Debbie Cook Files to Dissolve Scientology's Temporary Restraining Order: We Talk To Her Attorney, Ray Jeffrey

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Ray Jeffrey, just hired as Debbie Cook's attorney
Yesterday, Debbie Cook began her defense against Scientology's lawsuit which seeks $300,000 in damages because she dared to speak out to her fellow church members in an e-mail sent on New Year's Eve.

Cook, through her newly hired San Antonio attorney, Ray B. Jeffrey, filed to dissolve the temporary restraining order that Scientology was granted a week ago which prevents her from talking to anyone -- even her own husband -- about the case or about Scientology. Friday morning, a hearing will be held over Cook's motion, but we are learning that the real fireworks are coming next Thursday, when a hearing about a temporary injunction will give Cook the opportunity to introduce evidence that Jeffrey characterizes as "beyond the pale of what a human being should endure."

We spoke at length with Jeffrey today about Cook's plans to fight back against Scientology, and about his own preparations for what he acknowledges is likely to be a long, and brutal contest.

According to Jeffrey's website, he's a veteran of more than 75 trials since 1989, and served as the mayor of Bulverde, a San Antonio suburb, for a couple of years.

But I asked him what his experience is in litigation with the Church of Scientology.

"None. I've had a mild interest over the years. I've always been aware of Scientology, but that's the full extent of it. Coincidentally I read the Reitman book on vacation last summer. It was quite fascinating," he says, referring to Janet Reitman's history of the church, last year's Inside Scientology.

Jeffrey explained that when Scientology filed its lawsuit, it requested, and was granted, a temporary restraining order. "They're only good for 14 days," he says, "so they're really easy to get."

The TRO runs out next week, and the next step in the process is for there to be a hearing to see if the same restrictions on Cook will be continued in a temporary injunction, which could last the duration of the case.

In other words, Cook could simply wait a few more days for the TRO to expire, and then really begin to fight the case. Instead, as a measure of how anxious she is to take on the church in this matter, she filed a motion yesterday to dissolve the TRO. That's what will be discussed in a hearing tomorrow morning.

"What we've done is rather than wait around, rather than wait until next Thursday, there are so many problems with the restraining order, we're asking that it be dissolved. We're able to do that on only two days notice," Jeffrey says. "We'll argue that they didn't follow the law in getting this TRO and that they didn't follow the rules for any kind of injunctive relief."

Jeffrey explained that the TRO is stunningly broad. "It prohibits her from going and getting a lawyer and defending herself in the lawsuit. It's that broad. She's barred from talking to anyone, even her husband. That on its face is completely inappropriate," he says.

Also, he points out, the church has not explained how it is being harmed by Cook's actions so far, which amounts to an e-mail sent to her fellow church members that complained that her religion had gotten away from its underlying principles.

"The church has an obligation to show what is the irreparable harm that will occur if she is not enjoined from speaking. They don't even make an attempt to spell out what that is. It's just an abusive TRO. I hope that it will be dissolved. If not, it just stays in place until next Thursday, the hearing for the temporary injunction."

I asked him for a preview of what might come out in that hearing next week, and he said they would enter evidence for how Cook and her husband Wayne Baumgarten were compelled to sign such seemingly draconian non-disclosure agreements.

"The shame of it is, she's still a faithful Scientologist with great love for the church and doesn't wish any ill on the church. And why they would squash her, when she has done nothing more than communicate with other Scientologists about the direction of the church, and in a very positive way," he says. "I want to point out, however, that the Texas Constitution is even more protective of free speech than the federal Constitution."

And if the court denies her requests?

"We could seek extraordinary relief from the appellate court, and I'm confident that would be granted," he says.

I asked Jeffrey if he was aware of Scientology's litigation history -- its reputation for "scorched earth" tactics.

"I fully understand that they're going to argue and fight over everything, and they're a multiple billion dollar organization," he says.

And Debbie? Is she up for a prolonged fight?

"For 17 years she supervised well over a thousand employees, managed a budget of 150 million dollars a year, worked extreme hours, had incredible pressures," Jeffrey says. "You know that saying, that which does not kill you makes you stronger? Well, she's ready."

And the other side? I asked him about George Spencer, the local attorney that Scientology hired. (I've put in a call to Spencer and will update this if I hear from him.)

"He's a respected lawyer in San Antonio," Jeffrey says. "He's the son of one of the founders of the firm, Clemens and Spencer. His wife is a probate court judge in San Antonio. And I'll tell you something interesting. His co-counsel, Mark Cannan, was the attorney for the San Antonio Express-News. He is knowledgeable about First Amendment law, and he should know better, in my opinion."



Debbie Cook Coverage in the Village Voice...

January 1: Scientology rocked by allegations of greed in e-mail to 12,000 church members

January 3: Is Scientology imploding? Watching the panic after a former executive dares to question church management

January 4: Scientology in crisis: Debbie Cook's transformation from enforcer to whistleblower

January 6: Scientology in turmoil: Debbie Cook's e-mail, annotated

January 31: Scientology sues Debbie Cook over her New Year's Eve e-mail

Also, please see our primer, "What is Scientology?"



Tony Ortega is the editor-in-chief of The Village Voice. Since 1995, he's been writing about Scientology at several publications.

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redhead
redhead

Spencer is a Super Lawyer , wonder what level he reached . I guess hes earning enough money to pay for his eternity

Jgg
Jgg

  Re-reading the agreement, it appears vague.  What is "disparage"?  If she saw David Miscavige punch Mike Rinder, for example, is she obliged (a) to protect Miscavige by not saying anything, or (b) protect a fellow scientologist who is being victimized by Miscavige's disparaging, unethical behavior?  If David Miscavige raped her, would she have been barred from calling the police?  Too broad a reading would violate public policy (people have to be free to report crimes and torts).

Pretty Little Robot
Pretty Little Robot

From Martyr's Obnoxious Blog: "Rinder and I both attest that Ray Jeffrey is the best possible man to have in Debbie and Wayne’s corner.  In fact, I don’t think there is anyone in San Antonio, or anywhere else for that matter, who better fits the bill." Thanks for the attestation, Martyr.

robinlandseadel
robinlandseadel

David Miscavige—have you noted how hot your cans are right now? That burning sensation and scent?

Crappy Tech, little Davy, crappy tech.

See you in court.

BroekerBroekerBroeker
BroekerBroekerBroeker

Tony, if you can't personally head to San Antone to cover the proceedings - and I doubt you can, as you have to, you know, edit a paper - here's hoping that either a talented stringer or a friendly (affiliated?) SA free paper will be on the scene.

redhead
redhead

Remember that series callled Lost, mm just thinking it could have been about scientology in  a weird sort of way. Most people got lost trying to follow the series.

Tye Solaris
Tye Solaris

Guess were gonna see what kinda grit they got down there in Bull-Verde.

guest
guest

All Scientology is= A science FICTION writers story enacted out by its readers ,( main Author now is DM) . A Monster of a Story which is now out of control and on the loose in the press for all too see . Appeals to the Egos of those that want to better themselves and become Super Heros. Revised Addition out soon what this space.    Well done Ray. let justice, integrity  and sense Win the days ahead. Be strong

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

Hey Tony, what happen to George Spencer's link? Did they shut their site down? lol

This website is using an IP address that is no longer valid.

Aa
Aa

Although Ray Jeffrey seems to be at least somewhat familiar with the cult's history of employing extreme dirty tactics in its all-out war against adversaries, does he really understand the full scope of what he could be facing? Hubbard's "ruin him utterly" policy being applied not only to himself, but to his family, his employer, his friends and professional contacts, and anyone else that he has any connection with who could plead to him to make the harassment stop. How will he hold up against years of trash-digging investigations, computer and phone hacks, smear campaigns, and no-holds-barred attempts to get him fired from his job as well as disbarred from his profession? Or, like so many of Scientology's adversaries, from Paulette Cooper  to Brian Mandigo, possibly even facing prison time due to bogus criminal charges, false testimony, and manufactured evidence.

As most of us know, these are not some "what if" hypothetical conjecture, but standard Scientology tactical strategies, used time and again. But at least now a lawyer like Jeffrey who chooses to battle the cult can know ahead of time exactly what he's up against, and make an informed choice before he dons his gladiator gear and steps in the ring. As so many before have already learned, it's going to take a person with the conviction of the Bible's Job to be willing to sacrifice everything dear to him, fueled only by his unwavering commitment to 'fight the good fight' against Scientology to the bitter end.

The situation is not unlike the dilemma of people who are called upon to testify against the Mafia -- they all know that, even at best, their lives will never be the same again, but despite the dangers, many are willing to sacrifice themselves for the Greater Good of society. Maybe there needs to be something like a "witness protection program" for lawyers who dare to take on the "Church" of Scientology.

Miss Cabbage
Miss Cabbage

I sat down to my computer and just read the wonderful news.  Thank you Tony.  I feel like I am on cloud 9.  I will keep Ray Jeffrey's in my prayers.  This is going to be fun.  David Miscavige also known as the asthmatic dwarf, is going to be using his inhaler a lot in the next few months. LOL,

mirele
mirele

This Pleases Gaga. (I'd post a pic, but no can do here...google it for yourself.)

Seriously, this warms the cockles of my cold and tiny heart. I'm glad to hear that Jeffrey had previously read Reitman's book, because he's at least aware of the legal dirty tricks of the space-alien cult of greed and power. I'm also pleased that he's taking the initiative and taking the sumbitch cult to court to get that overbroad TRO dissolved. 

Godspeed and good luck in court--you've taken on a formidable adversary, Mr. Jeffrey.

Pete Sagi
Pete Sagi

Debbie Cook has chosen to choose a champion to enter a cage with a raging tiger and fight on her behalf.  Win or loose, her champion gets paid.  There is another way that is far less expensive, far more effective, and far more mellow.  I have tried pointing this out on some other boards to no avail.  I will try on here, it goes like this ...

That tiger, while being a master of fighting in its cage, has a weakness ... it is confined to within its cage.  What cage is that?  The arena of legal fictions.  The Cof$ can only possibly sue DEBBIE COOK, which is a trust entity, a legal fiction, formed during the birth registration process.  Debbie Cook, flesh and blood live woman, can be responsible for DEBBIE COOK by signing her name for DEBBIE COOK, being that she is a contributing beneficiary.  But no law requires her to retain that status and no law prevents her from filing a commercial lien against DEBBIE COOK for some hilarious amount, and, once the lien is perfected, becoming a secured party creditor over DEBBIE COOK, thereby snarling up any possible action that the Cof$ can take.  The web has lots of online resources for going either of these routes.  To be brought up to speed on the issue of this trust entity/how it is created/what are its limitations/how you can use it to your advantage ... I reccommend two videos viewable for free on youtube, by Robert Arthur Menard.  They are "Bursting Bubbles of Government Deception" and "The Magnificent Deception."  View those videos first and then do your own online research, those videos are a great starting point.

Pete

Chocolate Velvet
Chocolate Velvet

Mmm mmm!

Oh, I'm enjoying this. This is going to be interesting. So much of the time Scientology goes to court, and uncomfortable (to them) revelations are made about their many secrets. What will it be this time?

Let the dance of the lawyers begin...

Chuck Beatty
Chuck Beatty

The stain of Scientology spreads to the lawyers that represent Scientology.

Ray Jeffrey's "he should know better" comment I bet is a thought a lot of lawyers agree with.

It's a disgraceful decision to defend a religion's muzzling legal tactics, even if in some convoluted way it is legal.  

Scientology is violating its own scriptures by suing a fellow Scientologist.   Debbie IS NOT an apostate, she's not freezone, she's not independent Scientology, she wants to be part of official Scienotlogy, and I hope she succeeds.

Official Scientology NEEDS more Debbie Cooks!!!!

Lawyers supporting Scientology's lies about Debbie being NOT a Scientologist are factually wrong, and I hope Debbie's lawyer gets some scholars to "test" Debbie and Wayne to grade whether those two are factually Scientologists or not.

The big issue is Scientology is muzzling it's ex senior members today with these big legal settlement agreements to HIDE its dirty laundry.

Official Scientology is immoral and irreligious.

Scientology should NOT be suing one of its own, that is still a major fact, and scholars will back up Debbie and Wayne.   Those two ARE Scientologists!  

Roggy McGee
Roggy McGee

Debbie's letter, while explosive for all of us, was met with somewhat of a soft thud by the general public.  It was such a disappointment when ABC pulled their punches by not airing the segments they had prepared on the incident.  Fortunately for us, Miscavige is too dumb to have anticipated that devoted Debbie is taking her "always attack, never defend" cues from the same Source playbook he is.  Big Win for Miscavige in turning that molehill into a mountain!

This litigation is finally going to open a can of worms in the media. I can't wait to see uber-dunce Karin Pouw forced onto TV instead of hiding behind memos.  Karin is such a dolt, she'll make Tommy Davis look brilliant.  Tommy made Mike Rinder look like Albert Einstein.  Each successive spokesperson is like an exercise in LRH devolution, homo novis to clam.

sharkattacksteve
sharkattacksteve

" that which doesn't kill you only makes you stronger"

Unless the "that" is Scientology in which case the Joker's version applies.

" that which doesn't kill you only makes you stranger "

Fredric L. Rice
Fredric L. Rice

Sir Jeffreygoing to kick some Scientology crime syndicate ass! Joyness! The irony of which is that Mdm. Debbie Cook is also a Scientology customer and one-time ringleader. :) How so very amusing!

Jgg
Jgg

  I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Cook has a freedom of religion also.  She is now a member of what is essentially a new sect within Scientology.  Both the new one and the old one believe they represent LRH.  Each sect can declare a member of the other an apostate,  But everyone has the right to be an apostate.

Radio Paul
Radio Paul

Sorry to curse on your thread Tony but, Hip hip fucking who ra! this is awesome!

Jens Tingleff
Jens Tingleff

exactly the right idea - if thy don't point out the absurdities in the TRO the clams are gong to use that fact against them to turn it into an injunction (i.e. if they were to show weakness at the start, they would be assumed to be weak). I'm glad I supported this :)

Garry90069
Garry90069

I'm sure Debbie's attorney has gotten a mouthful by now on what it means to take on a case adverse to Scientology, i.e., paying PI's to do investigations on defense attorneys & manufacturing evidence with the goal of pressuring the attorney to abandon his client. LRH's HCOPL 25 February 1966 Attacks on Scientology.  I hope Ray Jeffrey's has steel balls.

Schockenawd
Schockenawd

That's the thing about the Church of Scientology.  They don't hire sleazy lawyers.  They hire sharp, well-trained, respectable lawyers from rock-solid firms -- firms that, not surprisingly, charge an arm and a leg.  That those lawyers are able to sleep with themselves after getting their hands dirty with this stuff has always been a mystery to me.  (Go ahead and make lawyer jokes if you must, but there is still such a thing as an attorney with integrity.)  I don't care what judge you're married to or what newspaper you've championed, the minute you sign up with Scientology, you've sold your soul to the devil, and it can be hard to get it back.  Just ask Joe Yanny.

In_The_Name_Of_Xenu
In_The_Name_Of_Xenu

Tony, it never ceases to amaze me how Scientologists keep appyling KSW to their detriment. This case will if anything open up a can of worms for Miscavige. Does he really want Cook testifying in court about the Hubbardian Concentration Camp he's running in Hemet, California? Hubbard's dream of a 'Cleared Planet' will come true. When the dust settles it'll be the Church of Scientology that's been 'cleared' off of planet Earth.

sizzle8
sizzle8

Ray,  Start shredding all your garbage.  Do background checks on all new hires. Pay attention to any new neighbors near home or office.  Alert coworkers, friends and family that 'strangers' might be asking unusual questions.  Put passwords on all accounts, phone records, etc. Encrypt everything. Hide your pets. The OSA overt and covert data collection machine has been started.

Jgg
Jgg

  Scientology cannot have it both ways.  They cannot have Sea Org members work for $1 an hour ("ministerial exception--we're a RELIGION") and also claim they have valuable secrets protected by NDAs, intellectual property law, and so on ("the tech").  They cannot win vs. Cook AND win against the Sea Org members suing here in California.  So, where do David M. Miscavige and the Church of Scientology want to die?

anon anon song
anon anon song

A less mentionned footbullet: in Debbie Cook's 27(?) year stellar career, imagine all the photoshops, overdubs and redos of promotional material.

It would be interesting to compare that familiar group-photo of David Miscavige and about 50 sea orgs behind him and: in one picture cut out those who have left/died abandonned of treatable illness and the other show the cos's awkward photoshop version which (hypothetically) includes replacement sea orgs who weren't even born when the pic was taken.

hallowed-be-no-name
hallowed-be-no-name

yeah he's gotta make himself be the center stage man in all matters concerning scientology to protect his imaginary sense of self-importance and lead his cabal into the promised land. Manipulator just like miscavige.

rockslammer
rockslammer

Just to clarify - in OSA brainwashed cult-land, "Martyr" or "Martyr Wrath burns in Hell" refers to Marty Rathbun.  I personally really like his blog.  Sorry you can't get auditing from him, he is fully booked.

redhead
redhead

Top Actors in the main scene are--- De Mented and Top Cat  MEOWW

Love
Love

I hope the church not fair game him

guest
guest

Run rabbit , run rabbit Run Run Run

DO
DO

I'm going to make a wild guess that you're a 9/11 truther, too?

Love
Love

Your suggestion is brilliant: "Debbie should just LOSE, and pay back whatever the court decides, go bankrupt, and just keep making Scienotlogy's irreligious legal BS tactics a nightmare PR for Scientology. And start over, free!!! NO ONE SHOULD TAKE MONEY AND SETTLE, AND LOSE THEIR FREEDOM OF SPEECH! DON'T TAKE THE MONEY FROM SCIENTOLOGY! Lose Debbie, and you'll win! Keep your principles, they're worth MORE than Scientology's filthy money!chuckbeattyo 1 day ago

DO
DO

Just because she says she is a member of the church doesn't make it so.  I might say that Heidi Klum and I are married, but that doesn't make it so.

Love
Love

And i hope Debbie show him this HCOPL

Mimi The Great
Mimi The Great

Look at Moxon, his daughter died in a "freak accident" at Golden Era and he's loyal to the COS to this day.

anon anon song
anon anon song

"Go ahead and make lawyer jokes if you must, but there is still such a thing as an attorney with integrity."

Don't count on it, if a paid legal argument can be made, their moral stance of integrity often follows in the same direction.

Guest
Guest

Just reading about yet another Earth-like planet discovered, only this one is closer than the others.  Be on the lookout for any large orders for DC-8's.  I can dream, can't I?

Guest
Guest

Hope Deb has an OSA Hat (job) training pack handy for Ray, something one has to read to believe.    This legal trail could have a theme:  Occupy OSA

Strelnikov
Strelnikov

"So, where do David M. Miscavige and the Church of Scientology want to die?"

The Angry Gay Pope would say "In Tom Cruise's arms."

Seriously, DM will flee to some place with no extradition and live there on Swiss bank account money for the rest of his life. Don't think he won't ditch the palace if it means going to jail.

GuestAnon
GuestAnon

Spencer is the "church's" lawyer...

COREarg
COREarg

Quickly, get into a pool filled with mud and start wrestling!

Schockenawd
Schockenawd

Yeah, I know.  I guess I'm making a distinction between the hardcore in-house lawyers like Moxon and the ones who get hired from outside firms to deal with particular cases.  I don't think Moxon even knows how to spell (much less word-clear) "integrity."

Lliira
Lliira

I know plenty of attorneys with integrity. None of them are rich, though.

In_The_Name_Of_Xenu
In_The_Name_Of_Xenu

This must be Target 2. Hubbard spoke about this after one of his acid trips-oops, I meant auditing session.

mjm
mjm

 "Seriously, DM will flee to some place with no extradition and live there on Swiss bank account money for the rest of his life."

^this.  that is though, until the feds get him.

Jgg
Jgg

  I think he's stocking up on Kool-Aid.

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