Scientology Leader David Miscavige Fed Gourmet Meals Every Few Hours: Australian TV

Interesting Scientology news coming out of Australia in this piece which aired during what were the wee hours here for us this morning.

Australia's Bryan Seymour has produced some of that country's biggest scoops about Scientology in recent years, and he has a diverting item in this Today Tonight piece about Lana Mitchell, who helped to lavish gourmet meals on Scientology leader David Miscavige at the church's secretive desert headquarters in California -- until, that is, she was accused of feeding a bad shrimp to Tom Cruise, and as a result lost her job, lost her family, and lost her friends.

Mitchell was a Sea Org member for 15 years, one of the hardcore Scientologists who sign contracts promising to work for the church for a billion years, lifetime after lifetime.

After working at several different posts, by 2003 she had become a cook at "Int," the sprawling, 700-acre international headquarters of the church in the California desert Scientology leader David Miscavige calls home.

Last year, Mitchell first surfaced to tell publicly some of her story at Marty Rathbun's blog, where many other longtime church members are making public their own stories of disaffection with Miscavige and the official church.

Mitchell explained that she had left the church in 2004 and was now part of the growing independent Scientology movement. But in that blog item, she didn't go into detail about what caused her fall from grace at the Int headquarters: "I will not at this time include a long account of how I came to be declared," she wrote.

Now, she's apparently changed her mind. In her interview with Seymour, she explains that as Miscavige's cook, it was her job to lavish on the church leader gourmet meals every few hours, and especially when Miscavige's good friend Tom Cruise showed up.

But when Cruise got food poisoning from a bad shrimp, Mitchell says she was unfairly blamed, and found herself cut off not only from her job, but also from her friends and family.

From the Today Tonight web version of the story:

"I was given no opportunity to defend myself. They needed a head on a pike, as they call it, they needed someone to shoot. Tom Cruise got food poisoning, somebody needed to go so ... that was the end of me at the International Headquarters of Scientology. "I was sent to hard labour," Mitchell said.

Seymour points out that Mitchell's punishment for supposedly poisoning Cruise happened about the time, 2004, that Cruise was receiving a "medal of valor" from Miscavige for his contributions to Scientology. (A video interview of Cruise, produced for the ceremony when he received the International Association of Scientologists' Freedom Medal of Valor, would go on, in 2008, to be leaked and create a sensation on the Internet.)

While Cruise was being feted, Mitchell was cut off from everything she had known for 15 years.

"Every phone call is listened to, every letter is read, in and out -- it gets to a point that people really have nobody left to go to in many cases. In my view it's a violation of human rights," she told Seymour.

Seymour also heard from Australian Senator Nick Xenophon about the matter:

"Not only was Lana's treatment bizarre, it was shocking and unacceptable," said Independent Federal Senator Nick Xenophon, who has long campaigned against Scientology's abuses. Even he has been appalled by its leader's lavish lifestyle. "How is it that these cult leaders can live in absolute luxury whereas their followers live in poverty?" Xenophon asked.

Seymour also asked your humble narrator to contribute to the piece, and yours truly pointed out that Katie Holmes has a reason to be concerned that her husband's church has so consistently retaliated in extreme ways not only with people like Lana Mitchell, but also to people outside the church -- the South Park revelations being a salient example of that.

Seymour also quoted me saying that Scientology workers "expect to be abused," and I wanted to put a little context to that: I was referring to basic Scientology training, which includes subjecting new recruits to routines which have them attempting not to flinch as they are screamed at. This "bull baiting" is intended to instill in Scientologists a flat affect, so that they can endure heaps of abuse without reacting. And from the testimony we are hearing from many ex-Scientologists who reached the church's highest levels, Scientology executives get plenty of verbal and even physical abuse in their jobs.

As I put it in a recent story about Miscavige:

When you take into consideration that Scientologists are indoctrinated, practically from the first day, to accept verbal abuse as a normal consequence of their spiritual enlightenment, you begin to understand just how intolerable Miscavige must be: he's chasing off people who had resigned themselves to being poorly fed, paid almost nothing, housed with no privacy, punished like prison inmates, and screamed at constantly over the lives of their billion-year contracts. When these people tell you their boss is an asshole, it really means something!

So here, from Australia, another voice is added to that chorus. Mitchell says Miscavige was treated "like royalty," fed lavish meals around the clock, and when something upset the tummy of Tom Cruise, someone had to pay.

Your tax dollars at work.


UPDATE: Seymour has put the entire transcript of his interview with Mitchell online.

Feast on this highlight, in which Mitchell describes what it was like to feed Scientology's diminutive leader:

"I was put into the kitchens to work and for several years, some three years. I worked in the unit that serviced, that cooked for David Misgavige, his wife and his entourage as well as his guests."

"We used to cook meals for him every two and a half hours. there was to be a meal prepared and served and ready every two and half hours, fitting to a specific calorie intake, certain amount of fat, certain amount of carbohydrate, certain amount of protein, all very highly regulated but it had to be the best of the best."

"We‟re talking organic chicken breast, we‟re talking Atlantic Salmon flown in fresh, we‟re talking the best materials that are available. The only lamb we ever got was the corn fed lamb from New Zealand."

"We used to spend over a thousand dollars, this is in early two thousand, we spend over $1000 a week just on the food order to service this handful of individuals."
"(at the same time staff were getting paid) $50 a week, but often not that because often we‟d already be on reduced pay or some of our pay would be taken to for gifts for Executives or for Christmas or whatever."

Read the rest of the transcript here.

Oh, almost forgot. Here is Scientology spokeswoman Karin Pouw's response, with the usual stuff about unprecedented expansion, yadda yadda yadda.


The Top 25 People Crippling Scientology
#1: L. Ron Hubbard
#2: David Miscavige
#3: Marty Rathbun
#4: Tom Cruise
#5: Joe Childs and Tom Tobin
#6: Anonymous
#7: Mark Bunker
#8: Mike Rinder
#9: Jason Beghe
#10: Lisa McPherson
#11: Nick Xenophon (and other public servants)
#12: Tommy Davis (and other hapless church executives)
#13: Janet Reitman (and other journalists)
#14: Tory Christman (and other noisy ex-Scientologists)
#15: Andreas Heldal-Lund (and other old time church critics)
#16: Marc and Claire Headley, escapees of the church's HQ
#17: Jefferson Hawkins, the man behind the TV volcano
#18: Amy Scobee, former Sea Org executive
#19: The Squirrel Busters (and the church's other thugs and goons)
#20: Trey Parker and Matt Stone (and other media figures)
#21: Kendrick Moxon, attorney for the church
#22: Jamie DeWolf (and other L. Ron Hubbard family members)
#23: Ken Dandar (and other attorneys who litigate against the church)
#24: David Touretzky (and other academics)
#25: Xenu, galactic overlord


Tony Ortega is the editor-in-chief of The Village Voice. Since 1995, he's been writing about Scientology at several publications.

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83 comments
Jgg
Jgg

  Why do they make a big deal over one parishioner getting poison shrimp but are not at all concerned when over 1,000 were exposed to asbestos on the Freewinds?

TomFoolery
TomFoolery

How the hell does anyone know for sure that the source of Tom Cruise's malady was a (presumably single) shrimp? That's nothing but a wild guess -- and obviously a politically-crafted one, made to try to justify how the world's "most dedicated Scientologist" (and therefore presumably one of the healthiest) could possibly have been the only person in the room to fall ill.

Politics aside, someone might want to inform Miscavige that one of the most common causes of gastroenteritis is from the consumption of contaminated ice. If "spare no expense" Dave were really concerned about his friend Tom's delicate constitution, he might want to consider that Robert Almblad's clean-ice machine - which he launched an all-out crusade to kill -  might very well have prevented that whole nasty episode.

Strelnikov
Strelnikov

I like how the "creepy" music at the beginning sounds like a distaff version of "The Thing" theme by Ennio Morricone.

All I can say about Lana Mitchell is she got off easy; nobody knows what happened to Heber Jentzsch. Is he at Twin Peaks? Is he out at Hemet? Did the RPF drive him to madness? Is he dead? Silence. And that silence is the worst of it because it means nobody cares.

Rumpelstiltskin
Rumpelstiltskin

It wasn't a "poison" shrimp. It was a shrimp that went off in the defrost process. It can happen easily enough when thawing under running water

Jgg
Jgg

  Davey IS a poisonous shrimp.

LeeAnneClark
LeeAnneClark

See? See? I TOLD ya we can have so much fun with the "bad shrimp" phrase! :-D

Jgg
Jgg

It's certainly food for thought. Celebs who oppose Scientology get an icy reception in Hollywood, so they clam up and do not come out of their shell. The rest seem phony--they snowball you with hype, butter you up, but deep down are ice cold. Tony has cracked open some good info, and gotten to the meat of the matter. His coverage was very full. As for Scientology, they dish out abuse, but they will have to swallow the truth and fork over money in damages. They will need to scratch and claw, and put everything on the table. What did Lee Anne say?

Ronald Watts
Ronald Watts

While I like to see them taking it to the Scilons, Today Tonight isn't really that great of a source to bring it. They're barely above a tabloid, talk radio and Fox News, really.

Maybe I've seen too much Chaser, so I just can't get too excited about Today Tonight doing something right for a change.

MarkStark
MarkStark

You've got to admire their editing though:

"I definitely think he's lost touch with reality" Lana says, referring to Miscavige, and they cut to Cruise laughing like a nut.

Some of their pieces have been terrific. They pull out the greatest clips and their segues are cheesy delicious.

Tabloid and Sciloontology are made for each other: Woman delivers own baby while skydiving...Xenu nuked volcanoes and scattered body thetans cult claims...Woman does hard labor and cut off from family after poisoning Tom Cruise with shrimp...Squirrel Busters invade Texas town to harass ex-cult nut.

Jgg
Jgg

  LRH cured his own blindness.  Reading dictionaries cured TC's dyslexia.  One one-hour auditing session cured Kirstie's drug addiction.  Co$ is rummaging through SP's trash.

  Wait a sec, one of these was true.

TheEviIOfScientology
TheEviIOfScientology

How can such a superhuman Thetan as Tom Cruise become sick, just from eating a dodgy prawn? Surely with such mighty OT powers, Tom could munch his way through a whole smorgasbord of filth-ridden,  rotting food, without so much as stray fart?

Carmen
Carmen

The prawn was suppressive. When an OT encounters an SP, his amazing powerz simply drain away. That's why they have to get rid of suppression.

They are helpless to oppose it.

GarryS
GarryS

Did the offensive shrimp also have to wear heel lifts?

Quentin Hubbard
Quentin Hubbard

The shrimp were not spoiled, they contained some evil Body Thetans which attacked Tom Cruise's stomach and intestines. 

Xenu
Xenu

You just stumbled onto what Marty's been running on his PCs, the latest in creative processing.

"Mock up thousands of body thetans.""Now put them in DM's lunch."

Marcotai
Marcotai

"Dear Mr. Seymour  I have received your ELEVENTH-HOUR questions concerning a SHOW you intend to air within hours.  Best journalistic practices require providing someone a meaningful opportunity to respond.  It is clear you have no interest whatsoever in our answers and that you never intended to give the Church a chance to respond to the unsupported and untrue allegations you and Mrs. Mitchell raise."

To a rational person that statement above says it all about the true intentions of the $enator's puppet Seymour. :)

 

Guest
Guest

A rational person would know that a Scientology representative like yourself would never accept blame or even give straight answers but would blame the victim and/or try to change the subject to psychiatry or Ingo Swann.

Scientia
Scientia

"The more lies you use in PR the more likely it is that the PR will recoil. Thus the law: NEVER USE LIES IN PR." -- LRH, HCO PL 13 August 1970, Issue II, The Missing Ingredient. Tommy Davis claimed on live television that there was no enforced disconnection within the Co$. This was a lie. Linda Wieland claimed the "squirrel busters" were simply a random group of independent "parishioners" filming their own unofficial documentary. This, again, was a lie. Fact: The Co$ lies. Fact: You support an organisation that lies. Fact: You support liars. "False data can cause one to make stupid mistakes. It can even block one from absorbing true data. One can solve the problems of existence only when he has true data. If those around one lie to him or her, one is led into making errors and his survival potential is reduced." -- LRH, from The Way To Happiness.

Yeppir
Yeppir

Marky-Marc, what makes you think the "statement" you refer to from your $limo buddies is true? Just because they say it?

...yeah. That's what I thought.

Take one deep breath and let yourself just think about that. Please, won't you?

robinlandseadel
robinlandseadel

It is clear that a rational person would have no interest in your answers, pasta-boy.

Meishayuri
Meishayuri

Aw, poor Marcotai.  He's wishing he ate so good since he's swallowing Cruise's coconut cake.  There is no shame in spitting, y'know.

GarryS
GarryS

To a rational person that statement above says it all about the true intentions of the $cientology's sad excuse for a puppet Marcotai. :)

Red_Zone
Red_Zone

Thank you, Tony!

Another downstat this week. Boy, this is becoming monotonous!

robinlandseadel
robinlandseadel

Karin Pouw,

I read your response to Bryan Seymour  

It is obvious that you are full of shit. Everyone knows how your criminal enterprise is shrinking. No one believes any of your lies. 

I fully expect that we will not be hearing any official CO$ pronouncements from you in the very near future. That's the way your organization works—shoot the messenger.

It isn't working Karin. You really should know better.

Jgg
Jgg

  Tony, what's at stake is that Co$ cannot be tax exempt if it's not non-profit; and its notnon-profit if Davey benefits by it, as he obviously does.  Someone should let the IRS KNOW.

mjm
mjm

the IRS does know and is doing nothing about it because the cult has pals in DC like Greta Van Susteren's "hubby"

mjm
mjm

here's more of the Co$'s pals in Congress:Former Rep. Ben Gilman, R-N.YBrad Sherman, D-Calif., and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla.Mark FoleySarah Palin (pals w/ Van Susteren and John Coale)Diane FeinsteinSharron AngleJeff StoneJames E. Rogan, Superior Court of California judgeRep. Dan Burton, R-Ind.Rep. Loretta Sanchez, D-Calif.Rep. Brad Sherman, D-Calif.Rep. Diane Watson, D-Calif.Rep. Danny Davis, D-Ill. (also a "pal" of Farrakhan and Rev. Moon)Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan.Rep. John Sweeney, R-N.Y.Rep. Dylan Glenn, R-Ga.

CofS Exit Zone
CofS Exit Zone

Karin Pouw's rebuttal statement on Seymour's story amuses me almost as much as the thought of Miscavige freaking out that his BFF boy-toy Tom Cruise got sick over bad shrimp. It sounds like that statement from the Church must have came in at the very last minute, which is a pity...

I wish Brian would of had a chance to touch on whether or not it was truly sent in the "eleventh-hour" and gotten a followup remark from Lana on the 2nd bullet point about her trying to rejoin the Church in 2010 (since surely that's skewed in the way Pouw portrays it).

Davescomm
Davescomm

"Tried to rejoin the church" probably means "We tracked her down and tried to coerce her".

CofS Exit Zone
CofS Exit Zone

Actually, I was thinking more along the line of "trying to get my family back" but it didn't work like they falsely led her to believe.

PattyMoher
PattyMoher

This is just fabulous entheta!  The kind that really goes up DM and TC's ass!  You have just been added to the # of minutes of entheta (video) media stat, you evil bastard!  Not only that, but you're an absolute gorgeous creature that the camera loves.  I'll be sure to write a Commendation Chit to your Ethics File and cc: big pharma, the evil psyches and the 12 International Bankers. 

LeeAnneClark
LeeAnneClark

"Bad shrimp"...OMG the opportunities for plays on that phrase are endless. (e.g. We know Tom had a bad shrimp for dinner...but did he dine ON it, or WITH it?) hahahahahahahaaa.............

Carmen
Carmen

That wasn't a shrimp. It was Baby Cthulhu. No wonder Cruise got sick.

Jgg
Jgg

  TC should eat clams.  LRH never said anything about shrimp, just as he never said anything about asbestos, like they had on Freewinds.

Davescomm
Davescomm

You are literate! I Googled Cthulhu - a very apt and appropriate description for a "bad shrimp" indeed.

Sid
Sid

When Tom Cruise jet-sets around the world promoting his current movies he gives a ton of interviews to fawning "journalists", who are given a list of subject matter over which he will not answer questions, including Scientology.

I wish one day someone would grow a pair and ask him "So Tom, how do you feel about the fact that someone was disconnected from their family after serving you bad shrimp, and what about those allegations of inurement?"

mjm
mjm

did they tease at the end "who will be the next celebrity to leave Scientology?"

hmmm...

MarkStark
MarkStark

Who and what will be the next celebrity poisoning at a Scientology meal? Ricin Beans, Mad Cow Steak Tartare. They don't call 'em disgruntled psycho apostates for nothing.

Guest11
Guest11

Second time watching the video -- unfortunate that Lana's explanation of dm as a psychopath is because "in a cold and calculating way he is destroying my religion"

Who can watch this video here or see the broadcast on Australian TV and even imagine that THIS IS a religion?

It's far better, in my view, to simply stop calling it a religion UNTIL dm is gone. 

Once he who has caused immeasurable harm to scientology is gone -- then perhaps religion might be used again in describing scientology.

Now it's just known as a wacky, now crazy and dangerous cult.

sketto
sketto

Nah. It was wacky and cultish long before Miscavige hit the scene. When he's gone it will just be wacky and cultish with a new leader. But it's latent evilness, designed by L Ron Hubbard to put Scientology's interests above the interests and happiness of families, will always be there.

Robert Peterson
Robert Peterson

Thanks Tony for serving up this tasty morsel; the perfect fare to start my day with. I could appreciate it even more if I was a lowly Sea Org member eating rice and beans because my stats were down.

sketto
sketto

Apparently you don't buy the theory that it's all Miscavige's fault, which Rathbun's Indies love to pretend.

Vistaril
Vistaril

While Lana has my sympathy, I can't see anything in her tale that is outside of Scientology tech and/or the personal example of L Ron Hubbard.

veritas
veritas

maybe they should send the next Top Chef crew to hemet!

sketto
sketto

Yes. Call it Escape From Top Chef: Hemet.

MarkStark
MarkStark

For Xenu's sake, in my book, Lana should have gotten a "medal of valor" for serving up a poison prawn to Tom Cruise, even if she didn't do it on purpose. The delight this story will bring to millions!

And how come Tom Cruise didn't "know." "You just know," except for bad shrimp?

It's not every escaped Sea Org member who can say they got out because they gave Tom Cruise the shits.

James K.
James K.

Everytime I hear or read about Tom Cruise I can't help but think of twenty-year old Kyle Brennan and his family. Thank you, Mark for providing the great visual imagery to go along with the story!    

Feb 20th I got this anonymous message in my personal guest book: Quote:"Tragic death in down town clearwater of kyle brennan. died for support of tom cruises anti- psych believes"

mirele
mirele

Yeah, where were Tom Cruise's vaunted OT powerz? If we needed an example of how bogus the "church" of $cientology's claims of superhuman abilities are, this is it. Cruise should have been able to detect and avoid the bad shrimp. Instead, he found hiimself praising the porcelain goddess a few hours later and then using his connection to DM to get a woman put on RPF. F*** you, Tom, and I mean that most sincerely.

robinlandseadel
robinlandseadel

I know a lady who "scans" food with her hands.

She wouldn't even think of putting a crustacean in her mouth.

Sid
Sid

Bust my barnacles, she sounds crabby. Still, I agree it's unfair to krill these animals.

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