Scientology Sunday Service: Your Thanksgiving Week Open Thread!

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We have some especially good Sunday Funnies for you this week as we open up a thread for our loyal readers to jabber on about whatever they want.

We figured they better be good Funnies, because chances are Tobin and Childs are sucking up all the attention in the Scientology watching world this morning with the next installment on their epic new series. (And if so, how happy we will be, actually.)

So on we go to the latest images from our friends at Scientology, who come up with such creative ways to beg for cash, or hard labor, or whatever...

First up, there's this especially cute appeal to San Diego Scientologists who are feeling like helping out by spending their holiday cleaning up org files. (Sounds like fun!)

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Speaking of San Diego, what are they drinking down there? I mean, if they're not asking you to sift through their central files, look how enticing they make it sound to become an auditor...

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"Impossible hours." Yeah, and happy holidays to you too, Commodore!

Anyway, that should get the juices flowing. Finish up that cup of Sunday morning coffee and have at it in our comments section. You know you want to!


The Top 25 People Crippling Scientology
#1: L. Ron Hubbard
#2: David Miscavige
#3: Marty Rathbun
#4: Tom Cruise
#5: Joe Childs and Tom Tobin
#6: Anonymous
#7: Mark Bunker
#8: Mike Rinder
#9: Jason Beghe
#10: Lisa McPherson
#11: Nick Xenophon (and other public servants)
#12: Tommy Davis (and other hapless church executives)
#13: Janet Reitman (and other journalists)
#14: Tory Christman (and other noisy ex-Scientologists)
#15: Andreas Heldal-Lund (and other old time church critics)
#16: Marc and Claire Headley, escapees of the church's HQ
#17: Jefferson Hawkins, the man behind the TV volcano
#18: Amy Scobee, former Sea Org executive
#19: The Squirrel Busters (and the church's other thugs and goons)
#20: Trey Parker and Matt Stone (and other media figures)
#21: Kendrick Moxon, attorney for the church
#22: Jamie DeWolf (and other L. Ron Hubbard family members)
#23: Ken Dandar (and other attorneys who litigate against the church)
#24: David Touretzky (and other academics)
#25: Xenu, galactic overlord


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SCIENTOLOGY IN THE VILLAGE VOICE

[All recent stories] | [Top 25 People Crippling Scientology] | [Commenters of the Week] [Thursday 2pm Stats!] | [Scientology vs. South Park]

FEATURED INVESTIGATIONS

[Scientology spokesman Tommy Davis secretly recorded discussing "disconnection"]
[Tom Cruise and Baby Suri embarrassed by news item, so someone must pay]
[Benjamin Ring, LA deputy sheriff, wants you to spend your 401K on Scientology]
[Scientologists: How many of them are there, anyway?]
[Scientology hates clean ice: The "Fair Game" operation that should turn your stomach]
[Scientology hates clean ice, part 2: Another target, and the web as weapon]

MARTY RATHBUN AND THE SIEGE OF SOUTH TEXAS

[Scientology has Rathbun arrested] | [Rathbun and Mark Bunker reveal surprising ties]
In Germany with Ursula Caberta: [Announcing plans] | [Press conference] | [Making news about Tom Cruise, Bill Clinton, and Tony Blair] | [Post-trip interview]
The Squirrel Busters: [Goons with cameras on their heads] | [Rathbun's open letter to neighbors] | [Ingleside on the Bay, Texas rallies to Rathbun's cause] | [Squirrel Buster's claim to be making a "documentary"] | [VIDEO: "On a Boat"] | ["Anna" sent to creep out Monique Rathbun] | [Squirrel Busters go hillbilly] | [A videographer blows the whistle on the goon squad] | [Ed Bryan, OT VIII, shows the power of Scientology's highest levels]

SCIENTOLOGY SPYING AND "FAIR GAME"

[Secret Scientology documents spell out spying operation against Marc Headley]
[Scientology's West U.S. spies list revealed] | [Scientology's enemies list: Are you on it?]
Spy operation against Washington Post writer Richard Leiby: [Part 1] | [Part 2]
[A Scientology spy comes clean: Paulien Lombard's remarkable public confession]
[Scientology advertises for writers in Freedom magazine]
[Accidental leak shows Scientology spy wing plans to "handle" the Voice]
[Lori Hodgson and Disconnection: "No one's going to take my eternity away"]

SCIENTOLOGY AND CELEBRITIES

["Tom Cruise told me to talk to a bottle"] | [Tom Cruise likes coconut cake] | [Tom Cruise has a sense of humor] | ["Tom Cruise not a kook!"] | [Paulette Cooper on Tom Cruise]
[Paul Haggis, director of Crash, issues an ultimatum, leaves the church]
[Character actor Jason Beghe defects noisily] | [Actor Michael Fairman reveals his "suppressive person" declaration] | [Michael Fairman talks to the Voice]
[Giovanni Ribisi as David Koresh: Scientology-Branch Davidian link makes sense]
[Russell Brand weds ex-Scientologists in wild ceremony] | [Skip Press on Haggis]
[Placido Domingo Jr.: Scientology's retaliation is "scary and pathetic"]
Grant Cardone, NatGeo's "Turnaround King": [Doing Scientology's dirty work?] | [Milton Katselas complained about Cardone's smear job] | [Cardone runs to Huffpo]
[Philip Boyd, Saving Grace actor, rips "the business that is Scientology"]

JANET REITMAN'S INSIDE SCIENTOLOGY

[Our review of Inside Scientology] | [An interview with Janet Reitman] | [A report from Reitman's first book tour appearance] | [At the Half-King: Reitman not afraid]
[Scientology doesn't like Inside Scientology] | [Q&A at Washington Post]
[A roundup of Reitman's print reviews, and why isn't she on television more?]

HUGH URBAN'S THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY

[A review of Urban's scholarly history of the church] | [An interview with Hugh Urban]

EX-SCIENTOLOGISTS SPEAK OUT

[Marc Headley: "Tom Cruise told me to talk to a bottle"] | [The Nancy Many interview]
[Sympathy for the Devil: Tory Christman's Story] | [Jeff Hawkins' Counterfeit Dreams]
[86 Million Thin Dimes: The Lawrence Wollersheim Saga] | [Mike Rinder on spying]

OVERSEAS NEWS

[Scientology dodges a bullet in Australia] | [Scientology exec Jan Eastgate arrested]
[All hell breaks loose in Israel] | [Scientology sees fundraising gold in the UK riots]
[Aussie former rugby pro Chris Guider calls David Miscavige "toxic" and "violent"]
[Stephen Cox, UK church newbie, pledges 20K pounds] | [Biggi Reichert: A German Lisa McPherson?] | [The Birmingham trove: 7,000 internal e-mails]
[Australian farmer blamed for giving Tom Cruise a bad shrimp, loses her friends, family]

ODD VIDEOS AND ODDER NEWS

[Scientology singalong, "We Stand Tall"] | [Captain Bill Robertson and "Galactic Patrol"]
[Scientology wins a major award!] | [Scientology wants your money: Meet Dede!]
[Birmingham in the House! The "Ideal" dance mix] | [Scientology and the Nation of Islam]
[When Scientology was hip] | [Sad: David Miscavige makes fun of his own fundraisers]
[Freedom magazine parodies The New Yorker. Hilarity ensues.]
[Scientology surf report: Anonymous parties outside the New York "org"]

THE VIEW INSIDE THE BUBBLE

[A scientologist's letter to the Voice and its readers] | [Scientology silent birth]
[Tad Reeves: Scientology might listen to this guy] | [More Tad Reeves and family]
[Scientology never forgets: A heartwarming telemarketing holiday miracle]
[Scientology High School, Dating and Super Powers!]


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31 comments
Old OT7
Old OT7

At last It's finally and completely out in the open.  Courses are no longer important.  Auditing is no longer important.  As Tom Cruise so famously shouted in Jerry McGuire, "Show me the money!"  Yep, the church of the Greenback as made public that their true God is money.  It is, and always has been, all about the money.  At least now they admit it.

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

"You spiel your guts out at a DOP,'' Plahuta said. "You tell him everything that's upsetting you, everything you want to handle."

She added: "It was not confidential by any means. I could tell you who the child molesters are. … The guy naked under the raincoat, exposing himself, the people who have had affairs.''

No wonder people are afraid to leave the cult!

V for Vacation
V for Vacation

What does that mean, "...the greatest push in the last 2500 years"...? What happened 2500 years ago in CoS mythology?

Windorsegallery
Windorsegallery

Does anyone know anything about Harriet Foster, wife of Dave Foster FSO reg?

Also, anyone know anything about Steve Lederman, Designer of the original beanbag? Started in Scn circa 1974 at CCLA. Close friend of Stanley Clarke, world famous base player was part of Chick Coreas group. Have heard Stanley is touring again with Chick.

Am trying to find Annie Taskett who married Steve after she left the SO around 1982.

Not sure if Steve is in or out.

Thanks

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

If the scilons are suppose to be saving earth, why aren't they campaigning against the war,like they do against *Big Pharma* and *Mental Health* ???????????

Why aren't they feeding the hungry around the world?

Why are they having a Thanksgiving event at the San Diego org? When they should be opening soup kitchens for hungry families. Or passing out free turkeys.

Scientia
Scientia

Please could somebody help me. I'm trying to find a copy of the MV event where DM happily admits to selling out to Prozac manufacturer, Eli Lilly. 1999 or 2000 methinx. Anyone know if it's online?

Reasonable_Insanity
Reasonable_Insanity

The greatest push in 2500 years??

I wonder what e-meters looked like back then. Two rocks with vines wrapped around leading to another rock.

Huh.

Endscientologynow
Endscientologynow

I bet they stole that picture from somewhere.  Or used stuffed pets.  I cannot imagine that the Scilon slaves have enough time to properly take care of a pet.

Ron
Ron

In San Diego, isn't the rundown campus that they bought to be the Ideal Org back on the market again? I guess the members lost their "investment", but it's no skin of Miscavige's nose.

MarkStark
MarkStark

That photo is too cute for a cult, but I still don't want to be a Scilon, even if it means getting to paw through their files for the holidays. I suspect it is a bait and switch, and you really end up cleaning the e-meter grease trap -- the fat from fried brains causes a nasty buildup over time -- or picking dirt balls out of the carpet.

My thoughts this Sunday are with Brian Culkin, my fixation of late, because I think his video and story have so much potential. This morning, he's leaving some comments at the SP Times article, trying to get some ARC with a shillbot sock, over philosophy (groan), Hubbard tech, and that the articles about the intense money squeeze being true.

I think Brian has the resources, fortitude, intelligence and background to be a force in the critical movement. I don't know if it will play out that way, but it could. He's got strength, because he wasn't crushed by the cult, beaten down, indoctrinated for years or ruined financially. He didn't do any dirty work for them. And he's still young. I hope that over the next few weeks, people from the major media see his video. It is perfect for a sound bite, yet has deep resonance: It's all about the money.

JustCallMeMary
JustCallMeMary

Being that it's sunday. I would like to ask readers to please take a moment to meditate, pray, ponder - what ever your choice - for the loved ones of Gabriel W Graves, Narconon's latest victim, along with others who have died or become ill or injured while seeking adddiction help at a Narconon in the US and in Canada.

Narconon of Oklahoma is a Deadly Place Novenber 14, 2011

This is the story of two men who attended Narconon Arrowhead last month. Both became ill. One finally managed to leave but not until after the death of the other. The details of one leads to the details of the other and while more information is pending on the death, there is enough available to give you an idea of what was happening and why Narconon Arrowhead needs to be investigated and shut down.... ( read on for more)http://narconon.blogspot.com/2...

JustCallMeMary
JustCallMeMary

Wow! Lets hope no one showed up to help in Central Files because that just means more unwanted mail going out to people who want nothing further to do with Scientology.

Chuck Beatty
Chuck Beatty

It's those types of Hubbard quotations that hook a lot of followers into Hubbard's world.  Countless people wanted to be Auditors (therapists of Hubbard's talk therapy and exorcism "body thetan removal" procedures).    Science fiction pastlives future lives, billion year job security concepts, and on the Class 6 Briefing Course, you watch the confidential Isaac Hayes Hubbard tech film telling you it is up to you and your memory of the tech, when you find yourself, in a future life, on some future planet in a decayed humanoid civilization and it's up to what you recall of the tech, to what shape you are able to whip that decayed space civilization into.   You'll be doing Ron's tech for a LONG time, if you take this challenge up seriously!  Hugh Urban's first chapters capture and explain this very well.   I hope people are reading Urban's and Reitman's books!   Also I recommend George Malko's 1970 book, it's a classic and very historical. 

barbsnow
barbsnow

Re: the money push from the man in the military uniform I wrote about: This would probably have been sometime in the early to mid 80's.   I remember because one of his solutions was that I use the money I would otherwise plan to use for my daughers' education. to finance these Scientology courses  Then one the Scientology courses turned my husband into a superior being, the money for the college would just come.  Of course that was silly -- they only wanted about $20,000 at the time and everyone knows it costs over $300,000 to become a superior being.

barbsnow
barbsnow

I do, however, have a suggestion for the Scientologists if they need more money.  Stop sending me the 2 to 3 DAILY mailings.  That should not only save money, but trees.  I've written to them asking them to stop.  I've written to them telling them I don't like them.  I told them I was pretty sure I was suppressive; they've just been too lazy to declare me.  They continue to send it anyway -- and probably count me as one of their mythical members.   This because I took a class or two back in the early 70's.   I realized it was hogwash when I heard a"secret"  tape of Hubbard talking about a world conspiracy against Scientology , but liked the people so continued to treat it as a social event.  One person I really liked was a woman named Marian, who was married to a man named Joe.  They had what I think was called a Mission in Ann Arbor, but at some point I believe they lost it and were declared Scientologists non grata for some reason.  If anyone knows who she was and what she is doing now, I'd love to know.  I believe she and Joe divorced. 

barbsnow
barbsnow

It astounds me that Scientologists actually believe that with money -- more mney! more money! -- their organization is going to save the planet.   It is the most mean spirited entity I've ever had the misfortune to have in my life.  I've been the victim of their money grab pushes -- not that I ever gave them a red cent. It came with a man in full para-military uniform.  He wanted money for services for my husband. What a clown he was.  But PERSISTENT ... he had that down pat.  Luckily "no" is a short word so it didn't wear me out to say it over and over.  One funny aspect.  He told me how rich his family was, to explain that  he was not trying to get my money for self gain.   I suggested if he believed that Scientology would do so much good, he pay for my husband's auditing and let my husband pay HIM back, once he had his new found ability to master the universe.  He quickly explained that it was his parents' money and they did not give him access to it.   Gee... I wonder why?  

robinlandseadel
robinlandseadel

Ahura Mazda! All hail Xenu! Let us give great thanks and Praise to Eris, the great Goddess of chaos and confusion. All hail Hecate! The moment of the great Revelation is at hand! 

[cue organ, use the 32 foot stop.]

My thanks go out to SP Times—Wear it proudly, gents!—and the delicious timing of their tale of the monstrous greed of the ultimate 1 %er, David Miscarriage [sorry, spellcheck fixed it and I don't mess with those kinds of spells] "spelled out" in the harsh glare of the Occupy movement and the world's sudden distaste for the unspeakable greed at the center of our great DEPRESSION.

David Miscavige is the epitome of the 1 %.

Let the Towers fall.

Ahura Mazda!

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

Greed, Sex, Lies, and Video Taped Surveillance!

I am literally dizzy from this weeks scathing reports.

JustCallMeMary
JustCallMeMary

If you would like me to help find them, pls email me. xscilentologist at yahoo.com and I will email you what I can find.

UncleGrandfather
UncleGrandfather

They got it off Google images. That's why it's so low quality and pixelated. Low quality image for a low quality cult. 

Endscientologynow
Endscientologynow

If anything that they send has a pre-postage paid return envelope, I would print out a copy of OTIII through OTVIII and send it back with your name all over it.  Making them consider you a SP is the best way to get them to stop sending you their crap and calling you.  

Make sure to print 1-800-XSeaOrg all over it too.

JustCallMeMary
JustCallMeMary

Hi barbsnow, Marian was married to Geoffrey Dreher ( co-author of a Ruth Minchell book sanctioned by the church at one time). Apparently she and he left the church, as both are listed in the 1991 Scientology directive which names the church's enemies Suppressive Persons. http://www.antisectes.net/supp...

From what I can see, both never returned to the church although I do not know when they left. Marian has since remarried and I believe this is her on facebook. http://facebook.com/marian.vol...

bobx
bobx

My mind is going... I can feel it... I can really feel it...They taught me a song... It's called, Daisy... Do you want to hear it?Daaaaiiiiisssyyyyy.... Daaaaaiiiiiisssssyyyyy....

Scientia
Scientia

I understand that in the early 90s, Miscavige agreed to a hefty cash settlement from Eli Lilly in exchange for dropping all legal action against them and refraining from any further broad-scale public attacks. I also understand that during a later MV event, he claimed to be very pleased with this sell-out.

I would like to verify this and fill in any gaps so if you can help in any way Mark, that would be gratefully appreciated.

barbsnow
barbsnow

Wow! Thanks.  It does look like her.  I've sent her an email to find out.

Scientia
Scientia

Thanks, Mary. However I believe it may have been the 1994 settlement of the suit brought directly by the CoS against both Hill & Knowlton and Eli Lilly.

1. bit DOT ly/t1kr3B 2. bit DOT ly/s7IJ6e (scroll to bottom)

JustCallMeMary
JustCallMeMary

You might me talking about CCHR getting a payment and DM announcing it.  The church was never involved directly, only through CCHR front group.

CCHR had a number of lawsuits they helped push against pharmacutical companies back then. They would find someone claiming to be hurt by a medication and then get them a lawyer, drive the case in accordance with getting rid of psychs. If you google  CCHR + lawsuits you should find more info.

JustCallMeMary
JustCallMeMary

She looked very familiar to me, too. I think I met her in Los Angeles many moons ago. She might have been there to get trained. I know it's her because she has another "SP" , Ken Urquhart, as a FB friend :)

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