Scientology Campout: Commenters of the Week!

Somehow we're thinking Scientology's idea of "camp" isn't this fun
It never seems to be a quiet week here in the underground bunker where we keep an eye on all things Scientology related. The cats had barely settled down from our brief trip to Texas when the bat signal on the Antipodean circuits went off, alerting us to an imminent bombshell.

But let's not get ahead of ourselves. The week started out calmly enough, with our usual roundup of hilarious Scientology mailers, Sunday Funnies.

And on Monday morning, we noted the weekend's worldwide celebrations of Project Chanology's 4th anniversary, as Anonymous once again raided orgs with their signs and masks and irreverent dance moves.

But then, Monday morning in the wee hours, that warhead from Down Under landed with full force...

TodayTonight journalist Bryan Seymour had let us know what was coming, so when we wrote about his 14-month investigation into a frightening child labor camp in suburban Sydney, we not only had details of his story, but some behind-the-scenes material from Bryan himself.

Wednesday morning, we revealed the week's big story: our open letter to Tom Cruise, putting him on notice that as the face of his religion, he can no longer remain silent as Scientology's abuses become better known. We're still waiting for a reply.

The next day, we lightened the mood with a follow-up to our story about Scientology's super-secret underground vaults, where L. Ron Hubbard's writings are archived to survive a nuclear holocaust. We revealed yet another secret Scientology facility where the reincarnated Hubbard is thought will appear. Wacky!

And yesterday, we returned to the yacht Apollo, circa 1971, for more L. Ron Hubbard wisdom on the high seas.

So let's get to the awards!

Once again, the San Diego org put out a mailer that was painful to the human eye to look at in our weekly Sunday Funnies. But DMSTCC braved the painful graphic design and truly awful fonts to spot something we missed...

If I wanted to learn about "POOCASTS" I'd visit the monkeys at the local zoo.

Another mailer was from the effusive Melbourne org, which included photos of its recent anniversary gala. Kate Bornstein had this observation about the festivities...

I was struck by Melbourne's hilarious fashion runway hosted by the "fabulous" blah blah blah. I wince when I see "fabulous" in quotes like that -- I bet my hard cold dollars that it was a rollicking skit just chock-full of homophobia. Damn. How would a reformed Church of Scientology reverse *that* along with cancelling fair game and disconnection?

And our resident satirist, OTVIIIisGrrr8!, really outdid himself with this salvo...

These events prove just how much darn fun Scientology can be when we or not suing or fair gaming bitter apostates. We in RTC invite VV readers to drop by an Ideal Org to see Scientology for themselves. We peradventure to say that fully 99% of people reading this blog have never actually stepped inside an Ideal Org to get their free personality test.

All we in RTC ask is that VV readers come in through a back door so that no one in your local community sees you entering; this because you are all known felons, fortune tellers, bookies, sex deviants and general layabouts in your towns. We don't want an upstat community member walking by and, upon seeing you enter the Org, say, "Hey! There is that guy I saw being arrested last week for shoplifting at the mall," or, "Say, isn't that fellow walking into the Scientology Ideal Org the same smelly derelict who bums change on First St. and Main?"

We also must kindly ask VV readers not to bring their crack cocaine, syringes, prostitutes, or dime bags into our Ideal Orgs, this to avoid tempting SO members that are recent Narconon completions.

On Monday, we looked at the weekend's anniversary celebrations around the world that marked four years of Project Chanology. Clearly, the numbers are lower these days, but Skydog put that in some perspective...

They may have less people than four years ago, but the number of people outside protesting still far exceeds the number inside worshiping Elron.

And once again, Mat Pesch helps us understand things from an ex-Scientologist's point of view...

My wife Amy Scobee and I were out of the Sea Org for a few years and hadn't publicly said anything, despite our families being broken up with disconnection. When we saw 5,000 Anons protest in cities around the world it really had an effect on us. Here were non-Scientologists who were making the effort and finding the courage to stand up to the "churches" bullshit. We felt a responsibility to do the same.

This led to Amy speaking out in the St. Petersburg Times article "The Truth Rundown" and then writing her book called "Scientology, Abuse At The Top".

IMHO, Anonymous pulled the plug on Scientology's sewage tank of crimes and abuse.

When Bryan Seymour's blockbuster expose of a suburban child labor camp in Sydney hit, the church rolled out its usual stuff about the Sea Org's prison detail -- the RPF -- being just a voluntary weenie roast for rounds of "Kumbaya." But Kate Bornstein set the record straight on that...

No one "joins" the RPF--not a single soul. Sea Org members are given a choice: RPF, or excommunication for all of our remaining lives. It's a bully's choice, along the lines of "Are you with us, or are you against us." L. Ron Hubbard wrote solely with either/or black-and-white language--there's never room for doubt or question. That's the mark of a bully, and we were bullied--it's built into the "canon." Scientology staff are bullies or they're bullied. As an individual, Miscavige is taking bullying to its outermost limits. It used to be bad, but it was never this bad--not before he took over.

Why did the bullying work? As Sea Org members, we *believed* we were serving humanity for a billion years--and a billion years is *nothing* to an immortal being. Give a kid--or a brainwashed adult--the choice of an eternity of saving the planet, or an eternity of misery-- that's when they "choose" the RPF. The fact remains--no one volunteers for the RPF with a smile on their face and a song in their heart. Gods, this story makes my stomach hurt.

Radio Paul chimed in with this bit of satirical church-speak...

Remember everyone that the people in these stories are all lying hate filled bigots and disgruntled ex members who will say anything to destroy the greatest religion the world has even seen. A religion that WORKS, makes people ETHICAL and it HELPS people. They are all liars, all the thousands of them!

And we're always glad to see Jefferson Hawkins weigh in with his wisdom...

Good on Bryan Seymour for having the guts to pursue this story and reveal the abusive culture that exists at the heart of Scientology. Maybe this will inspire Los Angeles media - and police - to deal with a similar "re-education camp" right in the heart of LA, at Scientology's "Big Blue" complex on Sunset Blvd near Vermont Ave. Here, hundreds of "Sea Org" members are kept in degraded basement quarters and not allowed outside the building, sometimes for six or eight years. They are not allowed access to the internet, or newspapers, TV, magazines or radio. They run everywhere. When they are not studying Hubbard's texts or engaging in confessional sessions, they work in a huge carpentry shop making furniture for Scientology organizations. They are paid a few dollars a week so they can buy a few toiletries.

There are similar facilities in Clearwater, Johannesburg, East Grinstead in England, and Copenhagen.

And how about the "Int Base" in San Jacinto, California where Sea Org Members are imprisoned behind razor wire, motion sensors and security guards and subjected not only to grueling work schedules and shocking conditions, but are also physical violence, degradation and torture (see Debbie Cook's statements - and many others).

Scientology says that these people are there "voluntarily." Imagine the state of mind of someone who would "voluntarily" submit himself or herself to such degraded conditions - sometimes for years - to "atone for their sins against Scientology" and you get a glimpse of the pernicious effect Scientology has, particularly on the young. Sure, they could walk out - and, they are told, lose their family, friends, and their "eternal salvation" to go out into a "dangerous" world where they have no friends, no family and no job. It takes extraordinary courage to walk out anyway.

Those of us who have been there know what exists behind the curtain, and no amount of Scientology denials can erase that memory. It is past time to shut down Scientology's gulags.

On Wednesday, we published our open letter to Tom Cruise, and of the hundreds of comments, we have to admit that we enjoyed the simulated responses from the actor best of all. Here's a good one from skydog...

Dear Tony:

Thank you for your open letter. Unfortunately, you don't have all the facts. We, and by we, I mean David Miscavige and me, are the authorities on everything, including the history that will be written on the church and emblazoned on titanium tablets buried deep in the desert. One hundred million years from now, when Davie and I are sitting in our hot tub, you and all the apostates that huddle together and make up slanderous stories, will be long forgotten and loyal sea org members (with 900 million years remaining on their contracts) will still be preparing gourmet seven course meals, and catering to our every whim. Please re-read and word clear if necessary, Karen Pouw's written denials concerning Debbie Cook's recent tirade. These are the true facts; these are the facts that I believe; these are the facts that only an ignoramus would deny.

Outside of LRH, I know of no man with more intelligence or compassion than my good friend and companion, COB. Hip, hip, hooray for David.

Very truly yours,

Tom Mathoper Cruise

And one from ProbablyNotTomCruise...

My latest movie alone made over $200 million dollars. Over my career so far I've probably made more than a billion dollars and I'm only 50, maybe I can make another billion in the next 20 years. How much money did your ever make?

Hundreds of millions of people love me and pay money to see my work. How many people love you and are willing to pay to see your work?

I live in a palace, you live in a bunker?

My wife is a famous actress in her own right, and we have a lovely family. You?

Why should I pay any attention to a bunch of lies you make up about me and about my best friend? Anyone as successful as I am is bound to have a long list of jealous losers wanting to take me down to prove to themselves that they are better than me. Well, get to the back of that line buddy, 'cause it's a long one.

And there was this one from Tom Cruise....

Stop being so GLIB Tony. If I need to come down to the VV and ruthlessly put some ethics in you I will. Scientology edpleh me with my dyslexia as they are the only ones who can help. Making fun of my status as a deity in Scientology is offensive as no one saw fit to attack me for being a god to teenage girls in the 1980's. Yes Tony you need to be taught a lesson, perhaps quietly and without sorrow. That lesson will be that no one says bad things about my church to my face. If only you knew the history of the world like I do, you would not be attacking me or my beloved church. Oh sure, right now you are writing lies about me but Tony one day they will be writing about you in the history books!

On Thursday, we got back to the story of CST and its "LRH Houses" where a reincarnated L. Ron Hubbard is expected to grow up. Hilarity ensued. We couldn't help enjoying this zinger from InTheNameOfXenu...

Tony, sorry but Hubbard hasn't returned yet. He has joined a cluster of body thetans that is currently stuck on my left ass cheek. I will send him your sincere regards.

We also pointed out that by at least one way of reckoning, Hubbard's reincarnation would be a five-year-old, and we joked about keeping an eye out for little redheads smoking Kools by the carton. That elicited this clever rib-tickler from Ivy Mapother...

What brand does Suri smoke?

And finally, we had more fun yesterday with L. Ron Hubbard's funny at-sea dispatches to the crew of the Apollo. Which led Skip Press to wax nostalgic...

Ah, the good old days, when Scientology was just a nut on a ship with a bunch of young chuckleheads, out of the U.S. and not sucking the financial life out of so many worldwide...

It was another fine week of commenting -- there were many more great observations and intelligent questions, and great back-and-forths going on. Let's keep up the momentum! Tomorrow morning, stop by for a helping of Sunday Funnies, and then for the Monday holiday, we'll have a special little treat I hope you enjoy.

Tony Ortega is the editor-in-chief of The Village Voice. Since 1995, he's been writing about Scientology at several publications. | @VoiceTonyO | Facebook: Tony Ortega

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I don't have any great insight or wisdom to share. I just want to say anyone who uses a pic from the movie Meatballs is aces in my book.

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

I found an Ad Jan Eastgate took out in the backpages of Village Voice.

Wanted: body double who can take my place in a molestation court case in Australia. Must have criminal record & be able to do time in the pokey. Will pay $50.00/a week. Apply in person. Phone xxx-xxx-xxxx


Debbie Cook's blog is now open for comments.

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Chuck Beatty
Chuck Beatty

Scientology is whole lot of exorcism, at the "upper levels."  (OT levels 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 each deal with exorcism.)

Arguably Hubbard's writing of 1982, called "From Clear to Eternity" lays out how important are his upper levels 3,4, 5, 6 and 7 compared to all the rest of his pseudo-therapy steps of his "Bridge to Total Freedom."

Hubbard made it excommunicatable for Scientologists to publicly discuss the Xenu story, nor to publicly discuss the nuts and bolts of the upper levels exorcism procedures and theory.  

Excerpts of the key Hubbard lecture explaining it all is on YouTube today.  Class 8 lecture 10, "Assists"  

That's where Ron tells the Xenu story and  the Xenu story explains why there is a surplus of souls on earth today, and the problems those souls cause humankind.

And it takes doing OT levels 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7, to fully handle these surplus souls (which go by the confidential name "body thetans").

 I repeat this, as this is the most important new news for ex Scientologists who are uniformly deprived of learning their "upper level" secrets of their religion and they are disallowed from publicly discussing it when in Scientology.


I love this blog, and I especially love the comments from the OSA shills who post here. I have to think their motto would be (in the garbled syntax that characterizes so much of Scientology writing):

Widely and importantly driving people away from Scientology! Since 1952! Or some other year. Also, planetary dissem! Stop by your idle org and see for yourself! You can help with the filing, once the brainwashing kicks in.

Also, some overdue thanks to LeeAnne Clark and Chuck Beatty for taking the time to explain the foot-bullet concept of dead-agenting to an outsider.

Dean Blair
Dean Blair

I especially liked Jefferson Hawkins comment.  He knows the score.  How David Miscavige can get away with such cruel and inhumane actions without being called to task by the authorities is simply mind boggling to me.

I also very much enjoyed your "Open Letter to Tom Cruise".  Evidently he feels he is impervious to all that is occurring in the world  of Scientology.  I would say to Tom, ignore at your own peril.  The Church of $cientology is going down and if you ignore your public, you are going down with it.


I like Mat's comment about Anonymous.

Anonymous is an antidote to Scientology. Although like Scientology, Anonymous is hard for the general public to understand, Anonymous represents freedom of speech and a new power or voice born in the Internet revolution, whereas Scientology is all about control, lies, propaganda and money. I'd call Scientology "old establishment," but they are really more like "old funny hoax."

Anonymous were and are dangerous to Scientology's scam for one main reason: they are telling the truth about Scientology.

Aside from the freedom of speech/internet issue of the Tom Cruise video, Scientology was the perfect target for laughs. Combine the power of an uneducated, wildly popular but dimwitted and arrogant actor like Tom Cruise, with his fervent belief that he "knows" because of the hokum cooked up by a 1950's sci fi writer who started a nutty fascist mind control group that has plans to "salvage" this sector of the galaxy...

Anonymous didn't "destroy" Scientology, but  as more young people are born into the Internet age, they will be finding free information and answers on the web, not from a high priced space cult. Scientology is going downhill because of the Internet, and Anonymous gave it a nice big push.


WOW! What a great week of reporting on the criminal organization known as Scientology. Just thought I would take this opportunity to say thanks for all your great work. Also to those who help provide you with you excellent and well researched facts. Have a great weekend everyone!

Carry on :)


I guess that the OSA's "handling" program that was leaked several months ago in the "weird and has squirrel stuff on it" letter is now in effect. There have been a few chuckleheads, like "The Real Downlow" who have been popping up claiming some sort of investigation is underway. Gods, I wish that they would stick around, and actually engage, instead of trying to take potshots. But that's been the OSA's MO since forever, so I guess I shouldn't be too hard on the current batch.

On a related note, is Mr Miglio still emailing you with his apples of knowledge? Scientology watching is a bit more boring when they don't stop by for tea.


Another great week.

I think a lot of ex-Scilons come here, to get their sanity (and their voices) back.

Have a great weekend everyone!

Some quotes:

♣ He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today. ~ Tryon Edwards ~

♣ In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. ~ George Orwell ~

♣ Peace if possible, truth at all costs. ~ Martin Luther ~

♣ In this world, those who seek the truth will also find trouble. ~ Gary Amirault ~

♣ To some the truth is an insult, to others life from the dead. ~ Gary Amirault ~

♣ Honesty has a beautiful and refreshing simplicity about it. No ulterior motives. No hidden meanings. An absence of hypocrisy, duplicity, political games, and verbal superficiality. As honesty and real integrity characterize our lives, there will be no need to manipulate others. ~Chuck Swindoll ~

♣ There are two ways to be fooled: One is to believe what isn't so; the other is to refuse to believe what is so. ~ Soren Kierkegaard ~


Kate Bornstein is a national treasure!


It's a 50/50 chance that Tom Cruise and David Miscavige carry around an emergency change of underwear for any time someone mentions "Tony Ortega" or "Village Voice." You're the $cientology Ex-Lax, Mr. T!


Good week of good comments.  ^^^^^ The Scienofags seem to have returned today. It looks like a Freedom Mag scientology worker is here trying out Scientology's Dead Agenting pack on Tony.

The Real Downlow
The Real Downlow

Tony, I absolutely agree with everything here, so I trust you will get your own house in order and get all those underage sex workers out of Village Voice HQ, STOP illegal sex and human trafficking on Backpage, STOP turning a blind eye to the rape and molestation of women and children via Backpage and Village Voice Media publications, and START being a human being. Turn yourself into the Feds for voluntary questioning and testify against your Phoenix bosses.

Start doing the right Tony. Start being a human being instead of the lapdog of the Phoenix mafia.

Radio Paul
Radio Paul

Yeah but a RPF camp is more like Meatballs of Death.

Radio Paul
Radio Paul

I am sure some poor Sea Org slob will jump on the chance to get a three hot meals, not sleep on a floor and actually get the $50.00 a week they were promised. 


OTs are supposed to have superpowerz to "shatter suppression" but most of them do not have the ordinary power to write a coherent sentence. Their much advertised communication skills are either at the junior high level or throttled by the brainwashing.

They ordered their spokesliar off TV, probably because some marketing consultant told them they were losing raw meat and members every time he or she spoke. Why haven't they called off their OSA bots?

They should make OTVIIIisGrrr8! their official spokesliar and shillbot, but probably can't because he tells the truth too often, and won't work 100 hours a week for $50.

Their "Scientology is life" campaign did not sell like it should because everyone knows they pretty much tell the opposite of what is true, so "Scientology is death" is what they are.

They should meet the public half way on the truth issue with something like:

"Scientology is hemorrhoids the size of grapefruit.""Scientology may lead to an early death on Teegeeack, but eternal life in another star system."

That would be very attention-getting and send everyone to their official website or the empty "Orgs" for more "data."


You're quite welcome, although having never been *in*, I am only describing what I've learned through my reading up on this criminal cult, both here and elsewhere.  Janet Reitman's book is a great asset for learning how the CoS works.


We in RTC don't recognize the image of Scientology and Tom Cruise portrayed by the disreputable Mark Stark, a man with a long record of convictions for crimes involving moral turpitude, vagrancy, and plotting with other criminals to unlawfully transport dangerous, radical, and false ideas about Scientology across state lines via the internet and a series of whispered blasphemies into payphones at dubious gas stations where  cigarettes, car ties, beef jerky, beer, and energy drinks are sold with no questions asked. Do we really want a world where children are exposed to dangerous energy drinks or incorrect data about Scientology?

We in RTC say no. 

To quickly recap, we in RTC launched campaigns specifically engineered to halt the dwindling spiral, or more technically, to literally audit this planet from three feet behind society's head, and thereby remove the surface charge before it builds up and blows the whole works. So yes, indeed, as a combined whole you can label those strategies as planetary salvage, embracing all pivotal programs from the very top, in the creation of new ideal orgs, to the very eradicating the virus of aberration at its source - which source is the Village Voice and its murky connections to the Phoenix Mafia and its illegal sale of automotive air fresheners scented with psych drugs to automotive repair shops and automotive parts retailers. One can see how deep Big Pharma and the Phoenix Mafia have drilled into society when even automotive air fresheners are not laced with deadly Psych drugs that unwittingly lure motorists into the New World Order frame of mind, which is to day drugged and compliant. 

In other words, Tony Ortega and all VV readers should be locked up and placed in prisons for willfully and irreparably harming Scientology, David Miscavige, and Tom Cruise. Scientologist Tom Cruise tried to warn all of you and now look what has happened: The contagion of aberration has spread to a point where even common hoodlums such as Tony Ortega are given a bully pulpit by the Merchants of Chaos that run the Phoenix Mafia.


I agree the discussion is a little more interesting when folks from the pro-Scientology camp stop by.  But, only a *little* more interesting.  They're so predictable that I usually end up skipping over much of what they have to say.  The most interesting thing about them to me is that they almost always rest on name-calling rather than responding to any of the facts.  Isn't there something in the tech somewhere that would assist them in making a compelling argument?  You can only write off so many disaffected members as liars and  "bitter apostates" before your game plan runs fully out of steam.      


I miss Mark. I hope he is safe and doing well. He has a good heart.

koki raki
koki raki

" the biggest problem with internet,is that anybody can try to quote....anybody..." --- LRH seminar in Bulgravia,1944.

big hello.


I have 50 bucks that says Tom Cruise is only peripherally aware, at most, that the Village Voice ever says anything at all about Scientology or his role in it.  He doesn't seem like the kind of guy who ever wants to hear anything but praise, and you know he can pay somebody to keep the "entheta" away from his view (or DM can just supply a slave for this purpose).  I would love to see him respond to the open letter, but let's face it, Mr. Cruise has given the world no reason to think he is enlightened or introspective or brave.  

Tom Cruise
Tom Cruise

Tommy Davis said in a 2010 interview with the Blue Oyster Magazine "David Miscavige does not wear underwear, Tom likes easy access to his bitch". But if Miscavige did wear underwear I bet it would be exact replicas of Tom Cruises whitie-tighties in Risky Business or have Scooby-Doo logos all over them.   


We in RTC quite agree with The Real Downlow that illegal sex, human trafficking, rape, and molestation should be moved out of the secular world and back into the Church of Scientology where none of it is a crime and all of it is protected by ministerial exemption. Our ecclesiastical friends such as Fred Phelps and Tony Alamo certainly understand the Church of Scientology's position: We are not the criminals. The criminals are the unsaved, the sinners, SP's, Psychs, and the Texas court. 

Despite our agreement with The Real Downlow, we in RTC are nevertheless outraged that he would leak RTC's files on the Phoenix Mafia. The Real Downlow has comprised years of investigatory work by OSA and we are furious.

OSA spent tens of millions of dollars investigating the plot by the Phoenix Mafia to have adult classified ads placed in a New York City newspaper.

The Phoenix Mafia makes hundreds of millions of dollars per year on VV classified ads through a mechanism that we do not fully understand, but it is quite clear that petty criminals in Phoenix have somehow gained control of the New York City Mafia families. And the key to the Phoenix mob taking over NYC crime families are the ads placed in the VV.

This is a sensational story and now The Real Downlow has ruined what would have been a staggering issue of Freedom Magazine. We had even taken color photos of Phoenix for this story on the Phoenix Mafia but now it is all shot to hell just like everything else around this place.

It is Saturday night and we in RTC are leaving now to go do laundry. After that, we launch our sweeping investigation into the attacks on Scientology today conducted by the cyberterrorist world criminal organization Anonymous. We in RTC are certain that Anonymous is somehow tied into the Phoenix Mafia and the VV ads. It is all part of a massive conspiracy against the Church of Scientology, Mankind's only hope of salvation. 

Ivy Mapother
Ivy Mapother

Call the Phoenix Org., ask for Dede. Tell her to open a big old can of whoopass ethics on this Phoenix mafia. Have her start with a rousing chorus of "We Stand Tall" and finish with "Dauntless, Defiant, and Resolute" and what ever you do, please record it in HD. If they have problems hitting the high notes, bring in the little guy, he can do it.

Chuck Beatty
Chuck Beatty

We need a fresh OSA defector?   Any OSA staff reading this, please defect, and bring the "Ortega Handling Program" and other relevant OSA programs like your "Debbie Cook Handling Program(s)" with you, please!

Linda Hamel, please defect!  Red rover red rover, Linda come on over!   Defect!

Chuck Beatty
Chuck Beatty

Tony obviously hit a nerve with the Cruise article this week.

Well Cruise mentioning in negative ways are downstats for OSA, so OSA wordsmiths go to work per the "Ortega Handling Program", eh?   

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

Ha Hahaha! Bet you're proud you made the first post. Tony's blog is like blood in water, the sharks are circling.


So, when are you going to start investigating the practices of bride gifting within the church of scientology?


The Real Downlow is a scientology rundown that requires the pc to be on all fours in a bathroom stall until they locate a pube on the porcelain throne using only their tongue, it is run until reaching the hairball EP


You all are saying Downlow is OSA??  Oh dear, I took his comment as just another spoof, offered in the spirit of the comments Tony highlighted for our morning enjoyment.


My (non-scientologist) take?  OSA comments= great satire

Radio Paul
Radio Paul

Maybe you all can send Jan Eastgate down to the Village Voice to teach them how to cover up your alleged crimes? Scientology does have the experience on covering up child sex abuse cases so you should know what you are talking about. But I must admit I am a little confused over your outrage as we all know L Ron Hubbard said children are adults in little bodies. I got an idea for you Downlow Stat, try adding about a hundred other abuses to this letter and re direct it to David Miscavige, the current stooge leader of your cult.


You know, I can tell this is OSA. Why? Because if this was just the anti-sex trafficking group, they'd be all over the Phoenix New Times, especially right now, since the New Times just dropped a bombshell story about Sheriff Paul Babeu. But the anti-sex trafficking people aren't there...neither is OSA. That's because Tony Ortega is *here* and he is the real target. 

/waves at OSA--hey guise, any way I can get a tour of the Phoenix Idle Org or the LRH House?


Hey Real, what are you Downlow doing? Did Davey bathe this morning?


I can't wait for the pic you put up for V$ day

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

LOLZ. Beats the RPF! Hardest part is finding someone that looks like her. lol


Scientology is cardboard boxes, cottage cheese and the sound of children's laughter. It's prison camp and the itchy rash from ant bites all over your ass. It's signing your child away for his first billion years in the Sea Org. It's life, it's selling Scientology.


Nope, the tech won't make them any more effective.  The tech proscribes exactly the techniques they are supposed to use to dead-agent their critics, and they cannot deviate.  It's particularly ineffective in the age of the internet, but LRH, in spite of his super-duper OT powerz, never imagined the internet so his "tech" is woefully antiquated.

I do find the Scilon postings in here to be entertaining, but they're also frustrating because it's not a two-way conversation.  Most never do come back and read our responses to them (well, except for Marcotai, who many believe isn't a real Scilon anyway).  They just drop their little dead-agent grenades and run off.  We always have a blast calling them out and laughing at them, and that's fun and all, but we need to remember that we're the only ones seeing it.  THEY aren't even ALLOWED to see our responses!  Entheta, doncha know.  They post their little grenades and then take off, cackling at all the damage they think they're inflicting, never realizing that their grenades are complete duds that do nothing but inspire laughter and eye-rolling.


I have to disagree that he has a good heart.  Whatever heart he had appears to have been twisted and blackened into oblivion by his adherence to the sick tenets of this abusive criminal cult.  I used to feel pity for his poor deluded soul, until he openly supported preventing a mother from seeing or even communicating with her severely injured teenage son, simply because she chose to leave Scientology.  As a mother of a teenage son myself, I found that to be so vile and heartless that any sympathy I had left for him flew out the window. 

As far as I'm concerned, any punishment he might be getting in the RPF is well-deserved.  I hope he's choking on the crappy slop they serve for dinner.

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

I have a terrible feeling he's in the RPF. Hope he's ok?


Just like any "well-trained" Scientologist, Cruise doesn't read anything other than what he believes was written by LRH. 


 A conned coward is a conned coward


As evidenced from his movies, Tom Cruise mostly concentrates on running. 


It's hiding crimes and cow pie faces. Licking bathroom floors to start the day. It's every man for himself to pull in new money and meat, and knowing this sucker is going to be totally ruined in all facets of life within just a few months. It's life, and only we know what it should be.


Scientia, I hear you.  I've been taken to task in here before for my rather uncompromising position on Miglio, and I really do completely understand the counterpoints. Believe me when I say I do have compassion for the deluded souls trapped in the cult, and how it twists them and makes them do things that are beyond the limits of their normal character.

Still, we all are responsible for our own actions, and he's choosing his path. The difference between Miglio and so many other Scilons is that the truth has been laid at his feet and practically shoved down his throat, but he continues to reject it. So many others trapped in the cult never get the chance to see or hear the truth...but he does, and he chooses to disregard it.

That one story (Lori Hodgson and her injured son) just really hit me hard - I literally cried.  I've had my differences with my kids before, and we've found ourselves in some pretty difficult circumstances...but regardless of whatever went on between us, the idea of being prevented from being with them in the event of a horrific accident such as one one suffered by Lori Hodgson's teenage son - well, if someone ever did that to me, I would do whatever I had to do, up to and including severely injuring them, to be with my child.  Nobody keeps a mother from her suffering children, and anyone who supports doing so is, in my mind, lower than a piece of cockroach shit and not worthy to be considered a human being.  I guess that's just the grizzly-mama in me.


I don't think he really believes that, personally. As a churchie I used to find all sorts of ways to make the "church" right and the whining outsiders wrong. It's an insane defence mechanism and totally robotic. I'm not trying to defend the guy and I totally get where you're coming from, but having been there I can appreciate what a headfuck it is to someone so conflicted, someone who lacks the strength to investigate and confront what is an incredibly sad and uncomfortable reality. Think of an alcoholic or drug addict who won't admit s/he has a problem. It's frikkin' hard for some people. And whilst we're on the subject, a person who is off their tits is quite capable of acting in a way that is out of character. It's a crude analogy, sure, but there's truth in it, I feel. Take Mark out of the cultic environment/mindset and I have no doubt his inherent goodness and decency will be restored.

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