

2. Illegally buying my phone records.

3. Buying my trash from BFI and searching it for any clue they could use against me.

4. Setting up 24/7/365 surveillance of my every move; they have had agents embedded in Ingleside and IOB for over a year.

5. Hacking airline computers to get my flight plans so that every time I left town in the past two years, i) my wife was confronted by two unidentified cult members each time, and ii) I was picked up by teams of private investigators at each destination airport.

6. The hacking of my blog and shutting it down.

7. Putting up 28 websites in attempts to slander and discredit me - including such allegations that my wife is in fact a man and that I murdered my own brother thirty years ago. The cult is well heeled and will invent and publish the most vicious defamation, inviting libel suits so that they can ruin the plaintiff utterly by abuse of court processes.

8. Sending private investigators to every former member who has met with me, multiple times, offering cash incentives to bad mouth me in any way.

9. Sending private investigators to harass each of Monique's associates, friends, and even her former husband.

10. Sending teams of dummies to put cameras and microphones in my face in restaurants, sidewalks, airports, and other public places, obstructing my path, then bringing bogus assault charges against me for gently guiding them out of my way when they obstruct me, my wife or friends. To give you an idea how insane it gets, they hired a former FBI agent lawyer in Corpus to heavily lobby to have me prosecuted for grasping a microphone they stuck in my face, over my own property line after I had to herd four of them off my doorstep. Four unidentified intruders who traveled from California for the exclusive purpose of harassing me on my doorstep. The county attorney who evaluated the case said she had seen nothing more frivolous in her career (and could not believe anyone in their right minds would spend money to have an attorney try to lobby for such a case). They have done this to me nine times that I am aware of in three states. All nine cases have been heavily lobbied by their expensive lawyers and cop private investigators. All nine have been laughed out of existence by the officials receiving them. Zero for nine.

Rathbun then posts the video of a Scientology goon squad visiting his house which we wrote about earlier.

Rathbun details the fascinating attempts by a Los Angeles private investigator and a local retired cop to rent a house as close to Rathbun's as possible so that it could be used as a staging location for surveillance.

He then answers a question I've been meaning to ask him: if Miscavige changed tactics and tried to buy him off, would Rathbun back down?

Just so everybody knows, as Miscavige just won't seem to get it through his head, I will never fold to any pressure no matter how intense, and I am not for sale - at any price.

Well, I guess that answers that question.

UPDATE: Rathbun punctuated his post with video that he took this morning. If his words aren't enough to convince you that he's under some extraordinary surveillance by Scientology, watch this short video: three of Scientology's goons crammed into a paddle boat, filming Rathbun's house from the canal out his back door!


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Tony Ortega is the editor-in-chief of The Village Voice. Since 1995, he's been writing about Scientology at several publications. Among his other stories about L. Ron Hubbard's organization:

The Larry Wollersheim Saga -- Scientology Finally Pays For Its Fraud
The Tory Bezazian (Christman) Story -- How the Internet Saved A Scientologist From Herself
The Jason Beghe Defection -- A Scientology Celebrity Goes Rogue
The Robert Cipriano Case -- A Hellacious Example of Fair Game
The Paul Haggis Ultimatum -- The 'Crash' Director Tells Scientology to Shove It
The Marc Headley Escape -- 'Tom Cruise Told Me to Talk to a Bottle'
The Aaron Saxton Accusation -- Australia turns up the heat on Scientology
The Jefferson Hawkins Stipulation -- Scientology's former PR genius comes clean
The Daniel Montalvo Double-Cross -- Scientology lures a young defector into a trap
A Church Myth Debunked -- Scientology and Proposition 8
Daniel Montalvo Strikes Back -- Scientology Hit with Stunning Child-Labor Lawsuits
When Scientologists Attack -- The Marty Rathbun Intimidation
A Scientologist Excommunicated -- The Michael Fairman SP Declaration
The Richard Leiby Operation -- Investigating a reporter's divorce to shut him up
The Hugh Urban Investigation -- An academic takes a harsh look at Scientology's past
Giovanni Ribisi as David Koresh -- A precedent for a Scientology-Branch Davidian link
Janet Reitman's Inside Scientology -- A masterful telling of Scientology's history
The Western Spy Network Revealed? -- Marty Rathbun ups the ante on David Miscavige
Scientology's Enemies List -- Are You On It?
Inside Inside Scientology -- An interview with author Janet Reitman

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theonlycansIholdhavebeerinthem
theonlycansIholdhavebeerinthem

Until everyone admits Hubbard was a bullshit artist and disowns all of the CO$ 'tech', you will never get over the damage scamatology has done.  Damn the CO$, damn the 'squirrels' and everyone who thinks holding two cans improve or fix their lives....the real world is out here, join  the rest of us in it.......

Candy Swanson
Candy Swanson

Great update article.  Love to read more!  Aloha

Gary Lee-Nova
Gary Lee-Nova

No Squirrel Buster Hat Cams?

I am so disappointed and the fail paddle-boat is no compensation.

*** goes away grumpy ***

dagobarbz
dagobarbz

If Marty knows that his wife will likely be visited by OSA goons in his absence, why does he take no measures to ensure her safety?

Marty is not a stranger to Scientology tactics; renting proximal real estate, going door to door around the neighborhood, being followed, stalked, annoyed, etc. He used to do this shit to other people I call friends.

But, he doesn't want to stop this intrusion. Apparently he doesn't care much about the safety of his wife. He could stop this, but if Squirrel Buster Productions ceased activity, he wouldn't have anything to use to draw attention to himself as a victim of "Radical Scientology."

Ah, well. He certainly pulls in the lulz! First it was geezer OTs at his doorstep, with backward ball caps with cameras clipped to them, and now this...Freewinds Junior, the OSA paddleboat flotilla.

I, for one, hope he continues to allow this clown circus to continue. Anonymous is having fantasies involving rubber rafts and pirate paraphernalia. Avast, ye scurvy OTs! Prepare to be pwned!

Anon
Anon

Though I'm sure its annoying to Marty and possibly even alarming, this has got to be one of the funniest acts of surveillance I've ever heard of. I hope some smart Hollywood script writer is taking notes. Those PI guys are going to kill themselves if they aren't more careful...they can't even properly operate a paddle boat for crying out loud. Hilarious.

dagobarbz
dagobarbz

"Why is the port always gone?"

THAT'S STARBOARD, YOU IDIOT!

Arielle
Arielle

Part of me thinks that Marty likes the attention because it makes him feel more important. Otherwise he would have gotten a restraining order against the Church of Scientology and its agents long time ago.

Gone
Gone

 I wonder how many of you commenting on this have actually been to an Org, or Flag for that matter. Who here has spent thousands of dollars or years of your life involved in this scam? Marty, Bob, and Tori are heroes in my book.

William Johnson
William Johnson

I thought the $cientology flagship was a lot bigger than that!!!

SFF
SFF

I guess the asbestos in the Freewinds has forced the Sea Org to deploy their back-up vessel.

MarkStark
MarkStark

The S.S. Squirrel Buster. With stealth capabilities. Their naval fleet is ever expanding.

Hubbard was the first person in a bathysphere and did oceanographic research for the National Geographic and Harvard University. The tradition continues.

Guy in the white shirt needs to be over-boarded, he's not wearing the proper uniform.

If one of those guys is supposed to be rendering the spy vessel invisible with their OT powers, they aren't doing a very good job. Marty tech is all over them.

Why 3 people for this mission/rundown? Don't they have enough footage of what a nice house Marty lives in?

LeoRyan78
LeoRyan78

It's called a "noisy investigation".  They want him to see him-it's supposed to upset him, make him nervous and back him off.

  

kenK
kenK

OMG 

Get a still of that shot of those 3 Baby Hueys in a boat and put a Sea Org logo on it!!

Perfect.  MISGUIDED and DELUDED ...and shouldn't Ralph S. Gomez be out catching big time drug dealers? Or did doing something decent for society get too scary for him?

How much do you think these clowns are getting paid to float around in bermuda shorts stalking people.

figaro
figaro

Isn;t stalking an offence? If so then Scientologists stalking their perceived enemies should be charged. Interdicts should be taken out against such Scientologists.

MarkStark
MarkStark

Let the exodus begin.

Open the gates of Gold base, The Hole, Flag Mindbog, the RPFs around the world, the prisons of the mind created by the evil dwarf.

Let the LRH-trusting HomoNovi walk, crawl, bus, motorcycle, exteriorize, fly on 707s and DC8s to reach sanctuary at Casa Blanca Tejas in Corpus Mharti, Texas.

Give Marty your cripplingly controlled, your hopelessly deluded, your  most ridiculously wealthy uneducated celebrity Scientologists.

It is writ by the Reit they shall become Martyologists. Schiz 'em!

Free cigarettes for the first 10,000 pilgrims!

And may the world see this exodus and ask themselves, “What’s up?”

And may the planetary raw meat read  the Reit book and at least 3 ex-members' experiences BEFORE getting involved with this organization or any of its off-shoots.

A-men and X-men

Tim Arbour
Tim Arbour

Rathbun is getting what he deserves. He was an important part of the swindle. He is still promoting the notion that Hubbard’s teachings are sensible. If or when he has the chance, he will take over and turn it back into the cult it was when Hubbard was alive. Then the critics will be protesting him.

Kinkymartymike69
Kinkymartymike69

I think Marty is seeing martians. Rinder proclaimed, "Marty belongs in a  mental institution. In fact he belongs in an electric chair, full on."  Rinder also stated separately, "Rathbun is a psychopath. He's a real nut case. He's a mental case on the loose."  Quotes can be verified by Rinder. Do not forget that Marty unfortunately has had shock treatment and both his brothers were in mental homes (one who Marty hated is now dead [cold case] and the other Marty has not visited for 15 years) and his mother was in mental institutions and then committed suicide (incidentally this data was not known when in the Church). So you we have a real nutter who in the last 4 months has had 3 police reports for violence and battery assault and was  in jail in New Orleans on his honeymoon .  So keep it going Tony you are feeding a monster who is going to do something that you will have to carry with you the rest of your life. Not maybe, DEFINITELY. So those who want to have their say against the Church, go ahead, it is free country. But remember to examine the facts. 

LeoRyan78
LeoRyan78

You know, Kinky, while I think many people will disagree on the issue of Marty and I find the tendency to canonize him troubling, it's nice to have you arrive and put the CoS's continuing hate campaign on center stage and everything in clear perspective.  

While we may not all agree as regards Mr. Rathbun, we all agree that the time of your cult is drawing to an end.  It is an end that is well deserved.  It is an end that while nudged by critics, is mostly an end of your own making.  For you, as always, are your own worst enemy.  Your comment is old.  Old as the rest of your organization, mired in the 50s and unwilling to change.  The tactics that worked in a bygone era will no longer work.

The spotlight is on you and light is the best disinfectant.    

  

LoyalOfficer#1
LoyalOfficer#1

Janice Meyer AKA Jan Eastgate CCHR President had shock treatment and was recently arrested for covering up child sex abuse in Australia. OT7 Rex Fowler murdered a man after he was caught imbezzling money and giving it to $cientlogy. Scientlogists and others allege David Miscavige's mother in law committed suicide, his twin sister OT7 committed suicide,and Ronnie Miscavige suffers deep depression. So does mental illness run in that family?LRH asked the military for psych help and was on psych meds when he died. Dianetics was originally presented as psychiatry based on the early work of Freud but was rejected by the AMA in 1949-1950 hence the hatred of psychs in C0$. If Marty had had shock treatment he wasn't even supposed to hold such high ranking posts. Neither was Jan Eastgate. Lots of people say David is a violent psychopath. Should any of these illegal pre-clears even be in the CO$? Tony doesn't need to feed the monster, the CO$ feeds upon itself. Why would Rinder say Rathbun belongs in a mental institution when cultists believe only $cientology could help, certainly not psychs! It seems Marty no longer has any record of convictions on those alleged charges. Rex was convicted and Jan will probably be convicted. Maybe it is the crazy belief in body thetans driving the mental illness? Arrrrrgghhhh, these body thetans are like fleas and crabs! I agree, lets examine the facts, bring all of these allegations out in to the open in public view and air out all of the dirty laundry to get to the facts.

SoFlaCuban
SoFlaCuban

 oh yeah, and this is coming from a guy who thinks "kinkymartymike69" is a good moniker. You OSA folks stick out like a sore thumb

Scientia
Scientia

Thanks for drenching me with your venom, Wormtongue.

Hope remains, however. This vile diatribe is not you. You belong in the upper bands of the Tone Scale. It's there you will find yourself, your individuality, your quirkiness, and that which others love about you. Not this out-PR DA=A=A "Miscavalence" crap. ;o)

You CAN be a Scientologist without supporting an abusive, unethical, squirrel organisation. Your eternity is NOT at risk, despite what you may have been told. On the contrary, in fact.

It's time to wise up a bit, grow some balls and start confronting what's really going on.

Tom - whole story
Tom - whole story

Wormtongue?   You've been watching Kelly Preston in Battlefield Earth.  ROFLMAO! See what I mean?   You and Kiny are playing the same game, just opposite teams.    People, if you want to do Scientology, just do Scientology.   You don't need no Dictator or Grand Satnding puppeteers!

Scientia
Scientia

Be silent, OSAbot. Keep your forked tongue behind your teeth. I did not come to this forum to bandy crooked words with a witless worm.

MarkStark
MarkStark

Surrender Kinky! No one is crazier than Hubbard. But I agree that Marty needs some help so I've written a little something that is better than an Internet posting, as informative as that "data" is.

What: Xenu PicnicWho’s Invited:  Neighbors and everyoneWhere: Marty’s Sector of the NeighborhoodWhen: Undetermined

Marty will welcome the assembled guests warmly, with a simple speech:

Friends, Romans, neighbors, OSA, lend me your spleens:

I have come here to Teegeeack from the implant station on Mars, covered in Body Thetan clusters that were blasted out of volcanoes 75 million years ago.I have come to bury David Miscavige, not to praise him.The evil that men do lives after them through trillions of lifetimes; The good is oft interred with their meat bodies. So let it be with Miscavige. The noble BegheHath told you f'n Miscavige was f'n ambitious:I’m just here to fish and boatEnjoy your  Xenu burgersTo LRH! Hip Hip Hurray!

Tom - whole story
Tom - whole story

So KINKY, listen up.  You and Rathbun are two sides of the same coin.  The sad thing about all of this is none of it is really about Scientology, it's about Power Quest.  You know why that is so obvious?

If the "Church of Scientology really cared about the "monster" Rathbun screwing up their poor lambs, they would not be chasing after and trying to destroy their own lambs!   (yeah yeah with Black Ops and Defamation and lies and tricks and stalking, the whole bit). 

Simple Logic.  Scientology would shepherd the flock in for EXTRA TLC and services. And prove the monster is a monster and they can deliver the goods ...which is what the Independent Movement seems to be clamoring for, right? So what's the problem? Give them the fun and Scientology they wanted. But No, KINKY, you are CANNIBALIZING yourself and your flock, shooting foot bullets and totally giving Rathbun the stage he wants to PROVE to the flock that he is right, and they are all being done in by you.

You are both the same coin.   How does Rathbun have the time to really look after and "audit" the Independent people?  He doesn't.  How can he be really providing Scientology services per the book?  Impossible.  He is on a campaign to break the monopoly.    That is all.    Maybe a noble goal, given that no spiritual practice should be a monopoly in case a sycho gets a hold of it.

MarkStark
MarkStark

Marty is telling his neighbors he moved there to "enjoy some of the fundamental virtues that drive humanity."

What the F does that mean?  Couldn't he just write that he wanted to enjoy fishing, the water, life's simple pleasures, good friends, [having a wife who won't file a KR on him, not being the thug for an evil dwarf]?

He writes in the inflated style of a Scientology brochure, the ones that mention "planetary salvage."

The puzzling thing is Marty speaks well, even on TV. He has a genuine, nice-guy presence, and seems fairly clear, logical and concise when he speaks.

Put him on the computer and he can't stop torturing the English language.

johnny d
johnny d

Bravo MarkStark Bravo !!!!

sizzle8
sizzle8

If the Office of Special Affairs would apply basic Scientology policy, they would realize that they should be investigating David Miscavige.

As Janet Reitman said, "Change or die".

Nick J.
Nick J.

Exactly, Sizzle8.  They are being idiots following Miscavige's tantrums to buckshot everyone...OSA is *driving people* away, to Rathbun and we are talking great people, artists, COOL people. They are attacking the very people they are supposed to be serving.

Deanblair06
Deanblair06

Mr. Tony Ortega you nailed it.  I was in the cult for 40 years and while I am no longer a Scientologist independent or otherwise I do know that David Miscavige has caused more harm to people than anyone in Scientology before him.  He is a very evil dude.

LocalSP1
LocalSP1

Marty finding out that Karma is a bitch.

MarkStark
MarkStark

The neighbors will be thrilled to know they have the Scientology II cult leader in the neighborhood, who is being chased by a bunch of Scientology I wackadoodles in camera hats.

Marty drove the prices of the houses in his immediate neighborhood up:

“House for Sale -- Rathbun view.” (Apostate view?)

They should have a Xenu party!

Regarding the schism in Scientology, I say cut the baby in half. Give half the cult to Marty. It is only fair. All the people he chased down and terrorized when he was the "enforcer." He deserves something for being a loyal officer. And Martyologists have more fun.

Just think what Marty could do with half a billion or so, and thousands more sycophants who think they were past-life Jesuses or Julius Caesars, or more bizarrely, think Marty is a good writer.

Just one more tragedy of what Scientology can do to a person’s mind.

Guest
Guest

 Exactly, I and and I'm sure other people love watching the OSA antics on the internet, it's like having advanced knowledge of a train-wreck when any Scientology-related articles are posted. It'd be cool to live near Marty and watch these same OSA dudes and their P.I.s performing their buffooneries IRL, the town where I live is quite boring.

Thetafair
Thetafair

Mark, why don't you try very very hard to pull you head out of your anus.

dagobarbz
dagobarbz

You quote Ron with that mouth?

Theresa Defino
Theresa Defino

I wonder why Rathbun thinks he's above the law, for all he did allegedly at Miscavige's behest, (and what he does now when it fits his agenda) yet Miscavage should be held accountable.

Scientiologists...gotta love `em. And he still is, don't forget. Still believes all the alien shit. 

Tom - whole story
Tom - whole story

Rathbun isn't doing this all for love of Scientology. He has personal bitterness and vendetta against Miscavige.  A lot of innocent people will be caught in the crossfire.   It ain't all about Scientology.

Carol
Carol

It is apparent that all of this is way above your head!

LeoRyan78
LeoRyan78

Not really, she pretty much calls it as regards Rathbun.  

Peeled Potatoe
Peeled Potatoe

Marty is up against a very destructive dramatization from a group with the sole intent to create introversion and soul stripping.The Church is really pulling it in these days. Imagine if the level of our communication,the internet and so on were around in the days of the" Finance Police" another great part of the Scientology legacy. Let all the truth be told!Marty is doing his amends and that is good for the soul!

Nick J.
Nick J.

It isn't just Marty Rathbun up against "the cult" ---  a lot of people are.  Hello!!

 Are the grand standers sticking up for the other people like Michael Fairman, Paul Haggis, Jason Beghe?  *** Samantha Domingo *** for God's sake,  Placido Domingo's daughter in law, mother to his grandchildren, is being smeared slandered and lied about in despicable ways big time on those lying Rathbun Impersonation  (or are they?!) blogs financed by the Spyintology Corporation.

Why aren't these "Lutheran ministers" sticking up for their "followers" who are getting it just as bad if not worse?    Or are the little people all fuel and looked down on as seems to be the Scientology Way. 

David Head of the Corp. and Marty R consider themselves the Players and Game Makers.  All others are disposable. Pawns.  Both sides.  

Show me a Scientologist who can have a healthy devoted loyal honest real heart to heart relationship and...I'll apologize. 

MarkStark
MarkStark

You spell potatoe, I spell potato. Dan Quayle spelled tomatoe, I spell tomato...

SFF
SFF

Honestly, I see Marty as more Clement VII than Martin Luther. 

There have been "independent Scientologists" since at least the early 1980, and they were harassed by the Church at least as much as Marty has been. Marty himself was involved in the lawsuits against David Mayo, who had been Hubbard's own auditor at one point.

The harassment against Marty is bad and demonstrates that the Church of Scientology doesn't take it's claims of supporting freedom of religion very seriously.

But I think some people give Marty too much credit.

SFF
SFF

For clarity that's Clement VII the first antipope in Avignon. I hadn't realized that another pope used that name later.

mjm
mjm

Rathbun & Rinder = FBI agents?

think about it, Rathbun joined in '78 after Operation Snow White...

they're posing as an "independent Scientologisst" to get info out of Scilons who are on their way out of leaving the cult. not that that's a bad thing....

Mark Miglio
Mark Miglio

mjm--- I never did like either of those guys. I like your hypotheses.

Guest
Guest

 Did they make you clean toilets with a toothbrush when they were your bosses, Terryeo?

1982
1982

Foolish or silly comment regarding Mike or Marty, but not crazy, there might be some truth to this ...according to Dane Tops' 2009 update covering infiltration of the Church.Crazy is possibly the whole historic Scientology picture, which is a staggering gripping story that blows my mind. Here is the link...

The link below, adds much to this, (particularly comments #15 & 18) where you find Dane Tops original 1982 Letter and Interview update. Required read, actually.

http://projectavalon.net/forum...

1982
1982

Foolish or silly comment mjm, but not crazy.

Crazy is possibly the truth, which is a staggering gripping story in itself. You can find a good dose of it in Dane Tops Letter.

The link below, adds much to this, (particularly comments #15 & 18)

With a direct link to said Letter in comment #14.

Highly recommended to EVERYONE.

http://projectavalon.net/forum...

Tom - whole story
Tom - whole story

Rathbun and Rinder may not be FBI agents but they would play the FBI as a card.  This is a power battle.  Rathbun made a lot of progress for Scientology when he was working under Miscavige and is bitter about no thanks or credit.  He has a personal vendetta against Miscavige, to bring him down and show him who really built up the "Church."   Make no mistake that is the driving force in all this --- otherwise he would go off and practice Scientology and look out for all the other people he's bringing along with him.

Richard C. Mongler
Richard C. Mongler

The FBI doesn't need Rathbun & Rinder to get info from ex Scientologists, because ex Scientologists come to the FBI themselves and that was before R & R went public.David Miscavige however is or used to be a CIA informant. He is on a list of CIA sources leaked by former assistant deputy director for covert operation Robert Trumbull Crowley.http://cryptome.org/cia-2619.h...

MarkStark
MarkStark

Pretty wild idea. Unfortunately, Rinder is from a Scientology family, and Rathbun just has a mess of a background that spells: join-a-cult. They waited too long to get out for that to be plausible.

However, Scientology is spy riddled. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Miscavige has an agent in Marty's group. Nothing would surprise me after reading what they did to Paulette Cooper.

Old OT7
Old OT7

And "spy riddled" in another sense.  There are 7, that I know of, scientologists who are bidding their time collecting data to use against Miscavage and his cult.  Five of them have been in for two decades or more and will never be caught.  One is at an extremely high level.  All have support outside the cult.  And...they REALLY know where all the bodies are buried.

MarkStark
MarkStark

Wow, I hope that's true! And yes, that seems plausible. Maybe the Reitman book will cause just the storm to crack the cult wide open.

Before the internet, cult members didn't have the presence of mind to do something like that, before they left. Now, something like that could happen, because someone could read Marty's blog, or whatever, and then just hang in there gathering the incriminating evidence that is needed.

Gary Lee-Nova
Gary Lee-Nova

Mjm; I'll recognize your suggestion as a real possibility. 

Your idea may have movie script potential. Perhaps someone should pitch it.

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