Rightbloggers Double Down on the Second Coming of Herman Cain

tomt200.jpgMonths ago, rightbloggers were celebrating the rise of Herman Cain. Then they grew restless, and moved on to Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry, and Chris Christie, each of whom disappointed.

Now Cain is back, hilariously leading in some GOP Presidential polls and winning some straw polls, too. Cain is probably the opponent Obama would most like to face: he has announced his intention to tax the poor, he doesn't seem to know much about the job of President, and -- a fatal flaw for a Republican 2012 candidate -- he's not white and thus cannot excite the GOP's important white racist constituency.

But his surge in polls has stirred the brethren, who explain to their readers that it doesn't matter that Cain is totally unqualified -- he pisses off "experts" and liberals, and that's what counts.

Cain's status has also been boosted by the cooperation of a news-hungry reporters and insecure columnists; e.g., stats expert Nate Silver took a why-ask-me attitude toward the candidate's Presidential chances ("while I think the conventional wisdom is probably right about Mr. Cain, it is irresponsible not to account for the distinct and practical possibility... that it might be wrong").

Rightbloggers seized the moment, finding in the new Cain boomlet a chance to shake off the doldrums of the uninspiring 2012 race.

"OK, so [Cain's] not an expert at foreign policy and prefers catchy slogans to wonkish details," said Robert Stacy McCain. "He's shown a knack for getting himself tangled up in controversy while improvising answers to questions about issues where most Republicans have well-thought-out positions..."

But so what? "And yet -- and yet -- Cain's strengths are greater than his weaknesses," claimed McCain. "Herman Cain has enormous potential as a candidate and despite all his flaws and failures he is, after all, winning. As I said the other day, victory tends to become its own argument."

Actually so far Cain has won only some polls, but that's enough to excite McCain, who said to all those snooty elitists who don't take Cain seriously, "People sometimes forget that about politics: Events matter." And a phone or straw poll or press conference is an event, just like a primary or convention vote. Quit being so judgmental.

Michael Barone admitted that Cain showed "prodigious ignorance on some important foreign policy and domestic issues," but again, so what? Like McCain, Barone saw taking Cain seriously as a boldly counterintuitive move, part of a "revolt against the experts," which Barone said had been going on since Vietnam, when "confidence in leaders and respect for expertise fell," and has continued ever since because everything America does is a crap-fest, including (surprisingly) the Iraq War that Barone used to think was terrific.

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Why the hell not -- Trump's not running anymore.
Besides, added Barone, Obama is just as bad: in 2008, he was "a candidate with minimal experience in either foreign or domestic policy and no executive experience at all." Obama had been a state and U.S. Senator, of course, and has never said anything half as ridiculous as what Cain says every couple of days, but we take the point: America is doomed, why not elect a nut? Maybe Cain can make that his campaign slogan.

Though he found Cain "an angry old dude spouting dumbass crap," Ace of Spades also took time to lambaste the "elites" who found Cain unserious. "They are incapable of seeing beyond their own biases," he sniffed. "They listen only to themselves, to people expressing pretty much the same opinions they do... If you're inclined against [Cain], you should take him seriously, and stop singing the song of the 'experts' (who don't know what they're talking about) that he could never be nominated so why bother even thinking about it much at all?"

At SabrePoint, Robert Ringer said that while "I'm sure there's a lot of historical evidence to back up [Cain critics'] lack-of-money-and-staff argument, I don't think they understand the mood of the average American today. They are victims of what I call the Paradigm Restriction."

Basically, Ringer meant people are stuck in old evidence-based ways of thinking: "The idea that Herman Cain can't win because of his lack of financial support is based on a pre-Tea Party view of the world," he said. "People are angry, and the more they are told that someone like Herman Cain can't win because of a lack of funds and/or staff, the more determined they are to prove the pundits wrong."

Apparently a big part of Cain's appeal is that intelligent people don't believe in him, and by supporting Cain citizens can show that guy who was always raising his hand in their 9th grade Algebra class that he's not as smart as he thinks.

Cain has also unleashed some bizarre internet ads that have garnered a lot of attention, sort of like Carly Fiorina's famous "Demon Sheep" ad and other such hey-lookit-me efforts by desperate future losers. Rightbloggers seized on the head-scratching over these ads as signs of their effectiveness.


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jimdav2002
jimdav2002

HE IS RISEN ... unless that story about illegal campaign financing isn't just a nasty rumor ... in which case HE IS A FELON.

Stogie Chomper
Stogie Chomper

Ah yes, we would be so much better off with the radical college sophomore who  is now destroying the economy and saddling future generations with huge piles of debt.  Who needs jobs anyway?

I'm convinced.

Barry_D
Barry_D

"Having far less to protect than Nate Silver, we will say here and now that Herman Cain will not be the Republican Presidential nominee in 2012. The Vice-Presidential nomination is another story. In fact, as Mitt Romney's ascension grows more likely, it is almost certain that the ticket will have to be balanced -- an uninspiring trimmer at the top, a charismatic rightwing fire-breather in the #2 slot to keep the true believers aboard. It didn't work in 2008, but with the present, persistently crap economy it's worth trying again."

It won't be Cain, it will be a hard-core firebreathing rightwing Evangelical (with a capital 'E').Romney will need that for demormonization, so to speak.

Synykyl
Synykyl

Cain has the same problem the rest of the Republican candidates have: the more you get to know him, the less you like him. If he wanted to win, he should have waited until the last possible moment to enter the race ... or maybe even longer.

Substance McGravitas
Substance McGravitas

"Things have gone from bad to badder for the self-righteous artsy-fartsy elites, who for all their book-learning and self-regard just can't figure out America," said Wesley Pruden at the Washington Times.

Snobs!  What is required is the wisdom of the Founding Fathers, who didn't know their asses from a hole in the ground.

Folks are dumb where I come from, They ain't had any learning. Still they're happy as can be Doin' what comes naturally Folks like us could never fuss With schools and books and learning. Still we've gone from A to Z, Doin' what comes naturallyYou don't have to know how to read or write When you're bombing a Muslim in the pale moonlight. You don't have to look in a book to find What a rich guy does to get his pockets lined. That comes naturally!

Tom M
Tom M

Roy says In fact, it strikes us now that most of the Republicans allegedly running for President have actually been running for for the Sarah Palin role -- which is a good gig in any case....

You hit upon it at last; none of these so called candidates want to win, they want the Sarah Palin money spot. It is why she ran and the only reason she threatens to run: to keep that river of rube royalties rolling. Hell, if they won, they would have to govern which is hard work and pays crap.

Robert Frano
Robert Frano

I imagine the following...Mr.  & Mrs. Barack O'Bama, sitting 'round the breakfast nook as the maids get their daughters ready for school, at 1600 Pennsylvania Av., Washington, D.C., (circa: early 2013)...

Michelle: "But honey, you promised to tweet all those 'thank you's' by next weekend..."

Barack, sipping his first 'Jack Daniel’s' pint, o' the day, speaking in 'early morning presidential' tone: "Michelle, I'm busy with 'affairs, of state'. I will thank my 'closet' constituents, all those who did so much, so tirlessly, for our re-election campaign, as soon as possible, whether by tweet, e/m, v-mail, post card, carrier pigeon, 13th. century knight-errant, on holy quest, vagobond minstril, or... Whatever...I will NOT let down the likes of 'Diamond-Newt' Gringrich, 'Closet-Homo' Santorum, 'Quitter' Palin, {Note to presidential self: Remind/re-thank 'Quitter', re how many people were relieved / over-joy’d, by her recent 'repeat-quit'!}, 'Wrong-Rain-Dance' Perry, 'Who knew/WTF’d I was running?' Huntsman & ‘Job_Exporter’ Romney".

merl1
merl1

I hope like hell that Cain gets the nomination just to see the rightwingers excuses for why he lost all 50 states. And explain why they didn't vote for him.

Mkeegan1968
Mkeegan1968

I support Cain 100%. He is the best GOP, and while not a registered republican, I am independant, and lean a bit to the right. Cain is the best candidate we have to date. A fair tax across the board has been copied by rick perry and a few independant and liberterarian candidates. While each is different in there own plan, I support a FLAT TAX. If the POOR pay WHATEVER PERCENT of their income on taxes, SO SHOULD THE RICH PAY an EQUAL PERCENTAGE of INCOME of thier riches. That way everybody pays same tax %. The Fact that poor and middleclass should pay 10% and the RICH should pay 40% is IDEOCRACY! How is that fair? What is this robinhood? steal from the rich and give to the poor? NOT RIGHT ANY WAY YOU SLICE IT!

Big Bad Bald Bastard
Big Bad Bald Bastard

"People are angry, and the more they are told that someone like Herman Cain can't win because of a lack of funds and/or staff, the more determined they are to prove the pundits wrong."

But are they determined to donate money and time to the campaign?

Big Bad Bald Bastard
Big Bad Bald Bastard

"Though he found Cain "an angry old dude spouting dumbass crap"

In other words, a kindred spirit.

mds
mds

"... which was a shock to us, because we didn't know Reagan was black."

Well, to be fair to Pruden, when Reagan was preparing for his nod-and-a-wink "states' rights" campaign speech in Philadelphia, Mississippi, he apparently considered appearing in blackface, but even Lee Atwater thought that would be overselling.

jimintampa
jimintampa

The whole point of Herman Cain is to be the Koch Bro's stalking horse; just keep repeating the same tired sh*t to keep the Tea Party rubes in the house and the media focused on the crazy, not the venal.  That's why there's no Cain for President apparatus - he's a Koch Brothers employee, not a candidate.

ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©

The idea that Herman Cain can't win because of his lack of financial support is based on a pre-Tea Party view of the world," he said.

Starting my week with a hearty guffaw.~

McSalmon
McSalmon

Are we positive that he was actually a CEO of a pizza chain? Listening to clips of Cain talking has me thinking that, after a bizarre and rambling interview, the board was too scared to tell him he wasn't hired. So, they put him in an office with a phone that didn't work and told him that was the special CEO room. I can even see the hazing of new VPs in having to give a presentation to him before letting him in on the joke.

I wish they'd let us in on it too, someday.

jimintampa
jimintampa

Funny how all those AA-friendly loans, pushed by the banks through complicit preachers and churches, somehow caused the greatest erosion in African American net worth in history.  Must be eleventy-dimensional chess.

McSalmon
McSalmon

I had no idea that so many bankers were radical college sophomores. When did that happen, Rush Week?

mds
mds

But surely for that same reason, a firebreathing rightwing Evangelical wouldn't take the job, if it meant being subordinate to someone that so many conservative Christians consider a cultist.  For American fundamentalists, religious principle always trumps temporal power .... Hahahahahaha, sorry, couldn't keep it up.

glenn
glenn

You're right about that.

And it's just another example of why Cain isn't qualified to be President. Inability to strategerize.

horatius
horatius

Better imagination please.....

gocart mozart
gocart mozart

I'm sure it will be something like "Because the racist black wouldn't vote for him."

reallysmall fish
reallysmall fish

Robin Hood, throughout history known as the prototypical bad guy. 

Al Swearengen
Al Swearengen

I hope Jesus comes back and kicks you, and everyone who thinks like you, right in your greedy nuts.

Time to stop coddling you greedy assholes and call you out as the moneygrubbing whores you are.  People first, your fucking money second.

zuzu
zuzu

Great!  Then the rich can pay the same percentage of their income as the poor do, when all taxes are taken into account.  Income tax (state, local and federal), payroll tax, property tax, sin tax, sales tax, use tax, utility fees, etc., etc.).  

Which means that in every state other than Vermont, the taxes of the rich will go up.  We'll get right on that!  http://thinkprogress.org/speci...

glenn
glenn

I think you misspelled IDIOT-CRACY!

jimintampa
jimintampa

Progressive taxation is not 'stealing from the rich and giving to the poor.'  The 1% that controls 40% of the wealth should pay 40% to protect their sh*t from foreign troops, thieves, fires and environmental damage.  It's their sh*t and we shouldn't have to pay to protect it.

merl1
merl1

Are they willing to vote for a black man?

gocart mozart
gocart mozart

In fairness, Alice's worlview was drastically changed by a Tea Party.

Glock H. Palin, Esq.
Glock H. Palin, Esq.

Yes, because everybody knows the Tea Party was all about not having financial support from deep pocketed backers.

Roy T.
Roy T.

A pre-Tea Party view of the world: sort of like a pre-coffee view of the morning?

gocart mozart
gocart mozart

I heard that he was really the CEO of a Kenyan pizza chain.

glenn
glenn

He was for about two years. He basically pulled a Romney for Pillsbury - they bought out the chain, and brought Cain in to close stores and fire people.

Dontbugme384
Dontbugme384

He was a mathematician for the us navy before he completed his MBA. You are a racist f@@k.

Stogie Chomper
Stogie Chomper

Bankers didn't destroy the economy, the Democratic Party did.  Beginning with the Clinton Administration, they forced banks (under the threat of litigation) to begin making bad mortgage loans on an affirmative action basis rather than on the basis of good credit and an ability to repay.  Long story short, that caused the subprime mortgage market, the housing bubble which finally burst, wiping out many banks, with the financial carnage rippling across the economy like a tidal wave.  The current recession from hell is a Democrat produced phenomenon.  President Zero is continuing to push banks to continue making these bad loans.  

If you want prosperity and a future, you had best vote Republican.  

commie atheist
commie atheist

I believe the "self-mocking post" was first perfected on Redstate.com in 2007.  Since then there have been minor tweaks and improvements, but the classic form was basically set by that point.  However, Mkeegan1968's "I'm a slightly right-leaning independent and I favor the flat tax because it's FAIR!" does have a certain something something. 

Leeds man
Leeds man

See Jim, that's the sort of reality-based argument that gives us lefties a bad name. Shame on you.

Leeds man
Leeds man

He was a mathematician for the us navy before he completed his MBA.

According to wikipedia, he was a ballistics analyst. That's some pretty serious ass-play right there.

merl1
merl1

The Navy has mathemeticians?  Why? And since when? Is their symbol a plus sign? You are one dumb fucker.

Glock H. Palin, Esq.
Glock H. Palin, Esq.

 Yes, how dare we base our opinions of his intelligence and aptitude on the things he says. Don't we know that's RACIST?!

McSalmon
McSalmon

How does a mathematician develop such a massive piece of wankery like the 9-9-9 plan? Herman Cain has not shown me anything apart from muddled weirdness in the form of a talking point, and I don't see how he could have taken this style of leadership and run a business with it. Has nothing to do with his being black, but it does have everything to do with how simply crazy he seems. If it's any consolation, at least he isn't any worse than Bachmann and Santorum, and perhaps marginally better in that he doesn't seem to believe God is guiding his hand in human affairs.

However, I am sorry that my comment forced you into an impotent rage at it's unfairness to a man who has received equal misgivings from rightbloggers, the press, and the public at large. My bad.

Becky Becky Becky Becky
Becky Becky Becky Becky

(Furthermore, he doesn't have an MBA but a master's in computer science. [Source: The biography on his campaign Web site])

Becky Becky Becky Becky
Becky Becky Becky Becky

McSalmon didn't mention, or even hint at, Cain's race, and gave a concrete reason for making fun of him. How do you get that s/he's a racist whatever from that comment?

(Clarifying something for readers of your comment who my assume otherwise: Cain was only a civilian employee of the Navy, not actually in the Navy.)

mommadillo
mommadillo

Nobody gives a fuck about your opinion, shithead.  Piss off.  Go back to Freeperville where your kind of stupidity is welcomed.

jimdav2002
jimdav2002

Banks didn't spend decades & megabucks to pressure Congress into deregulation that would then allow them to sell hundreds of billions' worth of useless crap to small investors as AAA goods & bet short on it, knowing damn well that it'd turn into a steaming pile of turds & thus make them a fortune from others' misery ... oh, wait, now that I think of it, THEY TOTALLY DID.

Also, the current recession from hell is a credit-lender/multinational produced phenomenon: they don't WANT a recovery, because with microtrading (& many of the same accountancy tricks that spawned Teh Great Bait-&-Switch Of 2008) they're making tons more money now then they ever did during the "boom" - & all that delicious unemployment keeps wages nice & cheap.

Synykyl
Synykyl

... If you want prosperity and a future, you had best vote Republican ...

If you want prosperity and a future that's the last thing you should do. In the long term, even the rich are screwing themselves if they vote Republican.

McSalmon
McSalmon

Funny that all those middle class white people went underwater on their houses too - were the banks forced to give them loans on AA as well? Or did they apply in black face?

I would also like to know how it is that banks making speculative deals on loans they knew were fraudulent made things any better. I mean, for us, that is. I know it worked out great for the bankers, until the whole thing went pop. Of course, to ignore the Republican complicity in these actions is quite a blind spot, or possibly a sublime act of charity for a party so keenly interested in continuing to deregulate a banking system that is rife with fraud and base level greed. But, I suppose like attracts like.

If you want everyone to prosper and have a future, we ought to address that instead. Unfortunately, we are being treated to a carnival freakshow of crazy running for the GOP nom, all of whom promoting a plan to make these same people who profited the most from this economic debacle even richer. Forgive me, but I saw that movie, and didn't like the ending much.

commie atheist
commie atheist

You're stupid, you're a liar, and you stink like cheap cigars.  Fat, stinky and stupid is no way to go through life, son. 

Oh, and not that you care, but here's a pretty thorough refutation of your bullshit talking points:

http://politicalcorrection.org...

jimintampa
jimintampa

If you don't live with reality, it'll come live with you.

Barry_D
Barry_D

"How does a mathematician develop such a massive piece of wankery like the 9-9-9 plan?"

It's not wankery, it's BS to fool people into losing even more money.

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