Scientology Subluxation: Commenters of the Week!

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"Am I doing it right, Mr. Fairman?"
Another Saturday morning here in the underground bunker finds us once again picking up the pieces after another hectic week. Let's review, shall we?

After starting off the week with another edition of Sunday Funnies, that evening we published our lengthy interview with Ramana Dienes-Browning, a former Sea Org executive who corroborated the claims of Valeska Paris, and described her own harrowing adventures aboard the Freewinds.

On Monday, we took time out to remember Lisa McPherson, who died on December 5, 1995, and who still embodies so much of the Scientology story.

On Tuesday, we asked attorney Scott Pilutik to assess the lawsuit filed by soap star and former Church of Scientology member, Michael Fairman. Fairman is suing his chiropractor, a Scientologist, for dumping him as a client after he was declared a suppressive person (Scientology's version of excommunication).

On Wednesday, we reported that Valeska Paris, the woman who says she was held aboard Scientology's private cruise ship the Freewinds against her will from 1996 to 2007, had received a threat letter from Scientology's attorneys in Sydney. We also provided more details about her time on the ship.

We did our usual STATurday roundup of international stories for Thursday afternoon, including items from India to Australia.

And yesterday, we continued our regular Friday feature, This Week Aboard the Apollo, with more wisdom in the daily dispatches issued by the Commodore, L. Ron Hubbard, to his crew while they sailed the Mediterranean from 1968 to 1971.

In other words, another very full week. So let's get to the awards!

On Sunday, frequent commenter NCSP got off an all-timer in response to our interview with Ramana Dienes-Browning, who was on the Freewinds for five years after being heavily pressured to join the Sea Org at only 15 years of age. NCSP saw an opportunity to slightly alter a well-known line from another Freewinds veteran, actor Tom Cruise:

"When you see a car crash, you know you're the only one who can help. When you see teenagers being imprisoned and used for slave labor, you think, meh."

Many readers thanked Ramana for coming forward, and expressed shock that more isn't being done about Sea Org practices. We liked this comment by Natalie:

Thank you Ramana for speaking out knowing it may mean loosing your mother and brother, if only temporarily. I was in the Sea Org and married at 17. There is a lot of pressure to marry when you are in the Sea Org regardless of your age. Sex outside of marriage is not allowed in the Sea Org. These marriages rarely work out, and it is not uncommon for someone to have been married three times by the time they are 30.

Tony an investigation into the number of underage marriages and number of divorces in the Sea Org would be worth doing. I was a 3rd generation Scientologist. When you are raised in the Church of Scientology you are indoctrinated into a type of thinking that does not allow for disobedience. If you want to disobey or leave, it is because something is wrong with you. That is what they would have you believe. Those chains of control often remain years after leaving.My personal opinion is that it takes a couple of years to de-program yourself, and to get back to a place where you are thinking for yourself. It's been two years since I officially left. Myself, my husband and one of my children have been declared as "Suppressive Persons" by the Church of Scientology. Friends I had for 20 plus years are no longer allowed to speak to me. The disconnection policy of the Church will be their undoing. Thankfully for me, every member of my family left the Church of Scientology when I did. My family is intact. Ramana I know how hard it must have been for you to come forward and share what you know. You have and will help many by doing so.As to Mr. David Miscavige, the currently leader of Corporate Scientology I give you the one finger salute. The only salute you deserve for what you have done and are doing.

We were also happy to see Synthia Fagen weigh in with a lengthy comment. We've excerpted most of it here:

Ramana was pushed to near suicide as the only means of giving her any feeling of control over her own mind or life. Had she committed suicide (as others, under such pressure, already have) that would have been murder, committed by the cult, in my book. Why is this organization above the law? Why do they literally get away with murder?

One of the problems is that it is such a mental control prison, so tortuously mind bending, that the authorities often have little to hang their hats on. The people who are being victimized are so conflicted that they hide their true feelings, even to themselves.

They are pushed and shoved and kept in such horrendous conditions and enslaved by constant emergencies, they never have the normal human right to just sit by themselves and simply reflect on their own lives and happiness. It's a horrible, toxic environment.

These head honchos, perpetrating this abuse, are no better than two-bit penny-ante thugs with most having less than a high school education and little experience in the real world. They tell others how to act and how to 2nd and 3rd mortgage their homes. They talk about huge sums of money, demanding it be given freely to a cold psychotic, greedy machine that cares nothing about them. WAKE UP cult members. Time is running out.

Ramana, thank you from the bottom of my heart.

On Monday, which was 16 years since the death of Lisa McPherson, I asked for reader tributes about what Lisa's story had meant for them. There was also some interesting enturbulation going on in the comments section, and while some of it was trollish, I just wanted to thank our excellent readers for keeping the debate civilized and lively. We are fortunate that such an intelligent group of returning commenters make this a great place for a conversation, even when things get a bit heated.

After the dust settled, I, for one, was stunned to see this next comment, by Frolix8, who is new here, I believe...

I have thought long and hard about what I wish to say about Lisa McPherson's case. I am a former prosecutor as well as a former public defender. I was a prosecutor just shy of thirteen years. A public defender for a bit more than four.

I saw excellent cases collapse because of a single witness getting cold feet, being threatened, or changing his/her mind. On one occasion I had a child sexual assault victim who was so angry with the length of time it took to get to trial that the child made it clear if the child's testimony didn't start at 2:30 p.m. there would be no testimony (I juggled to get the testimony in on time -- we won).

In some cases the lab or a tech team would contaminate the evidence. Once a lab failed to report critical information until the day of the trial. It was so damaging the case had to be dismissed. Had we received the full report when we should have, it would not have been dismissed.

There are many cases where it goes sour. Ethically a prosecutor cannot take a case to trial that he/she doesn't believe can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Whether or not the prosecutor is certain as to the guilt of the defendant is irrelevant. The critical issue is whether the necessary evidence is available and whether it will be admitted. If it can't be done, then the case should not go to trial.

Myself and others in the office had to dismiss cases because we knew we wouldn't be able to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt. It is horrid. It is horrid to dismiss cases which you are certain happened. It is most horrid when it comes to a death. You will spend years with the pain of the dismissal. You will have seen the pain of the family and friends who were hurt and will continue to be hurt, knowing you could do nothing else.

The horror of Lisa's case was that a key witness essentially recanted. The medical evidence was critical to a successful prosecution. News of a witness going backward (pissing backward we'd say in private) was always a kick in the gut. How does one explain to the family that, yes, we know the defendant is guilty, but . . .

There is no explanation which is sufficient. There can't be. The defendant walks and the family and friends are in pain for the rest of their lives. It is being ethical. It is playing by the rules. It is not pleasant.

My mentor said that we as prosecutors were collectors of souls. We were. The souls of those whose cases where justice could not be done are forever with you.

Frolix8, please accept my thanks for taking the time to write this for us. And I hope you stick around.

On Tuesday, we offered some analysis of Michael Fairman's lawsuit against his chiropractor. Fairman claims that he was dumped as a patient once he was declared a suppressive person and joined the independent Scientology movement.

This is a bit of inside baseball, and I apologize for not taking the time to explain it for newcomers, but I had to chuckle at this question by hgc:

Is there such a thing as squirrel chiropractic?

On a more substantive note, Schockenawd offered this analysis:

It's payback time. In the early 90s, the Church of Scientology used the same law now being used against it -- the Unruh Civil Rights Act -- to sue the Cult Awareness Network out of existence. It was a massive campaign, in which hundreds of Scns wrote to the comparatively tiny CAN demanding membership. And when their requests were denied, they sued, claiming religious discrimination -- over and over again, in multiple courts throughout California. The courts mostly ruled against the Scientologists (in the first lawsuit, Scientologist Philip Hart "...failed to identify any state interest, let alone one which is sufficiently countervailing or compelling, as to justify the infringements on the constitutional rights of CAN-LA"). But the lawsuits were counted as a big win for Scientology anyway, because they were so expensive that they forced CAN into bankruptcy court, where the COS promptly purchased CAN's assets, including the name "Cult Awareness Network." Afterward, if you called the Cult Awareness Network to find help or comfort because your kid had disappeared with, say, the Moonies, your call would be answered by a Scientologist who would presumably either scold you for trying to infringe your child's religious freedom or try to sell you a book by LRH that would help you "handle" the situation.

On Wednesday, we reported that Valeska Paris had received a threat letter from Scientology's attorneys for speaking out about her time being held against her will on the Freewinds. I am repeatedly stunned by the amazing people who come to add to our commenting community. And never more so than this week, when I saw that Andre Tabayoyon had left a message...

Wow, history is repeating itself. In the early days on the ship, the lower holds always had a lost soul wandering around. Some were tied to a chair until they answered the auditing question. Some were just cleaning the bilges. It was part of the game then. We had a huge party on New Year's and we danced till the late hours, knowing we had prisoners in the lower hold. I also remember being on the RPF when TC was at the Gold base. We created a very nice meadow for him and Nicole. It was picture perfect. Tom and Nicole walking in the meadow, while within 100 feet RPF were slaving away.

I was in full agreement with Kate Bornstein, who reacted to Andre's comment with this...

It's good to hear your cybervoice, Andre.

On Thursday, we did our usual roundup of Scientology stories around the world. I don't know about the church, but I know that it always feels like my stats are up when I see a Jefferson Hawkins comment in the mix:

The video, pathetic as it is, is really a microcosm of Scientology itself. It was probably made to show to fellow Scientologists. It screams "Look at me! Look at me! See how badass I am! See how OT I am! I'm just like Tom Cruise! Watch how I can save the planet by reaching out to this sad sack, unhappy wog with my leather-clad wonderfulness." But the reality is an empty, shuttered building. Scientology claims over 300 of these local "missions" but when you actually go there, more often than not, you find they've closed. Well, that's just like Scientology as a whole - their leader, Miscavige, struts and postures at their internal events: "Look at me! Look at me! See how badass I am? I'm just like Tom Cruise!!" Meanwhile their orgs are empty, their missions are nonexistent, and members are leaving in droves. It's all about narcissism, image and appearances. The reality is quite something else.

One of our Thursday items was about Stacy Francis, who continues to deny that she's long been involved in Scientology. That brought out this reality check from VickySlyter:

I worked with Stacey Francis about 5 years ago at a fundraiser at Celebrity Centre. She was DEFINITELY a "group member" and was friends with all the other Scientologist celebrities who were performing at the event. She, herself, was treated like a celebrity. That she is now denying that she is a Scientologist is really odd. I bet CC and her Scn pals aren't too happy about it. The wittle hearts of those who work in "The President's Office" at CC must be broken....."after all they did for her!"

And finally, another installment of "This Week Aboard the Apollo" brought out plenty of howls from readers who can't get enough of L. Ron Hubbard's seaborne dissertations. We liked MarkStark's takeaway...

Doesn't reading this make you want to buy a bunch of bronze busts of Hubbard, at only $5700 each (discounted to $5100 if you are an IAS member), and put one in every room?

I don't know, Mark. For that price, can I get an LRH bust that is this manly?

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Remember to check back tomorrow morning for another installment of Sunday Funnies. We have a great set of wacky and tacky Scientology mailers for your perusal.


Tony Ortega is the editor-in-chief of The Village Voice. Since 1995, he's been writing about Scientology at several publications.

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FEATURED INVESTIGATIONS

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[Scientologists: How many of them are there, anyway?]
[Scientology hates clean ice: The "Fair Game" operation that should turn your stomach]
[Scientology hates clean ice, part 2: Another target, and the web as weapon]
[Paulette Cooper, Scientology's original and worst nightmare: a Thanksgiving tribute]

HELD ABOARD THE FREEWINDS: TALES OF THE SEA ORG

[Valeska Paris, held against her will from 1996 to 2007 on Scientology's cruise ship]
[Ramana Dienes-Browning, marriage at 16, sexual interrogation, life in the engine room]
[Melissa Paris, Valeska's sister: forced to marry at 16]

SCIENTOLOGY VS. SOUTH PARK: INVESTIGATION AS RETALIATION

[Scientology targeted South Park's Parker and Stone in an investigation]
[More documents in the South Park probe: instructions to send in a young mole]
[Scientology responds in typical fashion] | [Lloyd Kaufman confirms the probe]
[Mark Ebner also investigated after South Park involvement]
[Mark Chauppetta, private eye, explains what Scientology operatives look for]

MARTY RATHBUN AND THE SIEGE OF SOUTH TEXAS

[Scientology has Rathbun arrested] | [Rathbun and Mark Bunker reveal surprising ties]
In Germany with Ursula Caberta: [Announcing plans] | [Press conference] | [Making news about Tom Cruise, Bill Clinton, and Tony Blair] | [Post-trip interview]
The Squirrel Busters: [Goons with cameras on their heads] | [Rathbun's open letter to neighbors] | [Ingleside on the Bay, Texas rallies to Rathbun's cause] | [Squirrel Buster's claim to be making a "documentary"] | [VIDEO: "On a Boat"] | ["Anna" sent to creep out Monique Rathbun] | [Squirrel Busters go hillbilly] | [A videographer blows the whistle on the goon squad] | [Ed Bryan, OT VIII, shows the power of Scientology's highest levels]

SCIENTOLOGY SPYING AND "FAIR GAME"

[Secret Scientology documents spell out spying operation against Marc Headley]
[Scientology's West U.S. spies list revealed] | [Scientology's enemies list: Are you on it?]
Spy operation against Washington Post writer Richard Leiby: [Part 1] | [Part 2]
[A Scientology spy comes clean: Paulien Lombard's remarkable public confession]
[Scientology advertises for writers in Freedom magazine]
[Accidental leak shows Scientology spy wing plans to "handle" the Voice]
[Lori Hodgson and Disconnection: "No one's going to take my eternity away"]

SCIENTOLOGY AND CELEBRITIES

[Hey, Scientology Celebrity, Here's Your Media Training Checksheet!]
[Tom Cruise and X Factor's Stacy Francis singing together on the Freewinds]
[X Factor's Stacy Francis: Her first husband, Michael Sandlofer, answers abuse claims]
[Tom Cruise and Baby Suri embarrassed by news item, so someone must pay]
["Tom Cruise told me to talk to a bottle"] | [Tom Cruise likes coconut cake] | [Tom Cruise has a sense of humor] | ["Tom Cruise not a kook!"] | [Paulette Cooper on Tom Cruise]
[Paul Haggis, director of Crash, issues an ultimatum, leaves the church]
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[Giovanni Ribisi as David Koresh: Scientology-Branch Davidian link makes sense]
[Russell Brand weds ex-Scientologists in wild ceremony] | [Skip Press on Haggis]
[Placido Domingo Jr.: Scientology's retaliation is "scary and pathetic"]
Grant Cardone, NatGeo's "Turnaround King": [Doing Scientology's dirty work?] | [Milton Katselas complained about Cardone's smear job] | [Cardone runs to Huffpo]
[Philip Boyd, Saving Grace actor, rips "the business that is Scientology"]

JANET REITMAN'S INSIDE SCIENTOLOGY

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[Scientology doesn't like Inside Scientology] | [Q&A at Washington Post]
[A roundup of Reitman's print reviews, and why isn't she on television more?]

HUGH URBAN'S THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY

[A review of Urban's scholarly history of the church] | [An interview with Hugh Urban]

EX-SCIENTOLOGISTS SPEAK OUT

["The Money Machine": another blockbuster St. Pete Times investigation]
[Marc Headley: "Tom Cruise told me to talk to a bottle"] | [The Nancy Many interview]
[Sympathy for the Devil: Tory Christman's Story] | [Jeff Hawkins' Counterfeit Dreams]
[86 Million Thin Dimes: The Lawrence Wollersheim Saga] | [Mike Rinder on spying]

OVERSEAS NEWS

[Scientology in Israel: Arson, attempted murder, paranoia -- and a visit by the Voice!]
[Scientology dodges a bullet in Australia] | [Scientology exec Jan Eastgate arrested]
[All hell breaks loose in Israel] | [Scientology sees fundraising gold in the UK riots]
[Aussie former rugby pro Chris Guider calls David Miscavige "toxic" and "violent"]
[Stephen Cox, UK church newbie, pledges 20K pounds] | [Biggi Reichert: A German Lisa McPherson?] | [The Birmingham trove: 7,000 internal e-mails]
[Australian farmer blamed for giving Tom Cruise a bad shrimp, loses her friends, family]

ODD VIDEOS AND ODDER NEWS

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[Chill EB and me: the Voice interviews Scientology's in-house rapper]
[Scientology singalong, "We Stand Tall"] | [Captain Bill Robertson and "Galactic Patrol"]
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[When Scientology was hip] | [Sad: David Miscavige makes fun of his own fundraisers]
[Freedom magazine parodies The New Yorker. Hilarity ensues.]
[Scientology surf report: Anonymous parties outside the New York "org"]

THE VIEW INSIDE THE BUBBLE

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mike
mike

Frolix8:  "The horror of Lisa's case was that a key witness essentially recanted. The medical evidence was critical to a successful prosecution... How does one explain to the family that, yes, we know the defendant is guilty, but . . ."

I call "baloney".  The entire case was based on the "key witness", the Coroner.  The "key witness admitted to lying.  They backed out because there was no truth to their statements.  The "facts" of the case were patently untrue...that is a matter of record!

Just pathetic...

not this time
not this time

copypasta:

Meh, on the flipside - prosecutors & police who KNOW the villain did it, despite a lack of convincing presentable evidence, are responsible for pretty much all the cases of false convictions you've ever heard about. Those rules exist for a reason, and are good rules, developed over millenia to ensure Justice.

If the prosecution can't prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt, then that failing MUST lie on the prosecution and no other. The travesty of Lisa McPherson (in the legal arena, far greater travesties abound) is the failing of the prosecution to establish the blatant witness intimidation - to let the case go and shovel it into the 'too hard' basket despite what was blatantly going on.

The moment we start to rely on police or prosecution 'certainty' is the moment we throw Justice to the aircurrents of whomever can source the highest wattage fans.

Peter
Peter

Scientology's stance that the brain cannot be dysfunctional is a lie!

JustCallMeMary
JustCallMeMary

Thanks for these terrrific comments. Glad to see new commenters, especially those who have had similar experiences to share.

There are stories to be told, years after one had long since left the cult. One never forgets the insanity. Never.

notgoingpublic
notgoingpublic

"How about be like TC and ask "Show me the money" does it come from rich targetted scios who children become SO members or they get sent to the RPF - like Vicky Dickey and NZ org is astill empty on Carlton Gore rd - with unstable foundations. purchased in 2007 for $12 million. Or maybe it came from Laurisse Stuckenbrocks family - NZ people, or some featured in the dumbleton-powles report which documents 1969 activities and is so much like dejavu of current stories such as Valeska - would pay to read it '1969' and the same stuff. SAME STUFF DIFFERENT DECADE.

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

What a week. Lisa McPherson's Tribute really got my blood boiling. If channeled correctly, anger can be a benefit and that's exactly what I did with a house full of friends. $cientology and Lisa McPherson was the main topic all through the night and I am proud to say, "I have inoculated all of them."

Actually, the mass inoculation wasn't very hard once they saw Lisa's autopsy photos, some even cried.

I hope more ex-Scientologist come forward with their stories exposing the cult because a lot of us so called wogs (95 of my friends) really do care about you and your well-being.

Strelnikov
Strelnikov

What happened to all the Chuck Beatty comments?

Scratch that; I see they've been moved into place.

I always though those busts of Hubbard were idiotic; the lumpy shoulders make him look like a tow-truck driver with his shirt off, and the head looks like an orangatang. Arno Brecker made better statues for the Nazis.

The Librarian
The Librarian

You are being duped, by these articles and all the information. 

Scientology, is much like the CIA in their use of media, and press, to twist the reality, so a "coupe" can occur.... I know, I have worked for the later for many years in 'finance'.Heres a future prediction.......when the Church Falls, Miscavige will be replaced by Marty Rathbun.......and all his henchmen...who by the way, were Miscaviges henchmen for so many years........and the silly game, will begin "anew"....Its the same strategy as Wall Street corporations, when they lose popularity with the public....."restructure and resell" the same products....under a "new brand"

Chuckbeatty77
Chuckbeatty77

Really, look at the history progress.   IN one week, Andre Tab, Jeff Hawkins, a former prosecuter, and the ever cutting edge smart observers commenting, in a venue that now thousands of ex members and families of members still in, Tony, thankyou!

Thankyou Village Voice,  thankyou Andre, Jeff, former prosecuter, thankyou Tikk!!!!

Tony, please get to Jesse Prince!   Get something on Jesse's views on Pat Broeker, let's somehow get Pat Broeker into the public, talking!

If Andre, Jeff, Jesse, Hana, so many long term people ARE willing to talk, for sure Pat Broeker can be stirred to notice it IS okay for Pat to talk.

Tony, you do a lot of good!   Can't thank you enough. 

Xenu
Xenu

"For that price, can I get an LRH bust that is this manly?"

I want a set of statues.  I want an orange-haired Lenin, a short little Stalin, and one of Trotsky as he wards off the Squirrel Busters.

I don't think I'll follow through, though.  That would be trivializing the memories of people who were played important roles in human history.

Richard Dineen
Richard Dineen

Tony, I love your huevos in reporting on abuses in Scientology while so many others are cowed into silence.  I joined the Sea Org the very end of 1968 when I did my doubt formula in 1972 and decided to leave I was assigned the Condition of Enemy and locked in the basement and fed only bread and water while I wrote up my overts and withholds.  This lasted for 3 days when I realized that the only one I was “in enemy to was myself for putting up with this b.s...   Luckily Hubbard had not come out with his slave labor camps yet, a.k.a. the RPF, but there were earlier sadistic precursors like “over boarding” (which I experienced aboard the Apollo in the Mediterranean) and the “mud box brigade” which were absolutely punishment for real or suspected transgressions.  I was able to force the door and escape.  By the way, they had my passport as well although I was working on land at the time.  Valeska Paris, Marc Headley, Ramana Dienes-Brown, and the others who have had the courage to report this are absolutely believable.  It is actually worse than most report and the “powers that be” in Scientology consistently lie and deny what has been going almost since the beginning.

minion1
minion1

Hi all,

What a great community that T.O. has bought together though his relentless day-after-day reporting.  Keeping the story alive day-after-day feels so incredibly powerful and inspiring.

I am a research assistant minion for a novelist.

IMMEDIATE NEED:

To speed up my research, does anyone have (or could you point me to) the detailed calendar of all Scientology events, holidays, and celebrations?

A partial calendar list is fine if that is all you have.

SYNOPSIS:

The novelist I work for is currently working on a novel about a 17-year-old female Sea Org member who starts having serious doubts about staying a Sea Org member after she witnesses a crime involving a high-ranking Sea Org member of the OSA... the crime takes place backstage in the auditorium at an Org she is visiting to set up an LRH Birthday celebration.

It is about her struggle to report it to her Senior, to keep it to herself, or to report it directly to the police,... while showing the reader her viewpoint in her cloistered world and how she perceives the outside world and how she perceives those who are not scientologists.

The backdrop of the novel is a fictional "dystopia 2012 America" wherein the following is happening...

* The big bankers are buying up the massive debts of cities and towns all over America thus "owning" the assets (property and equipment) of said cities and towns.

* All 401Ks and IRAs (i.e., all private "nest eggs" secured by paper) have been wiped out.

* Debates are raging by local officials about how much to cut back on the pensions of police men and fire men. The public school teachers' pensions: already wiped out.

* Welfare recipients and foodstamp recipients and social security recipients are still receiving their benefits from the federal government (but without "cost of living increases (COLA)") so as to preemptively reduce and manage -- with limited troops, the amount of rioting in the streets. Small business owners are defending themselves with guns.

* Military check points are every where (airports, truck stops, shopping malls) and detention camps a being set up.

Thanks everyone!

hkhenson
hkhenson

Frolix8, commented:

"The horror of Lisa's case was that a key witness essentially recanted.The medical evidence was critical to a successful prosecution."

 

That was Dr. Joan Wood, the (now dead) medical examiner.  If you Googleon "Joan Wood" LSD, you get this:

 

"$25 million to a certain Washington DC law firm to hirebagmen to dose Joan Wood the coroner in the Lisa case with LSD and psychotropicdrugs to drive her crazy... and get her incarcerated in a mental institution ala Paulette Cooper Operation FREAKOUT."

 

It's now known Dr. Wood spent about a year in the Morton Plant Hospital mental ward after a sudden event at her home.

 

http://groups.google.com/group...

 

Being dosed with LSD when you have no experience with it canbe life destroying.  Around 1980 there was a report about a Marine embassyguard the CIA had dosed (and questioned about missing documents) a couple of decades before.  The guardsuffered many years from the experience.

 

If you dig round on the net, there is a report by the Scientology guy whodid it about dosing a "psych" before he delivered a talk inLondon.  The method was to inject the LSD into the victim's toothpaste.

 

It is very likely the cult doesed Tom Klemesrud with chloral hydrate. Here is his declaration on the subject. http://www.operatingthetan.com...

 

Arnie Lerma was also a target of LSD toothpaste following the Scientologyraid on his house.  Arnie was familiar with the effects of"Acid" and suffered no long term adverse effects.

 

Scientology doesn't pull these stunts very often, butit is worth being aware of them.

Alanzo
Alanzo

Another great week at the Village Voice, Ground Zero for the future of Scientology.

We hold its eternity in our hands.

(Sorry...too creepy?)

MarkStark
MarkStark

Going to sleep in a room where a bust of LRH is present would be like trying to put out the sun with a bucket of gasoline.

Hubbard's original immortal quote on child rearing is: Affection could no more spoil a child than the sun could be put out by a bucket of gasoline.

Affection = gasoline = Mercedes Benz

Gasoline could no more spoil a Mercedes, than a child could be put out by a bucket of brainwashing.

I'm toying with ideas for a future novel -- it's going to be greater than the wheel or fire -- inspired by the Fairman case:

An Indie SP Scilebrity squirrel is clonked over the head with a bronze bust of LRH by a devoted Sciloontologist, and undergoes multiple and severe subluxation. His Sci-chiro... terminal fluxation capacity...Marty Rathbun's wife Mosie... Xenu...gasoline... THE END.

anon987
anon987

Of all the many sites to find stories about the abuses of scientology the Village Voice is one of the best for people new to the fray. The format makes the information accessible and the stories are well written and very well researched. Good for the n00bies to dive into. Thanks TonyO. Keep up the good work.

TheGuestt
TheGuestt

My thanks as well to Frolix8.  Your deep and reflective statement is as rare as a scientology admission of guilt. 

Chuck Beatty
Chuck Beatty

My fault, I changed my name to Got Xenu, fixed now. 

MarkStark
MarkStark

Let's face it, LRH's head is not something you want hanging around in your house anyway. If I had to have one, I'd just tell people it was Beethoven. He was fugly too.

It's debatable what would do more damage to a society of alien smokers, drawn in by the cult's Kool symbol at Trementina. Unearthing this head or a copy of Dianutty on stainless steel encased in titanium. I'd go with the head, unless they get sick from laughing at Dianutty.

Scene I:

BC is riding from the airport to Flag, and LRH's head is pulled from a box:

[Elbow nudge] "Want to buy an LRH head, to save the planet?"

Or, they could make it a test of OTIII readiness:

"If you don't buy at least one head, you aren't ready to receive the knowledge of the sacred Xenu, and you might get pneumonia and die too."

"How many LRH heads can I put you down for? Twenty?"

They'd sell a million.

You may scoff, but when the Scilons take over the government, it's going to be an LRH head in every pot, or else. So, buy several now, at only $5700 each, and give them to your friends and relatives because prices will go up.

The IAS did a marketing survey on possible interest in bronze busts of David Miscavige's fine head. He has beautiful hair. Interest was low among the membership, but there were some anonymous inquiries about busting him and busting his head.

The IAS does not condone crime or violence in others and suggests that people support IAS social betterment programs by purchasing a set of space-loon quality commemorative plates, celebrating historic moments from LRH's life on the whole track:

1. Almost Being Hit by a Freight Train on Venus2. Gasket Blows and Splashed in Face with Rocket Fuel3. Race Car Driver for the Marcabians

These will be an inspiration for all, and keep families together for an eternity, or until someone is declared, whichever comes first. For a limited time only, they are $753 each and must be purchased in a set of thirty, before it's too late.

sketto
sketto

I agree. I think that it's likely that Miscavige will never truly face punishment. Hubbard proved that you can dodge both the law and reality for a good long while if you have boatloads of cash. Those expecting justice is coming soon need to reset their clocks. Taking down this level of corruption takes a very long time and the ultimate resolution is usually quite unsatisfying. 

Alistair
Alistair

I want the Special Edition Life-Size Full-Body Statue of David Miscavige -- Complete With Angry Glowing Eyes!

sketto
sketto

"going on since the beginning"

Of course, it has. Hubbard was a nasty, vindictive man. Yet the Independent Scientologists still like to pretend that the evil shit only started with Miscavige.

Warrior
Warrior

Hi, Richard! It's great to hear from you again!

Chuckbeatty77
Chuckbeatty77

Richard,

If you are not in touch with Professor Stephen Kent, please you, and anyone else willing to detail life in the other Sea Org incarnations of the "RPF", contact Professor Kent.

Or just google him, find his university and his articles, and contact info.   He's the world's expert on the RPF, and would gladly like your writings and interview you on the Mudbox Brigade history (the Mudbox Brigade has been thankfully eternally already preserved in the green hardback Scientology administrative dictionary, so the relation to the RPF is in the public domain a tiny bit of it).  

email me, I'll send anyone Kent's contact info.   Kent accepts people's donation of  their Scientology historical materials to Kent also, because his University of Alberta, has likely the most significant trove of Scientology materials in the world, outside official Scientology.    There's an article online with a photo showing Kent in the building where his University has gathered a huge trove of new religion materials.  

I'll network anyone to anyone, and give contact info and advice in any direction people wish to take their offered help!

chuckbeatty77(at)aol(dot)com   866-XSEAORG

Alanzo
Alanzo

It's great to hear your story, Mr. Dineen.

What must be really troubling for David Miscavige is how many stories exist like yours, and like Marc Headley's and Claire Headley's and Ms. Dienes-Brown's. And Valeska's and so many many others.

I have to ask, one more time:

Why hasn't law enforcement done anything about kidnapping and false imprisonment in Scientology?

Chuckbeatty77
Chuckbeatty77

Call me, I'll network writers to anyone they wish.   412-260-1170 Chuck Beatty, ex Sea Org, and history promoter of the Scientology movement.1975-2003    chuckbeatty77(at)aol(dot)com

Duncan
Duncan

You're going to have to better than than that.  Your bad grammar screams OSA. Your crap synopsis something worse.  As a fly trap you even stink.  Get back to your beans and rice

Yeppir
Yeppir

NYPA. Good luck.

MarkStark
MarkStark

Google: Scientology holidays wiki

That has the complete list.

Also, you aren't serious about this author setting the novel in 2012 are you? By the time it comes out, 2012 will be gone and it will seem very weird. Other than that, sounds like a good plot and setting.

CofS Exit Zone
CofS Exit Zone

Scientology doesn't need fictionalized, and your novelist obviously hired the wrong research assistant if your too lazy to actually do the heavy lifting you were hired for yourself.

Yeppir
Yeppir

Creepy? In a good way...

Got Xenu?
Got Xenu?

If this Voice series of Tony's articles, and all the comments from the rich history of ex members and players along Scientology's young 60 years of history, IF this body of journalism and public "letters" (comments) is allowed to STAY in the public domain, then in all my years of experience trying to get people talking, THIS Village Voice online stash on Scientology IS the best source of leads to the people who lived and are willing to talk raw history.   Bar none.   Which is why I think we all would have voted Tony as the number  1 person most significant to how Scientology changes/dies/slithers on, etc.   Can't thank Tony and the Voice for allowing the ongoing Scientology raw history story to be shared!  Couldn't agree with you more, anon987!

Xenu
Xenu

I wonder... Does Mr. Dineen's story really bother David Miscavige?  That stuff happened when DM was an 8-12 year old wog, and Hubbard was running the show.  Stories from that period serve to remind me that, when it comes to brutality, DM is still "on Source."

minion1
minion1

Thanks Chuck!  And, thanks to every one for the comments!

(And, man, talk about me getting "bitch slapped" by the negative comments. Alright, I'll first fucking google before ever posting what i now know to be a simplistic question. Note: I and the novelist are NOT scientologists. Just noobs! Jesus, tuff crowd, Sammy.)

We are trying to put together a novel part-time with no money. We will probably self-published and only released it via pdf/kindle -- using pseudonyms. We are hacks and proud of it.  And, the story "will take place in 'dystopian 2012 America'" even if we publish damn thing in 2013 -- 'cuz the year 2012 is a magical year-number.  Yes, it will include an "October surprise" that will guarantee the incumbent president re-election.

What is great is that both the positive and negative comments put me in the ball park on what to google in general re: scientology.  And, to all i say thanks for that!

And, if a movie ever gets made of the novel, I, personally, would like the closing credits to roll with this song by written by Band of Horses...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... 

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

Duncan, bad grammar isn't always a for sure indicator someone is OSA.

I mean, 'talkin 'bout bad grammar. I am the Village Voice idiot when it comes to bad grammar and I'm not OSA scum. :-(

Chuckbeatty77
Chuckbeatty77

Agreed, there are so many more funny scnenarios one could conjure up.   A Law and Order episode about the OSA PI teams intervening in a massive class action suit against COS, with details from Marty and Mike on actual past operations against the likes of Graham Berry, Ford Greene, et al, in the 1990s.   I mean, were some serious ballsy TV people in LA wishing to do some good shit, we got the ex members to talk the talk for them!

MarkStark
MarkStark

Any novel would be fine, but a major popular novelist using that as a plot would be phenomenal.  A novelist should hire someone like Chuck Beatty though, rather than using assistants who don't know how to use the web to do research. Chuck would do it for a very reasonable rate I'm sure, and he could make sure it wasn't far off the realm of the way things work in the Sea Org.

Reitman's book or Wright's book could inspire a whole new crop of books. Novels are good because sometimes people who read novels don't care about religion or cults, and this gets them interested in reading the real stories and history.

sketto
sketto

Absolutely. I always say that Miscavige is exactly the end result of following Hubbard's tech perfectly. There no reason to think the next leader won't be just like the first two were - nasty, brutish, and indifferent to real human suffering.

CofS Exit Zone
CofS Exit Zone

"Any novel would be fine, but a major popular novelist using that as a plot would be phenomenal."

FWIW, the LRH cult angle has already been done, google "Blasphemy" by Douglas Preston. Granted that's not the Sea Org specifically, which might indeed make an interesting plot line.

But if a novelist hires a research assistant that is too lazy to do their own work, as a researchfag that's been slugging her way thru this material for years - I have little faith it's anyone popular otherwise they would have of hired somebody who was capable of diving right in & getting busy due to the mountains of info on Scientology revealed in recent years.

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