What Komen - Planned Parenthood PR Debacle? For Rightbloggers, It's Win-Whine

• While I quite agree, I think there's something more to it.   You know and I know - and those who run this game on the right most certainly know - if a privileged female on the right has an unwanted pregnancy, she will be conveniently and safely relieved of it, no matter what restrictions are placed on the rest of the population.  There's some underlying dynamic of the superior and the inferior behind all this.  Rules for Them, the inferior many, and not for Us, the superior few.   The more the out crowd can be disempowered (and for a woman, having no control over her body or her future would seem to do that pretty thoroughly), the greater the joy and the power of the in crowd.   The same sick equation exists in sexual child abuse.  If a politician or a member of the clergy can do anything to the body and mind of anyone's child and go on to do it again and again and again?  Is there a better measure of power and powerlessness?   While the immediate campaigning is about Victorian era sexual piety, the underlying script is purely about power (as it was then, too, come to think of it).  We the privileged have it and the rest of you don't.  And you'll never get it tending to your unemployed, underfed, undereducated brood, will you?  The last stanza of the Gilded Age ditty went, "The rich get rich and the poor get children..." That's their game.  They work without conscience to destroy well-paying jobs, safety net programs, and public schools as well as freedom of speech and birth control.   Theirs is a comprehensive plan.  It dates from antiquity.  It's a hell of a thing to beat without a knowing, unbowing, relentless opposition.

• "..." the idea that, while supporting Komen was robust free speech ..." Even more: the idea that refusing to support Komen because they supported Planned Parenthood was robust free speech.  Or did the Right compare Mollie Hemingway to Hitler for withholding her donations from Komen because Komen gave money to the babykillers at PP?

• I thought it was five <i>million</i>. <i> She visualized Komen as "a good but weak soldier</i> No org that can hire Ogilvy PR at a moment's notice is weak. 

• Roy, The same study that Ross Douchehat quoted actually states 71% of America is pro-choice. There was an auto-fellating level of gymnastics required to come up with the opinion that more than half of America as anti-women as Chunky Bobo imagines in between bouts of fapping funded by the NYTimes.

• Mr. Edroso, a most excellent article. Kudos! Of course, the righties keep giving you primo material to work with. I am constantly amazed that people who can apparently get dressed without help can manage to create such illogical word salads and believe they are making cogent arguments. I guess living in the rightwing echo chamber and drinking the koolaid all your life does destroy both the conscience and higher brain functions... Shorter wingnut: Anyone who disagrees with me is an evil blue meanie! Waaaaah!

• This is more typical right-wing nonsense. Why on Earth would they oppose an organization dedicated to educating people? Oh, right, because that would interfere with the Mighty Wurlitzer, and might actually cause people to THINK. That's about the last thing the GOP wants, an educated voter. Erick Erickson can eat a bag of salted dicks.

• All this talk of abortion is a bit of a ruse in my opinion.  It's a way to scream bloody murder (literally) and up the drama factor, but it's really about the sex lives of women.  The Christian Right doesn't want women having sex (unless they're married and only doing it to make babies). They're main tactic is to scare young single women into abstinence by reminding them of all the things that could happen (std's, unwanted pregnancies, etc.)  Anything that could decrease the probability of those bad things is something they oppose, be it condoms, HPV vaccines, birth control, and yes, abortions.  Their dislike of Planned Parenthood has just as much to do with birth control and condoms as it does abortions.  They don't like the idea of being able to "plan" parenthood.  The fear of unplanned parenthood is one of their greatest weapons in their war of scaring young women out of having sex. It's about a desire to keep as many "scary" outcomes as possible to frighten young women into living according to the Christian Right's desired religious code of sexual conduct.  To be fair, it's about young men as well, but less so.I often wonder what would happen if an AIDS vaccine was developed.  I suspect the religious right would find a reason to oppose it out of their fear that in a world without AIDS even more people would be tempted to engage in sexual activity that goes against their religious views.

• Komen's reputation is all fabricated via marketing/PR techniques. Planned Parenthood's reputation is based on the support of millions of women served.

• Let me know when Komen agrees to pay for fake boobs for my stripper GF.

• Cry me a freaking river.

•  Especially since those totalitarian bullies happened to be SKG's donors.

• So the Komen Foundation made a decision that an overwhelming percentage of its core supporters (women) disagreed with and those supporters made their disagreement known, causing Komen to reverse their decision. It amazes me that the wingies don't get that part of the story. To read them it's as if Komen were set upon by an invasion of outside forces. But in fact, the most vocal of Komen's critics were its own donor base. Yes, maybe there were Planned Parenthood supporters among them - but that's because Komen's donor base and Planned Parenthood's overlap. They're the same people! Funny, too, that the right thinks that it's a wise strategic move for a charity dedicated to curing breast cancer can dismiss the female demographic of its donor base and rely on its new-found donors, white middle-aged anti-choice men.

• We are the Victims, my friends And we'll keep on whining until the end...

• It's actually not their 'choice' as a private organization. They have the privilege of taking tax-free money from the public because they have testified in their articles of incorporation and their filings to the IRS (to get 501c3 status) that they are driven by a mission for the public good that is not a religious or political organization (different tax designations apply to political and religious cause organizations). They also agreed to abide by three corporation duties: Duty of care, duty of loyalty and duty of obedience. They failed in at least two and probably all three of these. Since there is nothing in their mission statement about abortion, it is not relevant to the cause they are soliciting funds for and introducing it into their policies could be seen as a 'bait and switch.' Far from being a victimized private entity, they could very easily be in violation of both state and federal laws. It's actually 'nonprofit management 101 rules': 1.) Never ever, under any circumstances politicize your mission and, 2.) Refer to rule 1. They pay an enormous (eyebrow raising) amount of their revenue for a top-heavy cadre of 'business experts,' yet no one at Komen could figure this out?  I stopped donating to them years ago--not because of any pro-life/pro-choice issue, but because they are bullies who are poorly managed and inadequately governed by people who seem unable to anticipate or mitigate PR disasters (like suing other nonprofits and blatantly politicizing your mission). These are entirely self-inflicted wounds on Komen's part and, as for the whining on the far right over the 'attacks' on this 'private organization' goes, as Karen Handel might say "cry me a freaking river." 

• And oh yeah, even more rarely is the question asked: "Exactly how much is Mr. Ari Fleisher going to be paid for all his, um, work to um, you know, cure breast cancer?" There's a question I'd want to know the answer to before I ever gave that phoney-baloney grifter charity a single #$%ing nickel of my money...

• As commenter thebewilderness said over at Digby's Hullabaloo: <i>If you wanted to design a charity that provided high publicity tax write offs for the corporations that produce cancer causing products and cancer treatment tools and medications...</i> <i>... while spending very little "for the cure" and a great deal to prevent any other charity from raising money "for the cure"....</i> <i>...All this while paying yourself generously and your volunteers nothing....</i> <i>...Komen would be the blueprint to follow.</i> To which I can only add, "Rarely is the question asked, "Why does the CEO of the Susan G Komen Foundation get paid $500,000 a year, while the President of the United States gets paid $450,000 dollars a year?"

• Thank you for summarising that extraordinary scene. There seems to be a certain victim mentality being expressed, whereby people who disagreed with the SGK decision, and said so, are depicted as totalitarian, a mob, bullies, wearers of jackboots, etc. Another person might just have described what occurred as the operation of the free market!

• "We wonder how many of these guys' followers yanked their donations, convinced that, because they were doing it rather than some godless liberal, it was noble rather than coercive." Heart and summation.

• In their FAUX Nooze world, they hold a majority of 99%. Amazing, isn't it, how the lieberals still manage to keep them downtrodden. Frickin' Emmanuel Goldstein! ~

• Roy, I can't believe you passed up the chance to link to <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPNaaogT8fs&feature=related">this</a> in Scalia's cri de coeur. "MOLOCCCCCHHH!"

• More than two-thirds of Americans are either Pro-choice or don't give a crap.  The usual 28%er morans think that their loud (at least 15) screeching means that they can say what's-what.

• I had been suspicious of Komen's pinkwashing (race for this, pink for that, buy this pink thing and heeellllllppppppp!!!!!) for years; this little kerfuffle revealed someone's true face, but it was Komen's, not PP.  Komen actually contributes less than 23 cents of every dollar to the actual cause it is supposedly fighting for; the remaining 77 cents goes to fat salaries for the wingnut leadership and of course to raise even more money.  It's almost as good a grift as the Palintrain.  No more money from me for pink anything, ever again, and that includes the corporate sponorships - if it's got a pink ribbon stuck on it, I'm not buying. 

• Bookworm Room has to be satire. Sample post titles: Gay activists’ alleged attack on prayer, even if not true, highlights the Left’s profound animus to traditional Judeo-Christian religion Both William Shirer and Hitler think the Obama administration is making a mistake with its attack on the Catholic Church

• "PP has been seriously wounded because it showed its true face." So wounded that they apparently garnered $3 million in new donation in the days following the whole Komen debacle.  That's the kind of wounding I could use right now.

• I suspect that Komen's corporate sponsors were even more influential than the supporters of Planned Parenthood in bringing about Komen's apology and policy change.  

• Rightblogger National Anthem We are the Victims We are the Victims No time for lieberals We are the Victims – Of the World! ~

• It appears to me that Komen for the Cure originally sought out no role in the abortion issue. The anti-abortionists initiated an all-out campaign to force them to pick a side. That left Komen with no good and comfortable choice, but the best one, the honorable one, would have been to tell the anti-abortionists to take a hike. Instead, they drifted right, and thhen tried to weasel quietly out of the box.  Instead they botched the whole thing royally. And, contra Mr. Douthat, the silent majority is NOT anti-abortion. A very large block of people have wishy-washy and ambiguous attitudes, but when the need for abortion strikes close to home, they expect it to be legal and available. Those who really, genuinely want abortion treated as a crime and stamped out are a very small minority, and it is not going to happen.  I am sure rightbloggers will figure that out and come to their senses real soon.

• I don't hate Sarah Palin and her daughter for choosing not to abort their children, but I admit to being a little ticked at Sarah Palin's mother.

• An excellent precis of the whole mess. I've nothing of substance to add, but I'd like to point out that Colin Meloy looks silly with a beard.

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