VIDEO: Scientology Spy Comes Clean to Riverside County Board of Supes (UPDATED)

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After the jump: Paulien Lombard takes on the supervisors for a second time.

Tuesday, a woman named Paulien Lombard appeared before the Riverside County, California Board of Supervisors to tell them what only a few years earlier she had kept secret: that she was a Scientologist who had worked as a spy for the church.

It's a dramatic moment, and even more so if you know the back story that led to Tuesday's surprising scene. Admitting that she'd spied for her church, Lombard says, was just the right thing to do.

"I knew that if I shut up, I would feel badly for the rest of my life," she told us yesterday on the telephone from California.

In September of 2008, Lombard was not only still a member of the church of Scientology, she was one of Orange County, California's most dedicated adherents. She had first joined the church in Amsterdam in 1978, and after 30 years, she was a person known by her peers for her dogged determination to interact with the public and sell Scientology's products.

"I was always out on the street, selling books. I was considered to be a person who was rough and tough. I could talk to anyone I met on the street. I was trusted," she says.

So trusted, she says, she was approached to help the church with a little problem: protesters at its desert headquarters near Hemet, California.

"In 2008, they showed at an event a video they had made about Anonymous. They scared the living daylight out of you about Anonymous. All these Scientologists were made to believe that protesters were terrorists," she says. "Somebody asked me, 'Can you do this?' Sure, I can do this. I want to fight terrorism. I didn't think twice about it."

Lombard says she was asked in part because as an OT V -- someone who had achieved high levels of training, including the infamous space opera elements of OT III -- she could remain calm if protesters started shouting something about church secrets.

"You know about the secret scriptures, like Xenu. if the protesters blurted that, you wouldn't get flustered," she says.

In particular, her help was needed regarding a protester who was giving the church headaches, a man who called himself "AnonOrange."

As Lombard pointed out to the Supervisors this week, they are well aware of AnonOrange, whose real name is Francois Choquette.

"I was at the monthly protest since March 2008," AnonOrange told me this morning by telephone. "My approach is to dress up in something funny. I try to ridicule them. I make serious speeches at the Board of Supervisors, I write letters, I meet with reporters. But then I do silly stuff."

The reason? "Scientology can't fight funny. Because they aren't funny. They're the most unfunny group in the world."

Scientology didn't appreciate AnonOrange's sense of humor. it wanted to gather more information about him -- like where he lived. And that involved a pretty elaborate mission which included luring AnonOrange to a supposed magazine interview that didn't happen, and then following him for 11 hours until he finally went home late at night.

The next morning, AnonOrange says, one of Scientology's private investigators showed up at his home to serve him with a cease-and-desist letter.

"A few days later, at 5:45 am, Paulien showed up with a guy. We called him 'Blue shirt guy'," he says.

"They asked me to go out there and stand with a sign outside of Mr. Choquette's house saying that he was a terrorist," Lombard says.

It has become a common OSA tactic: hand out leaflets or put up signs in the neighborhood where a protester lives, trying to convince neighbors that they're living next to someone suspicious or dangerous.

"It didn't last long. It was a closed community. Cops came. We had to leave," she says.

However, during the encounter Lombard got to know a neighbor, and procured his business card.

"I told OSA [the Office of Special Affairs, the church's intelligence wing that runs such spying operations]. They were excited." Lombard says she was asked to call the neighbor and pump him for information about AnonOrange.

"For the operation I was called Sarah White. I called this neighbor back, and then I was supposed to find out what was AnonOrange's source of income. I never found out much, but the whole intention of OSA was to get the juice on AnonOrange. His source of income, his plans," she says.

A month later, things got much more serious for AnonOrange. During a protest at Gold Base -- the Scientology HQ -- he was wrestled to the ground by Scientology security officers and then was arrested by Riverside County sheriff's deputies, as can be seen in this video:

Charges against the protesters were eventually dropped, and then AnonOrange filed a lawsuit against the church. (It was recently settled, and AnonOrange says he can't discuss the terms.)

Meanwhile, Lombard, the avid Scientologist who was ready to spy against protesters she saw as terrorists, was starting to have her doubts.

"My son found a story on the Internet, on Digg, a story that Mike Rinder had left Scientology. And that was it for us. We love Mike Rinder," she says.

"That was the initial thing, that made us think, let's look into this." She found the excellent 2009 St. Petersburg Times series, with denunciations of Scientology leader David Miscavige by former high-ranking officials such as Amy Scobee and Marty Rathbun. "Then we were thinking, holy crap, these people are telling the truth. They had no benefits from speaking out. The church is going to come after them, and yet they tell the truth," she says.

"At that point we were out." Over time, she says, her entire familyl left the church with her. "We tried to get some friends out. One of them spied on us for OSA," she says, noting the irony.

And now that she was out, she had to confront her own behavior while she was in.

"I felt really bad about what I'd done," she says, which is why she reached out to AnonOrange directly.

They both say she was prepared to testify on AnonOrange's behalf as his lawsuit made its way through the courts. Now that it's settled, Lombard says she was ready to go public with what she knew.

And that's why, this week, she stepped up to a podium to address the county's Board of Supervisors, who have been involved in ongoing disputes over protests at the Scientology Headquarters. One supervisor, Jeff Stone, has been especially sympathetic to the church, and has denounced Anonymous as a hate group. (He also proposed dividing California in two in order to create a 51st state, but that's another matter.)

She says she plans to provide more information to the Board, and wants to address Supervisor Stone directly.

But for now, she knows that she's put a big target on her back by speaking out.

"When I left yesterday to the Board of Supervisors, a private investigator took a picture of me and my daughter," she says. "OSA always wants to be first with the information."


[Update: Paulien contacted me to point out that I'd heard her wrong on that last quote. She was photographed as she left her home to go to the Board of Supervisors chamber, not after she gave her speech to the Supes.]

UPDATE: Paulien makes her follow-up appearance and takes on Jeff Stone directly.


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The Larry Wollersheim Saga -- Scientology Finally Pays For Its Fraud
The Tory Bezazian (Christman) Story -- How the Internet Saved A Scientologist From Herself
The Jason Beghe Defection -- A Scientology Celebrity Goes Rogue
The Robert Cipriano Case -- A Hellacious Example of Fair Game
The Paul Haggis Ultimatum -- The 'Crash' Director Tells Scientology to Shove It
The Marc Headley Escape -- 'Tom Cruise Told Me to Talk to a Bottle'
The Aaron Saxton Accusation -- Australia turns up the heat on Scientology
The Jefferson Hawkins Stipulation -- Scientology's former PR genius comes clean
The Daniel Montalvo Double-Cross -- Scientology lures a young defector into a trap
A Church Myth Debunked -- Scientology and Proposition 8
Daniel Montalvo Strikes Back -- Scientology Hit with Stunning Child-Labor Lawsuits
When Scientologists Attack -- The Marty Rathbun Intimidation
A Scientologist Excommunicated -- The Michael Fairman SP Declaration
The Richard Leiby Operation -- Investigating a reporter's divorce to shut him up
The Hugh Urban Investigation -- An academic takes a harsh look at Scientology's past
Giovanni Ribisi as David Koresh -- A precedent for a Scientology-Branch Davidian link
Janet Reitman's Inside Scientology -- A masterful telling of Scientology's history
The Western Spy Network Revealed? -- Marty Rathbun ups the ante on David Miscavige
Scientology's Enemies List -- Are You On It?
Inside Inside Scientology -- An interview with author Janet Reitman
Scientology and the Nation of Islam -- Holy Doctrinal Mashup, Batman!
Scientologists -- How Many of Them Are There, Anyway?
Roger Weller's Wild Ride -- Scientology When it was Hip
The Marc Headley Infiltration -- A Scientology Spying Operation Revealed
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bulldog
bulldog

Wow what a brave woman! I too thought at one time anonymous was a terrorist group, but changed my mind after much research. I now actually want to join them in the fight! Kudos again to this woman, may she continue to fight for what's right! I admire her tremendously!

Cllywelyn
Cllywelyn

Shes very credible. They will have a hard time destroying that. So happy for her!

subgenius
subgenius

What Scientology has done and is doing is a clear violation of this Federal statute, in case anyone in government cares: UNITED STATES CODE 

TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE PART I - CRIMES CHAPTER 13 - CIVIL RIGHTS 

§ 241. Conspiracyagainst rights

If two or more personsconspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidateany inhabitant of any State, Territory, orDistrict in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured tohim by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of hishaving so exercised the same…they shall be fined not more than $10,000 orimprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results, they shallbe subject to imprisonment for any term of years or for life.

Paul Jay Salerno
Paul Jay Salerno

Hey Hobson hows the support from the Indy's coming on this thread. L Ron Hubbard was a racist and a pedophile and your leader Pope Rathbun is worse. Where ever you are Lisa McPherson I for one am sorry.

Rumpelstiltskin
Rumpelstiltskin

It's no surprise the resident pro-scientologist hasn't posted. Maybe he knew Pauline and if he/they find out she not only blew but spoke up, they might blow from the cult too

TruthRevealed
TruthRevealed

Thank you Paulien for your bravery and honesty. Thanks for Village Voice for reporting this.  Shame on the Church of Scientology (David Miscavige) for violating the creed of Scientology and everything that the subject stands for.  The church of scientolog is DEAD! But the subject (Scientology) will never die!

Mortimer
Mortimer

This story reminds me of another  victim of Scientologyharassment at Gold base. Howard Keith Henson (born 1942) is anAmerican electrical engineer and writer.

Henson has become one of the focalpoints of the ongoing struggle between the Church of Scientology andits critics, often referred to as Scientology versus the Internet.Henson entered the Scientology conflict when it was at its mostheated, in the mid-1990s. In 1996, many of Scientology's secretwritings were released onto the Internet, and the Church ofScientology embarked on a massive worldwide campaign to keep themfrom being spread to the general public. Henson examined thesewritings, entitled New Era Dianetics (NOTS), and from his examinationof these secret documents, claimed that Scientology was committingmedical fraud. The NOTS documents, he said, contained detailedinstructions for the treatment of physical ailments and illnessesthrough the use of Scientology practices. A Supreme Court decision in1971 had declared that Scientology's writings were meant for "purelyspiritual" purposes, and all Scientology books published sincethen have included disclaimers stating that Scientology's E-meterdevice "does nothing" and does not cure any physicalailments. The NOTS procedures, Henson claimed, were a violation ofthis decision. To prove his claim, Henson posted two pages from theNOTS documents onto the Usenet newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.

The Church of Scientology immediatelyinitiated legal action, but Henson did not retract his claims. He wasserved with a lawsuit by the church's legal arm, the ReligiousTechnology Center, (RTC). Henson defended himself. After a lengthycourt battle involving massive amounts of paperwork, Henson was foundguilty of copyright infringement. He was ordered to pay $75,000 infines. Henson declared bankruptcy in response to the judgment. Hensonbegan protesting Scientology regularly, standing outside ofScientology's Gold Base, with a picket sign. The organization soughtto obtain a restraining order, which failed.

As a result of this conflict, Hensonwas charged with three misdemeanors under California Law: makingcriminal threats (California Penal Code section 422), attempting tomake criminal threats (California Penal Code section 422, chargedpursuant to Penal Code 664, the "general attempt" statute),and threatening to interfere with freedom to enjoy a constitutionalprivilege. Sheriff’s Detective Tony Greer, Riverside County leadinvestigator, said: "In reviewing all of the Internet postings Idid not see any direct threat of violence towards the church or anypersonnel of the church."

The jury verdict of the trial resultedin Henson being convicted of one of the three charges: "interferingwith a religion." This misdemeanor charge carried a prison termof six months. On the other two charges, the jury did not agree. KenHoden, the general manager of Golden Era Productions (the Church ofScientology's film production facility), claimed that Scientology'sallegations against Henson had nothing to do with Scientology's FairGame policy, and that no such policy existed

Henson stated his belief that if hewent to prison, his life would be placed in jeopardy.[30] Rather thanserve his sentence, Henson chose to enter Canada and apply forpolitical asylum. Henson lived quietly in Brantford for three yearswhile he awaited the decision. His request was ultimately denied and,in 2005, he was ordered to present himself for deportation andtransfer to US authorities. Instead, Henson fled to the United Statesand later presented himself to the Canadian consulate in Detroit. Hethen settled in Prescott, Arizona where he remained for two yearsuntil his arrest in 2007 by Arizona authorities.[31]

The Electronic Frontier Foundation, aswell as Henson's supporters on the USENET newsgroupalt.religion.scientology, say that his trial was biased, unfair and amockery of justice.[Need quotation to verify] Henson was prohibitedby the trial judge, for example, from arguing that copying documentsfor the purpose of criticism is fair use.[32] Henson's location as ofFebruary 3, 2007 was the Yavapai Detention Center in Prescott,Arizona, awaiting possible extradition to Riverside County,California. At the "initial appearance" hearing on February5, 2007, Henson stated through counsel[33][34] that he was fightingextradition and requested release.

Judge Lindberg set a court date forMarch 5, 2007 in the Prescott Justice Court, and fixed the securityfor release at $7,500 cash or bond, with standard conditions.Henson's release on bond was secured.[35] In spite of thesedistractions, Henson finished a space elevator presentation for aEuropean Space Agency conference. The paper was presented by proxy onFebruary 28, 2007.[4]

The extradition hearing for Henson waspostponed to May 8, 2007, at the request of Henson's attorney and theCounty attorney.[36] At his release from jail, Henson was handedpaper work from Riverside County, including a warrant from September15, 2000. At the May 8, 2007 hearing, Henson was presented withan arrest warrant, and returned to jail. In 2007, Henson wasjailed in Riverside, California for "using threats of force tointerfere with another's exercise of civil rights".[40] He wasreleased in early September 2007.

JustCallMeMary
JustCallMeMary

This woman, this video, this blog and this article are so powerful that the Church of Scientology has resorted to taking out a special Google News Search Ad yesterday which appears right above the link to this article when doing a google news search keyword Scientology. ( I took out the hyperlinks so this post would go through) This is what I seeOfficial Church of Scientology: Beliefs & Practices, Books, L. Ron ..scientology . org/ - Cached SimilarLearn more about the Scientology religion, its beliefs & practices, founder L. Ron Hubbard, Dianetics and his books, materials and lectures.Scientology Beliefs & Practices - Video Channel - Church Locator - David Miscavige All results for scientology VIDEO: Scientology Spy Comes Clean to Riverside County Board of Supes?Village Voice (blog) - Tony Ortega - 11 hours agoDesperate measures for desperate people. Bravo Paulien. Bravo Francois. Bravo Village Voice for picking up this article. Keep up the terrific work

JustCallMeMary
JustCallMeMary

This woman, this video, this blog and this article are so powerful that the Church of Scientology has resorted to taking out a special Google News Search Ad yesterday which appears right above the link to this article when doing a google news search keyword Scientology. ( I took out the hyperlinks so this post would go through) This is what I seeOfficial Church of Scientology: Beliefs & Practices, Books, L. Ron ..scientology.org/ - Cached SimilarLearn more about the Scientology religion, its beliefs & practices, founder L. Ron Hubbard, Dianetics and his books, materials and lectures.Scientology Beliefs & Practices - Video Channel - Church Locator - David Miscavige All results for scientology VIDEO: Scientology Spy Comes Clean to Riverside County Board of Supes?Village Voice (blog) - Tony Ortega - 11 hours ago

Desperate measures for desperate people. Bravo Paulien. Bravo Francois. Keep up the terrific work.

DMSTCC
DMSTCC

I was kind of hoping for more comments, but, thevideos and article speak louder than a million "OMG"s orthe like. Both videos deserve to go viral.

 

I would have loved to see Jeff Stone's reaction whenPaulien addressed him personally. Tony, can you ask her about this?

JustCallMeMary
JustCallMeMary

This woman, this video, this blog and this article are so powerful that the Church of Scientology has resorted to taking out a special Google News Search Ad today which appears right above the link to this article when doing a google news search keyword Scientology. ( I took out the hyperlinks so this post would go through) This is what I see Official Church of Scientology: Beliefs & Practices, Books, L. Ron ..scientology.org/ - Cached SimilarLearn more about the Scientology religion, its beliefs & practices, founder L. Ron Hubbard, Dianetics and his books, materials and lectures.Scientology Beliefs & Practices - Video Channel - Church Locator - David Miscavige All results for scientology »VIDEO: Scientology Spy Comes Clean to Riverside County Board of Supes‎Village Voice (blog) - Tony Ortega - 11 hours ago

Desperate measures for desperate people. Bravo Paulien. Bravo Francois. Keep up the terrific work.

Heather Grace
Heather Grace

I really respect how Paulien has done what she can to make things right. She seems like a terrific person. It's a reminder (should anyone need one) that many or most scientologists are actually terrific people. But they've been lied to and indoctrinated. Given the chance, and if they're willing to consider all the facts, they may choose not to perpetuate the abuses of the Church of Scientology and David Miscavige.

We do not protest the individual scientologists, nor their right to be scientologists. Just the fraud and abuses.

Thanks, Paulien.

Doug Korthof
Doug Korthof

Thanks to Francois -- and to all the escapees from Scientology. This so-called church is a VERY dangerous group.  They have their own prisons and landing fields, their suborned politicians and spies in high places: the evil needs to be rooted out and, if it's a church, left to preach, not violate other people's civil and human rights.

Joshua
Joshua

Another example of the antidemocratic, infiltrative, and generally nasty nature of scientology.  Germany has it right on this one- scientology is not a friend of any democracy..... they will try to take over.  

kyote
kyote

Once again, thanks so much for posting this, Tony & Village Voice!

Amy Scobee
Amy Scobee

Paulien - bless you for exposing the truth. 

CultWatch
CultWatch

It's great to hear Paulien speaking out so eloquently.  It's also sad to know that she will undoubtably suffer attempts at harrassment and character assasination from this so-called "church".  Fortunately she's strong and knows how these acts are carried out.  The best defense is to document and expose scientology's Fair Game actions as they occur.  More than anything else, scientology's greatest fear is public exposure of it's true nature.

With the exception of the current chairman, Mr. Buster, the Riverside County Board, and in particular councilman Stone can be expected to do very little exept cover their own eyes, ears and mouths when being confronted with the truths about the camp situated in their midst.  My hope is that Paulien can find a more receptive audience, perhaps with the State Attorney General.

If only the likes of Marty Rathbun and Mike Rinder shared Pauliens courage,

Pod
Pod

Thank you, Tony, for bringing this to Village Voice. Paulien, from the bottom of my heart, thank you, and your family so very much. There are tens of thousands of people “outside” that you can find on the internet who have your back. It would be best if this got vast media coverage, not only for your family protection, but for goodwill and warning to anyone considering any involvement with this corporate entity of spirits for sale. Paulien is a rare brave bird. This is what the millions of $$ that Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Nancy Cartwright (Bart voice), Lisa Presley, et al, this is where the money goes. The IAS $, the Super Power $$, the “human rights” front groups $, it’s a lie, a scam. This is where their money really goes. This, the Squirrel Busters insane harrassment, the bulk going to the scientology lawyers and private investigators, and of course, the leader’s “special needs”.Millions more for cases they can’t win despite their religious cloak, to pay off settlements, with gag orders. Scientology cannot afford to ever have a Trial by Jury, to have evidence of their wrongdoing available for public record. They would lose their special deal with IRS, their religious cloak that hold authorities at bay, if there was enough Court evidence of crimes.Again, thank you, Paulien. I applaud your courage and your reaching out to help others now is appreciated. 

TheGuest
TheGuest

Transcript of Paulein Lombard, 7/26/2011 Riverside Co, Calif, BOS meeting

“Good morning, Board of Supervisors. Thank you for letting me speak here today.My name is Paulein Lombard. I have been a Scientologists for 30 years. In June of 2009 when the official spokesperson of the church, Tommy Davis, announced that 50 instances of violence had occurred on 22 members of the staff here in Hemet, I decided to withdraw my support to this organization.However, in September of 2008 I was still a trusted member and I was asked by the Office of Special Affairs in Orange County, which is the intelligence arm of Scientology, they, they monitor what information about Scientology goes out to the members and to the world, and I was asked to assist with the arrest of Mr. Francois Choquette who I’m sure you are all familiar with.And I was asked to go out to his home, which I did. I was, actually, as part of the information control that the church runs on their members I was indoctrinated to believe that all protestors were terrorists. That is the line they use to members to make it understandable that there even are protestors.Okay, so I was, I was then asked to go to his house, which I did, and I stood in front of his house with a sign saying that he was a terrorist, that , this was the sign made by, by Scientology in Orange County.And the day before, two members of Orange, of the Orange County organization, had gone to his neighborhood to spread leaflets throughout the neighborhood saying that Mr. Choquette was a terrorist. Scientology likes to isolate their critics from family members, neighbors and friends and they do it this way.As part of this operation I was also asked to find out from the neighbor of Mr. Choquette, about [?] Mr. Choquette’s source of income. Scientology likes to know this because they like to go to the employer of the critic to discredit the critic or spread lies or both. In the case of the critic being self-employed they will go and contact the clients of the critic to discredit him, to discredit the critic.Upon my return to the organization I was also informed, if anybody were to ask me me who set me up to do this, I should tell them that it was on my behalf, I, I myself decided to do this, not the church. The church will lie and they’ll set others up to lie in order to give themselves a favorable image.I know, Mr. Stone, you have some friends that are Scientologists. I see [?] know them personally. They used to be my friends. They have since disconnected from me. They are not allowed to talk to me anymore, okay? This is all part of the information control that is going on in the church.Church members are not allowed to research the history of Scientology online. If they do, they, there are severe repercussions. I strongly suggest you inform yourself about Scientology.”[Board member: “Thanks, Miss Lombard, and your time’s elapsed.”]“I have one last sentence to make. Please read the book of Janet Reitman. It’s called ‘Inside Scientology’. Thank you for your time.”“Good morning, Board of Supervisors. Thank you for letting me speak here today.My name is Paulein Lombard. I have been a Scientologists for 30 years. In June of 2009 when the official spokesperson of the church, Tommy Davis, announced that 50 instances of violence had occurred on 22 members of the staff here in Hemet, I decided to withdraw my support to this organization.However, in September of 2008 I was still a trusted member and I was asked by the Office of Special Affairs in Orange County, which is the intelligence arm of Scientology, they, they monitor what information about Scientology goes out to the members and to the world, and I was asked to assist with the arrest of Mr. Francois Choquette who I’m sure you are all familiar with.And I was asked to go out to his home, which I did. I was, actually, as part of the information control that the church runs on their members I was indoctrinated to believe that all protestors were terrorists. That is the line they use to members to make it understandable that there even are protestors.Okay, so I was, I was then asked to go to his house, which I did, and I stood in front of his house with a sign saying that he was a terrorist, that , this was the sign made by, by Scientology in Orange County.And the day before, two members of Orange, of the Orange County organization, had gone to his neighborhood to spread leaflets throughout the neighborhood saying that Mr. Choquette was a terrorist. Scientology likes to isolate their critics from family members, neighbors and friends and they do it this way.As part of this operation I was also asked to find out from the neighbor of Mr. Choquette, about [?] Mr. Choquette’s source of income. Scientology likes to know this because they like to go to the employer of the critic to discredit the critic or spread lies or both. In the case of the critic being self-employed they will go and contact the clients of the critic to discredit him, to discredit the critic.Upon my return to the organization I was also informed, if anybody were to ask me me who set me up to do this, I should tell them that it was on my behalf, I, I myself decided to do this, not the church. The church will lie and they’ll set others up to lie in order to give themselves a favorable image.I know, Mr. Stone, you have some friends that are Scientologists. I see [?] know them personally. They used to be my friends. They have since disconnected from me. They are not allowed to talk to me anymore, okay? This is all part of the information control that is going on in the church.Church members are not allowed to research the history of Scientology online. If they do, they, there are severe repercussions. I strongly suggest you inform yourself about Scientology.”[Board member: “Thanks, Miss Lombard, and your time’s elapsed.”]“I have one last sentence to make. Please read the book of Janet Reitman. It’s called ‘Inside Scientology’. Thank you for your time.”

MarkStark
MarkStark

Paulien saying that she heard about the beatings from Tommy Davis, and found out the information that Rinder had left from the Internet (and her son) and then started seriously questioning, and left is encouraging.  Her statement is exceptionally well-spoken and credible.

On the other hand, as the cult crumbles into a hard core, it is unsettling to know that members are easily convinced protesters are "terrorists," even one like Francois who does so much joking. Is there no distinction in their minds between a terrorist who plots to kill many innocent people, and someone holding a sign and shouting? After all, Scientologists have done the same thing at CCHR protests outside a "psych conference."

How about a hacker disrupting the Scientology website for a few hours, compared to someone bombing a building?

The tackling of Francois and treatment of Barb are appalling, combined with the doomsday background music meant to drown out protesters.

TheGuest
TheGuest

The moment I finished looking at this video the other day I hoped this one would be picked up by AP eventually.  This is the real face of Scientology.  This is all you need to know about Scientology.   This is why the U.S. Attorney General, FBI,  IRS, and ACLU need to halt the abuses, crimes, economic fraud, and human rights violation.

Schockenawd
Schockenawd

That second video is particularly nice.  LRH would be very proud.  He was so right: "the law CAN be used very easily to harass..."  It would be interesting to chronicle the various times when law enforcement authorities have unwittingly assisted Scientology in promoting its harassment agenda.  Who remembers Dennis Ehrlich and the raid on his house, with officers of the law guiding Scn and its lawyers through his home, room by room, so the church could confiscate his hard drive, among other things?  And the beat goes on...

DMSTCC
DMSTCC

I was also hoping that the folks on Marty's blogwould say that they are inspired enough to do what Paulien hasdone, but......NOTHING!!!

TheGuest
TheGuest

Scientology has no one left to lie to about anyone or anything.  The very few remaining public scientologists have witnessed friends, family members, business associates, and fellow sci members "disappear, vanish" overnight, or with a stroke of OSA's magic wand, lifelong champions and model patrons become evil little devils that will melt your brain if you reach out and touch.

As to Hemet, Riverside board and politicians,  the politicians might not vett like they should, but OSA does down to tiny, itsy bitsy nit pickin' details.  Sci International is there because they Knew they could count on govt reps like Jeff Stone to look the other way while members were deprived of basic human rights,  for the right price. 

candace6
candace6

"Upon my return to the organization I was also informed, if anybody were to ask me me who set me up to do this, I should tell them that it was on my behalf, I, I myself decided to do this, not the church"That is a very important point, and a major reason why the "church" has been able to get away with so much over the years.  The most obvious example is the Squirrel Busters, whom we are to believe are doing this all on their own, rather than being ordered by Miscavige to stalk and terrorize.  Another example is Operation Snow White; Scientologists to this day deny Hubbard knew anything about that.  Patently absurd of course, but those still in the cult absolutely believe there are rogue Scientologists committing these acts rather than their 'clean' and 'ethical' "church".

MarkStark
MarkStark

The best line is the last one. Politicians need to inform themselves about the group they may find themselves in bed with, like Jeff Stone. It is not enough to just evaluate information on both sides without understanding the history and policies of this organization.

dagobarbz
dagobarbz

One ex-member who raided with us in San Diego said she was told that we were dangerous people who would murder them if given the opportunity. This is reinforced by having staff escort members to their cars during big events at the org.

The truth is so much less interesting; human rights and free speech activists dancing to music and waving signs outside.

TheGuest
TheGuest

This has happened over and over for 60 years.  You can find anything you want on Google.  It's all there.

TheGuest
TheGuest

I just did a quick check, Mark, and yes, the Internetz has been around a long time now and is still working, so information is available.  Also,  as to U.S. Politicians, yes,  I just checked all the news channels and they are still incompetent, irresponsible goofballs that love their portfolios more than their constituents, or so it seems.

Politicians are paid to vett any thing and person they connect up with for any reason.  And for God's sake, any politician who does not know what scientolgy is and how it operates is, well, an incompetent, irresponsible goofball.  I just saw an article about the Mayor Washington, DC inviting DC org head, Sue Taylor, in for an interfaith council.  Sue Taylor, Belotte,  Sylvia Stanard,  these names are infamous,  Infamous!, going back to the sci Operation Snow White, one of major infiltrations of U.S. govt and raided by FBI.

What is the Mayor of DC thinking?  lol  If anyone knows this Mayor,  should really invite him to Tony's article and video today.  Does he not realize that OSA will have a dossier on Him?! 

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