A Scientologist's Open Letter to the Village Voice and its Readers

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Last week, after we revealed the beginning of our "Top 25 People Crippling Scientology" countdown, we received an e-mail from Mark Miglio, who for weeks has been providing some of the best pro-Scientology material in our comments section.

Mark has good-naturedly sparred with the many critics of the church who read and respond to our articles. But now he was reaching out to me directly with a lengthy appeal.

I responded by asking him to give me permission to publish his manifesto. Better to have it reach as many people as possible, I figured. He added to it and agreed to have me post it here.

And here's the rather glaring disclaimer I have to put on it: I don't know Miglio personally, and while I have evidence of a Mark Miglio's involvement in Scientology (see below), I can't know for sure that the person who sent me this message is that Miglio or that he's not an elaborate troll. Still, I think there's value in considering the words in this pro-Scientology appeal, and I look forward to the reception it gets from our readers. -- Ed.


Tony, I think you are good guy, but your commentators feed you exaggerated or false "facts" that paint a horrible picture of my church.

It is my opinion that facts can be used to destroy truths. Any great man can probably be "wiped out" by the facts that repressive people use to discredit him. "Truth" does not properly represent real truths when it uses facts to paint false pictures.

When facts are used to create "black" propaganda, those facts become an enemy of society.

I feel that news publications must use their abilities to give ordinary people the information they need without giving the "bad guys" the power to destroy the "good guys". In other words, media people must investigate all the rumors and controversial statements fed to them with an effort to see that those "facts" paint a true image of the subject. The ethical, moral, and fair thing to do is to reject facts, rumor, and controversial factoids, unless the image painted is in the public interest.

Probably all of us need to take more responsibility for this kind of carelessness. I know that, in the past, I too had a lot of fun passing along discrediting facts about people that I considered my enemies. Now as a Scientologist, I know that no one is actually an enemy; people do what they do because of the false data and the emotional "baggage" they carry.

I would ask you to please consider that Scientology is not your typical investigative situation. It requires a lot of work. May I say that you are in a well-admired position for reporting on an organization that is trying to handle the long-neglected negative emotional charges of many, many lifetimes -- and that this will also explain why our major-service donations requests are costly as they are -- not counting the free and low cost services. Our classroom training, our corrections and supervision, and international promotions are a big, complicated job that requires a lot of staff and receives no or little government, foundation, and academic contributions. The Scientology technology comprises of all new concepts and a new way of doing things that enrage today's vast vested interests. Promoting our new ideas is difficult -- nothing quite like this has ever been done. It is all very costly and time consuming. It is not like, something that is easy to do; as say, the relatively easy task of hitting a button of an automatic production machine.

There are many mental and emotional things to handle which span many lifetimes.

I wish we could handle everything with just the "Purification Program" (drug detoxification), the "Grades" (relatively low-level services) and the "Clearing Course" (high-level services) but all of our services, each one of them, are very needed and have their own unique benefits for which our people are very happy to make a donation.

A small number of students take advantage of our very unique, and unexpected, refund policy; which can be explained by certain students that are intellectually unable to -- or have doubts about -- ever becoming a good auditor. The "auditor" is the person that handles the pain of the subconscious mind, and the debilitating experiences of past lifetimes.

These emotional charges of many, many lifetimes also illuminate why people exaggerate, or lie, about their experiences in the church. The past-life spiritual events that have happened to people is not a joke -- these events are HOT, painful, and very occluded. When we kick out the unrepentant liars from the church (or they leave before we can kick them out) all sorts of past-life painful emotional charges pop up, such as: "AN--INJUSTICE--HAS--BEEN--DONE--TO--ME !!! ".

It is because of the past life pain that a person needs to approach our auditing in what could be called "baby steps", but actually all of these steps are of major significance. People sometimes say to me, "Why not just release the OT levels now?" (The OT levels are the premium advanced services.) But the things that happened before, in past lives, could happen again and could likely, greatly upset the person, and focus their attention on the distant past, rather than live their current life in present time and in a productive and happy way.

Other considerations:

Definition: CLEARS. Clears are people who no longer have the negative affects of their OWN subconscious mind.

Many Clears, and all OT's (except to a very small degree) audit themselves. You have to be a good auditor. It's a technical thing that requires skill. Your commentators can be seen by us to be BAD auditors, and then too, after auditing themselves badly, they do not do the honorable thing and admit that they have had hid their bad auditing from the "case supervisor" -- the only person who could help them out of their self-inflicted mess.

Additionally, some small number of people don't get good results because they are unable to "open up" to the auditor -- one cannot make any spiritual progress by being withdrawn from the very person that one has been asked to help them.

Or they have they "blindness effect" (my words) -- they do not see anything about themselves that they feel really needs to improve or change significantly.

Or they are repressive people, or what we call "suppressive" people, who "KNOW" that other ordinary people -- especially Scientologists -- are sure to harm them eventually and in one way or another; and along with that, they think that anyone would be a fool to leave oneself open to harm by revealing anything of much significance to any auditor.

Sure, Scientologists make mistakes and not all Clears and OT's have equal abilities, skills, desires, aims, and purposes, but when we are examined carefully you will discover us to be marvelous in one way or another.

I was in the Sea Org and I was at even at "Int." (the international executive center) and I NEVER saw anyone abused. Thank God, I never had to work for Marty Rathbun, or Mike Rinder, (high-level Scientology traitors who physically abused senior Scientology staff members). Also, I was in the RPF (a voluntary program to make amends) -- I was not abused -- I liked the RPF. I will return to the SO as soon as I handle certain family matters.

STATISTICS: We are already expanding in holdings, wealth, and yes, members, too; and these stats include people associated with us but do not call themselves Scientologists -- they go by the name of other religions.

Sure, we have the understandable difficulties of social and environmental factors, like the hidden identities of the Anonymous Anti-Scientology haters, but we are winning the admiration of the world for what we have done for 61 years. I have no desire or need to exaggerate or lie -- like I said we are doing well.

I have learned, conclusively, that liars always suffer within a fair amount of time. Only fools lie. There are solutions for doing things without lying -- always. It is dumb and not ethical. The end does not justify the means.

I met DM (our senior exec). I like him, and I see the good things that he has done.
-- Mark Miglio

Thank you, Mark. As I mentioned above, there is a record of a Mark Miglio being involved in Scientology as early as 1989 -- see this completions record at the excellent "The Truth About Scientology" website. I will repeat that I have no confirmation that the person who sent me this manifesto is the Miglio reflected in those records or is someone who actually is in the church at all. As usual, my recent calls for official statements from Scientology have not been returned. -- T.O.



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Tony Ortega is the editor-in-chief of The Village Voice. Since 1995, he's been writing about Scientology at several publications. Among his other stories about L. Ron Hubbard's organization:

The Larry Wollersheim Saga -- Scientology Finally Pays For Its Fraud
The Tory Bezazian (Christman) Story -- How the Internet Saved A Scientologist From Herself
The Jason Beghe Defection -- A Scientology Celebrity Goes Rogue
The Robert Cipriano Case -- A Hellacious Example of Fair Game
The Paul Haggis Ultimatum -- The 'Crash' Director Tells Scientology to Shove It
The Marc Headley Escape -- 'Tom Cruise Told Me to Talk to a Bottle'
The Aaron Saxton Accusation -- Australia turns up the heat on Scientology
The Jefferson Hawkins Stipulation -- Scientology's former PR genius comes clean
The Daniel Montalvo Double-Cross -- Scientology lures a young defector into a trap
A Church Myth Debunked -- Scientology and Proposition 8
Daniel Montalvo Strikes Back -- Scientology Hit with Stunning Child-Labor Lawsuits
When Scientologists Attack -- The Marty Rathbun Intimidation
A Scientologist Excommunicated -- The Michael Fairman SP Declaration
The Richard Leiby Operation -- Investigating a reporter's divorce to shut him up
The Hugh Urban Investigation -- An academic takes a harsh look at Scientology's past
Giovanni Ribisi as David Koresh -- A precedent for a Scientology-Branch Davidian link
Janet Reitman's Inside Scientology -- A masterful telling of Scientology's history
The Western Spy Network Revealed? -- Marty Rathbun ups the ante on David Miscavige
Scientology's Enemies List -- Are You On It?
Inside Inside Scientology -- An interview with author Janet Reitman
Scientology and the Nation of Islam -- Holy Doctrinal Mashup, Batman!
Scientologists -- How Many of Them Are There, Anyway?
Roger Weller's Wild Ride -- Scientology When it was Hip
The Marc Headley Infiltration -- A Scientology Spying Operation Revealed
Placido Domingo Jr: Scientology's Retaliation is "Scary and Pathetic"
An Interview with Nancy Many, Former Scientology Spy
The Paulien Lombard Confession -- A Scientology Spy Comes Clean
The Deputy Benjamin Ring Hard Sell -- Scientology wants your 401K
The Top 25 People Crippling Scientology
The Squirrel Busters Busted -- Unmasking the Scientology PI in Charge


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How ironic - the "blindness effect" (his words).

"Also, I was in the RPF.... I liked the RPF." It almost sounds like he's reviewing a Ramada Inn or something. Wonder what mest work needed doing for this ardent follower to be put in such a position. Maybe he volunteered? 

With all the Idle Orgs out there needing renovations, I shudder to think of the number of Sea Org members in the RPF's on all the conts.

And he asserts that "only fools lie"?!  Immediately upon reading that, it was impossible not to think of a certain self-appointed 'Commodore'. 

All in all, a perfect example of the metaphor: ""he swallowed it - hook, line and sinker."

Redhead47uk
Redhead47uk

Sounds to me like glorified propertys developed for the rich, you cannot  reach the kingdom of heaven by payment, its only through grace you are saved, and that is a gift given freely. 

Redhead47uk
Redhead47uk

Anyone heard of Dr Winter, who was an associate of Hubbard,very interesting reading on his findings

Rachuk
Rachuk

We are a collective , our name is borge,  we will asimulate you, get with the programme.  

Robert Robinson
Robert Robinson

OK.  So I was going to go on a big rant here and pick apart everything Mark Miglio had to say.  Then I saw the part about being and ex- SO, and planning to go back in.  It appears to me that he is probably in lower conditions and trying to work his way out by "striking an effective blow to the enemy".

Redhead47uk
Redhead47uk

The UNTOUCHABLES OR ELSE?.  Id like to see Scientologists open their doors , be transparent in  their dealings.  Instead of the dark and shady,  ohh so wonderful with words, and finding loop holes in the law, to do their dirty dealings, real side of SCs

I ADMIRE  all those that have spoken out against the organisation, whether it be lawyers, ex sci , film stars, and the rest, who have exposed it for what it truly appears to be.

Get your tin cans out everyone , tell everyone your unmost secret inner secrets, and let scientology blackmail you for the rest of your life, and tell you that you are doing human kind a service.While lining the pockets and empowering dangerous people, who manipulate, degrade, humiliate,ruin, those who Dare to disagree with its teachings or ethics.

Shame on the organisation, on the highly unethical teachings, its not something to be proud of.I pray for you all, especially David , yes David the man at the top who is so proud, arrogant, and full of himself. You know what they say about falling from a great height, and if he toppled , how great would that fall be.

I can understand that it would be very scary for some to come out of the organisation after being in for so many years.  That in itself is a very brave thing to do, as the world seems a hostile enviroment when a person has been ,institutionalized, and has truly believed something to be right and good.  This im sure the SCs know, and play upon.  Ohh and not forgeting everything a person puts into it , Your whole life energys and money.

 Everyone has a concience, if you go against your concience enough times  even on the say so of someone else.  Your concience is seered, it wont work properly and you become colder.  It appears that people are given orders against their concience , they inturn give orders, this then gives the feeling of Power, and so on.  Its a vicious circle.

I would appeal to the conciences , those that Havnt reached the stage: *Where  their  concience-( no longer affects their moral capacity or judgement*)

There are many people with good intention, good intention is not enough. Actions speak louder than words.

I am not a phyciatrist. im just a normal Jo Blogg member of the public.  Concerned for the welfare of  those Dupped into theBidding of Scientology and its false doctrines.

Opps i hope i did not put too many dots , commers or little i  in this comment , i sure wouldnt want to write it out again :)

Redhead47uk
Redhead47uk

All i can hear is some delutional, indoctrunated, person who i genuinely feel very sorry for, or on the otherhand is some person with evil intent.  It amazes me that these people especially those at the top, have not been properly investigated. It appears to me that goverment officials could well be implicated, or have associations within this so called church. A church which is run like a Mafia, only worse, because of its claims. It brainwashes, blackmails,uses child slavery, violence, to name but a few reading the accounts of ex scientologists. I do believe the ex scientologists, because when veiwing videos of scientologists, they appear evasive, manic, controlling and some even sinister. Reading the testimonies of ex scientologists appear genuine factual .   Everyone experiences trauma of some sort in there lives, making money out of that trauma is not a good or proper thing to do

Wake up goverments to the facts, and do something about it. It could be your child thatis picked out in the crowd to sign the contract.I always thought the law was an Ass and the rich are riding on it. It also appears that having money today, can turn a lawsuit in your favour, as in Scientologists favour. Where can anyone tell me?  Is the justice in that.

Fight for freedom, of those enslaved, forced to work for vertually nothing, eat beans and rice.While the likes of Tom Cruise, because he obviously puts in millions of dollors into his addiction, gets a different kind of treatment.

Peathdool
Peathdool

What religion talks about harming others, intentionally? What religion has a camp that parishioners are sent to as punishment to be reprogrammed? Sometimes kept for years doing menial jobs with little food and abysmal living conditions, where phone calls if allowed at all are monitored, all incoming or outgoing mail is monitored? Talking about the tech of your religion, defending your religion is ludicrous when you know these monstrosities are happening to your brethren on a daily basis. You lost the right to discuss your benefits, and your "wins" when the first person was taken away to be punished, when you decided to follow a madman who "slimes" people who disagree with him or his group. You lost the right to be a religion long ago, you are involved with a criminal enterprise that financially rapes what few members are left. I hope you enjoy having a pallet of books the mice are eating because you were forced to by dozens of copies of things you already owned. You sir are a fool and the blood of the suffering at RTC Hemet are on your hands with each dollar yo stupidly pay to the monsters who perpetuate the insanity that is Scientology. You sir are the problem, not the solution.

Mat Pesch
Mat Pesch

In the early 80's I was the Security Chief at Scientology's international base in Hemet, CA.At that time I routed Mark Miglio off the base and out of the Sea Org for "devil worship" and other outnesses.  I'd go into more detail but I'll give Mark a break....

Jerryr6868
Jerryr6868

I am sorry but I am completely unable to buy into this cult's claim to be a "church". I happen to live in Tampa, FL which is right next door to that insane asylum you people call a headquarters and if you don't make the paper once a week with one more batch whackiness it just isn't a full seven days. We get enough bad press here in FL we sure didn't need the whackiest cult in the world bringing us more.

robinlandseadel
robinlandseadel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Sorry. You don't have my sympathy. All the info I have on L. Ron Hubbard indicates that he was a phenomenally shitty person. Because I've read a fair amount of Alesteir Crowley's writings and have known [and lived with] people in the O.T.O., I know where L. Ron Hubbard got whatever minimal religious education he possessed. There is a similar flavor and that flavor is EGO. On top of that, Aleister Crowley specifically referred to Ron as an idiot. You can find the materials concerning LRH's spiritual education in "A Piece of Blue Sky." Scientology has an aversion to consensus reality because it is inherently incompatible with consensus reality. Scientology has problems with the law because Scientology indulges in too many illegal activities. Scientology has a problem with the truth and with intelligent criticism because Ron was a lair and very, very stupid.

http://www.xenu.net/archive/bo...

Scientology is a Luciferian religion—it purports to turn men into gods. The O.T.O. and other Western Occult groups also are Luciferian but they are up-front about that—you know what you are getting into with these people. Problem is, Scientology is not up-front about its sources, Sceintology veils its sources and conducts massive misinformation campaigns in the attempt to control self-inflicted damage. By instilling this as policy, in the top-down edicts of the evil dwarf running the scam, it makes itself look more foolish and more dangerous in the process.

I am looking forward to David Miscavige being arrested and jailed. I look forward to the downfall of Scientology. I consider coerced confessions on primitive lie detectors to be morally wrong. I do not think that the Squirrels are doing themselves any favors by using stupid, self-damaging tech. I think Scientology is an epic fail on all levels.

If, with all this vaunted talent, "Battlefield Earth" is the best Scientology's best minds can come up with, then Scientology's claims of radical improvements in cognitive abilities have to be considered a total failure. 

"For you shall know them by their works."

danlocke
danlocke

I knew someone named Mark Miglio when we were both posted at ASHO Day in the 80's. Maybe the 90's too. 

I have never read anything he wrote, other than these blog comments. 

His blog comments line up for me as being "the" Mark Miglio I knew way back then.

I knew him to be earnest and sincere, as he is being here and now in this post and in his comments. 

I am not an English teacher or scholar. I barely passed my grades in English in school so I am not certain about this next datum; it just "feels true" to me: it's easier to be clever and interesting in criticizing than it is in praising. 

I'd like to suggest people who comment here to study Steve Hassan's site, articles and videos about how to talk with members of any cult. (Interesting that a lot of what Steve has to say is pretty well summed up also in the bulletins "You Can Be Right" and "Recognition of Rightness of a Being".)

Also check out the story that Tony and others posted about her leaving the Church. 

Antagonism and ridicule are good tools for drawing a mob together to witness a school yard brawl, but I have never seen anyone brought any closer to reason through their use.

Of course, that's just me. Perhaps you have had your own successes. 

But give me the benefit of the doubt for the moment. Check out Steve's site. In many of his videos he tells a story of how others gave him a hand at getting out of the Unification Church (the "moonies"). 

You'll find that it wasn't done through punching holes in what the Reverend had been telling him or in what he had come to believe. 

Mark Miglio: it is good to hear from you again. As Ron once said, "Keep communicating and when they all think your dead; say something!" (Tape:  Contact With the Public). 

But also it would be a good idea to take your blinders off.  Go online and do your own research. There is nothing there that will kill you. Your "stable data will be shaken", but you are strong enough to deal with that. 

One of the main things that never made sense to me when I was "in" was, if we were the Church with all the answers, how come we would not allow any questions?

If we were so tough and capable and, if the book, "Dianetics '55, A Handbook for Human Communication" were a true and capable book (which I believe it mostly is), than why would any Scientologist have to worry himself at all over a little antagonism or contrary point of view.

We were to taught to "handle or disconnect" from antagonism or we would become "potential trouble sources" and ill.  That's nonsense. 

Read your Scientology axioms. Only through "not-ising" could you become ill. Read, duplicate and come to your own conclusions. 

And for the rest of you, "See you later, agitators!"

Sheriff Buford T. Justice
Sheriff Buford T. Justice

So, if they are expanding in wealth, why would they need their own private gold mine complete with explosives. They got taking the ore to the mill.

That wealth sure can buy a lot more propane.

Scientology: the propane hoarding, 10,000 kid stalking, razor wire facing inward church

If you watch "angry gay pope twin peaks" you will see these creeps using shrub-tech to hide a GIANT TANK of propane.

This size tank is used by county's to provide propane for a month. Not a church.

Call Homeland Security on these fuckers and report this.

Why report this? A dangerous cult (america judge) that has publicly declared to do harm to Americans, their protesters; has already demostarted this with their act of terrorism they commited upon the poor kids with loud music. That music was meant to damaged their ears, all the while scientolgy wore earplugs.

They make their members read books on war, and Im sure they are required to read The Anarchist Cookbook as well.

Propane bombs are the cheapest way for a cheap ass cult to do harm

Report the propane. I did.

Hunterdogs
Hunterdogs

If I have time, I will write more later and deal with some of the individual points, but in short, that is why I say they are deluded. No one would be in there unless he or she believed almost everything that Mark Miglio believes. And that is why, after about 60 years, almost nobody is in there. Mark, forget the words. Just show us an OT phenomenon. Just show us a clear as described in Dianetics The Modern Science of Mental Health.

Anon A
Anon A

"Now as a Scientologist, I know that no one is actually an enemy" -- Mark Miglio

Well Mark, you seem to know something that Hubbard himself never knew:

"ENEMY: SP Order. Fair game. May be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed.""Psychiatry" and "psychiatrist" are easily redefined to mean "an anti-social enemy of the people"."People attack Scientology. I never forget it, always even the score.""Always find or manufacture enough threat against them [enemies of Scientology] to cause them to sue for peace."...All direct quotes from L Ron Hubbard.

tamsonsbairn
tamsonsbairn

Mark you say your stats are made up from people who are not just scientologists, I wonder who they could be huh, it ain't the catholics, protestants,buddhists, hmm i wonder, oh wait it's those wonderful people the nation of islam, now there's a bunch of ethical people if ever I saw one, in fact it's a toss up between you and them as to who is.

Le Stat
Le Stat

Tony, thank you for posting Miglio's letter.I was thinking like him for almost 20 years of my life.I was a good Scientology Internet soldier too. I thought I was fighting a good fight. Honesat to God.Not anymore. And no, it's not just "AN--INJUSTICE--HAS--BEEN--DONE--TO--ME !!! ".Although, that too. Cult is a cult: disconnection, manipulation, human rights violation, while promoting human rights, etc. I hope some day soon, Miglio will wake up.

Scientia
Scientia

Use of generalities ("your commentators", "exaggerated or false 'facts'", etc.). No individuals mentioned. No exaggerations or false data specified.

Black PR is based on LIES, not facts. To handle Black PR one must DISPROVE lies. (HCO PL 21 Nov 1972, PR Series 18, How To Handle Black Propaganda). No lies specified. No lies disproven.

We have discussed statistics before, Mark. I have asked you repeatedly for evidence that org stats are up (refs HCO PL 31 January 1983, The Reason For Orgs, LRH ED 131 INT 8 Dec 1970 Life Repair Block). So far, nothing.

This just isn't Scientology.

scifibandit
scifibandit

"giving the "bad guys" the power to destroy the "good guys". "But who's to define the "bad" from the "good"? Obviously players from all sides would consider the other side, "Bad" and their own "Good," which makes this statement completely arbitrary. Both sides use the same 'Black Propaganda' tactic, unfortunately. 

"The ethical, moral, and fair thing to do is to reject facts, rumor, and controversial factoids, unless the image painted is in the public interest."

Again, who's to have the final word on what is in the public interest or not? I prefer a world in which all information can be accessed, and from it, I can make up my own mind. To allow another to reject a fact and withhold it because they feel it is not in the public interest can be likened to a Big Brother type of control over society. And there is nothing more frightening to imagine.

"The Scientology technology comprises of all new concepts and a new way of doing things..."

Yes and no. LRH got many of his ideas from the Tao, Confucianism, Buddhism, Freud, and others. These concepts are not new in themselves, but are spliced together in what may be a completely new fashion. The concept of KR's isn't unlike the communist request that neighbors, daughters, mothers, sons, fathers, and anyone report on each other's suspicious activities. I am sure that sons and daughters of communists didn't rat out their parents disaffection thinking that anything bad would happen to their parents, but in many cases, they never saw them again. This isn't far from disconnecting from family that cannot be 'handled.' In effect, Scientologists who disconnect from their family believe that Scientology is more important than family. This happened also in Fascist and Communist regimes. That kind of dedication to a cause frightens me. I can't personally understand how someone can think they are saving the planet at the same time they are putting their family through emotional hell by ignoring them... but maybe that's just me.

"but when we are examined carefully you will discover us to be marvelous in one way or another."

As are the 'wogs', too... did you know? So many marvelous wogs out there... like Mother Theresa, Gandhi,  Anne Frank, Helen Keller, etc. etc. When examined closely, there are few people I have ever met that weren't marvelous in one way or another. 

I never saw anyone directly physically abused when I was at orgs either, but I saw mental abuse. I saw the effects of all night regging in the eyes and the health of org employees. I saw superiors bark orders at their 'charges' with no 'ARC'. I saw staff members with red eyes and dried tears. It was routine. It was always justified by what a tremendous effort it was to be a member of the Sea Org. What enormous responsibility it was to clear the planet. I didn't see how these Sea Org members, many under the age of 18 and completely ignorant in how the majority of people learn how to responsible for themselves, could possibly save the world. They knew not much about the world aside from what Hubbard wrote about it. 

I understand trying something completely new. 

I do not understand advocating ignorance of all that humanity has learned previously as a sacrifice to bring in the new.

DMSTCC
DMSTCC

The following is direct from the pro Co$ scientologymyths.wordpress [.com]. I was going to point towards the last paragraph, but the insanity starts after the first.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------"This is not my blog and what I write here is my point of view based on 40 years as a Scientologist, who has trained as an Auditor and Case Supervisor as well as advanced training in policy.In the Auditor’s Code, the Code of a Scientologist and especially Keeping Scientology Working, LRH stresses that it is the job of every Scientologist to keep Scientology working, not just staff or management or the Sea Org. Scientology is defined by LRH as an applied religious philosophy. It’s something we do, not “believe”. It is learned under the strongest intention to keep the technology pure, without alteration and definitely not by those who try to “audit” outside of the exact administrative procedures laid out by LRH in policy to keep it that way. Anti-Scientology “factions” have gone to great lengths to undermine this management that is holding the line on the technology so people get maximum benefit and gains from it.What this all comes down to is that the applied philosophy itself is workable procedure that gets intended results. You see squirrels like Rathbun and his ilk still trying to use the tech. You see people trying to put the technology up on the internet. When people complain about prices, they are not complaining about the tech itself, but the cost. People are yelling “free free free” “gimmee gimmee gimmee” without consideration of what it takes to produce the Auditors and trained Scientologists to deliver. But, see, they still want the tech, while saying Scientology is a “cult” etc. etc.Bottom line, Scientology is the tech (the applied religious philosophy). It is not management, It is not who bit who or who squirreled or who altered. It is the tech, exactly as researched and written by L Ron Hubbard, and administered according to his policy on how it should be. Scientology is not something to be debated, or argued about. That is because Scientology is not belief-based (what is true is true only if personally observed to work),The purpose of Ethics is to get tech in. I have recently ceased communication with anyone displaying open-mindedness and deprogramming type activity. (See page 216 Introduction to Scientology Ethics).Pat"-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Scientology has no idea what Ethics, Honesty and Integrity truly means.

LocalSP1
LocalSP1

A Fact:Hubbard said he came up with Dianetics to help himself heal from his war injuries.

Another fact: According to government records Hubbard was never injured during WW-II

Final fact:Since Hubbard was never injured he had no injuries to heal. Dianetics is a lie made up by a third rate Sci-Fi writer and master con man.

JustCallMeMary
JustCallMeMary

 " May I say that you are in a well-admired position for reporting on an organization that is trying to handle the long-neglected negative emotional charges of many, many lifetimes -- and that this will also explain why our major-service donations requests are costly as they are -- not counting the free and low cost services. " Orly?? It that what they told you? LOL!

Jefferson Hawkins
Jefferson Hawkins

Keep in mind, too, that most Scientologists live in a fantasy world where "Scientology is universally popular and acclaimed," "Scientology is expanding," "Scientology is having a massive global impact," and "Scientologists are super-beings who accomplish amazing things." Any contrary information, such as their own empty organizations, the nearly universal scorn and mockery with which the subject is regarded, the complete lack of any confirming evidence that Scientology is having any positive impact on the world, and the failures, crimes and even suicides of advanced Scientologists, are either explained away or ignored. They know these things are true because they are told they are true by their Church leaders at their internal events and in their own internal publications. Therefore they are true. Any contrary information is "entheta" spread by "Suppressive persons." As Mark Miglio says, "The ethical, moral, and fair thing to do is to reject facts, rumor, and controversial factoids, unless the image painted is in the public [i.e. Scientology's} interest."

scifibandit
scifibandit

Whoops, I think I commented in the wrong place.

DMSTCC
DMSTCC

WTF is this?...

"The ethical, moral, and fair thing to do is to reject facts, rumor, and controversial factoids, unless the image painted is in the public interest."

JustCallMeMary
JustCallMeMary

Poor Mark, I understand his desire to explain things but per Scientology Hubbard Communications Office Bulletin 15 February 1979, Reissued 12 April 1983 titled ' Verbal Tech: Penalties , point #5 makes it a crime to interpret Hubbard's writings for another person. Anyone found to be using ``verbal tech'' will be brought before a court of ethics.

He is supposed to to sell Tony Ortega a book, or invite him in to see an Introduction to Scientology movie at the org, or invite Tony to do a 'stress test'. Not interpretate Scientology!!!

It will suck to be him soon.  Maybe Mark join with the rest of the world who can speak and write freely and not fear the consequences. Gee, he may well wind up getting his services at Mark Rathbun's place someday, lol.

God how I don't miss being a scientologist at all!

choocho
choocho

Miglio sounds like one of the OSA dudes who used to play  the online entity "Terryeo", Terryeo having been manned by different OSA at different times.

Rita Michaels
Rita Michaels

Nice try... but Scientology is not a religion. That's just a "shore story" that Hubbard came up with in order to cloak his sinister pyramid scam.

Jefferson Hawkins
Jefferson Hawkins

I think the most telling statement from "Mark Miglio" is this one: "It is my opinion that facts can be used to destroy truths." For a Scientologist (and I was a Scientologist for over 30 years), there is a "truth" which transcends mere "facts," which transcends mere "reality," and that is that Scientology is good and Hubbard is a genius. They "know" this. And anyone who presents "facts" that contradict this is an "enemy" of the truths of Scientology. Anyone who criticizes Scientology is an enemy to be discredited. Anyone who presents troubling "facts" that challenge their world-view is a criminal, a "failed case," a bad, evil person. For a Scientologist, information is not "true" or "false", it is "theta" (pro-Scientology) or "entheta" (anti-Scientology). Anything that questions Scientology is "entheta" and therefore, by definition, false.

I know, it's crazy. It's thought-stopping. It means that no Scientologist can ever listen to information that is critical of Scientology or challenges its "truths."

By the way, I was in Scientology for over 30 years, in the Sea Org for most of that time, and at the Int Base for 18 years, as chronicled in my book, "Counterfeit Dreams." I never heard the name "Mark Miglio" and I know no one by that name. He never worked at the Int Base during the time I was there, at least not under that name. He was probably an OSA staffer (and likely still is). OSA is the propaganda/intelligence arm of Scientology.

danlocke
danlocke

I knew someone named Mark Miglio when we were both posted at ASHO Day in the 80's. Maybe the 90's too. 

I have never read anything he wrote, other than these blog comments. 

His blog comments line up for me as being "the" Mark Miglio I knew way back then.

I knew him to be earnest and sincere, as he is being here and now in this post and in his comments. 

I am not an English teacher or scholar. I barely passed my grades in English in school so I am not certain about this next datum; it just "feels true" to me: it's easier to be clever and interesting in criticizing than it is in praising. 

I'd like to suggest people who comment here to study Steve Hassan's site, articles and videos about how to talk with members of any cult. (Interesting that a lot of what Steve has to say is pretty well summed up also in the bulletins "You Can Be Right" and "Recognition of Rightness of a Being".)

Also check out the story that Tony and others posted about Tory Christman leaving the Church. 

Antagonism and ridicule are good tools for drawing a mob together to witness a school yard brawl, but I have never seen anyone brought any closer to reason through their use.

Of course, that's just me. Perhaps you have had your own successes. 

But give me the benefit of the doubt for the moment. Check out Steve's site. In many of his videos he tells a story of how others gave him a hand at getting out of the Unification Church (the "moonies"). 

You'll find that it wasn't done through punching holes in what the Reverend had been telling him or in what he had come to believe. 

Mark Miglio: it is good to hear from you again. As Ron once said, "Keep communicating and when they all think your dead; say something!" (Tape:  Contact With the Public). 

But also it would be a good idea to take your blinders off.  Go online and do your own research. There is nothing there that will kill you. Your "stable data will be shaken", but you are strong enough to deal with that. 

One of the main things that never made sense to me when I was "in" was, if we were the Church with all the answers, how come we would not allow any questions?

If we were so tough and capable and, if the book, "Dianetics '55, A Handbook for Human Communication" were a true and capable book (which I believe it mostly is), than why would any Scientologist have to worry himself at all over a little antagonism or contrary point of view.

We were to taught to "handle or disconnect" from antagonism or we would become "potential trouble sources" and ill.  That's nonsense. 

Read your Scientology axioms. Only through "not-ising" could you become ill. Read, duplicate and come to your own conclusions. 

And for the rest of you, "See you later, agitators!"

I'drathernot
I'drathernot

You and me both. I did it till I was 17, was steps away from joining SO when I was slapped in the face with the grim reality of the COS. Im proud of you!

awake
awake

Congratulations.  I hope you are doing well!  

anon la
anon la

Btw -- if the term WOG really does originate from the old racist description of "worthy oriental gentleman" -- how can any Scientologist, who claims to have such lofty and holy goals for improving the planet, think that this term is in any way nothing but outrageously offensive, as well as revealing LRH to be racist in his time?  I don't care if they want to invent some new prejudiced term to refer to non-Scientologists out in the world… But WOG?  Really??

anon la
anon la

Thanks for mentioning some of the ancient and more recent bonafide philosophies that LRH cribbed from.  I mean, I do fully respect if someone wants to build on something or alter something to try something new, many philosophers and scientists and religious revolutionaries have.  And I respect modernization and creativity… but when you are talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars, and an organization micromanaging your life, and broken families, because of -- "There are many mental and emotional things to handle which span many lifetimes."  -- Well, yeah, Buddha started talking about karma around about 6,000 years ago, thanks, and since then many people from various cultures have come up with their own ideas and versions of past lives, not to mention why we all suffer in life from time to time in different ways, and they've given all kinds of advice on maybe how to live life as a decent person... and countless generations of people successfully have led healthy and happy and successful lives and countless more are today, even in the current economy or with wars and pollution and so on… and you can get most of this help and literature, from all these various philosophies and cultures, for free.

awake
awake

…"I have recently ceased communication with anyone displaying open-mindedness …"   >_<

Old OT7
Old OT7

And that's why Tommy "The Weasel" Davis is now in the RPF.  For stating just what you posted.  Not sure of the exact quote but it was something like, "If his (Hubbard's) war record was a lie, then  dianetics and scientology was based on lies."

MarkStark
MarkStark

Right, like "you've got charge from millions of lifetimes, and that's why we charge millions..."

Except wait, when Hubbard was a one-lifer, and pushing Dianetics without e-meter, he was charging $500/pop for a few weeks of "lectures." 

I'drathernot
I'drathernot

I have to agree with you here. At ALL the events I went to at Flag.. run by DM himself, it was ALWAYS..look how we are progressing. A couple years ago there was a huge push that the tech was being "re-released" and that everything was getting an overhaul.  I know this because my parents tried that angle to get me back to the COS, saying "things werent like they used to be. COS is constantly throwing stats at you on the growth and progress and when your IN it.. you dont think to actually investigate what they are saying.  Not until I left did I actually look back and wonder if any of it was true. Mark whole heartedly believes what he has been told is true. He would be immediately kicked out if he actually tried to verify any of this data hes been given. He would leave voluntarily if he were to realize what I did. Its all just smoke and mirrors while they rob your bank account and hold you captive.

Old OT7
Old OT7

Jeff, I was told that Hubbard stopped WW3 back in '80 or '81.  I also remembering hearing that the group's OTs actually were the ones that broke the communist hold on eastern Europe and brought down the Berlin Wall.

Did you ever hear anything like that?

MarkStark
MarkStark

"...most Scientologists live in a fantasy world where Scientology is universally popular and acclaimed."

Ain't that the truth. That's why the word "brainwashed" always springs to mind when an outsider gets to the point where they realize Scilons take themselves so seriously, about being the only ones who "know," the only ones who can save the planet. The first time I saw the video of Tom Cruise, then Hubbard on his ship and Miscavige on his Wizard of Oz stage, I couldn't believe it.

Most people don't even know who the F L. Ron Hubbard is and even the name sounds humorous and huckster-like. And here are these people saluting his giant photo like he's Stalin, pledging their multi-life devotion.

It's like woe, what a freak show!

DuckBenway
DuckBenway

WTF is this?...

Don't worry. It's only Retarded Thugs, From Outer Space.

robert
robert

Thanks, Jeff.

Like I've been saying, troll is a troll is a troll.

Old OT7
Old OT7

A very superior post, Jeff!  And...one hell of a great book too!  It seems to me to be all about "group think."  That's why any reasonable person gets shot down.

XenuBodyThetan
XenuBodyThetan

Mark might have been one of the "visiting" staff, like I essentially was, Jeff.   I think Mark was on one or several of those OSA Int projects to do with OSA Int's files they keep at Int (for experts, see Marc Headley's book "Blownforgood" the inside flaps, number 36, the "archives sotrage" building, just north of the "Tapes storage" building).  My ex wife did a couple times stay overnight uplines, Jeff, while she (my ex wife was OSA Int's Files person, she had others help her on various files upkeep projects, and FBI and US Justice Dept people ought to know and appreciate Marc's book for detailing what's in which building at the Int Base) did her various projects tending the OSA Int files they keep up at the Int Base in the "files" or "Archives storage" building.   And of course he's completely unaware of the various levels of access to "being no COB's lines", he's never been called to a meeting with DM, where DM's let loose on people.   DM only lets loose on people in certain situatioms, so not everyone sees DM go berserk.  OSA staff did errands or OSA Intell files tending at Int, and they still do.     - Chuck Beatty, Pittsburgh.  ex Sea Org (1975-2003)

Joe Lynn
Joe Lynn

Thanks for the post Jeff.  I'd like to add some of my own take on this.

Facts for a Scientologist are not 'facts' as they are for a non-Scientologist.   By theory, 'truth' in Scientology is a matter of choice and 'agreement',   So, 'immutable truth' or 'fact' are non-existent.  

While this would usually lead to a complete morass of meaninglessness, for the Scientologist the sheer chaos of 'anything can be true' is held in check by what's called the 'Stable Datum'.  

There are no facts or truths except what you choose or agree with, however, reality *can* be determined by how well ones own reality aligns with a 'Stable Datum'.

For a Scientologist, there are a number of 'Stable Datums' (I used datums deliberately)  One could be 'Scientology Works', or 'What Ron Says Is True' or any of a numbr of other articles of faith (although, according to Scientology, they are not 'belief',) and everything else builds on them.

A Scientologist's 'Stable Datum' is axiomatic; it isn't questioned or examined or required to be independently tested.  It just is, and everything else aligns to it or everything else is *wrong*.

MarkStark
MarkStark

I figured the truth/facts distinction was something to that effect, but thank you for explaining it so clearly.

When asked what Scientology is, or for that matter asked anything about Scientology, the Scientologist is not supposed to defend or explain anything. Instead, they are supposed to issue commands to "read a book" or "take a course" and "find out for yourself."

With Miglio, we see why that is. When not selling it to a vulnerable person, the cult member flounders, using this jumble of cult word redefinitions which make them sound mentally ill.

To the outsider first reading commentary like this, or most of the comment posts done by the OSA, it sounds bizarre. It seems like they are using some form of thought-stopping, or very limited logic on a juvenile level. This is odd coming from a cult where people are supposed to be so expansive in their thinking, having their "space blown out," not to mention obtaining mastery over "communication."

OSA often addresses people like they are potential recruits, even people like Tony. In discourse with Independent Scientologists, it is hardly any better. These people are not used to discussing what it means to each other, let alone outsiders.

It gets back to, that they just "know" they are the only people who can save the planet and have all the answers. What a stretch.

TheGuest
TheGuest

I'd swear Hubbard stole much of the novel "1984" for the foundation of his enterprise.  Doublethink, Thought Crimes, and more of the sci crazy, it's all in there, every bit! 

Of course, when I say stole, I must have meant he invented it.  See, that's scientology scientific new "how to think" tech.   Aw, wait.  Thinking is bad. Think Thinkingness, an actual sci word and concept!  No,  you just are supposed to "know" because you see, you've already studied everything, done everything, so you just have to "recall" it.   I'm not making this up!

So who needs college?   On days like today when noticing the stock market plunge, I just recall a time when I was the wealthiest citizen of Planet Zork and just "knew" what to do:  Cash in all my stocks and hand it over to the nearest Hubbard salesman for planetary dissection.  Or was that dissemination?  Maybe Mark will lend me his tech dictionary. 

DMSTCC
DMSTCC

Dig this one...

' Scientology is defined by LRH as an applied religious philosophy. It’s something we do, not “believe”.'

robert
robert

It's rather more your burden of proof to prove that in fact he was injured, as the official records and official statement of the government say otherwise. 

He didn't even see combat.  How was he then injured? 

The official records also say that he was reprimanded and determined unfit for command.  

After the war, the official records show that he himself asked for disability, stating that he had psychiatric issues and ulcers.  He never asked for disability based on any war injuries.  The official records also say that he didn't earn the medals that he claimed.He never graduated from college or got any of the degrees that he would intermittently claim that he had gotten.  He claimed he was made a blood brother to the Black Feet Indians.  They say they never had any such rite.  So let's look at what your position:He had injuries (for which there is no proof).He had great scientific understanding (for which he no background and no degree on record)Dianetics does wonderful things (but there are no independent studies, just anecdotes from people trying to sell something)

But the thousands who have left/and or come forward to testify to the harms/crimes of Scientology are all liars, even though many have testified on the record, and have supporting facts and records to back up their claims(for example, Marc Headley having to escape from Gold Base, having police records of the escape).  

Umm, ok.

JustCallMeMary
JustCallMeMary

LOL!!!!  THAT deserves to be chosen for Comment of the Week!

DuckBenway
DuckBenway

@4255fa6899c5bbdf9b1cb90929564125:disqus ; what you seem to be defining and suggesting here Joe, is a kind of "Do-It-Yourself Psychosis Kit." 

E-Meter Not Included. Batteries Not Included. 

Dreaming up the package design and advertising campaign is lulzy. 

Eleven out of ten Scientologists say "Sanity Is Over-Rated." 

For a mere $350,000.00, anyone can have enough batshit-crazy to last a billion years! 

Get Yours Today!

awake
awake

Any person or organization that claims to have or know or teach the One True Path or Only Answer, is immediately exposed for being suspicious and ignorant.  That is small and frightened thinking.  And any person or organization that cannot accept a thoughtful dialogue that happens to be critical or challenging to its actions or beliefs -- they are immature and unenlightened.  A sign of strength and intelligence is the ability to accept, consider, and discuss criticism of oneself and reflect.  

SFF
SFF

Someone should have told Hubbard that 1984 wasn't supposed to be a manual.

Joe_Lynn
Joe_Lynn

And, make no mistake; the *application* of Scientology as devised by L. Ron Hubbard will *inevitably* be criminal.

There are Scientologists who only apply 'parts' of 'The Tech' and who cherry pick their Scientology.  But, Scientology as a *whole* is Scientology as revealed by L. Ron Hubbard, in its and His entirety.

There is no way that L. Ron Hubbard's Scientology can not be criminal.

Pink legs and all

Joe_Lynn
Joe_Lynn

Except for rejecting and sometimes lampooning the silliness of it, few people really care about the 'religious philosophy' part.

It's the *application* that becomes criminal.

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