Scientology's Cruise Ship as Prison: The Voice Interviews Valeska Paris (UPDATED and CORRECTED)


Often, the ship was not very full, she says, as not enough high-level Scientologists could be convinced to spend large sums to come take their OT VIII training (which runs about $8,000 for only that step -- to reach that point will cost a typical church member hundreds of thousands of dollars over his or her career).

But every June, the ship would fill up for the annual "Maiden Voyage," a celebration of the vessel's actual first voyage. Executives would travel to the ship and would stay for weeks, into July and even August. And one July, in 2004, was especially significant.

"We were all pulled down to the cinema," Valeska says, remembering the special announcement when they were told that Tom Cruise was coming to the ship for his birthday, which is July 3. "We were all told we can't ask for his autograph, or we'd get a comm ev." (A "committee of evidence" is a sort of Scientology disciplinary trial.) "We can't tell anyone that he's coming to the ship or that he'd been to the ship, or again, a comm ev. And we had to call him 'sir.' It was like he was David Miscavige's deputy or something."

As the date for the party neared, however, Valeska committed a grave error.

She got a cold sore.

"David Miscavige saw that I had a cold sore, and I was assigned to lower conditions and I was put in isolation for 4 days," she says. She explains that she was assigned the "condition" of "Treason," which is below "Enemy" but above "Confusion."

"I was in Treason. So I wasn't allowed to go to Tom Cruise's birthday." [Note: I misunderstood what Valeska told me last night about the particular condition she was assigned, and have corrected it. -- T.O.]

By the time Cruise arrived, her cold sore had gone away, but she was still in the doghouse. She remembers that before he arrived, Miscavige was eating a meal and addressed her and a few other workers.

"He said, 'Tom Cruise is coming and I need really good service, so who's going to serve him?' A woman spoke up. 'No, no, it can't be a woman, because he's so good looking, any woman would fall for him.' So a guy had to take the job," she says.

The first morning after Cruise arrived however, the male worker assigned to serve Cruise and his guest, Penelope Cruz, slept in, and Valeska ended up doing the job.

Cruise and Cruz were staying in the best cabin on the ship, which Valeska says was actually a violation of Freewinds rules -- unmarried "publics" (non-Sea Org Scientologists) were never allowed to sleep in the same cabin. But the rule was bent for the famous actor.

"They had a yacht specifically for him," she says, referring to a smaller boat that Miscavige and Cruise used for diving. "Everything was free. They'd go diving and on motorbikes in Bonaire. When they went on the yacht, they had the best service, the best food. Tom was on a special diet. A chef, maybe from New York, a Chinese chef, was flown in to cook for him," she remembers.

Meanwhile, back on the ship, preparations for the big birthday were in full swing. "There were posters for every single movie he'd been in except for the one he made with Nicole Kidman [1999's Eyes Wide Shut, directed by Stanley Kubrick], because she's a big old SP." [Update: Kidman also starred with Cruise in 1990's Days of Thunder and 1992's Far and Away. Valeska says all three movies were absent from the posters and music during the party.]

Still in lower conditions for her now-vanished cold sore, Valeska was unable to attend the party, but she heard plenty about it. "The band did all the songs from his movies, except the one he did with Nicole." And she says three young women from the IASA -- the administration of the International Association of Scientologists -- were disciplined after the party. "They were trying to get Tom's attention. So they were put in the engine room."

The party itself was all about lavishing Miscavige's attention on his buddy Tom. "It was all set up by David Miscavige. All done by the church. And all about Tom Cruise. It was really weird. I mean, who wants to have posters of that stuff everywhere? And music playing from his movies."

A video of the night's festivities leaked some years ago. As we've pointed out several times recently, Cruise got up to sing "Old Time Rock & Roll" with Scientologist Stacy Francis, who would go on to be a contestant on television's X Factor...

Another person on ship that night was former top Scientology spokesman Mike Rinder, who says he does remember Valeska Paris, but didn't know her very well or her situation on the ship. He has his own memories of the night of Tom Cruise's birthday party.

"I was in the bilges," he tells me.

"That's right, he was," Vaselka says. "He was in the engine room. And so were [other top Scientology executives] Guillaume Lesevre. Heber Jentzsch. Marc Yager. I think Jennie Linson was down there, too."

Rinder tells me that each year, from 2004 to 2006, when he went to the Freewinds for the Maiden Voyage, he ended up in the bilges, at one point for more than two months.

What had they done?

"I remember Miscavige yelling -- he's always yelling, always, you could hear him a mile away -- and it was always something about how incompetent they are, and how they can't get anything right," Valeska says.

The year before, in 2003, the same thing had happened with Jentzsch, Yager, Linson, Lesevre, and another executive named Angie Blankenship.

"They had to call us 'sir.' They had fifteen minute meal breaks. They were running everywhere like they were in the RPF," she says, referring to the Rehabilitation Project Force, Scientology's prison detail.

"At night they would come to the course room and they were listening to tapes. And then they were getting ethics interrogations on the meter, and they were not getting enough sleep, I can tell you that. Angie was sick, Guillaume was sick. And then they were working on the ship, on the deck, where public could see them. They were there way after Maiden Voyage that year, all the way to August," she says. "At night they were serving our dinner, and had to call us 'sir.' And these were supposed to be the executives of Scientology."

She sounds stunned, thinking about it today. "That whole time, Miscavige, every day, no fail, he was either going diving, or he was going and taking photos with two people from Golden Era Productions. And then he'd come back at night and come down to the cinema to watch brand new movies flown out from the States. I can't imagine what that cost. Every night he'd go down and watch movies. This went on from June to the end of August."

Again, I asked, what had the executives done? "Nothing. It was just in his mind. Miscavige's thing is that he's doing everything, and everyone else is incompetent, and they were all pieces of shit, and he has to handle everything."

Work in the engine room was incredibly unpleasant, Rinder tells me. "Valeska talks about passing out? That happened to Heber one time, too.

"It's a kingdom unto itself. There's really only one way into or out of the ship. There's no outside law enforcement," Rinder adds, backing up Valeska's assertion that it was virtually impossible to leave on one's own. "Mike Napier, the captain of the Freewinds, is one of David Miscavige's favorite hit men. He gets used to control and intimidate people that Miscavige wants controlled and intimidated," he says. "It is such a completely controlled environment. It's very difficult to get away from there. Don Jason is the only one I know who was able to get away on his own."

In 2009, St. Petersburg Times journalist Tom Tobin wrote the incredible story of Jason, a Scientologist who had been sent to the ship for counseling and discipline, and who finally escaped from the Freewinds by riding down a cable with a sort of rolling pin to maintain his grip. That was in November 1996, soon after Valeska had herself arrived on the ship.

"After he got away, the guy who was the security chief was given a committee of evidence and was taken off his post and put in a lower position. And the security guard who was supposed to chase him down was made a plumber. So heads rolled for him getting away," Valeska says.

I asked her if, during her 12 years aboard, there were others like herself who felt they were imprisoned. "There were people who were there who didn't want to be there, but it takes forever to get off the ship."

And was anyone working there actually happy with their situation?

"Well, the captain was happy. But nobody liked him," she says.

"I guess it's all about David Miscavige now, but it's not about caring about the individual at all. The goal is clearing the planet, so they just trash the individual. There's a bigger
purpose," she says, explaining how no individual's happiness was considered very important.

Near the end of her time on the Freewinds, Valeska had been busted down to washing pots and pans. "I knew I was going to the RPF, but I didn't care, I just wanted to get off the ship." She had run afoul of the management, and plans were being made to send her to an RPF complex in Australia. Valeska remembers having to sign papers to that effect, and it had to be videotaped.

"I had to put makeup on, I looked like shit."

Finally, she got off the ship, in 2007, and at the RPF met Guider, who was also there. After they "graduated" from the RPF, they began seeing each other, got married, and had a son, Declan. That was against Sea Org rules, but by then they didn't care. They decided to leave Scientology, but the church wanted first to get them to sign gag orders.

Valeska says that she had already signed one confidentiality agreement while on the Freewinds.

This time, she made sure not to sign her legal name.

"Of course, you don't get a copy of it. I didn't even read it. It was 15 or 20 pages long," she says. Guider, meanwhile, didn't sign his at all.

"He was stronger. He said 'Fuck you, I'm not going into session, I'm not being sec-checked [Scientology's version of interrogation], and I'm not signing anything.' I wish I'd done the same thing," Valeska says.

Even so, it must have taken some soul-searching before she decided to go public with her statements at Marty Rathbun's blog. What brought her to that point?

"I was pregnant and I was getting nasty messages from my dad and e-mails from my brother," she says. Once she left Scientology -- and reunited with her mother, who she hadn't seen in 15 years -- then her father and brother, who remain in the church, were forced to disconnect from her and her sister Melissa, who has also left Scientology.

"Melissa has a a 10-year-old daughter who has never met her grandfather," she says.

Did she worry, however, that Scientology would use the confidentiality agreements she signed to take her into a legal hell?

"I spoke to Mike Rinder. He said that if you bring up David Miscavige, there's no way they'll sue you, because they would never risk having him in court," she says.

It's been two months since Lateline did its own story about Chris Guider. I asked how the publicity has affected them.

"It's all been positive. Since we've left the church, life has been awesome. and speaking out is great. You get it off your chest. And I want them to go away. I want that whole church scene to be taken down," she says.

Her story has certainly had a surprisingly strong impact. I'll end with this video from Australia's version of A Current Affair, which aired last night. And after that, Scientology's entire response to Valeska's allegations.


Statement from the Church of Scientology


The Top 25 People Crippling Scientology
#1: L. Ron Hubbard
#2: David Miscavige
#3: Marty Rathbun
#4: Tom Cruise
#5: Joe Childs and Tom Tobin
#6: Anonymous
#7: Mark Bunker
#8: Mike Rinder
#9: Jason Beghe
#10: Lisa McPherson
#11: Nick Xenophon (and other public servants)
#12: Tommy Davis (and other hapless church executives)
#13: Janet Reitman (and other journalists)
#14: Tory Christman (and other noisy ex-Scientologists)
#15: Andreas Heldal-Lund (and other old time church critics)
#16: Marc and Claire Headley, escapees of the church's HQ
#17: Jefferson Hawkins, the man behind the TV volcano
#18: Amy Scobee, former Sea Org executive
#19: The Squirrel Busters (and the church's other thugs and goons)
#20: Trey Parker and Matt Stone (and other media figures)
#21: Kendrick Moxon, attorney for the church
#22: Jamie DeWolf (and other L. Ron Hubbard family members)
#23: Ken Dandar (and other attorneys who litigate against the church)
#24: David Touretzky (and other academics)
#25: Xenu, galactic overlord


Tony Ortega is the editor-in-chief of The Village Voice. Since 1995, he's been writing about Scientology at several publications.

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268 comments
SvenBoogie
SvenBoogie

R.I.P, this article's comments...

LarryE76
LarryE76

I heard there is a book being made with authors...Denk, Broeker and Mayo.

MTReynolds
MTReynolds

A sick cult who uses lawyers to intimidate.  I lost a friend to this whacked out money grubbing cult.  She spent every single dime she had doing stupid courses up in Los Angeles (wore out a car commuting, went into debt for a new one) while her kids ate TV dinners and were shuffled around so she could “get to the next level”   A single mother of two boys spent every single red cent on this disgusting cult.  She lived in a crappy condo with a kitchen from 1972 - meanwhile, Cruise and all the other whackers live lavish lives brainwashing people and stealing their money.  What i want to see is sicko Tom Cruise in his Sea ORG get up - they actually have uniforms and play dress up!  How this disgusting cult is even legal in this country is beyond me - it should be investigated and BANNED in the US.

OTVIIIisGrrr8!
OTVIIIisGrrr8!

We in RTC do not recognize the Freewinds experienced Valeska has mocked up in her reactive mind. It appears that her 2D Chris has brainwashed her using devious psychiatric techniques created by the Nazis and later appropriated by the godless Soviet Communists to use on witless dupes such as Tony Ortega's mass-implanted audience of disco-era potheads.

100% of Scientology publics surveyed aboard the Freewinds recently said that they were not presently being held captive onboard. Factually, the Freewinds does not have a brig or any sort of prison nor does it need any given that we have so many fine shore-based RPF facilities in distant areas of dark subcontinents that can only be reached by helicopter and are surrounded by malarial swamps that teem with alligators and deadly snakes.

Working in the engine room of the Freewinds is a miraculous course in attaining mastery over MEST, To congite that well-oiled diesel engines make things go well is to realize that the Church of Scientology and its vaunted Tech work only if they too are well-oiled by money and joyous volunteer labor. To be at cause over clearing the exhaust stack is to be at cause over Clearing the Planet. To sleep in the engine room is to sleep the sleep of angels as one is lulled into a tranquil rest by the reassuring rhythm of rocker arms and piston that power the pure theta Freewinds into reg cycles ad infinitum.

Lies = Truth is the stable datum of Scientology apostates. They must lie about Mankind's only hope because they are in a dwindling spiral. To boast about having babies and wog jobs as if this sort of dreary and common domesticity is something special leaves we in RTC unimpressed. Wogs reproduce like rabbits and work in wog jobs. This is special how? Changing diapers is not even in the same league as changing the world and changing lives for the better as we do everyday in Scientology:

Facts:

* With over 5,500,000 copies of the Way to Happiness distributed last week in India, Scientology tech is now being used in 100%  of Indian schools owned by Scientologists.

* 100% of IAS members surveyed at recent IAS meetings reported increased happiness due to Scientology.

* 100% of Scientologists on course at Flag who encountered problems admitted in Ethics interviews that they alone were to blame for being "no case gain."

* Our investments in exotic offshore derivative funding vehicles look like they will give us a whopping 224% return next year. In other words, we bet big on Greece to fail and our postulate will stick. Plenty of Greeks will be happy to get three hots and a cot in Sea Org after the collapse -- and so will many of you out there!

Please do call us when you're ready to sign on for a sweet billion years to help salvage this junkyard universe. 

justbeamensch
justbeamensch

Is the Voice still involved in human trafficking adds and child prostitution?  Gotta keep that profit rolling in-

uther pendragon
uther pendragon

You'd think that the fact this whole thing was thought up by a (bad) science fiction author would give one pause about the initial premise.

SayHi2YourMom4Me
SayHi2YourMom4Me

Even someone loopy to believe their souls were thousands and thousands of years old should see something wrong with trying to get a 14 year old child to sign a contract for a friggin Billion years of slave wage manual labor! A lot can change in hundreds of millions of years, what if she decided she wanted to change careers at some point down the line?

OTVIIIisGrrr8!
OTVIIIisGrrr8!

The entire point of signing a billion year contract is that one knows exactly what they will be doing for the next billion years and that is engaging in joyous volunteer performed with no thought or expectation of any financial recompense whatsoever. This is the pure joy of giving a billion years to the greatest purpose one can attain in this universe, namely working in the engine rooms of various Sea Org ships. Someday Sea Org personnel will proudly be maintaining the warp engines in our planned fleet of Scientology Starships). Only the elite SS Miscavige Sea Org (SSMSO) will allowed to crew these vehicles.  

DrKnowe
DrKnowe

As of now a contract entered into by a minor isn't enforceable, even if that minor is a current incarnation of a million years old being, on her way to being an incarnation of a billion years old being.However, depending on how Newt revamps the child labor laws, these contracts may be enforceable in the near (and far) future.

(I've got more to say, but my nether-regions itch terribly.  I was out slumming it unprotected this weekend and I believe I've caught a case of genital thetans)

Risingmoon_01
Risingmoon_01

I can't help but think, granting them THEIR OWN THEORY on how they were imprisoned on this planet, then hopefully when humanity finally makes it off this rock, they'll still be stuck here. Frankly, they deserve such self imposed punishment, and I think they know it.

northwoods21
northwoods21

contrary to popular belief Scientology was actually invented by North Korea.

Thefind
Thefind

Think about it, how would someone hold you against yourwill on a ship for 12 years? There would only be one way and that would be to imprisonyou. She couldn’t get off the ship? She couldn’t make a phone call? Who are youfooling? If your legs move, you can walk down a plank and off a ship. I know asmear campaign when and I see it. This woman isn't telling the truth, she'stelling fragmented pieces of facts that are construed to look like somethingit's not. If she said that she decided to be on the ship for 12 years and itdidn’t go like she thought it would. I would be much more inclined to believeher -- but held against her will? If it's true then she had no "will" to begin with.

mike
mike

all you guys are faggots and to think that this is actually all true is bullshit. the only thing that scientology is here for is to help people and thats all its done. also like it says you fucking sign the contract and join on your own free will. you can leave anytime you want. also if you knew all the true information youd not be saying anything so get out of your rooms and do shit with your like instead of just agreeing with bullshit comments on something you have no real data about.

MTReynolds
MTReynolds

Sure, it helped liquidate thousands upon thousands dollars from my weak minded, single mother former friend who was easily led - til this day she's still living in a dumpy condo in East County and giving all her assets to this nasty, nasty CULT.

Millievan
Millievan

Ridiculous allegations for a woman whose own husband calls her a liar!

robinlandseadel
robinlandseadel

Overwhelming preponderance of evidence and Occam's Razor—if the cult always says everybody else is lying, then the cult is lying. QED.

Emin
Emin

Tabloids are fun... until they hurt someone/thing. Oh wait, they always do!

Tosha
Tosha

Valeska's story is concocted from imagination. She says she could have escaped -- then she wasn't imprisoned then right? She was "resigned." Translation - she was there out of her own freewill. Here is what the Church of Scientology has to say about the issue: http://bit.ly/u3s2PO

Brennan Michaels
Brennan Michaels

Valeska Guider served as a crew member aboard the Freewinds religious retreat as a volunteer, religious worker. She was an adult and there of her own free will as part of her religious commitment to the Church of Scientology. The Freewinds is a passenger vessel with hundreds of people aboard. Ms. Guider’s staff positions as a waitress, course instructor and staff counselor regularly placed her in contact with many parishioners and staff. She met the man to whom she was married from 1998-2005 and who affirms that her claims of being held against her will are utterly false. She left the Freewinds hundreds of times to go shopping, for outings with her husband on the islands of St. Kitts, Aruba, St. Barts and Curaçao, and for numerous other reasons. She went on extended trips to the United Kingdom, United States and Denmark passing through Immigration and Customs when entering and leaving these countries. Her claims are false.

robinlandseadel
robinlandseadel

And you are a dumptruck loaded with BS. Sorry, CO$ is not a church, it is a money grubbing cult.

Brennan Michaels
Brennan Michaels

Valeska Guider served as a crew member aboard the Freewinds religious retreat as a volunteer, religious worker. She was an adult and there of her own free will as part of her religious commitment to the Church of Scientology. The Freewinds is a passenger vessel with hundreds of people aboard. Ms. Guider’s staff positions as a waitress, course instructor and staff counselor regularly placed her in contact with many parishioners and staff. She met the man to whom she was married from 1998-2005 and who affirms that her claims of being held against her will are utterly false. She left the Freewinds hundreds of times to go shopping, for outings with her husband on the islands of St. Kitts, Aruba, St. Barts and Curaçao, and for numerous other reasons. She went on extended trips to the United Kingdom, United States and Denmark passing through Immigration and Customs when entering and leaving these countries. Her claims are false.

http://www.scientologynews.org...

flame
flame

It is I, BABALON, ye fools, MY TIME is come...

Joyce Liles
Joyce Liles

If you people are so called Christians then why are you using filthy language and profanity. Scientology is not a church of our Christ in Heaven, it is the Devil's advocate trying to brain wash ours into thinking it is.

Gitsie007
Gitsie007

I'm glad all of this is coming out--but feel terrible for Valeska and what she went through and most likely many others are as of now.  The Co$ needs to fall and fall hard.  This is nothing but an evil enterprise. 

Gitsie007
Gitsie007

The name 'freewinds' makes me think of one passing gas.

without_hate
without_hate

Yahoo News had a story of a woman that claims she was held captive on a cruise ship operated by the cult of Scientology for thirteen years. She was allowed to go and off the cruise ship at ports from time to time with an escort. It was not logical for her not to be able to escape and open Cruise ship. After researching this subject, It not only possible in all probability the young lady is telling the truth. It is very difficult to comprehended, why a person with average intelligence would join a cult. The cult's total control of one life and the constant demand for money should turn away anyone seeking membership. As many experts stated, one does not join a cult, you are recruited by someone you trust. I  accepted the stereo type view of cultist as "only foolish, lonely, or disturbed people join the ranks of destructive cults". Most people believe that individuals who join cults are insecure and are motivated by a desire to find a tight knit community within which they can find a stronger sense of identity and security--a haven from the outside world. A common perception is that such people typically cannot make decisions for themselves or bear the pressure of making choices independently. Thus, some reason that cult members were on a quest to find someone to control them and dictate their actions and lifestyle. Cult members, according to this logic, are people who prefercultic control and dependency--instead of the burden of autonomous decision-making."(1). "Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."Thomas Jefferson. My view of inductees and members of cult was worse than ignorance, I had accepted the stereotype as my own view point and I was wrong. "Many cult members are doctors, lawyers, professors, and high profile celebrities--responsible citizens. This is why some cults have survived for decades and functioned efficiently despite a high turnover rate, public disapproval and angry parents. People often believe cult members must have been neglected by their families. But this conclusion is in sharp contrast to the actions taken by many concerned families who will devote their money and time in intervention efforts to bring their children out of such groups and home again. "(1a).The cult watcher hand book states ""About two-thirds of those studied have been normal young persons induced to join groups in periods of personal crisis,[such as] broken romance or failures to get the job or college of their choice.Vulnerable, the young person affiliates with a cult offering promises of unconditional love, new mental powers,and social utopia." (2)

2B_Fair
2B_Fair

Your name indicates that you might be fair. Tabloid media in Australia have concocted a bizarre tale concerning the Church of Scientology and its religious retreat, the Motor Vessel Freewinds, based solely on the fabrication of an apostate disgruntled ex-member.Valeska Guider served as a crew member aboard the Freewinds religious retreat as a volunteer, religious worker.  She was an adult and there of her own free will as part of her religious commitment to the Church of Scientology.  The Freewinds is a passenger vessel with hundreds of people aboard. Ms. Guider’s staff positions as a waitress, course instructor and staff counselor regularly placed her in contact with many parishioners and staff. She met the man to whom she was married from 1998-2005 and who affirms that her claims of being held against her will are utterly false.  She left the Freewindshundreds of times to go shopping, for outings with her husband on the islands of St. Kitts, Aruba, St. Barts and Curaçao, and for numerous other reasons. She went on extended trips to the United Kingdom, United States and Denmark passing through Immigration and Customs when entering and leaving these countries. Her claims are false.The Freewinds, based in the Caribbean, is a religious retreat where Scientologists come for events, conventions, courses and spiritual counseling.  The Freewinds is visited regularly by officials from the islands and countries it visits. It also serves as a training vessel and has become the regional authority on maritime security and trains law enforcement and military personnel. A recent Meritorious Public Service Award from United States Homeland Security, awarded to the Freewinds by the United States Coast Guard, describes the Freewinds as the “premier training platform throughout the Caribbean Basin.” It further acknowledges continuous instruction of Caribbean personnel in what is described as the “highest traditions of the United States Coast Guard’s core values—honor, respect and devotion to duty.”The Freewinds also helps to advance the Church’s humanitarian initiatives throughout the Caribbean region and has received numerous acknowledgements for its work in the fields of drug abuse education and prevention, human rights, morals education and literacy.Information about the Freewinds or about the Scientology religion is available on the Church’s website  

without_hate
without_hate

Thank you for this information this has to be factored into equations. I know that there are two sides to ever story. Her story will be able to check out this was and open ship going to major ports in the worlds. Thank you for her background.

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2B_Fair (unregistered) wrote, in response to without_hate:Your name indicates that you might be fair. Tabloid media in Australia have concocted a bizarre tale concerning the Church of Scientology and its religious retreat, the Motor Vessel Freewinds, based solely on the fabrication of an apostate disgruntled ex-member. Valeska Guider served as a crew member aboard the Freewinds religious retreat as a volunteer, religious worker.  She was an adult and there of her own free will as part of her religious commitment to the Church of Scientology.  The Freewinds is a passenger vessel with hundreds of people aboard. Ms. Guider’s staff positions as a waitress, course instructor and staff counselor regularly placed her in contact with many parishioners and staff. She met the man to whom she was married from 1998-2005 and who affirms that her claims of being held against her will are utterly false.  She left the Freewindshundreds of times to go shopping, for outings with her husband on the islands of St. Kitts, Aruba, St. Barts and Curaçao, and for numerous other reasons. She went on extended trips to the United Kingdom, United States and Denmark passing through Immigration and Customs when entering and leaving these countries. Her claims are false. The Freewinds, based in the Caribbean, is a religious retreat where Scientologists come for events, conventions, courses and spiritual counseling.  The Freewinds is visited regularly by officials from the islands and countries it visits. It also serves as a training vessel and has become the regional authority on maritime security and trains law enforcement and military personnel. A recent Meritorious Public Service Award from United States Homeland Security, awarded to the Freewinds by the United States Coast Guard, describes the Freewinds as the “premier training platform throughout the Caribbean Basin.” It further acknowledges continuous instruction of Caribbean personnel in what is described as the “highest traditions of the United States Coast Guard’s core values—honor, respect and devotion to duty.” The Freewinds also helps to advance the Church’s humanitarian initiatives throughout the Caribbean region and has received numerous acknowledgements for its work in the fields of drug abuse education and prevention, human rights, morals education and literacy.Information about the Freewinds or about the Scientology religion is available on the Church’s website Link to comment

robinlandseadel
robinlandseadel

The Freewinds is a scam and so is your post. Sorry, but your rote tactics are too easy to detect. Fail.

without_hate
without_hate

Page 2 I  started hearing from families who had missing members, many of them young kids on our campus, and they all would describe the same sorts of things, '' she said. "A sudden change of personality, a new way of talking . . . and then they would disappear. And bingo, it was the same sort of thing as with the Korean War prisoners, the same sort of thought-reform and social controls. ''*(1c) Mrs Sanger,""They're all the same, really, these groups - they prey on the most lonely, vulnerable people they can find, cage you with your own mind through guilt and fear, cut you off from everyone you knew before, and when they're done doing that, they don't need armed guards to keep you," Singer says. "You're afraid that if you leave, your parents will die, you will die, your life will be ruined."(1d). "Tanya Kach was a missing milk carton kid -- thus the title of her book, "Memoir of Milk Carton Kid."Kach told CBS News her life in captivity was "absolutely horrible." She says she was confined to a bedroom 24 hours a day and led downstairs to a take a shower at most once a week. Hayes-Freeland asked, "There were times that you didn't have access to a bathroom?" "He put a bucket in there, and said, 'That's your bathroom,'" Kach said. "I was just so brainwashed. I feel humiliated now. Absolutely."Kach says her worst memories are the holidays, and Christmas Eve in particular. She spent four of them inside a closet on the second floor of the Hose home. "It broke my heart," she said. "I thought of my family, wondering if they were thinking about me." Over time, Hose allowed Kach to go on the back porch of the house when he was getting ready for work. She didn't leave because he promised to hunt her down and threatened her life. "He would just point. I was like a dog," she said. "I did what my master told me. I went in the closet." That lasted for years. Hose made Kachchange her hair colour and her name, and with those changes came limited freedoms. As she got out, Kach wanted more. She found a friend at a nearby convenience store and one day confided in him that her name wasn't Nikki at all -- but Tanya -- and she was the girl police had been looking for for a decade. He called police and Hose was arrested." (1e).

 "Victims primarily fear consequences;anything they do may be disagreeable and could worsen the situation. Victims are broken down physically by:1) threats of more violence, and 2)creating physical changes or hardships such as imprisonment or controlling the victim?s every move. Victims are broken psychologically by 1) destroying the victim?s sense of well-being and safety,and 2) the aggressor forcing a dogma and new way leaving the victim no chance to dispute it. Victims also go downhill because of an issueof complicity. They feel some degree of guilt of being at fault for what went wrong. Our culture has promulgated distorted view that we have more control than we do and that accidents and bad fortune can be rooted in our own inadequacies. Or, that we deservewhat we get. Victims often backtrack from feeling bad to that undeserving distortion thatthey caused the problem. This self-doubt makes it easier for the aggressor to dominate. Sometimes victims don?t know any better.An abused wife may have been set-up early in life by a father being violent to her mother, a sibling, or herself. A victim may have been sheltered in a loving environment growing up and is, therefore,totally shocked when the trauma occurs. This is not to imply that there isanything wrong with a sheltered upbringing;we need genuinely nice people. However, we need to provide proper resources if someone like this is damaged. Most can fully recover from brainwashing once they are out of the crisis that precipitated it. Life is different, andthere may be some residual feelings that intrude once in a while. Every day life mustbecome healthy again, or we have let the perpetrators win."( Ray Siddons is a licensed marriage and family therapist with a privatepractise in Redlands.)( 2b).

without_hate
without_hate

It is easy to understand how this lady was held captive for thirteen years in an open environment. I am not making a judgement on Scientology but legal authorities need to investigate this organisation and determine the truth. The young lady deserved to be compensated and justice served.  

without_hate
without_hate

I tried to post my sources for the above article but It would not accept them. Please consider this part of the paper. The information came from Yahoo News.Rick Cross web site, Cult Hand Book. 

without_hate
without_hate

Pg 3 0f 3"Victims primarily fear consequences;anything they do may be disagreeable and could worsen the situation. Victims are broken down physically by:1) threats of more violence, and 2)creating physical changes or hardships such as imprisonment or controlling the victim?s every move. Victims are broken psychologically by 1) destroying the victim?s sense of well-being and safety,and 2) the aggressor forcing a dogma and new way leaving the victim no chance to dispute it. Victims also go downhill because of an issueof complicity. They feel some degree of guilt of being at fault for what went wrong. Our culture has promulgated distorted view that we have more control than we do and that accidents and bad fortune can be rooted in our own inadequacies. Or, that we deservewhat we get. Victims often backtrack from feeling bad to that undeserving distortion thatthey caused the problem. This self-doubt makes it easier for the aggressor to dominate. Sometimes victims don?t know any better.An abused wife may have been set-up early in life by a father being violent to her mother, a sibling, or herself. A victim may have been sheltered in a loving environment growing up and is, therefore,totally shocked when the trauma occurs. This is not to imply that there isanything wrong with a sheltered upbringing;we need genuinely nice people. However, we need to provide proper resources if someone like this is damaged. Most can fully recover from brainwashing once they are out of the crisis that precipitated it. Life is different, andthere may be some residual feelings that intrude once in a while. Every day life mustbecome healthy again, or we have let the perpetrators win."( Ray Siddons is a licensed marriage and family therapist with a privatepractise in Redlands.)( 2b). It is easy to understand how this lady was held captive for thirteen years in an open environment. I am not making a judgement on Scientology but legal authorities need to investigate this organisation and determine the truth. The young lady deserved to be compensated and justice served.  Sources:www.yahoonews.comhttp://www.rickross.com/inform...http://www.scribd.com/doc/4769...

without_hate
without_hate

2 of 2 Cults are Evil Retraction"Tanya Kach was a missing milk carton kid -- thus the title of her book, "Memoir of Milk Carton Kid."Kach told CBS News her life in captivity was "absolutely horrible." She says she was confined to a bedroom 24 hours a day and led downstairs to a take a shower at most once a week. Hayes-Freeland asked, "There were times that you didn't have access to a bathroom?" "He put a bucket in there, and said, 'That's your bathroom,'" Kach said. "I was just so brainwashed. I feel humiliated now. Absolutely."Kach says her worst memories are the holidays, and Christmas Eve in particular. She spent four of them inside a closet on the second floor of the Hose home. "It broke my heart," she said. "I thought of my family, wondering if they were thinking about me." Over time, Hose allowed Kach to go on the back porch of the house when he was getting ready for work. She didn't leave because he promised to hunt her down and threatened her life. "He would just point. I was like a dog," she said. "I did what my master told me. I went in the closet." That lasted for years. Hose made Kachchange her hair colour and her name, and with those changes came limited freedoms. As she got out, Kach wanted more. She found a friend at a nearby convenience store and one day confided in him that her name wasn't Nikki at all -- but Tanya -- and she was the girl police had been looking for for a decade. He called police and Hose was arrested." (1e). "Victims primarily fear consequences;anything they do may be disagreeable and could worsen the situation. Victims are broken down physically by:1) threats of more violence, and 2)creating physical changes or hardships such as imprisonment or controlling the victim?s every move. Victims are broken psychologically by 1) destroying the victim?s sense of well-being and safety,and 2) the aggressor forcing a dogma and new way leaving the victim no chance to dispute it. Victims also go downhill because of an issueof complicity. They feel some degree of guilt of being at fault for what went wrong. Our culture has promulgated distorted view that we have more control than we do and that accidents and bad fortune can be rooted in our own inadequacies. Or, that we deservewhat we get. Victims often backtrack from feeling bad to that undeserving distortion thatthey caused the problem. This self-doubt makes it easier for the aggressor to dominate. Sometimes victims don?t know any better.An abused wife may have been set-up early in life by a father being violent to her mother, a sibling, or herself. A victim may have been sheltered in a loving environment growing up and is, therefore,totally shocked when the trauma occurs. This is not to imply that there isanything wrong with a sheltered upbringing;we need genuinely nice people. However, we need to provide proper resources if someone like this is damaged. Most can fully recover from brainwashing once they are out of the crisis that precipitated it. Life is different, andthere may be some residual feelings that intrude once in a while. Every day life mustbecome healthy again, or we have let the perpetrators win."( Ray Siddons is a licensed marriage and family therapist with a privatepractise in Redlands.)( 2b). It is easy to understand how this lady was held captive for thirteen years in an open environment. I am not making a judgement on Scientology but legal authorities need to investigate this organisation and determine the truth. The young lady deserved to be compensated and justice served.  Sources:www.yahoonews.comhttp://www.rickross.com/inform...http://www.scribd.com/doc/4769...

Ron
Ron

Tom Cruise had slaves working his birthday party. He's also had Scientology slaves working on his motorcycle, van, bus and aircraft hanger.

See: Inside Scientology's Labor Camp That Benefits Tom Cruise: The Photos, Village Voice.

It sounds like he's a bit of a rut.

The Kingfish
The Kingfish

Oh, he's not that bad.... just slightly gullible.

TruthoverTradition
TruthoverTradition

Scientology is a cult with L. Ron Hubbard implementing authentic mind control techniques he learned from his military background of MKUltra fame as exposed in Congressional Hearings by Senator Frank Church. I believe the abused individual over the public relation lies of this mind control religion. L. Ron Hubbard believed that he was the incarnate of Joseph Smith as LDS missionaries told him and also CIA agent and LDS/Mormon Apostle Neal A. Maxwell who also brought in mind control tactics into the LDS cult religion.

Ken Ri
Ken Ri

No matter what, this poor girl was still imprisoned by this CULT of clowns.   Scientology has finally been PUBLICLY caught and embarrassed...as they well deserve to...in their destructive schemes of human atrocities and racketeering. This poor girl was found imprisoned just like the other tortured victims of their numerous concentration camps. Work camps that physically torture and brainwash people...even to the point of death.  This is a very dangerous CULT.

 The con-artist L Ronnie-boy Hubbard, the defunct fiction writer, has caused more harm in this world than anyone else in history with his wacky clowns of scientology.

 This cult/money making scheme was created when pansy-boy Hubbard made a bet with friends telling them that "religion is a great way to make money." He then went on to start this cult based on that statement. Feel free to research this yourself. It is probably the only truth that came from this incompetent bum.

 The yahoos of this cult propagate the group via deceit, intimidation, extortion, lies, and bullying anyone that disagrees with them. Sounds a bit like organized crime (mafia), doesn't it.

 Hey you weirdos of dianetics, I dare you to sue me like you sue everyone else who spread the truth about you. I only intend to continue telling people and posting everywhere I can.

Nixonesque
Nixonesque

These people kept me in a series of smaller and smaller rooms as they tried to brainwash me at their "Celebrity" Center in LA when I went to apply for a job (okay, I was dumb, but I thought it would be an interesting place to work). It was extra sad because the two people that were working me over were like, 15 and 25. They wouldn't let me go for what seemed like hours, telling me if I wanted to be happy I just had to buy their book. Finally, I had to basically run away from them by lying and saying I needed to move my car. They insisted that they could move it for me or accompany me while I moved it. I made a break for it when we went out of the compound. I could see them out of my rear view mirror as I drove off. Scary stuff.

JILLYJIVE
JILLYJIVE

SCIENTOLOGY IS A CULT NOTHING MORE!  DAVID MISCAVIGE IS A COWARD, USING THESE NARCISSISTIC, OVERPRIVILEGED CELEBRITIES AS PAWNS TO PROMOTE THIS TWISTED ORGANIZATION THAT FEEDS OFF THE DESPERATION, AND HOPELESSNESS OF OTHERS. THE RITCH GET RITCHER, AND THE POOR GO TO THE ENGINE ROOM!!!  I WILL NEVER PAY MONEY TO GO SEE ANOTHER TOM CRUISE OR TRAVOLTA MOVIE AND NIETHER SHOULD ANYONE ELSE. DOING SO ONLY CONTRIBUTES TO THIS FASCIST REGIME CALLED SCIENTOLOGY. THE CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG MY FRIENDS, AND THIS CULT IS GOING DOWN.  VALESKA AND HER HUSBAND HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN FROM FABRICATING THIS STORY, WHAT'S IN IT FOR THEM? IT IS JUST TOO BIZARRE TO BE MADE UP. NEED I REMIND YOU THAT THESE ARE NOT THE FIRST EX MEMBERS TO COME FORWARD WITH THEIR STORIES OF OPPRESSION, AND MANIPULATION,THAT THEY ENDURED AND WITNESSED FROM THIS SO CALLED RELIGION. IT CAN NO LONGER BE IGNORED, PEOPLE HAVE JUST HAD ENOUGH. I DIDN'T EVEN GET INTO THERE LAWS ABOUT NOT TAKING YOUR KID TO A PROPPER DOCTOR WHEN THEY ARE SICK, I BELIEVE WE CALL THAT CHILD NEGLECT/ABUSE.  IN CLOSING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT ANY SO CALLED RELIGION THAT FORCES MEMBERS TO OSTRACIZE, AND PUNISH THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS...  IS NOT RELIGION.P.S  I AM NON DENOMINATIONAL                             

R. Woods
R. Woods

The story is indeed sad and should never happen to anyone, but, excluding the weird details pertaining to this particular brand of religion, I fail to see how it is all that different than what happens to any child born into a fundamentalist religious family. 

MarkStark
MarkStark

Read the fascinating bio of Hubbard online (free), Bare-faced Messiah by Russell Miller. While some small pockets of fundamentalists may practice the level of "disconnection," (shunning, ex-communication) that Scilons do, the Scilons are rather extreme about it, and their institutionalized indoctrination into pre Sea Org-like organizations such as the Cadet Org are extraordinary in their level of control over an individual, and separation of that individual from their family. There are cases of children as young as five, not seeing their mothers except for once a week. Mothers in the "Sea Org" used to practically abandon their babies to care in a nursery. The cult wanted those mothers to work 100 hours a week, for the organization.

In Scientology, family members can even write reports on each other. You could have a 14 year old turning in a "Knowledge Report" on a parent who is showing some doubts in any aspect of the organization.

Another difference in Scientology from fundamentalists, is that Scientology is structured around extracting HUGE sums of money from people. For example, there was just a documented story in a series about this cult, that was about a new member, who signed up for an $80,000 introductory "package" of courses, and then they wanted him to contribute $35,000 for a building fund (Super Power) in the car from the airport! This was before he even knew much of what it was about. That is how bold and aggressive Scilons can be, once they think they have a rich dupe hooked. (They knew he was a dupe because he already paid for an $80,000 course package.)

This is routine with Scilons. They want to know the net worth of members, including "raw meat" who just walk through the door. Then they want to know that person's "ruin" so they can get as much money as they can from that person, in the fastest time possible. "Raw meat" and "ruin" are terms Hubbard thought up.

Scientology is set up to be ALL ABOUT THE MONEY quite like no other religion. It is a hard-sell brainwashing business. They are the most irritating because of the false claims. They claim it is all "scientific and factual." Hubbard couldn't even pass college science courses, but he excelled in hypnotism and hucksterism.

amanda
amanda

She wasn't forced to work in the engine room?!  So she worked in the engine room because.....  she wanted too?  Thought it was fun? Are you kidding me?

Eric Alexander Steel
Eric Alexander Steel

I really enjoyed the insight this article provided, however there is something I would like clarified:

References to Valeska's father are dramatically inconsistent. At one point he is said to have commit suicide, then to have died of a heart problem, and at the end of the article he's still alive.

Could someone please clarify these facts? I would like to pass along with article but feel these inconsistencies discredit the information provided.

TonyOrtega
TonyOrtega

Valeska's stepfather, Albert Jaquier, committed suicide in December 1994. Her biological father, Jean-Francois Paris, is living in Chicago and has disconnected from his daughters.

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