Tom Cruise Denies Paying for Indian Extras to Cheer Him, And More Thursday Scientology Stats!

Each Thursday at 2 pm, Scientology staffers rush to turn in their weekly statistics. We like to do our part by rounding up the week's stories around the world and tallying up how the church fared.

This week, we have items from India to Australia, but first, friendly correspondent Angry Gay Pope sends us this priceless promotional video from what was Scientology's Melrose Mission in Los Angeles.

AGP has watched as Scientology opened the boutique org on one of LA's fanciest shopping arteries. He speculates that the micro-location (Scientology already has plenty of bigger facilities around the LA basin) was the result of a celebrity donation. Well, whatever prompted the new branch, it's now closed.

Its legacy: this video of sexy Scientology lady superheroes saving the planet. Hey, where do I sign up for a stress test?

Thursday's Stats: Upstat or Downstat? In the category of promotional Scientology videos, this one isn't as embarrassing as others that we've seen. It's overly long and badly edited, and it doesn't make us cringe as much as, say, the Dede from Phoenix classic. It's really more interesting to see another mission close its doors. Church leader David Miscavige, in October at the big annual meeting of the International Association of Scientologists, was bragging yet again about Scientology's international expansion. But closed doors and dark buildings tell another story. Have to give call this a solid downstat for the church.


Story #2: Tom Cruise and his Mumbai "Fans"

The Hollywood Reporter has a good story explaining the humorous flap over the premiere of Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol, which occurred in Mumbia, India. Some local newspapers there of indefinable repute had caused a stir by claiming that Tom Cruise was somewhat unknown in the country, and so the actor (or his studio) took no chances and hired extras to cheer him. One story had him renting fans for his airport arrival, another claimed that he'd paid extras about $3 each to cheer him at the premiere.

Both stories are untrue, say the company arranging Tom's tour there, as well as Paramount Pictures. Tom is plenty famous in India, and doesn't need to pay fans to show up and cheer him.

Thursday's Stats: Upstat or Downstat? The church itself never came up in these stories, but since Cruise became Mr. Scientology, anything that makes him look bad also reflects on the organization. Even with the denials, this one left behind a whiff of plausibility, which reflects either on Tom's current reputation, or our cynicism, not sure which. Let's just call this one a wash for the church.


Story #3, Clearwater Credence Revival

So apparently there's a nice music venue in Clearwater, Florida which goes by the name Ruth Eckerd Hall. (I think I saw somewhere that it's the largest capacity venue in town -- readers, let me know if that's correct in the comments.) Anyway, the Hall, a non-profit organization, scheduled a benefit concert for January that would raise money to help restore the Capitol Theater, another local venue. Performing at that concert would be singer David Pomeranz.

The trouble started when announcements of the show were sent to the Hall's entire subscriber list, some of whom immediately recognized that Pomeranz is a Scientologist, and the show in January was being sponsored by the church.

Some subscribers were alarmed not just that they had been invited to a Scientology event, but that perhaps their information was now on a Scientology mailing list (and we all know what it means to be on a Scientology mailing list).

Those complaints were so vocal, the Hall's CEO had to send out another message, assuring subscribers that "the Church does not have access to any of your personal information." A few hours after that, the show was cancelled entirely.

Thursday's Stats: Upstat or Downstat? Following just several weeks after the city of Clearwater itself hit Scientology with a $400,000 fine for dragging its feet on its "Super Power Building" construction, here again is another sign of just how much Scientology is loved in its own spiritual home. Even in this case, when the church was just trying to pitch in and help with a local civic project, the resentment of local non-church residents was loud and clear. Talk about a downstat!


Story #4: Stacy Francis Still Sailing De Nile

After getting booted from X Factor, Stacy Francis finally gave an interview and addressed all of the criticism she was hearing from folks who didn't buy the backstory she told on national television. The 42-year-old presented herself as someone who had never really had a shot at show business, had been pushed around by a husband who told her she'd never amount to anything, and for years had just sung in the shower while holding on to her dream.

Almost immediately, that story unraveled. Francis had actually been in show business almost continuously for more than a decade. She'd sung in Broadway productions, she'd sung backup to stars like Madonna and Chaka Khan. She'd even been in a reality television production before. But what caught our interest was her extensive background in Scientology, another thing she left out of her biography. For years, our sources told us, she'd been a regular at the Hollywood Celebrity Centre, hanging out with Chaka Khan, or being photographed with Louis Farrakhan. And then there was the videotape of Francis performing at the infamous 2004 birthday gala for Tom Cruise about Scientology's cruise ship, the Freewinds. This woman had a long and involved history with the church.

In the interview, however, this is how she responded when asked about what we had written:

TVLINE: Probably the most negative attention of all was focused on you singing at Tom Cruise's birthday party.

STACY FRANCIS: All of the sudden I was a Scientologist. Or she sang for Tom Cruise, therefore she's a celebrity and she knows everybody. And then I sang in a choir on a one-shot deal for Madonna. And the reason I was getting these sort of celebrity gigs is because a lady at my church has those relationships, and she was filtering me in on some of those things. But the Madonna thing I didn't get paid for. It was one-shot. And the Tom Cruse thing I think I got paid for, but I didn't know where I was going and I didn't know Tom and I don't know him now.

Tsk. Tsk. What is it about Scientologists that they feel too ashamed to admit the extent of their involvement? Doesn't this pain church leader David Miscavige that a woman who has spent years at his Celebrity Centre, performing at various events, now tries to make it sound like she was just some hired warbler flown out for a party with a guest of honor she doesn't even know? My, my.

Thursday's Stats: Upstat or Downstat? While this seems to reflect badly on Scientology -- that one of its more talented adherents continues to kick it to the curb -- we have to conclude once again that Stacy Francis is yesterday's news and really doesn't matter one way or the other. Another wash.


Story #5: Even Conservatives Down Under are Piling On

We've been reporting for some time what a difficult environment Australia is becoming for Scientology. The president of its anti-psychiatry front group, the Citizens Commission on Human Rights, is facing trial there, accused of trying to cover up child molestation. The government continues to prod and probe the organization, looking into allegations of abuse. And just lately some Australian ex-Sea Org members have been speaking out in a big way, adding to the church's headache there.

This week, we noticed what seemed like a throwaway item, but as slight as it is, it also points to just how bad Scientology's reputation has become in the land of Oz.

It was something written by one of Australia's most well-known conservative politicians, Malcolm Turnbull, who, wanting to convey to his readers just how inappropriately secretive and obstructionist is the country's high-speed Internet contractor, NBN, wrote this on his blog:

As it is, the NBN Co projects a defensive and non-transparent approach, which seems like a cross between the Kremlin and the Church of Scientology.

D'oh! Now, I wanted to make sure I had a handle on Turnbull's politics and background, so I turned to Australian journalist Bryan Seymour, who gave me a very helpful primer. Here's just a portion of it:

Malcolm became the leader of the Liberal Party [Australia's version of the Republican Party] after they lost Government in 2007 and was considered the prodigal son. He "betrayed" the faithful, however, by acting and voting with his conscious.... Malcolm was dumped as leader but is still regarded as the most capable, and he is demonstrably the most able thinker, in Australia's conservative movement. Whether or not he returns as leader of the Liberal Party and, possibly, Prime Minister will depend largely on what he and those around him are willing to accept.

Hm. So over here, who does that sound like? Perhaps in the comments, our readers could fill in the blank: "This would be like American leading conservative (but go-it-alone) politician [BLANK] saying that a major American corporation was so secretive, it was like the Church of Scientology."

Thursday's Stats: Upstate or Downstat? In Australia, this kind of quip just cements in the public's mind that Scientology is about as trustworthy as the Kremlin. Yikes. When conservative politicians (who, for some reason, tend to be friendly to Scientology here in the States) are saying things like that, you know the church has it bad there. A big -- if geographically regional -- downstat!

Well, another bummer week for Scientology. But that seems a common refrain lately, doesn't it? Come on, Miscavige, things have to get better next week. Right?



Tony Ortega is the editor-in-chief of The Village Voice. Since 1995, he's been writing about Scientology at several publications.

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SCIENTOLOGY IN THE VILLAGE VOICE

[All recent stories] | [Top 25 People Crippling Scientology] | [Commenters of the Week] [Thursday 2pm Stats!] | [Scientology vs. South Park] | [This Week Aboard the Apollo]
[Sunday Funnies]

FEATURED INVESTIGATIONS

[Scientology spokesman Tommy Davis secretly recorded discussing "disconnection"]
[Benjamin Ring, LA deputy sheriff, wants you to spend your 401K on Scientology]
[Scientologists: How many of them are there, anyway?]
[Scientology hates clean ice: The "Fair Game" operation that should turn your stomach]
[Scientology hates clean ice, part 2: Another target, and the web as weapon]
[Paulette Cooper, Scientology's original and worst nightmare: a Thanksgiving tribute]

HELD ABOARD THE FREEWINDS: TALES OF THE SEA ORG

[Valeska Paris, held against her will from 1996 to 2007 on Scientology's cruise ship]
[Ramana Dienes-Browning, marriage at 16, sexual interrogation, life in the engine room]
[Melissa Paris, Valeska's sister: forced to marry at 16]

SCIENTOLOGY VS. SOUTH PARK: INVESTIGATION AS RETALIATION

[Scientology targeted South Park's Parker and Stone in an investigation]
[More documents in the South Park probe: instructions to send in a young mole]
[Scientology responds in typical fashion] | [Lloyd Kaufman confirms the probe]
[Mark Ebner also investigated after South Park involvement]
[Mark Chauppetta, private eye, explains what Scientology operatives look for]

MARTY RATHBUN AND THE SIEGE OF SOUTH TEXAS

[Scientology has Rathbun arrested] | [Rathbun and Mark Bunker reveal surprising ties]
In Germany with Ursula Caberta: [Announcing plans] | [Press conference] | [Making news about Tom Cruise, Bill Clinton, and Tony Blair] | [Post-trip interview]
The Squirrel Busters: [Goons with cameras on their heads] | [Rathbun's open letter to neighbors] | [Ingleside on the Bay, Texas rallies to Rathbun's cause] | [Squirrel Buster's claim to be making a "documentary"] | [VIDEO: "On a Boat"] | ["Anna" sent to creep out Monique Rathbun] | [Squirrel Busters go hillbilly] | [A videographer blows the whistle on the goon squad] | [Ed Bryan, OT VIII, shows the power of Scientology's highest levels]

SCIENTOLOGY SPYING AND "FAIR GAME"

[Secret Scientology documents spell out spying operation against Marc Headley]
[Scientology's West U.S. spies list revealed] | [Scientology's enemies list: Are you on it?]
Spy operation against Washington Post writer Richard Leiby: [Part 1] | [Part 2]
[A Scientology spy comes clean: Paulien Lombard's remarkable public confession]
[Scientology advertises for writers in Freedom magazine]
[Accidental leak shows Scientology spy wing plans to "handle" the Voice]
[Lori Hodgson and Disconnection: "No one's going to take my eternity away"]

SCIENTOLOGY AND CELEBRITIES

[Hey, Scientology Celebrity, Here's Your Media Training Checksheet!]
[Tom Cruise and X Factor's Stacy Francis singing together on the Freewinds]
[X Factor's Stacy Francis: Her first husband, Michael Sandlofer, answers abuse claims]
[Tom Cruise and Baby Suri embarrassed by news item, so someone must pay]
["Tom Cruise told me to talk to a bottle"] | [Tom Cruise likes coconut cake] | [Tom Cruise has a sense of humor] | ["Tom Cruise not a kook!"] | [Paulette Cooper on Tom Cruise]
[Paul Haggis, director of Crash, issues an ultimatum, leaves the church]
[Character actor Jason Beghe defects noisily] | [Actor Michael Fairman reveals his "suppressive person" declaration] | [Michael Fairman talks to the Voice]
[Giovanni Ribisi as David Koresh: Scientology-Branch Davidian link makes sense]
[Russell Brand weds ex-Scientologists in wild ceremony] | [Skip Press on Haggis]
[Placido Domingo Jr.: Scientology's retaliation is "scary and pathetic"]
Grant Cardone, NatGeo's "Turnaround King": [Doing Scientology's dirty work?] | [Milton Katselas complained about Cardone's smear job] | [Cardone runs to Huffpo]
[Philip Boyd, Saving Grace actor, rips "the business that is Scientology"]

JANET REITMAN'S INSIDE SCIENTOLOGY

[Our review of Inside Scientology] | [An interview with Janet Reitman] | [A report from Reitman's first book tour appearance] | [At the Half-King: Reitman not afraid]
[Scientology doesn't like Inside Scientology] | [Q&A at Washington Post]
[A roundup of Reitman's print reviews, and why isn't she on television more?]

HUGH URBAN'S THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY

[A review of Urban's scholarly history of the church] | [An interview with Hugh Urban]

EX-SCIENTOLOGISTS SPEAK OUT

["The Money Machine": another blockbuster St. Pete Times investigation]
[Marc Headley: "Tom Cruise told me to talk to a bottle"] | [The Nancy Many interview]
[Sympathy for the Devil: Tory Christman's Story] | [Jeff Hawkins' Counterfeit Dreams]
[86 Million Thin Dimes: The Lawrence Wollersheim Saga] | [Mike Rinder on spying]

OVERSEAS NEWS

[Scientology in Israel: Arson, attempted murder, paranoia -- and a visit by the Voice!]
[Scientology dodges a bullet in Australia] | [Scientology exec Jan Eastgate arrested]
[All hell breaks loose in Israel] | [Scientology sees fundraising gold in the UK riots]
[Aussie former rugby pro Chris Guider calls David Miscavige "toxic" and "violent"]
[Stephen Cox, UK church newbie, pledges 20K pounds] | [Biggi Reichert: A German Lisa McPherson?] | [The Birmingham trove: 7,000 internal e-mails]
[Australian farmer blamed for giving Tom Cruise a bad shrimp, loses her friends, family]

ODD VIDEOS AND ODDER NEWS

[Scientology chillin' with hip hop!] | [The curious career of Scientology rapper Chill EB]
[Chill EB and me: the Voice interviews Scientology's in-house rapper]
[Scientology singalong, "We Stand Tall"] | [Captain Bill Robertson and "Galactic Patrol"]
[Scientology wins a major award!] | [Scientology wants your money: Meet Dede!]
[Birmingham in the House! The "Ideal" dance mix] | [Scientology and the Nation of Islam]
[When Scientology was hip] | [Sad: David Miscavige makes fun of his own fundraisers]
[Freedom magazine parodies The New Yorker. Hilarity ensues.]
[Scientology surf report: Anonymous parties outside the New York "org"]

THE VIEW INSIDE THE BUBBLE

[A scientologist's letter to the Voice and its readers] | [Scientology silent birth]
[Tad Reeves: Scientology might listen to this guy] | [More Tad Reeves and family]
[Scientology never forgets: A heartwarming telemarketing holiday miracle]
[Desperate Scientology fundraising caught on video]



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jackemallindias
jackemallindias

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Tye Solaris
Tye Solaris

You Know, Cruise is getting a bit of a score card here...

He really seems to like to have people work for him for little or nothing..

How's that "Tricked Out" SUV doing ???

Tye Solaris
Tye Solaris

This Stacy Francis thing....

just a little more than confused here...regarding the T.Cruise Birthday Cruise... with Video.

She does not know where her performance will be?

She must have been a little surprised when she was askedto fly to South America...

Performs on a Private Stage for several hours on a Private Yachtfor a Private Audience for an Internationally Famous Movie Star...

And She does not KNOW if She got paid or not???

WOW!

She is Definitely Sea Org Material.

They LOVE people who work Anywhere, Anytime, for FREE. 

Scientia
Scientia

3 hookers, 2 meters and 1 failed Mission. Another success story for the Cult of Miscavige.

mjm
mjm

FYI: Kelly Preston is going to be on Good Morning America this morning shilling for Kirstie's weight loss crap.

anybody going to go to the ABC Studios to troll her?

SPwithgoodTA
SPwithgoodTA

I watched Scientology "Melrose Angels" video in its entirety.

It was like a bad dream for:

- Good Scientologist- Independent Scientologist- Ex Scientologist- Non-Scientologist (Wog)- list goes on...

It's not funny, it's not smart, it's not spiritual and it's not sexy either.The whole thing is a total wreck, despite of trying to be all of the above things.

There some Scientology PSA's, that actually are very professionally done and they hitall the right buttons. Even critics will like them for a few seconds.

This video is definitely not one of them, it's horrendous and pathetic, all at the same time.

Someone is doing/did lower conditions because of it. And I hope they leave the cult soon.

I heard Melrose Mission was closed in September 2011.

What happened to "Melrose Angels"?

I hope they have Internet access.

Hai, OSA!    

Superstarcali
Superstarcali

All of this press is great press for the Organization!   Even though it is written in a derogatory manner, it still sparks major interest to people all over the world and keeps it in the headlines constantly! Every hear that there is no such thing as bad press? Well this is definitely one of those things.  The amount of time spent researching a religion that you guys can't stand really perplexes me . It seems to me like you are more interested the more you learn. Why would anyone spend so much time on something that they thought flawed and served no purpose. Definitely this site and these stories.. are working FOR the religion.  thank you!

OTVIIIisGrrr8!
OTVIIIisGrrr8!

We in RTC can most assuredly inform readers that the Church is in POWER on all dynamics. This past week we printed over six hundred miles of books in 1,247 languages and produced 101,598,209 Scientology DVD's in 1,390 languages.

We added last week's production to our existing stockpile of 889,126,023 books and 554,707,991 books and DVD's that we have ready to ship in our warehouses. Yes. We do indeed have all of these books and DVD's ready to ship at a moments notice. This is a tremendous pile of MEST that we will ship as soon as donations are received.

Sarasota Breeze
Sarasota Breeze

It should be against the law for these people to own video cameras.

Chuckbeatty77
Chuckbeatty77

Scientology is such a pretentious label.  

It sounds like the subject is trying to pull a fast one.

Scientology as a word has built in  downstat vibes.  

hgc
hgc

Tony, re: Stacy Francis... I have never heard of her until you wrote about her, I have no interest in reality teevee and I have no patience for attention seeking, blubbering women. Having said all that, I don't think you have cause to pick on her to the extent that you do.

The past gigs that you describe, including the Cruise birthday cruise, don't constitute already "being in show business." She has every right to be private about her religion, regardless of what it is. She and her ex-husband's contradictory claims about how he treated her are inscrutable to our judgement. In short, lay off. By all means, continue to crucify the truly deserving Scieno celebs, and keep up the good work!

NCSP
NCSP

I think it's about time for us critics to start trying to reach Scientologists and at-risk members of the public with a series of YouTube videos spreading the inspirational and powerful message: It Gets Worse.

Sid
Sid

Is she saying at 2:49 that if you sell your Mercedes and sell your house then you might have enough money to get up the Bridge?

Dion8376
Dion8376

Dear Mr. Ortega, on the topic of 'secretive organizations,' if you won't display my comment, then perhaps you might tell your comment groupies here why you will not display my comment to you about this piece. 

Dion8376
Dion8376

First, Mr. Ortega, these types of posts by you are A) balanced journalism? or B) personal and biased smear campaign? We both know the answer to that, so I'll move on to the second point, you and your 2-5 person commenting throng below are living in a fantasy world devoid of the attention to facts. Does that concern ANYONE here? 1. The "Melrose video": Submitted to you by a repeat criminal offender, and you don't even have confirmation that this was an official video! But you run it like you do. Who cares about facts? 2. Tom Cruise story: Here you have the movie studio behind mission impossible stating publicly, that no one was paid. Now, do you REALLY think Paramount studios, with 1/2 billion spent/a billion in potential revenue would risk publicly lying about such knowing the massive broadside to the movie's revenues should they get caught? C'mon! This is a B.S. story, but it serves your attack agenda so you skew it and feature it. Additionally, again on the topic of facts, for your commenters below, FYI, haters, cruise's knight and day was the # 1 box office generating move for fox in 2010, generating $260mil plus, look it up at boxofficemojo.com. 3. The Eckard Hall story: Reminder: We live in a country that has constitutionally protected freedom of religion. Men somewhat more astute than you thought it was a pretty good idea. Do you remotely honor that while endorsing the anti-constitutional religious discrimination evident in the response you describe? No, you do not, in fact you revel in the focused xenophobia and hatred, U.S. constitution be damned. What took place there should not take place in a free country, and with you a member of the "free press", you should shout about such, but again, that would not serve your attack agenda. 4. Malcolm Turnbull statement: the church is no more secretive than any other major world religion. Do you think the Vatican doesn't have a security or "internal affairs" arm? It does. As do the Mormons as well. These realities are necessary in the real world and in many cases, because of people like you, and your comment cronies who seek to do harm. Lastly, Mr. Ortega, you're in position to stand on moral ground and condemn? Ha! Your paper's backpages.com allow and give voice and sustainment to ads that feed and strengthen the sex trade and are being heavily protested against by law enforcement agencies and religious leaders. Google "Village Voice defends LATimes.com" for the latest on this reality. Mr. Ortega, you fail to live up to even the most standard journalistic ethics, you ignore facts and your own moral failing, and you encourage hatred and xenophobia daily. How you can feel good about such I cannot begin to understand.

Jgg
Jgg

  I have an idea--why doesn't Anonymous start handing out copies of Paulette Cooper's book, or some of the other exposes?  Or copies of Tony's articles?

VickySlyter
VickySlyter

I worked with Stacey Francis about 5 years ago at a fundraiser at Celebrity Centre.  She was DEFINITELY a "group member" and was friends with all the other Scientologist celebrities who were performing at the event. She, herself, was treated like a celebrity. That she is now denying that she is a Scientologist is really odd.  I bet CC and her Scn pals aren't too happy about it.  The wittle hearts of those who work in "The President's Office" at CC must be broken....."after all they did for her!"

Jefferson Hawkins
Jefferson Hawkins

The video, pathetic as it is, is really a microcosm of Scientology itself.  It was probably made to show to fellow Scientologists. It screams "Look at me! Look at me! See how badass I am! See how OT I am! I'm just like Tom Cruise! Watch how I can save the planet by reaching out to this sad sack, unhappy wog with my leather-clad wonderfulness." But the reality is an empty, shuttered building. Scientology claims over 300 of these local "missions" but when you actually go there, more often than not, you find they've closed. Well, that's just like Scientology as a whole - their leader, Miscavige, struts and postures at their internal events: "Look at me! Look at me! See how badass I am? I'm just like Tom Cruise!!" Meanwhile their orgs are empty, their missions are nonexistent, and members are leaving in droves. It's all about narcissism, image and appearances. The reality is quite something else.

a volunteer? yeah
a volunteer? yeah

I expect Stacy Francis was singing for Tom because Toby Angel was unavailable in her volunteer capacity as a 2nd generation SO member, maybe

Kimob2/Kim O'Brien
Kimob2/Kim O'Brien

what the hell is with the black leather theme? i half expected all of them to start making out since it is shot like a bad porn movie . 

MarkStark
MarkStark

Oh come on. The guy they seduced into buying Dianutty, is now at the CC, spending hundreds of thousands, drives a Mercedes, and will soon appear as a contestant on reality TV. Isn't it really all about just getting people up the bridge to total driving pleasure through German engineering?

Cut them some slack. Crazy is a hard sell these days.

Try selling some copies of Dianutty to your neighbors. If you gave them away, they'd probably call the cops. No one wants this crap except the vulnerable < 1%.

SPwithgoodTA
SPwithgoodTA

P.S. I am pretty sure that vid was also like a bad dream for Anons too, but unlike Scilons, Anons seem to have powerz to turn bad dreams into lulz and delicious cookies.

Jgg
Jgg

  There is no religion we cannot stand.  Even Islam, in its most common form, is a peaceful religion.  It is dangerous cults which we cannot stand.

Scientia
Scientia

I think it would serve you well to take a step back and see exactly what people have a problem with. The assumption that everyone ("you guys") must have a bee in their bonnet because they "can't stand" a religion is either woefully ignorant or an intentional effort to mislead. There are a variety of opinions here. Some are extreme, sure. Many, however, are valid. There is, let's face it, no substitute for understanding. Through the use of ARC, KRC and the Data Series, I would recommend even a minimal effort on your part to find out why different people criticise your organisation (as opposed to "the religion"), so that you can understand them better. Would this not be a worthwhile purpose?

Whether there is any such thing as bad press is open for debate. That there are LRH policies on how to handle Black PR and the press would certainly suggest Hubbard had an opinion on the subject. The lengths DM and OSA go to to silence people with confidentiality agreements, PI harassment, threats of SP declares, lawsuits, etc., would also suggest that your church's opinion differs greatly from yours.

"It is a wise man who, confronted with conflicting data, realizes that he knows at least one thing - that he doesn’t know. Grasping that, he can then take action to find out." -- LRH, HCO PL 11 May 1970, Data Series II, LOGIC.

robinlandseadel
robinlandseadel

It's a footbullet parade. "Trapped in the Closet" will never be good PR. People get interested in seeing Scientology fail after Kyle tells them where to put it.

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

Scientology's actions are strongly opposed by human rights activists and freedom of speech activists around the world.

There is a wealth of information about Scientology on the Internet consisting of court transcripts, witness affidavits, and newspaper articles covering child abuse, sexual child abuse cover-up, monetary frauds, and endless felony indictments.

All of this information shows -- to anyone who cares to bring up a search engine -- what it is that Scientology actually stands for.

Revolt of the BTs
Revolt of the BTs

Superstarcali,

Ignoring scientology is like ignoring cancer......do it at your own peril.

Jgg
Jgg

  And that is just on Earth; we billions more on other galaxies between here and Marcabia.

OTVIIIisGrrr8!
OTVIIIisGrrr8!

On paper we can offset our IAS cash hoard -- and trust me it really is a monster shitload of cash -- by claiming the retail value of the books and DVD's that come off our presses. We are a nonprofit after all and so we have to spend money. Hence, "expansion" is the name of the game if we are to shelter cash. A few dozen Ideal Orgs here and there: who's counting?

The Church of Scientology is richer than God and that is why we do not need or want God.

dodobird
dodobird

Did you know it means exactly the same as Epistomology?  But that was already taken.

Shawn
Shawn

You sure know a lot about Scilon Stacy Francis for someone who has never heard about her before.  FAIL!

TonyOrtega
TonyOrtega

Dion8376, I don't moderate comments. However, Disqus, the commenting system we use, can be spotty. If you tried to post a link with your comment, it might not have gone through. Please try again, and be assured that I am not censoring you.

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

Why don't you post your comment here yourself or are you afraid of Mr. Ortega's groupies?

What? Are you blackmailing him or something?

Yeppir
Yeppir

Uhm. Don't try to post links?

Yeppir
Yeppir

Do tell, Dion8376? Intriguing!

Go to WWP.com, get yerself a little 'ol screen name, and post it there.

We'll be YOUR groupies over there. Promise.

Jgg
Jgg

  The funny thing is that I fit their definition of a scientologist.  I read Dianetics and also The Principles of Scientology.  I was never routed out.  So, I count as part of that 22 million.  Of course, I also read "Bare Faced Messiah" and met 2 people whose lives were ruined by the cult, so you can guess whether I consider myself a scibot.

Clarkle
Clarkle

Bad porn movies are shot Much better.

Scientia
Scientia

I love you MarkStark. Know that to be true. :)

CofS Exit Zone
CofS Exit Zone

ohhh gawwwwd... i just listened to that stoopid lecture recently.

hgc
hgc

100% of what I know about her I read in this blog. Did I say something about her that was not published here first? Point it out. Otherwise, to RPF for you.

NCSP
NCSP

Thanks! My double identity as Scientology critic and gay bleeding-heart comes in handy sometimes. :)

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

LOL TONY. GAWD I LOVE THIS BLOG!

There's never a dull moment...lol

bobx
bobx

I can confirm:  twice now I got the "your comment is in moderation" screen, first when the SP Times was putting out its multi-part series and I posted here that the latest installment had come out; second time when I linked jokingly to a YouTube of Tom Cruise shouting "SHOW ME THE MONEY!" and that's when I realized it was the links that the system is allergic to.

NCSP
NCSP

Also, always assume someone is trying to shut you up because they can't face your powerful truth lasers.

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

About 10 years ago I bought a Dianetics book from their booth at a swap meet/flea market. Please don't tell me I am one of they're 8 million *cough* (40 thousand world wide) strong....that would totally ruin my night.

mjm
mjm

oh hi Delores Bunch-Keemer!

tell Stacy we said hi...

dodobird
dodobird

Good book though.  Hope you read it.:)

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