Lloyd Kaufman on Scientology and South Park: Eric Sherman Did Ask Me about Trey Parker and Matt Stone

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Kaufman [Credit: Gerald Lerner]
UPDATE: Mark Ebner adds his own confirmation of OSA activity with a similar leaked Scientology document. Also, a private investigator describes sifting trash for the Church of Scientology.

Just got off the phone with Troma Studios founder Lloyd Kaufman, who says he's been getting a lot of calls since we reported this weekend that he is mentioned in Scientology documents which detail a retaliatory investigation of South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone.

In 2005, Parker and Stone aired "Trapped in the Closet," an episode of South Park that deeply embarrassed Scientology by mocking its upper-level teachings. By the spring of 2006, the formerly secret documents suggest, Scientology's Office of Special Affairs was overseeing a multi-pronged effort to retaliate against the animators by researching their public records, digging through their trash, and doing the same to their close friends and employees. In two different documents, mention is also made that Kaufman was pumped for information with the use of a longtime Scientologist and filmmaker named Eric Sherman.

This morning, Kaufman confirmed to me that in 2006, Sherman -- an old college classmate and longtime friend -- did call him up to ask about Parker and Stone.

"Eric Sherman did indeed call me. Now, he was next door to me at Yale, so he's an old friend and a good guy. And he's a filmmaker. He did ask me about Trey and Matt, but he didn't say anything about Scientology or that he was investigating," Kaufman said.

When I asked Kaufman if he realized that his old friend is a longtime Scientologist, he said, "Eric is a great guy. He's never mentioned Scientology to me." (Sherman's long record in the church is well documented, however.)

"All I remember is telling him that they were great guys and had reinvigorated American satire," Kaufman added. "Eric makes movies, and I got the sense he was interested in working with them."

Update: I should also point out that Kaufman told me that he did not give Sherman the name of any close friends to Parker and Stone. Although the OSA documents imply that Sherman turned over such names to Scientology -- such as John Stamos and Rebecca Romijn -- Kaufman insists that he not only didn't give those names to Sherman, he was really unfamiliar with either of the actors.

The formerly secret OSA documents, however, suggest that Sherman was gathering information about Parker and Stone to help Scientology's efforts to investigate the duo. We have made multiple attempts to reach Sherman and will continue to do so, but he has not replied. Parker and Stone, meanwhile, declined to be interviewed through a spokeswoman, who said they have no comment on the matter.

Kaufman is well known for Troma Studios and its low-budget satirical films such as the Toxic Avenger series, Class of Nuke 'Em High, and the more recent Terror Firmer, which featured Trey Parker.

"Even after they became stars, Trey acted in Terror Firmer. They've been totally generous with their time," Kaufman said. "I have only the greatest love and admiration for Trey Parker and Matt Stone, and they're among the most talented and admirable people in the entertainment industry. I'm glad Troma played a role in bringing them to the movie industry." (Before South Park began, Parker's film Cannibal! The Musical was distributed by Troma.)

I asked Kaufman about an OSA document which says that a student of Sherman, a young filmmaker, would try to use Kaufman to get an internship at South Park and become a mole for Scientology. Did he remember a young filmmaker being presented to him at that time?

"I can't tell you how many people want me to introduce them to Trey Parker and Matt Stone. Every day people ask me about them," Kaufman answered. He said there was no way he could remember a particular young filmmaker approaching him in 2006.

"The only point I want to make is that I love Trey and Matt, and that they've been totally loyal," he said. But when I asked him about his thoughts on Scientology, he couldn't help giving me a quip:

"They put a gag order on me. And when I woke up, Tom Cruise's penis was in my mouth."

Yeah, that's Lloyd Kaufman, a treasure to the independent film industry. (And next year, he points out, will be Troma's 40th year anniversary. I told him the Voice would definitely get back to him on that.)

He ended the conversation by telling me again how much he's been hearing from people in the last few days. "Troma's been around for 40 years. Samuel L. Jackson's first movie was a Troma picture...but if I got hit by a bus today, this thing about South Park would be on my gravestone," and he gave a laugh.


Update: Kaufman has now tweeted about this story...

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The Top 25 People Crippling Scientology
#1: L. Ron Hubbard
#2: David Miscavige
#3: Marty Rathbun
#4: Tom Cruise
#5: Joe Childs and Tom Tobin
#6: Anonymous
#7: Mark Bunker
#8: Mike Rinder
#9: Jason Beghe
#10: Lisa McPherson
#11: Nick Xenophon (and other public servants)
#12: Tommy Davis (and other hapless church executives)
#13: Janet Reitman (and other journalists)
#14: Tory Christman (and other noisy ex-Scientologists)
#15: Andreas Heldal-Lund (and other old time church critics)
#16: Marc and Claire Headley, escapees of the church's HQ
#17: Jefferson Hawkins, the man behind the TV volcano
#18: Amy Scobee, former Sea Org executive
#19: The Squirrel Busters (and the church's other thugs and goons)
#20: Trey Parker and Matt Stone (and other media figures)
#21: Kendrick Moxon, attorney for the church
#22: Jamie DeWolf (and other L. Ron Hubbard family members)
#23: Ken Dandar (and other attorneys who litigate against the church)
#24: David Touretzky (and other academics)
#25: Xenu, galactic overlord


Tony Ortega is the editor-in-chief of The Village Voice. Since 1995, he's been writing about Scientology at several publications.

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46 comments
Schockenawd
Schockenawd

Kaufman had the cajones to tweet about this?  Using the phrase "Scientology creeps"??  ... Hmm.  If you listen very carefully, you can hear the wheels of a new SP investigation starting to turn. 

You might wanna strap yourself in, Lloyd.  And burn your trash. 

Meishayuri
Meishayuri

You should have asked him if Cruise's penis tasted like coconut cake.

Scientia
Scientia

The IAS is in full force this week attempting to extract even more off-policy donations from the remaining UK public. The quota is $1million by Friday. (DM's 5k suits and fairy slippers clearly don't pay for themselves. Not when there are so many SP's dustbins to loot).

"You are making the difference with every contribution you make to the IAS it all goes behind a commited push to let the British public know what is really happening in our schools; our communities; and in our public and private institutions we have come to rely on where those SP's with authority work to keep the public pacified so we don't ask questions." -- from an (exceptionally well-written) email received 26/10/11.

More on the IAS in the UKbit DOT ly/w3WrJa

hgc
hgc

Funny. I think the British public might already know what's happening in the communities where they live and in the schools where their kids go every day. But if a bunch of weirdos infested with invisible space aliens want to tell them what it's all about, then terrific!

If you see the video where a Scientology audio tape, played in courtroom, explains to concerned parents what hell-holes their child's school is so that they can approve dropping out to join the Sea Org, you get the idea. 

JustCallMeMary
JustCallMeMary

What most people do not realize is that Scientology is at war with the world as we know it, and that scientologists are heavily indoctrinated into the belief that their eternity rests on their participation in helping to 'Clear the planet', which includes elimination at any cost of perceived enemies to that goal. The church sets out rules on who is and isn't an enemy by virture of ones response to scientology. The church also requires members reach out into society, infiltrate it with scientology practices and gain allegiances with 'opinion leaders' - people in that particular sphere of society - be it a company,a neighborhood, a group or a field of employment - with the express goal of using them to gain footholds further into the area so they can spread the word and make scientologists of those within that place or area or sphere. For a scientologist, this is a deadly serious game because L Ron Hubbard told them it was and since members are repeatedly subjected to reading Hubbard's words on this matter, members transform into dedicated Ronbots, willing to do whatever it takes when the pressure is brought to bear on them from the church to do their share of the work in society. So, for example, you have the Scientologist who works for a particular airlines giving out private information to the church legal affairs office on when so and so ' the enemy' is about to arrive and on what flight and airline so he or she can be followed or harassed by the staff member or private investigator hired by the church to dig up dirt on so and so. Or you have, in the case of scientologist Eric Sherman, the pressure from Scientology to find out information on Parker and Stone from an mutual old friend, Lloyd Kaufman, even though Sherman has not ever mentioned to Kaufman that he's involved in scientology - which is telling in itself.

One can only wonder at the outcome of that friendship but this story and Kaufman's response is certainly a coup for the 'enemies' of Scientology, the critics and the world that Scientology is at war with. This is the kind of stuff that takes the wind out of the cult's sails. Exposing these 'church' activities, the abuses, the damaged lives and families and informing the world about them is our only weapon. This is done by concerned people who see how dangerous this organization is. This is why we protest, we write, we speak up and share what we know. The media is so essential to this. Thank you Tony Ortega and The Village Voice for your relentless pursuit of getting the facts out and exposing the cult of scientology.

And thank you to Lloyd Kaufman for having such a good sense of humor despite all that happened unawares until now. Eric Sherman may not know what a good friend he has but hopefully he will in due time.

MarkEbner
MarkEbner

Lloyd Kaufman is a stand up guy, which explains his 40 improbable years in the business. And if you're reading this Lloyd, what I want inscribed on my headstone is, "He consulted on the Emmy award nominated "Trapped In The Closet" episode of South Park." Sincerely, John Smith.

Marcotai
Marcotai

It's very interesting the fact that those self-appointed "critics of SCN" have build a 'reality" that they are desperately trying to spread which pretends to convince people that there are few thousands of Scientologists left on this planet. LOLYet, those same "critics' are desperately spending a great amount of their life to attack them and their religion. I mean... what the hell is wrong with those 'critics'?

MissCabbage
MissCabbage

It's very interesting the fact that those Scientologists have built a 'reality" that they are desperately trying to convince people that there are more than few thousands of Scientologists left on this planet. LOLYet, those Squirrel Busters are desperately spending a great amount of their life to attack 'critics' of their religion. I mean... what the hell is wrong with those 'Scientologists and Squirrel Busters'?

Carmen
Carmen

What the hell is wrong with Scientology that it pulls in such dedicated critics?

LoyalOfficer
LoyalOfficer

You have it reversed. $ciloontology is desperate and spending great amounts of parishioners money to attack the critics. As the cult continue to dwindle and increasingly becomes under investigation and increasingly recognized as a criminal entity the cult will be forced to expend even greater amounts and will probably lash out it even more ugly and criminal ways. BTW your body thetans noticed you have some money, you need to get audited!

Jgg
Jgg

  They can't stand an organization that hurts people, that's what is wrong with them.  By the way, can you show me one way Scientology has helped you?

LeeAnneClark
LeeAnneClark

It's very interesting the fact that those self-appointed "critics of people who aren't batshit crazy" have build a 'reality" that they are desperately trying to spread which pretends to convince people that there are more than a few thousand Scientologists left on this planet. LOLZ! Yet, those same "batshit-crazy critics' are desperately spending a great amount of their time posting nonsensical, unreadable blatherings trying to defend their so-called "religion." I mean... what the hell is wrong with those 'batshit crazy critics'? And how does one "self-appoint" oneself?

Carmen
Carmen

It sounds kind of creepy and perverted. Like, "Go appoint yourself, Marcotai!"

Or a bullying thing, "Stop appointing yourself!"

LeeAnneClark
LeeAnneClark

"Stop appointing yourself, or you'll go blind!"

hgc
hgc

If critics were not self-appointed, then who would appoint them? Come one, NumbNutz, proofread your work to see if it makes sense before clicking to post. 

NCSP
NCSP

So as long as it's only a few thousand people victimizing others and/or being victimized in an abusive system, it's not worth making a fuss about? Exactly how many people need to be involved in a criminal enterprise for it to be worth taking notice of?

What's that about you guys being the most ethical people on the planet?

robinlandseadel
robinlandseadel

My experience is that CO$ is incompatible with consensus reality.

The data is there in the form of the quality of responses you receive—everyone knows you're a blithering idiot, it's there in the quality [or lack thereof] of your writing. Because you are so consistently self-destructive in your posts I have to assume you're some sort of masochist.

CO$ has a number of felonies on its hands. The cult may be tiny and shrinking, but the intent is savage, the methods brutal and the funds ripped off from "Congregants" are still sustaining your tiny, morally crippled leader and his illusion of growth. But the reality is that there are more and more people every day who feel the need to shut down the operation. Those most vocal on this subject are ex-members of the cult that snapped out of it long enough to escape. It's only a matter of time, you know.

But the data is out there.

Again, CO$ is incompatible with consensus reality.

LeeAnneClark
LeeAnneClark

Classic $cn response to Graham Berry's announcement about the White House petition:

"As recent news accounts have shown, the new 'We the People' initiative cannot take seriously the ample number of off-the-wall, easily-manipulated petitions initially generated like the anti-Scientology petition. Petitions that have been submitted to 'We the People' include demands to legalize prostitution, legalize marijuana, to change the motto of the United States, and to proclaim a World Psoriasis Day.

"Not surprisingly, these petitions have become the butt of numerous jokes by comics and sarcastic articles and have unfortunately polluted the White House's efforts to raise serious issues. Tellingly, the White House earlier this month raised the threshold from 5,000 to 25,000 signatures within 30 days.  In short, the petition to investigate Scientology should be taken as seriously as the petition to "form a presidential commission to investigate the covert use of mind control technologies on American citizens."

We could have scripted that one ourselves. Nothing about whether or not the charges are actually true. Attack, never defend, right?

robinlandseadel
robinlandseadel

What Sci-Loons fail to grasp is that they always repeat the same crap. Anybody paying attention can spot the moronic regularity with which they spout the same talking points—all easily verified as outright lies. The CO$ is out of touch with the real world and has no idea of how big a disconnect they have from the general public.

Just like the Corporatists.

Marc Abian
Marc Abian

In short, the petition to investigate Scientology should be taken as seriously as the petition to "form a presidential commission to investigate the covert use of mind control technologies on American citizens."

Interesting.  Isn't a "covert use of mind control" technology almost exactly the description that the Church of Scientology applies to psychiatry?

JustCallMeMary
JustCallMeMary

Link please

LeeAnneClark
LeeAnneClark

I got it off the link posted by Myriam Breitman above:

www dot americansuperstarmag dot com slash celebrity-news/petition-to-the-white-house-calls-for-investigation-into-the-church-of-scientology

MarkStark
MarkStark

Sciloontology is as 'merican as a brainwashed mom, Xenu pie, and the dead space alien infested girl next door.

Tilman
Tilman

Eric Sherman did do dirty work for scientology once before, google Eric Sherman Delirious or search for these words in a news database.

JustCallMeMary
JustCallMeMary

Oh Tilman, you are a gem!

(Fair Use Excerpt)The poorer and famous Hollywood ScientologistsJohn H. Richardson - Catch a Rising Star -- Premiere, September 1993[..] SOME OF SCIENTOLOGY'S MOST FERVENT EFFORTS seem to go toward preventing--or quashing--bad publicity. In 1990 Universal Pictures made a film with John Candy called Delirious, directed by Tom Mankiewicz and produced by Richard Donner, director of the Lethal Weapon series. In it, Emma Samms mused to her screen brother about Candy's "strange power" over her. "It's like I don't have a will of my own," she said. "Do you think he's a Scientologist?" the brother asked. "After the first rough cut Tom and I started getting letters and phone calls," Donner says. "They were saccharine, but there was an underlying threat." "It was clearly orchestrated," Mankiewicz recalls. "One letter to Dick, cc: Tom Mankiewicz. Then the next day, one to Tom Mankiewicz, cc: Dick Donner. Then two a day. They never stopped; they got worse. The tone got angrier, to the point of 'How would you feel if he was a Jew?'" Donner has a few of the letters still in his files. "You may be aware of some of my books on films and the film industry," one begins, "including Directing the Film and Selling Your Film. Also, I have been directing my own pictures for twenty years, including the upcoming PBS twelve-part series Futures featuring Jaime Escalante. I'm writing to you because I've heard that in your new production, there is a reference to Scientology, my religion, which is derogatory." The letter ends by invoking the names of Scientology celebrities: "I'm sure my colleagues--Kirstie Alley, John Travolta, Milton Katselas, Floyd Mutrux, Anne Archer, Chick Corea, and others--will join me in thanking you for taking this step on behalf of intellectual honesty. Sincerely, Eric Sherman." The other letters are strikingly similar. One from Moe Howard's grandson Jeffrey Scott (who helped develop Jim Henson's Muppet Babies) begins with this introduction: "You do not know me directly, but indirectly I am responsible for approving the use of Three Stooges clips in your Lethal Weapon series...." "It finally got to be something really strange--they just wouldn't stop," Mankiewicz says. And when he and Donner ignored the letters, there was concern about a lawsuit. "The lawyer said, 'They have no case, but the chances are fifty-fifty they'll take you to court. How important is this to you?'" Donner and Mankiewicz still stalled, testing the film, feeling "First Amendment outrage." But gradually things began to escalate, initially with threatening, anonymous phone calls--"then Tom's house was broken into," Donner recalls. "Nothing was taken, but things were moved around, drawers turned upside down. It was, like, 'We can get into your house.' He went to the police, told them about the threats, but there was no way of pinning it down." Mankiewicz refuses to comment about either the threatening phone calls or the break-in, saying there was no evidence to link them to Scientology. But Donner and Mankiewicz decided to lose the gag. "We all felt a little cheaper for having cut the line," Mankiewicz says now. "It was such an innocuous little joke--a tiny pinprick. God help you if the Catholic church felt like that and you made Sister Act." The Delirious campaign was not an isolated incident.....[..]  h t t p : / / w w w . bible. ca/scientology-poor-famous-members dot htm

LeeAnneClark
LeeAnneClark

Wow. Just....wow. This is an amazing story, and needs more press! Tony...this one deserves its own article!

Brainslugged
Brainslugged

As unsurprising as this story is to all of us here, this is great news because once again the cult is shooting itself in the feet through it's creepy, immoral and illegal actions. The best bit? This morning being sent a link to a news article about this from a friend who doesn't have an interest in $cientology, but knows that I do. This news is reaching a huge audience, and nothing will destroy the cult quicker than the simple truth about what sort of organization it really is, and what their tax-exempt dollars are being spent on.

Hurr Durr
Hurr Durr

Nothing like the smell of coffee and burnt ButtChurch in the morning.

Anon A
Anon A

>>"[Eric Sherman] did ask me about Trey and Matt, but he didn't say anything about Scientology or that he was investigating," Kaufman said.<<

Unfortunately, what one can deduce from this statement is that if you have a Scientologist friend who seems like a "great guy", he will still do whatever needs to be done to gather the intel that his Scientology leaders task him to do.  Even if doing so means exploiting your friendship.

After all, when you're 'clearing the planet' for Scientology, you have to use any means to discredit the SPs that stand in the way!

mjm
mjm

Graham Berry just issued a press release regarding the WH petition

MarthaWiggins
MarthaWiggins

Um, wanna point to it?  Give us a clue, ok?

Myriam Breitman
Myriam Breitman

Scientology were very quick to respond to this press release, which shows that Graham Berry got their attention. Go to www dot americansuperstarmag dot com slash celebrity-news/petition-to-the-white-house-calls-for-investigation-into-the-church-of-scientology

rosie
rosie

Anon is putting out the release to various media.  It was sent to Tony first.

mjm
mjm

WWP and ESMB might have a link to it.

MarkStark
MarkStark

Scilon Eric Sherman wants to make a film with Parker and Stone like David Miscavige wants to be in Mark Bunker's film.

Myriam Breitman
Myriam Breitman

That's a pretty funny image, Miscavige being interviewed by Mark Bunker. Actually, it's a pretty funny image to have DM be interivewed by anyone.

LeeAnneClark
LeeAnneClark

Tony, when all the "big media" wakes up, grows some balls and takes on this dangerous criminal cult, we will be able to say "oh, yeah, Tony Ortega - we've been following him and his brave stories on Scientology forever!" :-) And make no mistake - it WILL happen. All of these stories are just too juicy for other media to ignore...they're just pussies and are waiting until they're convinced the coast is clear. It won't be long now before they realize that there's no teeth left in the beast...only mewling, hairless little rats like Marcotai and Mark Miglio. Oh, and a batshit crazy, psychopathic midget who likes to play musical chairs.

Carmen
Carmen

Hey! That's not fair! I like little hairless rats! Marcotai and Miglio are of the mollusc family, gloppy creatures that loll around in shells all day, slurping up everything unwary enough to wander in too close. Or fall for the "Free Stress Tests" they offer out on the mud flats.

Hairless rats rock. Molluscs sulk in their own slime and exploit whatever happens by.

rosie
rosie

You know, when this is all done, I can see sitting down and having cake with a chagrined Mark Miglio.  Marcotai, on the other hand, I think we would still have to have him sit in the back of the class and throw spit balls at him as I don't know if he has too many redeemable human qualities left.

MarthaWiggins
MarthaWiggins

I agree that Tony is doing a remarkable job bringing all the $cn criminal behavior to light, but let's be fair:  Time Magazine, CNN, Tobin and Childs, ABC and CBS are not exactly small-time media.  Plenty of "big media" have exposed the cult of $cn and have been doing it for a long time.  And just for this story about the South Park creators, there have been about 75 other outlets picking it up, including the Washington Post and Reuters.  No, they didn't break the story, but at least now they're talking about it -- more exposure is ALWAYS a good thing.

LeeAnneClark
LeeAnneClark

Agree, and I don't mean to ignore the great reporting of those other sources. Tony, however, takes a special place at the top for his continued focus and depth of detail. His "Top 25" list is epic just on its own! Tobin & Childs are also heroes. As for the outlets picking up Tony's South Park stories - yeah, that's exactly what I mean, and it's GREAT! This may be the angle that was needed - something that can grab the attention of the news-inundated public.

$cn is a complex topic, and it can be difficult to explain their abuses in a  few short sentences before the ADHD-afflicted readers get bored and move on to the next story about Brangelina. But the South Park stuff could just be the key to get them to read a little more, and realize the truth. Let's hope!

MarthaWiggins
MarthaWiggins

It's also important to remember how few people in the world actually know about $cn.  I'm usually sort of stunned when I talk to folks about it to find that they've never heard of it and they've never read anything about it and, for the most part, they're not too very interested in it.  When I tell stories about being involved in the cult of $cn, people generally listen politely, make the correct face of awe or sympathy, but they have other, more pressing, things on their minds.  Perhaps the same could be said for the media -- there really are more pressing things.  For us $cn watchers/critics/exes, there's nothing more important than bringing down this pernicious, vile, immoral, crazy organization.  Some of us want to see DM dragged off to prison (and some of us want M&M included). I'm impatient -- I want it NOW.

NCSP
NCSP

Good for him! Loyal to his friend but honest about what happened. And vulgar as always! Tom Cruise should be so lucky.

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