Does Anyone Really Believe the Postponed "Cleaning" of Zuccotti Park was Brookfield's Decision? [UPDATED]

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Our Harry Siegel, who has been in Zuccotti Park since 9:00 PM last night, just phoned in to pose this question: "Does anyone really think this was Brookfield's decision?"

Here's what Harry is wondering right now:

"Mayor Bloomberg, finding almost no political support for his plan to "clean" and thus clear Zuccotti Park, made a rare eleventh-hour reversal. But the administration's assertion this morning that Brookfield Properties made an independent decision late last night to postpone a "scheduled cleaning" is tough to take at face value.

If Brookfield did in fact let the mayor's office know last night, why was it not announced until this morning, after more than 2,000 people had gathered in Zuccotti Park?

Will City Hall release the letter they say they received from the company? [CORRECTION: It's an email, not a letter, and it was sent to press members before this post went up, though I did not receive it for unclear reasons. The email is time-stamped 11:33 p.m., more than six hours before the administration made it public.]

And will City Hall offer anything other than the email to back up the rather incredible suggestion that Brookfield, not Bloomberg, made the decision?"

[Harry Siegel UPDATE, 9:05 a.m.]:Deputy Mayor Howard Wolfson forwarded an email asking these questions to Deputy Press Secretary Marc LaVorgna, who clarified that Brookfield's email had been made public. LaVorgna did not, however, respond to repeated requests to answer the other two questions. We'll update again if he does eventually respond.

[Steven Thrasher UPDATE, 8:35 AM]: Appearing on John Gambling's show as he does every Friday morning, Mayor Bloomberg held fast to his position that the decision to postpone the cleaning of Zuccotti Park belonged to Brookfield Properties. Bloomberg said that the situation would be different if the protestors were trying to camp out in a city owned public park like, say, Washington Square, where overnight sleeping is not allowed.

Four takeaways worth noting in Bloomberg's exchange with Gamlbing:

1. Bloomberg implied that Brookfield had been pressured by elected officials going to bat for the Occupy Wall Street demonstrators and their right to be in the park. But when Gambling tried to get specifics from the mayor about who it was applying that pressure, hinting that might be inappropriate, Bloomberg grew very vague.

2. Bloomberg said that the NYPD would be there to assist Brookfield if and when they needed their assistance to "clean" and clear the park. However, he admitted in so many words that in putting this off, Brookfield would make doing this far more difficult in the future. There will only be more protestors if and when they try to do this again.

3. Bloomberg said that the city could only clear the privately owned park of its own volition if there were a threat to public health or safety, and he admitted that the city currently has no such case nor any legal basis for doing so. His language sounded like that in the letters he got from civil rights lawyers yesterday.

4. Gambling did not address the glaringly obvious question (which Harry asked above) when he had the chance: if Brookfield did alert the city of their decision late last night, as Bloomberg said they did, why in the world was this not announced until hundreds of cops and thousands of protestors were facing off in Zuccotti Park?

Follow @harrysiegel from Occupy Wall Street right now (while the coffee still keeps him awake, anyway.)

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greedywaterrabbitt
greedywaterrabbitt

Isn't it horrible that Obama would give a billion to some co. to help it-we should hang him-but we should give the repubs a medal for giving 50 billion to Exxon!!

Malakkasinc
Malakkasinc

my questions : 1) why is the city of ny wasting more than 2 million bucks a day on the zucotties ? 2) for what ? 3) are any laws being enforced ? 4)what would happen if you ate a transfatty fried food and had a cigarette there ? and it's been obvious for years that nyc is nothing more than an open city and all at the taxpayers expense.

Sten Deadio
Sten Deadio

From an earlier rightwing hack's post..."The reason no "Tea Party" demonstrator ever slept out overnight is due to the fact that THEY HAVE JOBS, FAMILIES AND OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES..."

George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin had jobs, too, and yet found a little time to, uh, REBEL AGAINST AN EMPIRE and free themselves from the chains of aristocracy.  These OWS folks are just a little more dedicated than lazy deadbeat conservatives, who just want all government services to be free, including the government opression of minorities, gays, women, non-Christians, environmentalists, teachers, nurses, firefighters...oh sorry, the list is super-long.But you get the idea.  If it takes more than repeating FOXNews falsehoods or stealing rights from their neighbors, the TP isn't interested.  Their beef is with progress, which will continue whether they like it or not. 

lesserlesserwashington
lesserlesserwashington

Bloomberg is a billionaire, but a moron.  The public supports OWS.  I'll be spending my lunch with ODC on Freedom Plaza here in DC.

BOB E. STOUT
BOB E. STOUT

The CRY OF THE PEOPLE should be for a National Usury Law of Ten Percent.

YES! A 10% INTEREST RATE ON A BALANCES DUE FOR CREDIT.  

When you have low interest rates on home loans why should interest rates on credit cards be so high?   The battle cry of the Wall Street Occupiers for a national usury law of 10%.

There is no person who hold any political power in our country who could honestly explainwhy there we should be a 13% to a 21% interest charge on a 30 day credit card charge that is being paid off on a scheduled payment plan.  There is no representative of the people who could give an honest answer to such a question?   

Economic slavery is worse than human slavery in that the owners of such power feels no responsibility for the problem or the misery of their actions.  The only explanation for such high interest rates in Lobby Money given to and accepted by the Representatives of the People.  

The credit card is the loan bank of today and should be under a usury law of each statewith recommended guidance by a national Congress who has only oversight powers. 

"OCCUPY WALL STREET" AND "TEA PARTY" MEMBERS AND ALL GOOD PEOPLE CAN AGREE THAT  A 10% USUARY LAW WOULD HELP  THEM IN THEIR  LIVES TODAY, YESTERDAY AND TOMORROW. 

REMEMBER:

             GOD ONLY ASKS FOR 10% FROM HIS PEOPLE.  

BOB E. STOUTbstoutmd@gmail.com

akminister
akminister

I'll add to your plan that congress should force credit card companies and banks to return all of the predatory, unethical, dishonest fees and almost 30% interest on all past credit card debt, allowing them to keep a fair amount (I would say 8 percent is fair since my mortgage interest is under 5% and I'm earning less than 1% from my savings account, but I'd accept 10%).

Bank of America and all of the others know every single penny consumers owing them money spent and where they spent it. They know when they jacked people's interest rates up to almost 30% without reason and they know every added rapaciously high fee they slapped onto the total and when they added it. If they were allowed to keep 8-10% on purchases and were forced to give back the rest, they would still make a profit on the credit people actually used and consumers would have mountains of spendable income back in their pockets instead of being indentured servants for decades. That would be good for individuals, families, and our country's economy. So all is clear, other than my mortgage, I have no debt. I just know what is honest and fair, and that it is doable thanks to these companies having every spending move we've made in their data banks.

After that, I say we should turn out attention to the scheming, cheating insurance companies still raking in billions of profit because they cheat their customers.

ModerateGreed
ModerateGreed

its not about democrat or republican!  

 The problem is, no USA manufacturing, no USA future!

The 1% billionaires, who are in control of the puppets in congress and senate, made sure we make no laws to defend against cheap Chinese goods, made cheap by near-slave labor conditions, government subsidies, and a low value currency.

EVERYTHING you buy at Walmart is non-USA made, and most likely 99% are Chinese!

again, no USA manufacturing, no USA future!

the 1% billionaires are fine with this, because capitalism at its most extreme, makes it so that the super rich takes care of themselves only, and not care about destroying the country which holds their customers (the 99% Walmart shoppers).  They only think about making as much money right now, and damn to hell with the country that protected them and allowed them into their position.

- when I say super rich, I am not talking about mere millionaires, they are billionaires, and able to buy politicians wholesale.

- Capitlism is the greatest and most efficient system we have to motivate people, but like everything else in the universe, its good in moderation! when it gets so extreme as to have, lets see 1 guy or 1 family at the top, who owns everything, and everyone else is a peasant who pays rent to the top guy, (remember feudalism?) then its time for a revolution.

Digger
Digger

So your answer is to destroy the society so you can take from the rich? 

guest
guest

That is exactly the plan, bring down the system and have redistribution of wealth. The same people that have attempted to destabilize other countries are at the head of this effort. 

Right now, it's in the stoking the anger phase.  Wait for the attempt at getting workers out into the streets and national strikes.  

It's fine to criticize but you're aiming at the wrong targets, and drawing the wrong conclusions.  And not offering solutions.  

guest
guest

And meantime it is 121K dollars a day, and millions of dollars of city money that is going to allow this protest in the park to continue.  Money that could be going for jobs or services. Unbelievable!

Margaret Keller
Margaret Keller

This is probably the least informed post on this board. Congratulations, you know nothing about what you are spouting off about but still can scream and try to sound important.

Sten Deadio
Sten Deadio

See, when your dedication to a cause=bring the folding chairs and have an afternoon picnic, you don't need a clean up crew.  But when your dedication=stay as long as it takes to actually affect change in a corrupt system, well...things just might get messy.

Ilx
Ilx

I heard a survey by the NYT found that just 39% of the participators in this experiment vote.  That's real interesting, something like 89% of the Tea Party folks vote, wonder who will have bigger impact in the election?  It's a real mathematical poser!  It'll be the "Where's Waldo" of cause and effect's, FOFL!!!...

Kewlchickenator
Kewlchickenator

I say let them live in their environment they are use to. Let them eat slop like hogsThey represent the left so well. Lazy know it all hippies. No job no money no clue.living off the rest of us, waiting for someone to clean up after them

joewest666
joewest666

Let the Flea Baggers have their circus.

I hope Bloomberg has a coronary over it.

exinvestmentanalyst
exinvestmentanalyst

Wall street is full of crooks, I know I worked for them....One of the largest Brokerage houses in the world.  Dishonest, money matters kind of people, and by the way they are not looking out for the investors best intrest.  Anyone who says different is misinformed.

flying cuttlefish
flying cuttlefish

This "park" is most likely a scheme NYC has with law-breaking developers who violate air rights and other zoning laws. They break the law and "give" the city an alley off the property and fence it off, block it off and do everything to make it useless for public gathering. Now that this park is being used as a park City Hall is peeing in their pants.

Keep an eye out for a later surprise-mass-arrest!

 Jeff Patriot
Jeff Patriot

Bloomberg is out of touch with the average person. He is  one of the reasons we  are  at the park to begin with. HELLO!!! Government!! Can You HEAR us ??? WE ARE " THE PEOPLE" We are speaking to you, and you contine to insult our collective intelligence still. We are TIRED of the LIES!! Take it down, tear it down, burn it down, we need to  take OUR country BACK from such arrogance.

guest
guest

You really don't know the facts.

He is the only reason that you are there; the owner of the park wanted you out in the first week; it's because of Bloomberg stopping the police that you are still there.  It is because Bloomberg has been more tolerant than almost any other mayor would be anywhere else that you are still there today.  

Meanwhile, to hell with the rights or desires of the owner of the park or the neighbors; we don't count because YOUR rights are more important than ours.  

guest
guest

"Take it down, tear it down, burn it down"

A concise and telling statement.

Post
Post

The reason no "Tea Party" demonstrator ever slept out overnight is due to the fact that THEY HAVE JOBS, FAMILIES AND OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES ! This is what ultimately differentiates the 2 so-called "movements". The "Occupy XXXXX" people are just propagandists for an expanded welfare state who do not want to work a real job want everything for FREE (e.g. tutition, transportation, housing, etc.) Just ask 100 of them why they are protesting and 100 answers involve demands for rich people to give them something for free. I really love watching them be turned into pawns for the Democaratic Party :-)

Oh yea... When was the last time that a sanitation crew had to clean up after a Tea Party rally ?? I say let the OWS protesters sleep in their own filth. And, charge them all with littering... A $300 fine per incident would close the budget gap for the city !!

Like Lions
Like Lions

The 'clean up' is just a ploy. A rather obvious one. I have attended OWS protests and everyone has been surprisingly conscientious about picking up after themselves, given the messes crowds usually leave. After the rally against police brutality, hardly a piece of paper or cigarette wrapper was left behind. I helped pick up the small amounts of trash, along with others. Freedom Park is probably cleaner than usual.

guest
guest

I have been there. I am a neighbor.  So I know that it has been filthy until the announced plans to clean it up, at which point some cleaning has been done.  So you really can't lay out out there without being called on it.

cgallaway2000
cgallaway2000

the last time a sanitation crew had to clean up after a tea party? how bout after every one of their public rallies! Of course, a sanitation crew cleans up after every big get together, be it political rallies, county fairs, etc.

Josh Borwn
Josh Borwn

You know that in the 1960's and 1970's people where protesting about  war and being drafted. Now we have people protesting because they believe life has been unfair to them and people should feel sorry for them. Life isn't fair and never will be there will always be winners and loser's it's really up to each person decide what there going to do with their lives.One week of protest showed your point to America now how about getting off your butts and doing something other than sitting around holding signs all day and saying how bad it is. There are ton's volunteer jobs around the country that you could go to while your looking for a real job.

Kidqueens
Kidqueens

Josh,I disagree with you but you seem like a coherent decent person so I am going to ask you a question. A few weeks ago the CEO of Hewlett Packard was more or less forced out for doing a really lousy job. It is not important what his name is. This man made millions of dollars annually probably in the 10's of millions. It is public knowledge that people in these positions get all kinds of ridiculous money and perks and THEN a GOLDEN PARACHUTE FOR GETTING FIRED. He received multiple millions on the way out of the door. This is my question Josh and everyone who is reading. Why is that?

Graphicsports62
Graphicsports62

Leo Apotheker, the former CEO of Hewlett Packard, worked his way up from the bottom.  He got his start in the IT industry working with IT companies in Europe.  A lifetime of dedication and achievement led to him eventually becoming Co-CEO of SAP.  He is a French Legion of Honor winner  He got to the position he was by being among the best of the best, and I am sure working with a burning desire to get there.

I understand the stock tanked while he was their and he resigned under far less than favorable circumstances.  The point is that regardless of which ever field you want to consider, there are people who have managed to work their way to the top of the pyramid, and in the abstract, their salaries and compensation can seem exorbitant.  But businesses in a market economy are willing to do whatever they can to attract the best because they think it is to their advantage.   

Not everybody gets there.  The goal in this society is to provide equality of opportunity, not equality of condition.  The result should be a society where people have the incentive to work, to produce something, so they can get ahead for themselves and their families.  When that happens, we all benefit.  Equality of condition means handouts, and I think this is where the Occupy Wall Street message gets muddled.  Curbing abuses does not, and should not, equal redistribution of wealth per se.

When you put the focus on things you think are holding you back, you will ignore the things that could drive you forward.

guest
guest

Hi Scarlett,

I wish you luck in your job search, and I give you props for all that you have done.  

You are not looking to steal from the rich and give to the poor, but there are many within this movement that are looking to do just that.  Hence all the anti-capitalism signs in the park and in the many other locations that Occupy is being organized at.  I am very wary of the organizers behind this whole thing. 

I agree that we have been let down by many in government, and agree that it isn't just Republicans and Democrats, it's really both.  Like I said above, we hear about Obama  giving a billion dollar bailout to the Solyndra company, so it's not just one side or the other..  

I am wary of politicians who cry "change" just for the purpose of appearing to care, I am also wary of folks trying covertly to destabilize the system still further for their own purposes.  

Scarlet1766
Scarlet1766

Hi Graphicsports62,

I respect your calm and rational demeanor in your disagreement with what Occupy Wall Street is asking for. You make very valid points. I would just like to put in my two cents though, looking at this from another persepctive.

I'm 30 years old. I've worked or have attempted to work since I graduated college in 2004 (and also worked during college). I started out as a receptionist making $25,000 a year, far from extravagant because I knew that many of us have to work from the bottom up and not everyone lucks out and lands a $50,000 a year job right after they graduate.

I continued to work, and several years in I got a better job, making $40,000 a year with great benefits. I was ecstatic. I lived within my means and after 2 years, was able to buy a condo.

Then I was laid off 6 months later. It then took 8 months to find a temp job that ended 8 months after that. After 4 more months, I'm now at a temp job that is only guaranteed until December 31st.

Moral of the story? I am a hard working person that has lived within my means, strived to make something more of myself, only to fall prey to this train wreck we call an economy. We're not all looking for Robin Hood to steal from the rich and give to the poor. We just want the opportunity to climb the ladder so we can support ourselves, but to do that, there has to be a ladder to climb and right now, there's not.

Icantsing
Icantsing

I agree with you. I agree it isn't right or fair. I'd like to point out that if a company makes that sort of contractual agreement with it's employees, it deserves the consequences of it's actions ... whether positive or negative. If the company fails, due to it's bad decision(s), it should not be bailed out BY THE GOVT. If investors want to risk a loan, let that investing company prosper or fail for it's decisions ... and so on. Regards, My .02.

Digger
Digger

Good Morning Josh,The reason is that his employment contract provided for that; the employment contract that was agreed to by the owners (i.e. stockholders) of the company through their representatives on the company board.  The board did what they were required to do. They fired the person they held responsible for not doing his job.  The amount of severance he received is really only the business of those persons who paid it, not you and me.  If you want to have a say in THAT, then you will need to buy some stock in Hewlett Packard.  Sometimes the system seems unfair and flawed, and you know what …sometimes it is.  But so what… this is the real world, and every system of government and every system of business has flaws ... free-enterprise works, and works incredibly well, if you get out of its way.  Well there is an exception… if you have a government willing to rig the system in favor of business, then business can do much better, and I am sure  naïve folks sitting in that New York park really think the system is rigged here in the US.  They have no idea of what a rigged system REALLY is.  If you want to see that, you need to look at China. China has hugely benefited from the practice of free enterprise.  That is, they have benefited by playing by their own rules, and have done so at our expense.  They have manipulated their currency, raped the environment, and completed ignored the law regarding intellectual property rights and patents,  Funny, I don’t see any Occupy Wall Street folks in China… wonder why?   Free enterprise requires that first you MUST be willing to take and accept the consequences of risk. Second, you cannot have a government telling you how you will do business, because the government of your competitor is playing by a different set of rules.  (And yes I understand there must be laws and rules for many many things, but do we REALLY need to have the minutia of our lives ruled by some lawmaker?). Do you REALLY need to have some bureaucrat telling a manufacturer how strong his toilet paper can be? Bottom line.. you are where you are because the system allows you to be there.  But understand that everyone who is there, is there riding the back of someone else.  You are not creating or earning and someone somewhere is paying FOR you.  A parent, friend, or maybe me through my taxes paid to you through unemployment or welfare, rent subsidies, or one of a hundred ways the government gives out money.. .we are paying for you.  If you will accept the real responsibility for your lives, then I will listen.  Until you can all do that, you are rabble, you are NOT the 99%, you are barely the 1%, and you are an unproductive 1% at that.  If not for the TV and media coverage, you would be quite ignored, until you got cold and went home.  The city of New York has show great restraint in dealing with you.  It is fortunate that you did not bring your sit in- live in protest to my Midwest town.  Our citizens, and the police who work for them, would find other accommodations in our jail for you.  But you really know all this already, don’t you,  unless you are one of those foolish children who still read and believe their little red books and Che Guevara comic books.

Kidqueens
Kidqueens

Digger,

  I am a self-employed individual, I make a good living, and I want for little. I am fifty one years old, I started with a paper route in the early 1970's and I have been busy at work ever since. I have never done better than I am doing now.You can call me rabble if you like. You say the stockholders approved the mans pay package. Carl Icahn would tell you that that is a bunch of hogwash. The vast majority of stockholders have no real clue to what is going on, and anybody who own 1 or 2 percent of these companies can swing the vote in any direction they like. The board members all scratch each others backs and see to it that each of them is taken care of. A closely held company would never ever give away the store like that because the guy or gal at the top is watching his or her money. The country  must put an end to this type of conspiratorial theft at Public Companies. On the other hand I would unshackle and lower the taxes of all closely held or private companies. In addition I would roll back the heath care requirements for smaller closely held  companies. Public Companies raise billions of dollars and spend it on types of personal luxury, pay the upper echelon millions, and stick it to the working stiffs. They buy up all the good land, all the good seats at the ballgame, and secure the doors to every place that they work and live. Talk about entitlement they feel entitled to everything. I am all for people getting rich I am trying to do that to, but they could pay a guy a million or a million and a half for being at the top of the heap, there is absolutely no reason to pay these people 8 and 10 million on the way in and then on the way out again. 

Josh Borwn
Josh Borwn

It's not fair it's not even right but he was the one that negotiated and got that kind of contract and they agreed to it. It's really sad but very true

TheGameIsUp
TheGameIsUp

And because if we all just worked hard, we could be just like HP CEO and retire on other people's money?  Such a great role model:  go forth and make as much money as you can while producing nothing and then leave without taking any responsibility for failure since you'll get paid for it anyway, screwing customers, employees AND sharehoulders out of their hard-earned money.  What an inspirational American!

Employed
Employed

That's the point they either don't want to work (and have everything handed to them on a silver platter) or daddy's trust fund is taking care of them so they dont really care (not stopping to think about where that money came from). Get off your asses and get jobs!!!

Headfacemouth
Headfacemouth

In a world where it is so difficult to find a job, when people protest about not being able to find a job, you tell them to go find a job.  As if it made sense.   As if it weren't Kafka-esque.  As if you had some point to make, other than ignorant anger. 

guest
guest

Exactly!  Address the real problem. 

This "attack the 1%" is a faulty canard.  It is the 1% that actually pays 40 percent of the taxes.  Fifty percent of the people pay almost no taxes.  Those are the facts of the independent National Taxpayers Union.  So when people throw out this nonsense about the rich not paying their fair share they don't know what the heck they are talking about.If you agree to pay a student loan, guess what? You agreed to pay it.  So if you can't, that's your fault, not the fault of the "banks" or the evil rich.

If you object to the bailouts and I do, then focus on the proper problem, and don't comingle with every other entitlement issue.  Don't allow the issue to be cooped by people who want to destabilize the system.  

Icantsing
Icantsing

"Business isn't there." That is the point. Honestly, ask yourself "Why would my boss dump a bunch of people in the street?"  "Business isn't there." It takes a lot to run a business, also. Overhead, benefits (even the looming HealthCare costs), ... and yes, taxes. I'm not talking about the evil rich scrooge in Wall Street ... I'm talking the average business (or small business) ... employing 10-50 employees. They are fading, they are being squeezed. That is the REAL problem.

99Percenter
99Percenter

I guess you haven't taken a look around. I work in DC and have a good job. I also stand with the Occupy protesters. Jobs are not all around. The company I work for and the company my wife works for have both dumped a lot of people on the street. Business isn't there.

You need to get out and take a look at the real world instead of trying to decide what you're seeing through a computer screen.

Like Lions
Like Lions

There are more people than jobs in this country. The fact that you have one of those jobs doesn't make that fact any less true. Many employers won't hire people with degrees for the jobs you accuse these people of 'being too good for'. They prefer illegal immigrants because they can avoid paying taxes and SS/Medicare on them and because they can intimidate and exploit them. They aren't 'snot nose whiners (sic)'. They're Americans who have assessed their situation accurately and have chosen the recourse allowed (and encouraged!) by the founders of this country.

Employed
Employed

There are plenty of jobs out there, problem is these kids feel entitled and think they are too good to work most jobs. That is also the reason why we will never, ever get rid of illegal aliens in this country, because these little snot nose whiners refuse to mop a floor thinking its beneath them. Also shouldn't have racked up 100k of student loans on a social studies degree. Just saying!

marketing news
marketing news

The "Flea Party" (OWS) is missing the point.  Frustration is appropriate, but aim it where it belongs: squarely at the Obama Administration, who have stolen your jobs, stolen your future, stolen the control of your medical care and stolen your opportunities to succeed in this country.  Point the finger where it belongs, straight at Mr. Obama and his totalitarian policies, not at capitalism, which has produced the nice clothes you wear, the iPhone you carry, the Starbucks coffee you are drinking and the opportunity to voice your opinion.  Support those who have made this opportunity to commit the errors in observation and opinion you are voicing.

cgallaway2000
cgallaway2000

yes, yes, yes, blame all the debt and economic turmoil racked up before Obama was President on Obama....excellent. Smithers, bring me my celebratory slippers.

marketing news
marketing news

If you look closely I think you'll see you've been conned by campaign rhetoric.  If you can show me any policy generated by the Obama Administration which has made any improvements in our national economy - or in your personal economy - I'm happy to listen.  I have voted for many democrats and many republicans over the years.  As a small business owner myself I can tell you that my fellow business owners and I have seen direct evidence of increasing complications and difficulties in running our business as a direct result of Obama policies.  We are NOT rich people.  We are regular local business owners trying to keep our little communities afloat and employ good people and have a good life.  

guest
guest

And Margaret, the example you use which had nothing to do with Marketing News or anything he has done as a small business owner, which suggests you are just trying to demonize business owners while being insulting.    

guest
guest

Margaret,You clearly have missed the reports on Obama ok'ing a billion dollar bail out of the company Solyndra.  A billion dollars!  And that is not the only one. 

And you apparently have no problem with Obama's donations from Wall Street, which are reportedly greater than any prior president.  

Margaret Keller
Margaret Keller

And yet, you do not list one fact based example of any of this evidence of the difficulties you are seeing. I heard one guy tell me one of his hardships in his store, he was complaining that "Obama was making him move the toilet paper role so the cripples can reach it". He was very upset that disabled people had a right to wipe their ass if they use a public restroom. He insisted that moving the holder 6 inches was more of a hardship and that if the "Cripples" wanted to use the restroom in that way, they could do it at home.So, yeah, I've heard about your "complications and difficulties".

Dusanl
Dusanl

for markentig news,,,everithing is right exept it is not mr obama but mr bush ,,,,,

guest
guest

It wasn't Bush that gave a billion dollar bailout to Solyndra.

Icantsing
Icantsing

Even Biden said the Obama administration owns the economy. Guess Biden is listening to "FauxNews" also. Any more bumper stickers?

Dizcuzted
Dizcuzted

Please put down the FauxNews crack pipe, and slowly back away from the computer.

Greedywaterrabbitt
Greedywaterrabbitt

enough of the repub garbage A poor man voting repub is-is (like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders

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