Scientology's "Super Power Rundown:" What is it, Anyway?

Prepare to unleash your super self! Secrets ahead!
On Monday and Tuesday, we released previously unseen renderings and architectural drawings of what Scientology's $100 million "Flag Mecca" -- also known as the "Super Power Building" -- is going to look like when it finally opens. (The building will open "soon," according to the church. Go here for a basic primer on Scientology.)

As we explained Monday, it was a new counseling process that L. Ron Hubbard came up with in 1978 -- the Super Power Rundown -- that eventually resulted in current church leader David Miscavige breaking ground in 1998 on the massive new building.

Drawings show that it's on the building's fifth floor that special equipment is being installed to help deliver the "Super Power" process -- equipment that includes an "oiliness table," a "smell wall," and a pain station, among other oddities.

But what is the Super Power Rundown itself -- what amazing philosophical, mental and spiritual insight is it that Hubbard came up with that calls for a $100 million building more than 13 years in the making?

After the jump, we'll reveal it to you. Prepare to be stunned.

In Monday's story, we included a few lines from what we believed was the rundown, something we had found online:

"1.Get the idea that you have infinite power. 2.Get the idea that another has infinite power. 3.Get the idea that others have infinite power. 4.Get the idea that you can cause yourself to have infinite power," etc.

But Dan Koon, a former Sea Org member who wrote a history of the Super Power Rundown, told me that the refrains I had quoted were bogus. "Some idiot invented them around 2000. They have nothing to do with Super Power," Dan e-mailed me.

So I asked him, if that material was incorrect, did he have the actual rundown itself?

He said that he did, and he sent over a document written by Hubbard in 1978, the "Bright Think Rundown," which Koon says is one part of the Super Power process (I confirmed this with three other former longtime Scientologists who had all had a hand in developing the Super Power Rundown at the church's "Int Base" -- its secretive California desert headquarters -- in the early 1990s.)


I have spent some time reading through this three-page document, and for those who don't want to struggle through L. Ron Hubbard's jargon-filled mental effluent, I'll take a shot at translating it.

Hubbard begins by lamenting the state of society, and suspects that drug use is causing a condition he labels "disassociation."

That sounds similar to "dissociation," a psychological term that can describe something as benign as the way the mind wanders during a repetitive task, but can also describe mental breakdowns. We know how Hubbard and Scientology feel about psychology and psychiatry, so we won't go there.

Hubbard then explains that a subject who is disassociating is out of sorts. The subject will see connections between things where none exist, for example, and will confound anyone trying to reason with him. "You make a statement and he bends it over to something that has nothing to do with the price of fish," Hubbard complains.

But Hubbard proposes an interesting explanation for why this type of subject is so distracted and uncooperative: it's not that he's hung up on something happening to him now, he's hung up on something that might have happened to him ages ago. Scientologists believe that we are each "thetans" -- spirits -- that have lived countless times over the age of the universe, and that our current "life" is just a blip on our actual "whole track" of existence. Disassociation occurs, Hubbard argues, when we are distracted by an event from something that happened to us countless lifetimes in the past. "It is not that he is stuck on the track where he is, but is stuck on the track elsewhere, often eons ago," he writes.

So what to do about it? Hubbard says that a subject has to be convinced to get back into the current time frame. And to do that, the Bright Think Rundown can help.

The rundown itself consists of a single question that an auditor asks while the subject is holding the "cans" -- the sensors -- of an e-meter. When the subject answers the question, the auditor observes the e-meter's indicator needle, waiting for it to achieve the condition of "floating." Until then, the auditor will simply repeat the question, eliciting responses from the subject. And then ask it again. And again. And again.

The question? In this case, it seems remarkably simple: "Where would you be safe?"

And that's it.

Ask it enough times, and the subject will give a response that correlates to a floating needle, indicating that the subject is in "PT" -- present time. "The end phenomena of the process is a realisation by the pc that he's really in present time. This EP is normally expressed with some variation of the statement 'I'm here!'," Hubbard writes.

I'm here.

I wanted to make sure I understood this correctly, so I reviewed the rundown with Dan Koon, and several other longtime former Scientologists, and they all assured me that I had grasped the situation.

It is this: Scientologists will be asked to pay fairly exorbitant rates to take the Super Power Rundown. On the lower end, ex-Sea Org member Chuck Beatty estimated that this up-front charge will be about $10,000 to $15,000.

Jason Beghe, an actor and former Scientologist who took courses at "Flag," the church's spiritual home in Florida, estimates the Super Power price higher, at $35,000 to $50,000.

So let's split the difference and assume that a wealthy Scientologist will pay something like $30,000 for the Super Power Rundown.

"You have to understand, you pay that before you even get on the plane," Beghe told me yesterday by phone. "But then you get to Clearwater, and you check into the Fort Harrison Hotel, and that's not cheap."

Before you can begin the process that you've come to do, he says, you will be asked to do "prep" to make sure that you are in the right condition to accept the rundown. Invariably, he says, the executives at Flag find that you need preliminary auditing that can take considerable time.

"You're going to be on a False Purpose Rundown for at least a week -- it's basically a sec check that they'll have you on until you admit that you lost your temper at work and screamed at someone, or whatever it is that you have to confess before you can get to what it is you arrived to do," Beghe says.

In "sec checking," a subject is interrogated while holding onto the e-meter and is asked to confess any "crimes" that he or she might have committed which may have put him or her into a lower ethical "condition."

"So maybe you're there three weeks dealing with that before you can get to what you went there for, and that's something you have to pay for at something like $8,000 per intensive," he says, referring to the 12.5-hour intervals of auditing that Scientologists are sold -- not to mention all the arrangements you'll have to make, and pay for, to keep things going at home while you're away. "I ran into people at the hotel who had been there two or three months waiting to be ready for what they went there to do. 'Oh, I'm just waiting to get into my L11 rundown,' they'd say or whatever. Think of what that cost. Because you're not only staying at the hotel, but you're eating in their restaurants and paying for all that sec-checking."

Finally, once a subject is properly prepared, they can do the rundown they have come to Clearwater for.

I asked Beghe, what goes through a Scientologist's mind once he realizes that he's gone through all of that, and spent tens of thousands of dollars, only to find that what he's paid for is an auditor asking him over and over again, "Where would you be safe?"

"Well, I'll tell you this, afterwards, they'll be walking around telling everyone they know, 'Yeah, that motherfucking Super Power Rundown, it's the shit!' That's how it works. No one wants to admit that they've been had. But you have to understand all of the rundowns are like that. It's all just magical thinking," Beghe says.

Another former Scientologist, Marc Headley, echoed that response. "Sometimes it's just ten different questions. Sometimes it's just four questions. Sometimes it's just one question. Or it can be three hundred questions. But they're always just simple questions. That's Scientology," he says.

But thirty thousand dollars to be asked by some goof in a naval outfit, "Where would you be safe?" a hundred times?

"I know, I know. People just don't get it but that's all there is to Scientology," Headley says.

I am grateful to Dan Koon for sharing this material with me, but I told him that I was shocked at how utterly simple it was. An "independent Scientologist" who still adheres to Hubbard's ideas even as he rejects the corporate church run by Miscavige, this was his response:

"Yep, but it's what happens when you really think about the answer to the question that counts. If you were to answer that question 100 times, say, you might find some pretty interesting considerations starting to bubble up from your depths," he wrote to me in an e-mail.

Interesting? I suppose. But worth $30,000 and weeks of expensive prep training at the Fort Harrison Hotel? And worth a $100 million building for delivering it? All for "Where would you be safe?"

This is Scientology.

Tony Ortega is the editor-in-chief of The Village Voice. Since 1995, he's been writing about Scientology at several publications. | @VoiceTonyO | Facebook: Tony Ortega

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My take on all this: If you accept that you are a soul (or spirit) inhabiting your body, this thing we refer to as "the mind's eye" is a sphere of perception, or an interface with the body if you will. To call it an "eye" is a bit of a misdirection, as all somatic senses are involved. The old mystery schools spoke of a "plastic medium" as a sort of abstraction layer between our natural senses (as a spirit) and the I/O of the body (and brain, being part of the body) -- but when we come to Scientology, rather than a set of tools for refining those connections, I see more of a collection of carnival rides, with a gauntlet of pickpockets coming and going.


So what are all those machines for?  How do any of those "perceptics" work their way into this process?  You literally sit there and get asked one question about a million times, pay an insane amount of money for it, and then no doubt you're supposed to write a testimonial about how amazing the whole thing was.  For $30,000, I at least want to take a leak in one of those fancy loos.


"Where would you be sure?  "I can imagine that people that go through all the thousands, to spend figures, weeks and months, up to this point and after a hundred times from "Where you would be safe? "  "but here the answer is "Anywhere. " " 


I lol'd when I spotted the typo in the 3rd bulletin.  

Paul Adams
Paul Adams

Tony - Super Power reportedly contains perhaps a dozen different rundowns, the Bright Think RD being only one of the twelve. Your article gives the idea that one question is the entirety of Super Power.

Stan D'Teque
Stan D'Teque

I know it's been commented on before, but I'd like to point it out again.

Hubbard originally said that Super Power was for staff first, then public, then "the Government" if my memory serves me.

That particular quote was read out by Ray Mithoff (?) at an event in the '90s when the first whiffs of Super Power were being circulated to us devoted cultists.

So why has the vertically-challenged Pope now decreed it'll all be done for mega-bucks in a tawdry version of a sci-fi movie set?

It's the constant re-inventing of "Tech" that irks me most about Co$ - the "Truth" is a variable quality in this toxic cult. And that the poor blind fools are still mortgaging their first-born for the Philly Gollum's Scotch and diving holidays.

Thanks for continuing to expose this scam, Tony; I just hope your words are reaching those who need them most - are you reading this, Marcotai?

Or are you back on another "all-hands" trying to "handle" the "Debbie Cook flap?"


Tortega Monster.....great reporting, as usual.  

I am actually looking forward to the Caturday Comments of the Week post.  You have to have a LOT of time to wade through all the comments of the last few days to pick out the best.  I'm rather proud that you are from my neck of the woods.  

Larry Brennan
Larry Brennan

Oh geeeez, thank God I have prepaid only $10,000 for this when it was first announced as I doubt it will ever be released. Fortunately my bigger bucks of $33,000 was prepaid for OT IX!Oh wait...Shi-


"Where would you be safe?"  This question has rolled around in my head most of the day.  And now it's late, and everyone's already posted their reactions to today's story, and probably no one will even see this.  But I can't help it.  I just need to say what a nerve this has struck with me.  

I think "where would you be safe?" is the ultimate question.  It's a version of what we all wonder, everyday, because we're all just trying to get by in a world that sometimes makes it really hard to do that.  We might say we want to be rich, or to be loved, or to be successful.  Whatever.  What we really mean is that we want to be... safe.  LRH figured that out.  And he invented an answer to sell to people so he could capitalize on their vulnerabilities.  He wanted their money, and he wanted to be revered, period.  I don't think for a minute that he believed his own shit.  What a pig.    


And when you're ready to do the Super Power Rundown, of course you'll stay at the Fort Harrison Hotel. Watch this NEW video on you tube = just search for Fort Harrison Hotel or check out CoS's playlist. No information was available on bugging devices planted in the guest rooms. They just uploaded a bunch of new videos, including interesting tours of Golden Era Studios and Bridge Publications.

Chuck Beatty
Chuck Beatty

I wonder if Hubbard wrote the "Bright Think Rundown" after having just watched the movie "The Marathon Man" particularly the scene where the evil Laurence Olivier asks while torturing Dustin Hoffman a similar question "Is it safe?"     "Is it safe?"  "Is it safe?"   "Is it safe?"  

Old OT7
Old OT7

Reminds me of the movie "Marathon Man" with a very young Dustin Hoffman & Sir Laurence Olivier who played the former Nazi dentist.  They keep asking him over and over again, "Is it safe?"  When Hoffman's character doesn't know the answer, Olivier take a sharp dental tool and plunges into a live tooth nerve.  Stopped me from going to the dentist for over 10 years.

Wonder if any scientologists will remember that movie when they're asked, "Where can you be safe?"

The Scientologist
The Scientologist

Well, I don't know how anyone could be surprised at the "simplicity" of Scientology questions once they've actually had some auditing.

Tony, if this surprises you, let me ask if you've actually seen the questions for Lower Bridge rundowns like the Grades? You realize doing the Grades can easily end up costing someone many tens of thousands of dollars? I've met people who took months on Grade 0 and ended up plunking down as much as $80,000 (possibly more when you factor in any Ethics handlings and confessionals that might be added in).

Grade 0 is extremely simple and consists of a very simple and basic list of questions dealing with communication, like "Who could you communicate with?" asked over and over again to EP.

That's what auditing actually is, it's a form of repetition performed until an "EP" is reached, and the EP of course must be verified with a F/N. So, none of the Scientology processes are ever going to come across as particularly remarkable or special when you look at them on paper. Whether they result in miracles as people claim is arguable, obviously.

Like one or two of the guys you've talked to have said (though I don't think you actually wrote the specific reason), Super Power was developed by Hubbard specifically to first address a phenomena among staff (particularly Sea Org staff) he referred to as "robotism". Hubbard actually wrote quite a bit about this phenomena.

You can find the specific HCOB that defines robotism if you Google the term. It's basically HCO BULLETIN OF 10 MAY 1972 entitled "ROBOTISM". It has a lot to do with evil purposes.

Super Power is intended for everyone in society who suffers from "robotism", most especially politicians, bankers, government agents, police, etc. Basically, all the people who run the show. But to handle this, you need a competent staff free from evil purposes in order to deliver Super Power to these assholes.

So, Hubbard came up with a couple of elite Sea Org units called the Universe Corps and the New World Corps. Universe Corps would focus on auditing all Saint Hill Size orgs up to OT, while New World Corps would deliver Super Power to public. Whether Universe Corps would deliver Super Power to staff as well was an open question, but it always revolved around the issue of Super Power and the importance of getting Super Power to staff in order to get Super Power to everyone else.

There's an entire confidential Sea Org briefing about Super Power and the New World Corps that I don't think has gotten on the Internet yet. But it basically describes the issue of "robotism" on a global scale and that "robotism" is the principal barrier to planetary and universal clearing. I'm not sure what happened to the Universe Corps and New World Corps, but they haven't been talked about for years.

Ultimately, Super Power aims to remove all the barriers preventing the population of this planet and any other planets from achieving the States of Clear and OT.

So, that's why $145 million and more has been spent to get Super Power released. The processes themselves, like any Scientology process in general, are very simple. But the results and goals are obviously of cosmic scale.

That wasn't exactly real to me, which is why I didn't plunk down any cash for the thing. The irony is that the very first people to receive Super Power were supposed to be those on the RPF. It would start from the very bottom and go on all the way to the top.

Whether Miscavige will do Super Power in this lifetime or not remains to be seen. But then again, he hates to get any kind of auditing.


It's articles like these, which capture the essence of the church's true operation. "Make money, make more money, make others produce so as to make more money." -LRH

And you can take that to the bank: pun very much intended.


  I have gotten more profound insight from Chinese fortune cookies.

Detective Clark
Detective Clark

Forget Super Power. I want to know this:

"Where would a gnu be safe?"


30,000 dollars for some guy to ask questions....

I haven't written this before but Scientology is a rich man's religion. There is no way that the average human on this planet would ever be able to afford the 300,000 dollars it takes to make it to the top of the Bridge. This is another reason why Scientology is beginning to fall apart; they've mostly run out of rich people in the first world to leech off of.


I'll go against the flow on this one.My experience with repetitive question processes was surprisingly and unexpectedly beneficial.It may sound goofy, but I've seen and had positive results.  Also, if you dig around, you'll find that this type of process came from Jack Horner but, like many other 'discoveries', L Ron Hubbard took the credit.                                 


  Let's ask "is there such  a thing as a perfect clear" 100 times.


The last OT level, which I invented, is a squirrel process -- as it should be --  called OT OUT.. It puts "u" back in the center of OT.  It has no checksheet, no books, no documentation of any kind -- naturally. Eventually, all the most able people "cog" on this level, do OT OUT and achieve total freedom. The EP of OT OUT is a person who is Scientology free and free of Scientology and that is real power.


Disqus hates me.  I tried to reply to Nancy Many, but no go.

I'm hoping she'll tell a bit more about her experience (and her husband's if that's ok).


"Where would you be safe?" not in bloody Scientology that's for sure


Chris had the Repair of Past Ethics rundown, and one other rundown he can't remember.

He also reminded me that part of Hubbards SuperPower Pilot was some intense, sort of whole track word clearing.

Chris and I (along with others) piloted the 'Key to Life" courses.  Since we were part of the pilot group compared to the finished sequence of actions -- we did it backwards.  The last thing we did was now the first thing people do.

Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack
Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

Not much to say on this except that if what you say is true, the cult is about to reach a new low.

barbara graham
barbara graham

Damn. Ever since I read about it, I want to run in and lick the flavor wall.

nancy many
nancy many

I received the "Bright Think" Rundown when LRH was piloting it back in 78-79.  My husband received two other Rundowns from Super Power.



Even Donovan, in his most drug-fueled state, made a lot more sense than this weird shit.  And I for one, had lots more "wins" and "cognitions" listening to The Season of the Witch than all the auditing I had.btw, superpower was promoted to us bubble-heads as containing about 15 rundowns, including the perceptics  and whatever this 'where are you safe' part.  Any other dox Tony?

barbara graham
barbara graham

"The subject will see connections between things where none exist, for example, and will confound anyone trying to reason with him. "You make a statement and he bends it over to something that has nothing to do with the price of fish," Hubbard complains."

Sounds like the GOP Klown Kar of Kandidates. ZOMG GOP = PTS!


I have a vision of DM dictating this to a bent over Marcotai wearing a Tom Cruise mask whilst aggresively thrusting away (hence the few typos).

for the record the link is an Onion bit where "Panelists discuss the complicated issues facing Nigeria or Niger" - the joke being they they think it's the same thing and look a bit dumb

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

Okay, they also stay at the Fort Harrison Hotel where every room is bugged and all the phones are tapped. So, they keep you there long enough they'll find out a wealth of private information about you... like...where you buried your treasure chest full of gold...that's diabolical!


Interesting that for the last several articles on the CO$ here, Scientologists jumped in immediately to "defend" themselves. But they seem absent on this one. Hmmmm. Is it because that even they know there is no logical defense for this "super power" idiocy? Or, are they not allowed to read this one, due to the secrets being revealed? I'd LOVE to see a member come on and defend this one. I'm not looking for a deflection answer either, I want to hear from someone who genuinely believes that this crapola will help them. And why.

Joe Hone
Joe Hone

Tony, congratulations! With this article you’ve moved intorarified air – a true polemicist for Scientology, able to explain the subtletiesof the religion and at the same time let the absurdities speak for themselves. You’vealso steadily become one of Scientology’s most knowledgeable and visible critics,given your platform at VV, and I think what is protecting you from the oldschool Scientology tactics of relentless attack is that as you have the powerof the press behind you, a formidable foe. I’m looking forward to morecompelling coverage to come! 


But what would a process like be doing to one's mind? Repetitive questions (which a lot of the processes are). Playing with people's minds. What would something like this, going over and over it again until they have some sort of realization?

I would like an expert asked on how the mind works, to answer this question. Maybe it would help those of us who are still trying to shake off the mind f###.

Is it creating new paths thru the the brain?


I pretty clearly stated that it was only part of it. But if that part isn't enough to convince you of what the rest of Super Power is all about, well, I have a bridge here in New York you might be interested in.


This really resonated with me as well. Anyone charismatic enough to gather followers the way he did has to have some insight into what motivates people, no matter how disorganized his thinking in other ways.

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

Never assume nobody is reading your post because its late, I read it.

Great post BTW. :-)

CofS Exit Zone
CofS Exit Zone

Thank you for the detailed response.  I find it utterly frightening that Hubbard found ROBOTISM so prevalent & problematic amongst his most indoctrinated followers, that he had to develop such an elaborate process to deal with such base functions of humanity in order to induce the sensation of feeling safe!

When the obvious solution would be, the ROBOTISM and it's inherent problems was most likely caused by all the training and processing they received. So rather than fix that, and remove the real cause of it - he reprograms you to feel safe!! One false reality to resolve the damage done in another - Hello.

Good grief Scientologist, WTH is wrong with the way your brains work after too much tech?? Even the tech itself proves the cause & effect is detrimental to your ability to know how to be human. And some Humongous Rundown design to make LRH's robots think brighter surely won't fix that.

Wake up. The shi- is utterly whack. The whole way up The Bridge and back. It's as simple of that. If you need to be directed to feeling safe, you are likely never safe being involved with Scientology in the first place. So you need Super Powers just to get back to square one.


This is an important point.  The fact is that most people who have that much money, have it because there is some innate intelligence there...few people manage to be that successful without brains.  And most people with the intelligence to garner this much financial success would take one look at Scientology and say "BAHAHAHA!"

Of course you've always got trust-fund kids, lottery winners and movie stars...but are there enough of them to keep the CO$ going?

The exorbitant cost of $cientology services also calls into question the wisdom of the CO$ attempting to expand in third-world countries.  Why would they bother?  None of those people have any money!  Most of them won't earn $30,000 over the course of their entire lives.

I assume this is why the evil midget has been amassing such a war chest of real estate.  Once they've bled the rich morons dry, the whole "spiritual" aspect of $cientology will crumble.  And then you're left with a fabulously wealthy evil midget, surrounded by his few minions who didn't manage to piss him off enough to be dumped in the RPF hole.


Also, the fact that banks and credit cards companies are tightening lending requirements means that the "average" scientologist will no longer be able to buy their eternity.

CofS Exit Zone
CofS Exit Zone

Valid point, but there are so many milder & gentler forms of positive thinking reinforcement that accomplish same thing without the e-meter & all that comes with it. And once you entrench a small useful nugget of technique in a mountain of rotting crap, you still end up with crap in the end. No matter what.

nancy many
nancy many

sorry you couldn't  reply.  Yes, the Bright Think Rundown was a very simple process,  I can not confirm that that was the exact one command i was given (remember, I was a pilot person, so commands could change), but for sure it was all about the Reviv.

I know on the R/D I got, it was not bad, but it also wasn't great.  Nothing to run home and write about.  Just a sort of weird nothing.

Chris doesn't remember the other R/D he got, but his comment on the "Repair of Past Ethics" was "don't remember it being much, not even a bleep on the RD".

The intensive word clearing was good and helpful.  Never hurts to understand more words, and I enjoy that.  I used to take all the Readers Digest vocabulary quizzes when I was a kid.

These are just a couple of individuals relaying what they experienced - as Pilot Individuals.  Maybe it changed later to give it more ooomph, can't say.   But  do remember leaving those sessions no different than when they began,  and I would always feel great after session (even if only for the compassion and care of the auditor who was really listening to me).nancy


I read someplace that KTL is no longer being delivered.  Any idea if this is true?


I've got it!

Jesus of Nazareth said something about rich men, camels and needles.

Maybe Scientology is just a cunning and extremely elaborate way of getting formerly rich men into heaven.

Robert Robinson
Robert Robinson

This is a very insidious type of brainwashing.  You keep asking the person "where would you be safe?" until they say something like, "I am here".  You have just made the person see that they only place they are safe is in a Scientology Org.  To a Scientologist, the world outside is very dangerous.  This rundown just re-enforces that and convinces the parishioner that they really need to stay connected to Scientology over and above anything, or anyone else.


I haven't got down to the bottom of today's comments yet, so apologies if someone else has mentioned this already, but this is straight out of 1984. Ask the same questions over and over again, and numb the brain enough and you'll be able to get people to do/think what you want.Extract off Wikipedia:Eventually, while undergoing electric torture, Winston declared that he saw five fingers when in fact he only saw four ("Four, five, six — in all honesty I don't know"). The Inner Party interrogator of thought-criminals, O'Brien, says of the mathematically false statement that control over physical reality is unimportant; so long as one controls their own perceptions to what the Party wills, then any corporeal act is possible, in accordance with the principles of doublethink ("Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once")


See my comment below.  I'm no expert but I've read plenty.  There's nothing fancy about it at all.  You're just being put to sleep a little bit to trigger a suggestion that was planted from the beginning of your time in Scientology.


To LeeAnne Clark: There are wealthy people in third world countries, it's just that they aren't interested in what Scientology is selling, because like Mormonism, it is geared toward American culture. The "church" is going to the poorer parts of the world so it can say it has "global reach" - "Clear the Planet" was a slogan a few years ago, and the lower rung members probably believed it.

What Miscavage has been carrying out with "church" real estate would be considered fraud, if the US government actually cared about Scientology. He has taken funds for church construction and put them in with his own accounts, certain buildings are on the market while people are raising money for their refurbishment/demolition and reconstruction - it's simple fraud, and Davey needs to be in jail for it.

To H. Jentzsch: I don't think the hard-core Scientologists were using bank loans and CC company credit alone to cross the Bridge; a lot of them did staff work for a long time. The truth is, the expense in Scientology only started to really become apparent in the late 1970s, and the costs have climbed steadly since the Reagan administration. If Scientology wants to survive, they have to go back to their 1960s prices, sell off the useless bits of real estate, and abolish the Sea Org. But that will take David Miscavage leaving, and he never will without dissident groups within Scientology.


Thanks, Nancy for the response.  I wanted to ask the same question in seeing your initial reply.

"Just sort of a weird nothing".....that says it all.  I wonder if Hubbard ran out of other 'suggestive tricks' (borrowed from others) to include in his later philosophies that he turned inward and tried to cobble a new rundown using his own sad unique ideas.  I'm thinking that this rundown falls flat just like his actual science fiction writing.  His original fiction writing (what I've read of it) is a weird sort of nothing too.

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