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in the real world there are no rules and anything CAN and WILL happen. this is fake controlled life.. what the hell happened to this show?
This show is living proof in this day & age that people (especially young adults) will do anything for fame! Exploit me as long fame comes with it!!
As for the contract the gay kid who wouldn't admit he was gay on the Seattle season (I forgot his name) slapped the girl dead in her face because she called him gay on national tv. The whole camera crew watched him do this and didn't lay a finger to stop it. What did he get a little slap himself on the wrist don't do this again and go to anger management classes. He didn't get arrested or even kicked off the show. Everything was back to normal three episodes in. It's all a fantasy not reality nothing is real on tv.
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*Sigh*I guess if people are stupid and choose to sign without reading, then yea, they had that coming, . But now. . Its so easy for anyone to record you and put you online. . I feel like if you choose to act like a rational person, its not that different. . .
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I bet a lot of people don't read the contract or just really wanna be on TV that bad to consent to all this. The part where they can misrepresent you and pretty much make you look like an ass if it makes for good TV really caught me off guard. I'm glad I finally got to see the contract though I was really curious.
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Okay? People agree to do this. They presumably read the contract and are willing to comply with it for their 15 minutes of fame. No one is forcing them into it. Obviously there are parts of it that seem inhumane or unfair, but this is 100% voluntary. There are so many bigger injustices in the world in which people do not have a choice. We all know MTV (among pretty much every other major corporation out there) is a soulless, money-hungry unstoppable machine... is anyone even surprised ?
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So...I was chosen to be on the show. And I was going to do it...until I read this contract, no lie. I spoke with the producer about the specifics of many of those same highlighted lines. He downplayed them, claiming that the conditions were exhaustive in order to protect the network. Understandable, kind of. I wasn't willing to subject myself to that magnitude of lost privacy. I felt like signing that contract would mean signing away rights that a person should never compromise.
Oh lordie I renember that contract....it was a long seminar with executive producers.
This is great. MTV set a standard for reality tv...lol @ granting blanket rights 2 your life story & ur responsible 4 all long distant call charges. Sounds like voluntary servitude.
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Egads at the rape and STD clauses *shudder*
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legally signing away your dignity I knew good job MTV.
How desperate for fame would someone have to be to actually sign this? MTV pretty much owns the signees and for what? A few months of being shoved down the public's throat until everyone you come in contact with hates you? Ridiculous.
This is the progression of the entertainment industry a reality series. While the Investor which in case would be Mtv makes millions this is why you must always have a good entertainment attorney with at least twenty yrs practicing expereince give you direction. Most of these reality stars can't afford legal counsel and just accepts what they are offered. Well Good Luck!
The level of victim-blaming ("These people deserve what they get if they sign this without reading it!") in these comments is nauseating. These contracts are not created by accident, and burying a, "Oh by the way, you might be raped and you both acknowledge that and absolve us of any liability by signing this" in a 30 page contract is disingenuous at best and predatory at worst.
It also overwhelmingly puts more women in danger than men, which is handy because "she brought it on herself" is one of the most common 'arguments' put forth when rape accusations are made.When fame is considered one of the greatest signs of success in this country and young people are offered it before they're thirty, it's simplicity itself for megacorporations like MTV and its affiliates to prey on that desire and then throw up their hands with, "Well, they knew what they were getting into!" when something goes wrong. It's even easier because they know people will back them up.Disgusting.
The compensation is too low and some of the clauses are questionable (i.e. one that basically says you could be raped and you just have to deal with it? Isn't that illegal?)
That said for at least Mike Mizanin it has skyrocketed careers. He's in at least the mid 6 figures by now. If they were talking about a compensation of at least $500,000 I'd do it.
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I'll pass on this contract.
How is this surprising?
I would NEVER sign this kind of contract, The ones who agree to sign this must be real idiots, and I belive they deserve what they are going to get.
There is no way in the world I would sign that contract regardless of what was being offered to me in return, and I honestly can't imagine that I could have any respect for anyone who would.
Effectively, signing this contract releases the production company and parents/affiliates from any liability for lack of due diligence if the signator is harmed in any way, shape, for or fashion from anything relating to the show. I'd imagine, though, that even though the company cannot be sued for libel/slander with their "fictionalization," it also means that anything that is portrayed on the show cannot be used as legitimate evidence in a civil/criminal case against cast members, aside from raw footage. Once edited, for example, someone could have come off as saying that their uncle was a horrid individual with lots of crack whores in his basement, but should the uncle sue the cast member for slander, the edited words cannot be considered legitimate evidence and I'm spending far too much time on this, aren't I?Basically, you are informed of what you're getting into. But these people are 18-25 year olds who generally have little working knowledge of contracts and the consequences of signing such a contract. It's a risk I'd never be willing to take and those people that legitimately understand the contract and still sign seem to lack the foresight to understand how this could really go horribly wrong in the future.
so basically signing this is stupid and MTV is triple stupid? awesome
people actually sign these things... hence we on on the 10 millionth season of the show... idiots
or just get a job and avoid all this humiliation, misrepresentation and invasion of privacy
Add it all up aaand: You could be raped by a cast member, get AIDS, get syphillis or get killed and the people who picked that cast member to live with you -without a background check- hoping for dramatic effect isn't to be held responsible??? Are you f-ing kidding me with this thing???!!!! That section sounds more like a pipe-dream than anything that would hold up in court. "Non-consensual physical contact" - the euphamism doesn't make them sound any less despicable.
Wow. You deserve whatever you get for signing that thing without reading it.
@Neal I remember that. Steven and Irene were their names I think.
Exactly, this is aimed at fame whores who are just hell bent on national recognition. A lot of this is just typical CYA and not wanting individuals to get rich off of MTV's brand name, and afterwards a cast member like Eric Nies might go on to make a decent living off of his fame, but ultimately it's just all about "IM AWN DA TEE VEE!"
Being on TV is a job.
Agreed. I understand MTV trying to cover their behinds but just because you make people sign something saying you aren't responsible doesn't mean you're not responsible. "We were able to buy your incredible Real World house because it's built on the site of a nuclear meltdown. We are not responsible if you get cancer." Yes, you are.
That's true. They use it as a deterrent because most people will think they signed it and won't pursue legal action. It's like those release of liability contracts, it does not mean the service provider can act in a negligent fashion or that you still don't have grounds for suit if they don't perform.
Well... I don't like this contract anymore than any of you do, but I kind of get why MTV says they are not responsible for "non-consensual physical contact". The truth is, they hire these people and they place them together in this ridiculous situation. If one of them tries to force another to do something they don't want to do, it wasn't MTV forcing the rapist, so why should they be held responsible? It is the rapist who should pay for his/her crime. If any of you have studied law, you would know that no one other than the rapist pays for the crime itself. However, I would have to read the whole contract to know if they are also saving their asses for failure to do anything to stop the raping, since they are watching it happen. Those are two very different things. One is being responsible for the act, which they are not because they did not commit it, and another is being responsible for watching it happen and not doing anything to stop it.