Occupy Wall Street: Actually Sort of Good for the Cops?

Along with Mayor Bloomberg's recent sentiments that "protests that are trying to destroy the jobs of working people in this city aren't productive" comes a slightly different, still employment-based, perspective, which is the NYPD's recent announcement that Occupy Wall Street has cost taxpayers $2 million in police overtime. While the NYPD (and the Daily News) seem to be billing this as a waste of taxpayer money, sure to get many of those taxpayers riled up against the movement, this stat also means that cops are making a healthy bit of overtime pay with Occupy Wall Street.

This is especially interesting in light of Occupy Wall Street's sometimes supportive (we're with you, etc.) /sometimes antagonistic (fuck the cops!) relationship -- depending on which protester you talk to, and which police officers, and when and where -- with the NYPD. If the protest is putting money in the hands of NYPD officers, keeping them well-employed, has the protest won, or lost?

Police Commissioner Ray Kelly basically defended the use of pepper spray and batons by NYPD to "control rowdy crowds," pointing to a group that "tried to storm police barricades" at Wall Street and Broadway after the march on Wednesday. NYPD spokesman Paul Browne added that cops have a right to use force and defend themselves when they're being charged.

"They locked their arms. They counted down - 10, 9, 8, 7, 6. Then they decided to charge the police. That is going to be met with some physical force," Kelly said.

Meanwhile, videos like the white-shirted cop going to town on protesters with his baton (above) and the other NYPD officer who said "My little nightstick's gonna get a workout tonight," continue to circulate. Overtime pay and getting to beat up hippies? It's like Christmas. Except not.

Occupy Wall Street costing taxpayers $2 million in police overtime - and counting - NYPD says [NYDN]

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Sakara
Sakara

bunch of snot nose mostly WHITE college kids goofing off in between classes, with a number of them in various videos having their book bags on their backs.

these protests are very much a white college fad.

none of these gringos have the guts or brains to protest against the billion dollar heroin cartel that is responsible for cutting off people's heads in mexico.

TJHillgardner
TJHillgardner

The billion dollar heroin cartel could be eliminated in a minute if government removed its head from its posterior and realized that prohibition is a failure.  End prohibition, legalize trade, and the illegal drug cartels would be gone overnight.  Your logic about heroin is about as sound as your logic about Wall Street.

Sakara
Sakara

ok, legalize heroin---though not even 1960s hippys liked junkies---but if anybody stoopid enough to use heroin gets addicted, no govt money for them to get off; ok?

rampent heroin use is strictly a recent, last 10 years thing, with stoopid people taking heroin the way 60s/70s crowd smoked grass or drank booze.  even back in the 1980s almost no pot smoker/coke user bothered with heroin.

the very same people who love capitalistic heroin sellers are against wall street capitalists; typical hypocracy.

nygrump
nygrump

Does your post of hate make you feel powerful? And why should the wall street protestors be responsible for the troubles in Mexico. We all know it is a direct result of the so called drug war and prohibition

Sakara
Sakara

do the dumb kids protesting think anything will come from their protest...besides a republican elected president?

ok now to blame wall street for everything when liberals allowed poor people massive loans to buy rural mansions they couldn't afford; all the greedy non-wall street people who maxed out their credit cards while the going was good are partly to blame for wall street collapse.

and leave it to liberals to never, ever, want to hear anything bad about drug dealers...!  heroin and cocaine dealers are the salt of the earth---liberal motto.

StokeyBob
StokeyBob

The root reason for the, “Occupy er’s” and the “99% er’s”. Gaze upon it if you dare. Maybe this will help make the danger of fiat money clear. Imagine you and me are setting across from each other. We create enough money to represent all of the world's wealth. Each oneof us has one SUPER Dollar in front of him. You own half of everything and so do I. I'm the government though. I get bribed into creating a Central Bank.You're not doing what I want you to be doing so I print up myself eight more SUPER Dollars to manipulate you with. All of a sudden your SUPER Dollar only represents one tenth of the wealth of the world! That isn't the only thing though. You need to get busy and get to work because YOU'VE BEEN STIFFED with the bill for the money I PRINTED UP to get YOU TO DO what I WANTED. That to me represents what has been happening to the economy, and us, and why so many of our occupations just can't keep up with the fake money presses.

some1
some1

Actually, in many of these videos I found the iPhone 4 to be quite popular amongst the protesters. Ahh hypocrisy.

Al Swearengen
Al Swearengen

Oh no, you found the fatal flaw that will bring the whole movement crashing down!  A hippie used a smart phone.  Victory for the 1% and their rightwing tools!

If only the protesters had thought to only use cave-painting or those old-timey box cameras that use piles of flash powder on little platforms.  Then maybe we could have done something about the unaccountable white-collar criminal cocksuckers (George Carlin's term) that own and run the world.

Sakara
Sakara

your "hippy" description says a lot----since even in the 1960s most hippies were from affluent families.

none (?) of the wall street protesters are actually poor, and 99 percent of them are white----you'd be the first one calling racism if such a white bread bunch were tea party protesters.

none of these hippies will ever protest against the billion dollar heroin cartel, cause you can bet your last peso some of them are future junkies.

BobF
BobF

Actually you make a good point for capitalism, if it wasn't for it, we would still be using cave dwelling drawings and yes flash poweder for our gox cameras.  Ps the 1% pay 37% of all the tax revenue, Wall st pays 40% of all NYC tax revenue As far as the 99% are concerned, they are not the 99%,I am, the people who get up at 5:00 AM get home at 7:30, pay huge school taxes, fund my own healthcare and retirement, i don't have the luxury of going downtown and protesting like spoiled children whom their parents gave everything to. 

Al Swearengen
Al Swearengen

Blah, blah, pull some %s out of my ass, blah.  Your #s are selective bullshit because your taxes are a tiny % of your overall income compared to normal people, Richie Rich.

If it's really such a fucking burden, go Galt.  Set your income and taxes to 0.  You won't do that, will you, because even with your oh-so-huge tax burden, you're still rich.

And you're not the only person that works in the world, ingrate.  You're making a huge mistake thinking that only the people on the street in lower Manhattan think this way.  I'm at work, a long way from there.

BobF
BobF

I was reviewing the 19 or so demands published from whomever in this group.  As I was doing that I was thinking of Steve Jobs and wondering how it would be possible for a man like Jobs to be such a success and bring great products out under an enviornment that many of these protestors would like to see, which basically is an end to capitalism and private incentive to make a profit. 

Cvan
Cvan

Jobs would largely not be able to produce his products without a huge and necessary heft in price which would result from 1) Not mining in the Congo.  2) Not making them in sweatshop factories in China.  That would be a good thing for Americans and the world, because right now we are getting an unrealistic cost, socially and otherwise.

Al Swearengen
Al Swearengen

Yes, because Steve Jobs not only designed each and every part of every Apple product, he also personally set up the chip dies in the fab, watched each line to make sure everything ran smoothly, cooked lunch in the company cafeteria, and mopped out the bathrooms at the end of the day.

I've got nothing against Jobs.  I feel for his family and friends on their loss, but this hagiography where he gets ALL the credit for everything good Apple has ever created is ludicrous.  It's the embodiment of our 1% problem.

The billionaire at the top gets all the money, all the glory, all the credit.  The people actually doing the work, the 1,000s of engineers, industrial designers, software engineers, marketers, QA testers, custodians, their contributions get ignored.  It is bullshit.

But not as much bullshit as "end to capitalism and private incentive to make a profit" just because we think the business climate in this country has gone off the rails. Please, go Galt. Don't let the door hit you in the ass.

All you hero Randians are like sulky, depressed teens. Threatening to take your own lives, imagining the weeping at your own funerals. Actually we'll throw a party on your departure. Yay! One less entitled business asshole!

Because there's plenty of us non-assholes who know how to close a month, or file a 10C, or run a computerized trading system. We'll be fine. You won't be missed.

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