Jason Lee, Twitter Newbie, Goes After Dude with 6 Followers For Asking About Scientology

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A day after joining Twitter, actor Jason Lee didn't take kindly to a fan, Sean Coleman, griping about his being a member of the Church of Scientology. So Jason took a swipe at Coleman, who has all of 6 followers.

At his Twitter page, you can see that Jason had started out his brief tweeting career about his interest in photography.

This morning, director Kevin Smith then put out the word that Lee was on Twitter: "BRODIE-MAN! NOOTCHIE-NOOTCHIES! His name ain't Earl - it's @THATJasonLee! And now he's on Twitter! Give him a welcome, but no Stink-Palming!"

But then Coleman -- himself a brand new Twitter user -- directed a question to Smith, asking if he knew whether Lee is a Scientologist: "@ThatKevinSmith is Jason lee a scientologist do u ever talk to him about it he was my idol before I found out"

Within minutes, Lee posted a reply, a testament to the Google Alert he must have on his name, or something. (Hi, Jason!)

Anyway, Jason aimed his response to both Coleman and Smith, and it wasn't the most charitably worded: "Wow @djcolee @ThatKevinSmith way to publicly demonstrate your ignorance. I'm the same person I've always been, idiot. Know before you judge."

Which is to say, he was a jerk-off both before and after Dianetics? I'm confused.

UPDATE: Lee just sent a tweet my way pointing out that he was just copying Kevin Smith on that tweet, and didn't "direct" it at him (which I thought was already pretty obvious): "No @VoiceTonyO it was not meant to be directed at Kevin Smith, as well. As you said, I'm a 'newbie' here and still getting the hang of this"

Anyway, Lee then followed that up with this: "My comment to @djcolee is the last anything Scientology-related will ever come up. I won't defend it, nor do I need to. Read a book."

Touchy, touchy. What is it about these Scientologist celebrities that they find it so difficult to discuss freely the breakthrough ideas of L. Ron Hubbard?

Oh, that's right, we wrote earlier that Scientology's celebrities are drilled in training routines to talk publicly about the all the wonderful benefits they've received from Hubbard's books and lectures, but not to actually talk about Hubbard's "technology" itself.

And as for smack talk with fans on Twitter? Looks like they're going to have to add some social media training in that celebrity rundown in the future.


UPDATE: More from our Twitter conversation...

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Marc Headley (@blownforgood) then jumped into the conversation...

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Ouch, Jason lets me have it...

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And I have to grovel, like a good journalist often has to...

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What's this? This may all have a happy ending after all...

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UPDATE ON FRIDAY, DEC 16: Well, so much for Jason Lee's foray into Twitter. Just checked his account, @ThatJasonLee, and it no longer seems to exist.

Was it something we said? Anyway, still looking forward to that sitdown in 2012.

A hat tip to the eagle-eyed folks at WWP, who captured Lee's last tweet:

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Tony Ortega is the editor-in-chief of The Village Voice. Since 1995, he's been writing about Scientology at several publications.

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lethrneck4
lethrneck4

being someone not really religious and a fan of lee and smitsh movies, i did find it surprising when I first heard Lee was a scientologist. maybe im relating more to the characters he plays and not the real Jason, but it seems like scientology to me is something guys like lee and smith would skewer and consider a crazy cult...i bet kevin busts his balls about it though, no way kevin smith can think anything positive about scientology 

kurrdragon
kurrdragon

Oh who cares. Scientology is not a religion it is a bizarre ass ridiculous cult. L ron comes up with aliens are the woe of society? This would be like Stephen King starting a religion in which horrible feelings are caused by the spirits of werewolves and ghouls invading us. You listening King you could make more money than god. Anyhow j lee is a douche and has been since the scientologists got their mits on him. 

rake.maker
rake.maker

Yeh I use to like jason lee until I found out he's a scientologist whack off. Supposedly that idiot that played his brother is too but I can see right through that asshole. Not a very goid actor either. Not so pissed earl is off the air now and that will be lee:s best lifetime achievement.

Janet
Janet

I don't blame Lee. I don't think he should've called the guy an idiot. But of course it's insulting to hear that you were somebody's idol until you changed your religion. And it was low of you to make the forced abortion comment, he was right about that. It's nobody's business what somebody else's religion is. You can refuse to watch his movies if you dislike him - and those of all scientologists. But nobody is going to change anyone's religion by telling them it sucks.

Serena Merega
Serena Merega

I see your point and I -pretty much- agree. I don't know scientology that much but the impression I have is pretty much the same I have for every other "sect": and it's not a kind word so I won't use it. I enjoyed Lee's work on My Name Is Earl (as you can see by my username), I can't talk about him as a person 'cause i don't know him. I followed him on Twitter and liked some of the music videos he posted. What I don't like is that, in 2011 (no wait, almost 2012), we're still judging people by their religion. And that's kinda sad in my opinion.

E B Johnson
E B Johnson

Disclaimer: I am a Jason Lee fan. I am not a fan of Scientology. You may attack Jason's beliefs and the unwise response he made on Twitter, but I am sickened by the derision and hate filled comments on here. They certainly undermine your campaign to reveal the abuses of Scientology.The attacks on his child's name always shows up too. That's particularly unfair. That has nothing to do with Scientology. The child is old enough (8 I believe) to read these constant comments online. By the way, if one was able to read all of Jason's tweets in the few days he was on, as I did, you could see that not about his religion but about music, photography and art. I actually learned a lot from him, especially about music, and was looking forward to more. He shouldn't have attacked the twitterer, but it looks as if the two of them apologized to each other and made up. If the Voice hadn't gotten into it and exploited the incident, it would have blown over and those of us interested -- and not out to troll him as one comment suggested we do -- could have continued to enjoy his attempt to communicate with fans. One comment in the Voice even gave his home address and suggested people write him (and not fan letters). That, fortunately, was a very out of date address so whoever listed it was not was clever as they thought they were. I was also interested in learning more about your investigations but not think I'll look elsewhere. And, as ex-Scientologist Marc Headley (one who's also trying to reveal the evils of Scientology) said to you, "I like Jason Lee, no matter what." Obviously, he knows Lee to be a good person. I still like Jason Lee and I miss on Twitter. I hope all those who gleefully admit that they were going to drive him away are happy. I also hope they choke on their own misguided self-righteousness. I

Jgg
Jgg

  Well Tony, Jason and Bodhi won't answer my tweets.  Someone with 640 followers scares them, but not someone with 6 followers.

Peter
Peter

The point being, nobody cares about individual Scientologists. They just want to drum up the mystique of the Science Fiction surrounding them, and the Scientologist will never be hailed.

Leslie Hope
Leslie Hope

"I'm the same person I've always been: Idiot."

Hey Jason! Fixed that for you!

mia
mia

Amen!

candace6
candace6

THAT was fast. He's probably hoping Tony doesn't try to contact him on facebook next.  Dauntless, defiant and resolute indeed.

mjm
mjm

anybody going to the Ziegfeld Theater tonight to say hi to Tommy Boy?

MarthaWiggins
MarthaWiggins

The thing is...if Jason's done with scn, he sure isn't going to blab about it in a tweet.

Paul Jay Salerno
Paul Jay Salerno

Try asking Bodhi Elfman about Scientology on Twitter and see how many insults he hurls your way....

Guest
Guest

Whoa, Jason Lee mighty talk after the New Year? Probably won't happen but it's nice to know the OSA internet reps are probably pooping their pants after reading this, now that's a Christmas present.

WriterGirl
WriterGirl

I can't WAIT for this conversation!! Go Tony!! Let's send him INSIDE SCIENTOLOGY by Janet Reitman.

PosterChild
PosterChild

Tony, your confront wasn't that great.  I'm not so sure that throwing the forced abortions in his face will get you an interview.  Scientologists tend to have one argument, claiming 'religious freedom'.  If you are not giving them 'religious freedom', you are a 'bigot'.  

With that in mind, I would recommend that you ask him to open up about his beliefs then start to frame your questions armed with the truth that we all know.  Ask him his thoughts on the purif, get his stupid-cheery response, then ask how he feels about the purif being used on addicts with compromised livers.  Ask him how he feels about this practice being forced upon the patient at Tres Rivere that died due to its effects.

Also, if he gets defensive and claims that you are denying him religious freedom, you can bring up the policy of disconnection that led to illegal discrimination of those practicing their own version of Scientology outside the church.  In other words his own church is denying the very religious freedom he claims to want.

I have a feeling that this little Twitter discussion will mean a nice ethics session with Mr. Lee and you'll never hear from him again.

Kim O'Brien
Kim O'Brien

Christopher Hitchens passed last night . :(

MarthaWiggins
MarthaWiggins

Hubbard actually wrote a "policy letter" that says something like:  "Never try to explain scientology to anyone.  Sell them a book and let ME explain it."  All scnists, not just celebrities, are given this mandate.  But a true believer is still expected to disseminate like crazy.  There's a drill for that -- there's a drill for everything in fact.  When you "learn" to disseminate, you are NOT being taught to talk about scn.  You're being taught to intentionally get the person to talk about something that's "ruining" his life.  Then you say "scn can help you with that.  take this course, buy this book," and so on.Paging Chuck Beatty, don't you have the PL? 

The Scientologist
The Scientologist

Tony, you know it is going to be impossible to have a critical conversation with Lee. It might help if you didn't ridicule Scientology or go on the offensive, but that probably wouldn't get you in further. Plus, Lee isn't even anywhere near as indoctrinated as people might assume.

Scientology is a lot like Fight Club, and the first rule of Fight Club is what? That's why its impossible to have a meaningful conversation about Scientology with a Scientologist.

Then again, its hard for a lot of non-Scientologists to attempt meaningful conversation about Scientology, since all they end up doing is ridiculing it.

Oh, well.

Heather Grace
Heather Grace

I think "Know before you judge" is fair enough. One shouldn't make assumptions about people just because they're scientologists.

As for "read a book" (presumably about scientology), well, I don't need to TRY heroin to know it's bad for me, as the analogy goes.

Guest
Guest

Some Jason Lee background:

His manager was and might still be Gay Ribisi.  Mother of twins - Giovonni Ribisi and Marissa Ribisi.  Giovonni is a well known and extremely talented actor.  Marissa is less famous as an actor but now married to the famous Beck -- singer/songwriter.

Beck who disconnected from his mother Bibbe Hansen and brother years ago -- Bibbe Hansen was not the midwife who delivered the Ribisi twins (according to Ribisi wikipedia). It was Dr. Ettenhauser - actually OB/GYN but delivered in the Ribisi's Sea Org room)

Marissa in her teens was dating some very famous skateboarder.  Jason Lee was a top skateboarder in the 80's and early 90's.  

POSSIBLY, Marissa was the link to Jason and Gay. And Gay might have launched Jason's career.  I don't know this though.

The celebrity scientologists are an isolated bunch.  The likelihood of Jason having a genuine interview with Tony is slim to none.  

Sorry Tony.  But Jason would have to give up all his celebrity "friends" -- and they need each other to keep the delusion alive.

Cause I find it hard to believe they can be THAT stupid.  So it's got to be mutual delusionship :)

coincidence?
coincidence?

OK, this is a little off-topic, but not much, and I've been wanting to share it for awhile, but an appropriate subject thread hadn't come up. Now it has, I think. A few months ago I saw some trivia about how much of the show My Name is Earl was filmed in the town of Beaumont, CA. It caught my eye because I grew up there. Also, I knew it was ninety minutes east of Los Angeles, kinda far drive for a weekly television show. Why pick a town so far? Then I remembered Lee was a Scientologist, along with the guy who plays his brother, and many guest stars. Guess what's located just a ten minute drive south of Beaumont, CA? If you guessed Gold Base, you are correct, sir. Satellite google it. Were folks heading over to Gold Base to spend the night in between shoots in town, maybe wave to everyone in the RPF while they settle in for the night with the star treatment? I don't know, just saying it's a weird coincidence. 

Gina Smith
Gina Smith

Well that's me now a fully fledged member of the Tony O fan club.

Chuck Beatty
Chuck Beatty

Sean Coleman is an Aussie, and for some reason, the Aussie and New Zealander Scientologists and ex Scientologists are just some of the best!   There's a long list of great Aussie and New Zealander Scientologists and ex Scientologists, for some reason.   They got that cheerful "fuck you" attitude, that is so refreshing!

Chuck Beatty
Chuck Beatty

good for Sean Coleman, Hey Sean, email me!    Sean and I were on the RPF's RPF for months and months and months and months, and Sean, wherever you are, email me!   chuckbeatty77(at)aol(dot)com     Sean and I worked for a while in a sub unit of the Sea Org in the "complex" in LA.   And later, in my final days in the Sea Org, and Sean's, we both were in the "route out" unit of the RPF, called the "RPF's RPF" and we did ridiculous menial tasks for months and months in eternal waiting for approval to "leave" the Sea Org (the Sea Org members requesting to standardly follow the rules and do the gruesome multi month procedure to "leave" Sea Org staff, there were about 15 of us in this special "route out" category, what a goddamn HUGE relief it was, to finally get approval and be allowed to vamoose the Sea Org, Sean made it out first, then I made it out a couple months later).   Good on you Sean!!!!     chuck beatty, USA Pittsburgh

SFF
SFF

I wonder if he'll actually talk to Tony or if he will be warned that the column is weird and has squirrel stuff in it.

Schockenawd
Schockenawd

If I hear one more celebrity Scientologist regurgitate the same old, tired line the Church handlers obviously drill them on saying -- "Read a book" -- I'm gonna throw up. 

anon anon song
anon anon song

Loved Jason Lee whenever I saw him until heard about his scilon connection. Then I dropped him like a mud glazed doughnut.

Ohai Jason! yes I do read books, many in fact. Nothing Hubbard, though; bonus mind development points are therefore mine.

Scientia
Scientia

CoS celebs don't openly discuss or promote Scientology because it's career suicide. Period. Someone will eventually bring up Xenu (which they will have to lie about) or highlight the numerous abuses of the CoS, and from there things get a little uncomfortable. For a celebrity DMbot, good PR is always senior to integrity and truth.

PattyMoher
PattyMoher

I'd be very surprised if OSA allowed Jason Lee to talk to Tony O.  Very.

Radio Paul
Radio Paul

One thing I would like to hear when Tony talks to him is his explanation of what he and Scientology did to his ex wife Carmen Llwellyn-Lee. Not only did he divorce her, everyone in that she had business dealings with in Scientology sent her nasty letters telling her they would no longer work with her. Why did Jason Lee JUDGE his wife like that?

Frolix8
Frolix8

Jason Lee's answer begs two questions: how long has he been a Scientologist and how or why hasn't Scientology changed him?

I would think Jason Lee turned to Scientology for a perceived benefit. He indicates he has not been changed by his association with Scientology. Has his assocation been particularly brief? If so, his statement would make more sense as he failed to extol its virtues.

I do worry for the person who tweeted the question. What other attacks via Scientology must he now endure for his question. 

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

I really try to feel sorry for him, but when I read a stories like this and knowing he probably condoned it...well...

JASON LEE'S EX-WIFE EMOTIONALLY SCARRED BY SCIENTOLOGY!

My Name Is Earl star Jason Lee's ex-wife Carmen Llywellyn is going public with her disturbing experiences after leaving the Church of Scientology!Carmen became a practicing Scientologist in 1995 after marrying Jason (a devout Scientologist), and says the Church "ruined" her life and career after divorcing Lee in 2002!!"Scientologists followed me down the street. They took pictures of my kids. They’d stake out my house, wait until we came out and follow us. They came looking for me to scare me. I was nearly suicidal," tells Llywellyn.Horrible!!!And we believe every word of it!"I have never spoken about Scientology before, but I still have nightmares about these people," Carmen says. "I ended up addicted to painkillers, and it took three rehabs to get me straight."And active Scientology church members are still giving her the cold shoulder!Recalls Carmen: "I was shopping recently when Jenna Elfman, who’s a staunch Scientologist, approached me. She spouted statements like a robot and treated me like dirt."Carmen is very, very brave to come forward and tell her story, considering what wackadoos Scientologists are!

Paulett Cooper became addicted to drugs too after the cult started to fairgamed her.

Jgg
Jgg

  He now tweets that "after the New Year" you two can talk about it.  Why does he need 2 weeks to figure out how to defend the cult?

MarkStark
MarkStark

I saw a few episodes of EARL. Although it wasn't "must see" or see-at-all TV for me, I liked his character. I was disappointed to find out he was a Scilon.

Anyway Jason, if you are reading this, please read Russell Miller's BARE-FACED MESSIAH (available free online), the bio of Hubbard. Hubbard was a conman, stars are stroked and pampered, and you've been had. At least read the wiki on Scientology, Hubbard, Xenu and the Helatrobus Implant.

There's a lot more to this cult than the celebrities ever see. Ask Paul Haggis.

robinlandseadel
robinlandseadel

I feel kinda sorry for Jason Lee. "My Name Is Earl" was a very cool show and he seems to be an interesting actor. Hopefully he'll get a wake-up call from this interaction and do a bit more research on his own. Give the dude a chance—"Earl" is all about karma, after all.

Radio Paul
Radio Paul

I can not respect someone who openly supports the KKK. Is that a judgment? I don't know what Jason thinks, that he can support a racist, homophobic, money grubbing, stalking, criminally convicted cult, and when someone has an issue with that he takes it as a judgement? So in WWII there were good germans and bad germans but if the wore the uniform of the Nazi's they were judge accordingly. We are all judged all the time and that is not a bad thing. It means that we are not above accountability.

mike1962
mike1962

Mr. Lee doesn't  have a clue about real Scientology. He's just a pampered celeb, kept in a ball of cotton wool by the cult.

Synthia Elizabeth Fagen
Synthia Elizabeth Fagen

Yeah, the Celebrity Centre President's Office will be doing a big smack down on that interview as in ...No Freakin' Way. If he actually asserts his own independence and grants such an interview, I will be impressed. Let's see if he can pull himself up to Chill EB status.

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

Doesn't he have a child named Inspector Space Ship or something like that? Or was that another loony actor who named their kid that?

Jgg
Jgg

  Whoa.  What religion says "go read a book."?  What religious convert would say he was still "the same person I always was?"  @jasonlee--go to a real church; pray; worship; praise the lord; ask forgiveness for what you did to your ex-wife; tell me know if that changes you.

Joe_Lynn
Joe_Lynn

Well, he's well trained; "I won't defend it, nor do I need to."

Right Jason; 'always attack; never defend'   What would Ron do?

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

YOW! This is good. Be right back my popcorn is popping. =-O

media_lush
media_lush

my first tweet to him:  so, like you give your agent 10% or something. what kind of percentage do you give for that billion year thingy you guys sign?

if he replies I'm going to ask him if it's true about Miscavige's and Cruise's secret affair and who's the top or bottom.... 

Robert Robinson
Robert Robinson

Maybe Jason should read a book, like "Inside Scientology"  or "Madman or Messiah".

barbara graham
barbara graham

He may be "the same person he ever was," but that's not the point. It's like meeting a nice person who is fun to hang out with. Then after a couple of months they start talking about lizard people living inside Mount Whitney. Or raving about weird white power stuff in Idaho.

Suddenly, your estimation of that person changes. And so it is here; Jason Lee the actor is also Jason Lee, the 'guy covered in body thetans who believes a mediocre sci-fi pulp fiction hack held the Secrets to Life, The Universe and Everything.

So Jason, it's like this. He liked you until he found out you're a dwerpy Ronbot.You got Hubbard stank all over you and people do not respect that.

Radio Paul
Radio Paul

Scientology communication skills 101. Be a bully and you can make yourself think people respect you.

Emily
Emily

I have read a book, Mr. Lee. Several of them, in fact. Bare-faced Messiah, The Scandal of Scientology, Blown For Good, The Complex...and to counter that, I drudged through Dianetics and a couple of Hubbard's other garbage before reading the materials in OT levels. Does that qualify me enough to declare you full of shit? Or do you genuinely not care your "religion" locks people up in gulags? If not, reflect a while on the definition of "ignorant." You're living it, baby.

Natalie
Natalie

Many Scientologist are so accustomed to having to defend Scientology, that they see any question as an attack.  Because there is so much bad PR about the Church of Scientology (self created), Scientologist are encouraged to attack and not engage in a simple conversation.

There is no agree to disagree.  From the viewpoint of the Church of Scientology and the 23 parishioners they have left, you are with them or against them.  It's very sad.  Many of the few remaining members once yearned to be better communicators, and desired to have an exchange of opinions.  Our differences are what often make us interesting to one another.  The Church of Scientology has all but destroyed that type of thinking.

What's left is a robot who only knows to attack, and disconnect from anyone not towing the line. For a group that claims to be able to get a person to a point where he can communicate about anything, with anyone, there sure are a large number of Scientologist who are incapable of communicating.

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