Scientology's Shocking Treatment of Children Held in a Suburban Labor Camp

Shocking news this morning from journalist Bryan Seymour in Australia. In a story for the program TodayTonight that took him more than a year to put together, Seymour blows the lid off a re-education camp operated by Scientology in a suburb of Sydney, where children as young as eight years old have worked long hours for no pay. One of those kids, Shane Kelsey, now 21, finally left the camp last year, and Seymour was there to film Shane's reunion with his father, who now feels horrible guilt for leaving the boy in the camp to begin with. At only 8 years old, Shane signed a billion-year contract with Scientology's Sea Organization and was working 35 hours a week -- by the time he was 15, he was working 100 hours, for about $35 a week.

In a statement, Scientology made its standard claim that its "Rehabilitation Project Force" (which Shane experienced at 16) is a voluntary program, and is intended for Sea Org members who "commit serious breaches of ecclesiastical rules."

Let that sink in a minute. A prison-like camp for members who break ecclesiastical rules -- while only 16 years old.

Seymour let us know his story was coming. We're printing here the script to his incredible expose of Scientology's shameful child prison camp. We're also printing in full the response sent by the church, and we have some words from Seymour himself about how he put together this project, which took 14 full months to come together.

First, the script to this blockbuster story...

Scientology Labour Camps

Reporter Bryan Seymour
Broadcast February 14, 2012

It is Australia's secret compound where men, women and children are kept virtual prisoners.

It's right in the middle of a quiet suburb.

It's also a place where children are separated from their parents, forced to work full time for no pay and live in squalid conditions.

Those who've survived this place say they were brainwashed into believing they could not leave and that they deserved the shocking treatment dished out.

Tonight you'll meet a young man who escaped this place with the help of his father.

"I lived in that garage for about a year and a half, maybe two years," said Shane Kelsey, a former Scientologist.

"Shane's story is one of shocking abuse, child abuse, it's one of a child being enslaved," said Senator Nick Xenophon.

"I was there for 10 years all up in the Church of Scientology as a staff member, and how could I inflict that on my children which I'll forever feel like I have to make up," said another former Scientologist, Peta O'Brien.

Shane Kelsey is now 21 years old. Until just over a year ago he had never used the Internet, watched television or followed the media.

"You're not allowed to read any books other than Scientology books, you can't read newspapers, no radio, no movies, nothing," Shane said.

Shane says he was held captive and groomed to see all of us on the outside as pathetic, useless and stupid.

"So I lived in a garage until that got flooded by a storm and my mum got really pissed off and said 'what the hell' and so I got moved into a closet. It is a closet under the stairs... maybe two meters long and a meter wide," Shane said.

This is the true Australian headquarters of the Church of Scientology. In the Sydney suburb of Dundas lays the RPF base -- it stands for Rehabilitation Project Force. It's
where Scientologists are sent for punishment and training... For crimes that most of us would regard as trivial.

Reporter Bryan Seymour at the Base: "Scientology promised us someone would come and talk to us, that hasn't happened. I couldn't get through on the phone. More than 50 requests for interviews on camera have been flatly refused. The bottom line is they don't want people to know what's going on inside there, those who've lived in there like Shane, say it's like a gulag, a prison and yet it's in the middle of a suburb, it could be any suburb in Australia. People here would he horrified to know what has been going on in there for so many years and continues to this day."

Shane Kelsey's mother and father were dedicated Scientologists in Sydney, so they put their son Shane into its highest corps at the age of six -- little Shane moved into a tiny room with 11 other children.

By the age of seven...

Shane: "We'd go down the streets and there'd be eight of us, ten of us, young as and we'd go down and pledge people up to drug free lives."

Seymour: "How old were you when you first started doing that?"

Shane: "I first started doing that when I was seven."

At the age of eight...

Shane: "I signed my contract when I was eight years old."

Seymour: "And what was the contract for?

Shane: "It was a billion year contract."

Seymour: "Billion year contract?"

Shane: "Hmm, hmm." (nods)

Seymour: "And what does that mean?"

Shane: "It means you're volunteering or servicing the Church for the next billion years....We used to do marching, close order drilling, things like that."

Seymour: "What for, were you preparing for battle?"

Shane: "No, just because it was a form of discipline."

Seymour: "How often were you able to see your parents?"

Shane: "I saw them once a week."

Shane's mother and father would soon separate and his dad Adrian moved overseas then left Scientology.

Meanwhile, the work schedule for children was full time, hard and without reward.

Seymour: "You were working 35 hours a week when you were eight years old. How many hours a week did that grow by the time you were, say, 14?"

Shane: "Ahh, by the time I was 14 I was working in the kitchen."

A military muster every morning required marching and saluting to the cause of saving mankind from the intergalactic ravages described by its science fiction founder L. Ron Hubbard.

They wore all black uniforms and were required to run always, never walk.

So-called home schooling was provided in fits and starts, taking a back seat to hard labor and brainwashing.

Shane: "As soon as you turn 15, anyone, you're straight out of school. It doesn't matter what grade you're in, what level of maths, what level of anything, you're straight out."

The mess hall served food priced at 30 cents per meal, mostly beans and rice. The adults ate first.

Shane: "Yeah, that's right... they would all come in and eat whatever they wanted and then we went after them to take what's there... sometimes there wouldn't be much so you'd get little bits of food and it wasn't really sufficient."

Those who dared question the brutality of this place were dealt with swiftly and severely.

Shane: "They used to live under our squash's a mud, dirt floor...We put people in there and they live in there, when they're on the RPF's RPF they'd sleep down there and they'd study down there."

Seymour: "Why would you put people in a dank, mouldy, sinking foundation underneath a squash court?"

Shane: "Because you're a bad person, you have to be segregated from everyone," Shane said.

By the age of 15 Shane was living a nightmare even he now struggles to believe.

Shane: "As soon as i turned 15 I was seven days a week, 14 hour days."

Seymour: "That's 100 hours a week?"

Shane: "Yeah."

In a commercial kitchen, Shane and other children slaved away -- cooking meals all day every day... studying and snatching what little sleep they could.

Shane: "We'd get anywhere between $4 pay to $35 ($35 a day?) $35 a week."

"That's completely unacceptable, but there's not a law in New South Wales that makes it illegal to work a child for those hours... that's extraordinary, but that's the case," said lawyer Grainne O'Donovan.

Among those who needed to be fed was billionaire James Packer. For several years beginning in 2002, Mr Packer came to the Church of Scientology in the early mornings to receive auditing and instruction.

Seymour: "How much did you get paid for cooking meals for James Packer?"

Shane: "I didn't get paid anything, there was no bonus or anything, it was just the meal you cooked."

There is no suggestion Mr Packer had any idea who was preparing his meals or their work conditions.

Seymour: "What did you cook for him, do you remember?"

Shane: "Oh, just steak and chips or a nice salad or omelets those kinds of things, it had to be nice, like it wouldn't just be sloppy, it had to be nice."

Mr Packer left Scientology around 2008. It would be more than two years until Shane made his break for freedom.

In late 2010, Adrian Kelsey decided to rescue his son.

He invited us to document his attempt. He informed police of his plans to go to the compound and demand his son's release. He had protest signs ready if they refuse to let him come out. Then Shane came out to meet his father... the first they'd seen each other in four years.

Shane and Adrian were followed by Scientology "enforcers," so Shane reluctantly returned to the compound to avoid trouble. One week later he was sent to work near the compound's boundary and he made a break for it.

"Scientology have no right to mess with family," said Adrian Kelsey.

It took Shane 14 months to shake off Scientology, discover the truth, learn about the real world and tell his story.

"One thing that would be good is if they actually just stood up and said 'Sorry, it wasn't right, we're going to change it' -- but that is just not going to happen," Adrian said.

"Shocking! There were also children at the house," said Peta Obrien, who lived at the RPF base between 1997 and 2000. She confirms Shane's account of the appalling conditions.

"You do two hours of work, then you go and study for two and a half hours in the RPF it was five hours and then you go to work again, hard labor, picking with a rock pick, chipping away at rocks till they erode," O'Brien said.

Now a successful architectural designer, Peta believes Scientology has nothing of value to offer the community.

"Close it down, doors shut and all the staff members going back to their families and living their lives," O'Brien said.

"This is degrading and inhumane treatment,' said lawyer Grainne O'Donovan. Based in Perth, O'Donovan has devoted her time and expertise to helping survivors of the cult seeking justice. O'Donovan has also campaigned with the Internet-based activist group Anonymous that has raised awareness about Scientology.

"At some level they (Scientology) have become convinced, I suppose, that it's appropriate and that the group is more important than the individual," O'Donovan said.

RPF bases like the Sydney compound exist in other countries. Those who've escaped from them tell similar stories - Having fingers broken on the orders of the leader of Scientology, screamed at and slapped for 20 hours straight whilst having cold water poured over their head and much more... much worse.

"The authorities need to investigate this urgently. This is something that requires police investigation," said Independent Federal Senator Nick Xenophon, who has championed a campaign to shed light on the darkness at the heart of this group.

"What makes this worse is that this organization is being subsidized by Australian taxpayers because it doesn't pay any tax," Senator Xenophon said.

Shane has his father back, yet his mother Lesley remains inside Scientology.

"I hope she hears word of this and sums up the courage to actually find it and watch it," Shane said.

"She will, she will have to escape... yeah, they won't let her go... leaving's not an option, she will have to escape," Shane said.

The Church of Scientology refused to be interviewed for this story. In a written response Scientology denied any mistreatment of its members.

The response also declared:

"Anyone on the program is there because they want to be there..."

"They are completely free to withdraw at any time during induction or later."

"When Shane left the church in late 2010, he simply got his bag and walked out the door..."

"It is very sad that Shane has changed his story..."

The celebrities used to advertise Scientology likely have little idea that people like Shane Kelsey even exist.

Now they do.

Adrian and Shane hope they do something about it for the sake of other families.

"I regained a son."

"I got my dad."

And here's what Seymour sent us when we asked how he managed to put this story together...

Adrian Kelsey made contact with me about 18 months ago. He'd seen many of the stories I had done and wanted to tell me about his son Shane.

Shane was a member of the Sea Org who signed his billion year contract at the age of eight. He had spent the last few years in the RPF base at Dundas.

Over four years, Adrian had not been able to see his son. Instead they made do with a few letters and phone calls that were monitored by Sea Org staff. Still, Adrian got the sense that his son wanted to leave and he decided to help him.

I went with Adrian, at his request, on a rainy day in November 2010 as he tried to rescue his son. First, Adrian stopped at the Parramatta Police Station to inform them of his intentions to go and demand his son's release and, if he did not come out, to start protesting at the compound with signs he'd prepared and put in the boot of his car.

Adrian went to the Dundas RPF and disappeared down the long driveway and inside. I waited in a non-descript car with my camera crew and I quickly noticed several Scientologists checking us out. I realised they knew I was there and that they recognised I was with the media. My only concern then was that this might hinder any chance of Adrian and Shane's long-overdue reunion. It had the opposite effect, of course, and Shane soon appeared with his father.

I followed Adrian and Shane to a shopping centre and left them to catch up at an eatery in the mall. After about an hour I wandered up and introduced myself. Shane was reticent to talk and appeared nervous. It wasn't until much later I discovered that three Scientology "minders" or goons had followed us and were observing Shane, his father and me. I left Adrian and Shane alone and thought at the time that I hoped Shane would one day be able to tell his story...

...skip forward 14 months. Shane "blew" or escaped the RPF base just one week after that meeting with his father Adrian. He then had to learn about the real world... the Internet he had never used... common law... television... the media... history... the truth about L Ron Hubbard and Scientology. It must have been an awful lot to take in and I was surprised that Shane was ready to speak with me after only 14 months.

This story is about the abuse of people's basic human rights. It is also about a family; one of many ripped apart in the service of Scientology.

Importantly, Shane's mother Lesley Warren remains inside Scientology. Shane has expressed his hope that she too leaves the cult and that he is not completely cut off from contact with her.

As for me -- I hope this story raises awareness and prompts an appropriate response in the public interest... and that no more families, children or people endure the abuse, neglect and manipulation detailed in this and other reports.

And now, here's the church's response to Seymour's story...

Response to Today Tonight from the Church of Scientology:


Shane was always treated with care and respect during his time with the Church. When Shane came to live with his mother, sent here by his father Adrian who had full custody, it was apparent that whilst under his father's guardianship, Shane's education suffered a setback when he was living in Mexico and he was at least two years behind in his education.

This is detailed in a letter that Adrian Kelsey wrote to Shane's mother in 1996, a copy of which was just provided to the Church. When Shane came to his mother, his reading and writing were substandard and he had other personal problems. Shane was then home schooled and his literacy improved drastically and he undertook several programs to improve his study.

When Shane did decide to leave the RPF, he simply walked out, with absolutely no barriers and caught a plane. There are no gates and the Church facilities are on a wide open property, highly visible from the street and anyone can leave and enter the property at any time. The Church has toured members of the Australian media through our premises as well as other officials (including the police). Shane simply left (as a grown adult) and other than his mother being in contact with him who was understandably concerned for his welfare and whereabouts, no Church staff member originated any communication to Shane after he left.

He was not followed, visited, or called. He sent several emails to the Church a few months later and was assisted with his personal requests.

Whilst Shane was on the RPF, he agreed that he would do the program and this included not watching TV or movies or reading novels. This was only for the set time of the program and this is not unlike other religious programs. Prior to his joining the RPF program, Shane read any novel, watched any movie, or whatever he chose. Shane had a short holiday with family mid the program and went to the movies and fishing as well as other activities.

Proper meals are provided to all Church staff on the premises at numerous times in the day. There is ample food and a varied and nutritious menu.

Other children who were brought up in the Sea Org have gone on to earn degrees with high literacy and competence exhibited.


The Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF) is a voluntary religious program of spiritual rehabilitation to provide a "second chance" to those who have failed to fulfill their ecclesiastical responsibilities as members of the Sea Organization, the religious order of the Church of Scientology. It represents a free religious commitment by the individual to a spiritual discipline. The word "force" in this context means a group of people acting together.

The RPF is based upon one of oldest and most fundamental concepts in religion--a religious retreat in the form of a cloister focusing on intensive spiritual introspection and study and balanced by some form of physical labour. This practice is common to the religious orders of many other world religions in addition to Scientology including Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism and the monastic orders of the Roman Catholic Church.

The RPF was created during the 1970s at the request of Sea Organization members in order to be given a second chance. As with any religious program requiring high spiritual and ethical standards as well as dedicated service, some Sea Org members stumble in their effort to maintain such high standards and a few members commit serious breaches of ecclesiastical rules governing their conduct as a member of this order.

In such a situation, the individual is given the choice of either leaving the Sea Organization or participating in a religious program designed to provide the individual with an opportunity to progress spiritually and remedy past shortcomings -- the Rehabilitation Project Force religious program.

The program is done voluntarily for purposes of penance and amends. It consists of 5 hours scripture study and counselling per day and extroverting physical actions. The program is devoid of luxuries, to motivate the individual to improve himself and get through the program to once again be a capable and contributing member of the group. It is conducted in the Church facilities which contain grounds, gardens and the property is open to the street with free access to and from the property.

Every Sea Organization member who does the RPF is only permitted to do so after reading all relevant Church policies, so they can give fully informed consent for their participation. It is a voluntary religious program of spiritual rehabilitation. This is expressed in the expertises of J. Gordon Melton, Professor of Religion at the University of California; Frank K. Flinn, Adjunct Professor of Religious Studies at Washington University, St. Louis, Missouri; Juha Pentikäinen, Chair of the Department of the Study of Religions, University of Helsinki, et al., who have studied the RPF and provide the true and scholarly information on this subject.

There are many accounts from those who have undertaken the program, expressing the countless benefits they have experienced from doing so, and also expressing their gratitude that they were given the opportunity. People do leave the program without completing it and leave the religious order.

Before participating in the RPF, any applicant for the program signs an "Acknowledgement of RPF Assignment and Election to Proceed" which states the following:

"LASTLY, I FURTHER ACKNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTAND that I need not sign this Acknowledgement and Election to Proceed and I need not proceed to the introductory and preparatory stages of the RPF, as this entire religious atonement process is designed and intended to be totally voluntary, and I MAY NOW OR AT ANY TIME DURING MY PARTICIPATION IN THE RPF CHOOSE TO DECLINE TO PARTICIPATE AND TERMINATE MY MEMBERSHIP IN THE SEA ORGANIZATION."

Once again, Scientology claims that its horrific programs of control, nearly unpaid hard labor, and years long deprivation are somehow a kind of uplifting spiritual self-help program.

But Seymour's story about what Senator Xenophon characterizes as child abuse comes just days after one of Scientology's most respected longtime officials, Debbie Cook, testified in a San Antonio courtroom that church leader David Miscavige subjected about a hundred of the church's highest executives to years of sadistic, almost unbelievable abuse by locking them in trailers at Scientology's international base in the desert of Southern California.

Executives held in a kind of bizarre workplace prison. Children worked long hours for little or no pay at only eight years old. Clearly, Scientology's treatment of its own people is becoming a bigger story than its odd space opera beliefs. And we'll have more on that Wednesday morning.

Update: Bryan Seymour appeared on an Australian morning show to discuss the story...

Debbie Cook Coverage in the Village Voice...

January 1: Scientology rocked by allegations of greed in e-mail to 12,000 church members
January 3: Is Scientology imploding? Watching the panic after a former executive dares to question church management
January 4: Scientology in crisis: Debbie Cook's transformation from enforcer to whistleblower
January 6: Scientology in turmoil: Debbie Cook's e-mail, annotated
January 31: Scientology sues Debbie Cook over her New Year's Eve e-mail
February 2: Debbie Cook files to dissolve Scientology's temporary restraining order: We talk to her attorney, Ray Jeffrey
February 3: Debbie Cook's motion denied: Scientology's restraining order remains in place until Thursday hearing
February 4: Scientology wants it both ways: The church's opposite legal strategies in Florida and Texas
February 9: The Voice live-blogs Debbie Cook's testimony in a San Antonio courtroom
February 10: Debbie Cook's hearing, day two -- Scientology surrenders at the Alamo
February 11: The Debbie Cook interview

Also, please see our primer, "What is Scientology?"

Tony Ortega is the editor-in-chief of The Village Voice. Since 1995, he's been writing about Scientology at several publications. | @VoiceTonyO | Facebook: Tony Ortega

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Sounds like a case of child abuse!  Someone should file a lawsuit to stop this from happening!


I have been in the Sea Organisation and am a Scientologist and I can tell you that if it wasn't for Scientology I wouldn't be here today. Scientologists and the Sea Organisation help millions of people all over the world. The living conditions were no where near as bad as in this report and I actually quite enjoyed my time in the Sea Org. Shane Kesley was always a problem kid and I'm not surprised he did this news article, I take with a grain of salt as I'm sure it was far less uncomfortable then he suggests. 


 de.Anytime the Church decides, or is lured, in to a public response – TO ANYTHING – we get closer to the end of the Miscavige regime.

Pouw’s response compares the RPF to Monks spending years in meditative religious seclusion then talks about the RPF as penance for severe breach of ecclesiastical responsibilities.

Sorry, Karen, but the article is about a child, living on dirt floors and being used as slave labor. How could a kid even be in a position of having ecclesiastical responsibilities to breach?. What did he do, not make his bed?. Are you seriously trying to label this kid’s years in the RPF as a religious experience?

Pouw’s comparison of this kid’s life in the RPF to some Monk on a vision-quest shows RCS for what it is…. A dangerous, abusive group hiding behind the word religion.

Keeping talking (or sockpuppeting for your master) as I’m starting to think you are on our side.

Anytime the Church decides, or is lured, in to a public response – TO ANYTHING – we get closer to the end of the Miscavige regime.

Pouw’s response compares the RPF to Monks spending years in meditative religious seclusion then talks about the RPF as penance for severe breach of ecclesiastical responsibilities.

Sorry, Karen, but the article is about a child, living on dirt floors and being used as slave labor. How could a kid even be in a position of having ecclesiastical responsibilities to breach?. What did he do, not make his bed?. Are you seriously trying to label this kid’s years in the RPF as a religious experience?

Pouw’s comparison of this kid’s life in the RPF to some Monk on a vision-quest shows RCS for what it is…. A dangerous, abusive group hiding behind the word religion.

Keeping talking (or sockpuppeting for your master) as I’m starting to think you are on our side.


I am so sad and sickened right now as I look at my 10 year old grandson sitting across from me right now.  How can ANYONE do this to a child?  Something has to be done.  I have written every agency possible and still NO response.  How may children and adults must either be held captive for life, die or have nervous breakdowns all caused by the demented David Miscavige.It's apparent now that he enjoys torturing people, including children.  Please....get rid of this tyrant!!!!!


Not even imperial slaves worked 100 hr weeks, much less did they do so as children. The COS is something beyond slavery, beyond evil, and the governments are letting them get away with these massive crimes against humanity. The authorities have been made aware of COS child enslavement for a long, long time. They are very happy to take their paycheck and look the other way. They must now be removed from office and replaced by people who simply do their job. If we allow our children to be enslaved, we are not a civil society and we are just as bad as the greedy and cowardly authorities.


 Tony Ortega have you told Bryan Seymour about Mark Bunkers doco as well as the Lisa McPherson saga.

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SP ' Onage

“If you can tell the difference between a lot of little kids you run into, and psychos, I’ll give you a medal.”L. Ron Hubbard, Professional Auditor’s Bulletin Nr. 119 “The Big Auditing Problem”, 1.9.1958.


I dont know if Marcotia is a troll or scilon,but as a hardened troll myself the best way to discourage them is to ignore completely(which will never happen here) or simply post the phrase  "Cool story bro"  under their posts,it drives us nuts.


Marcotai - advocate for child slavery, active Scientologist

Hatchune Shun
Hatchune Shun

That's...sick..Shut em down Senator Xenophon.SHUT EM DOWN.

Kim O'Brien
Kim O'Brien

sorry if someone already posted this but The Raw Story blog has a story / interview about scientology abuse . 


It's really getting to the point that there is no way that the Scientology celebrities can possibly still claim to know nothing of the criticisms of Scientology under that tyrant Miscavige.

It's time, Mr. Travolta. You're a decent family man at heart. It's time to step up and help end the abuses within Scientology. You can do it. 


I used to live in Dundas (Tallowwood CT) and my back garden was overlooked by the grounds of the building. We had no idea what really happened there, but we knew that it was some kind of rehabilitation centre. My daughter was in our garden talking to the boy next door and they were asked if they wanted to go and play tennis in the grounds, thankfully they refused and told me straight away. what was strange though was that they also seemed to know a lot about us even describing our car and the fact that I was in the Forces, It was like they were watching everyone's move in Tallowwood CT. Another strange thing that I noticed was that behind my back fence there was a bit of a no mans land and you could often hear voices behind there as they were doing some sort of gardening. One day my son kicked a ball over there so I climbed the fence to get it and had to jump down, and behind there there were about 50 milk crates that had been buried for what I could see was no apparent reason, It was then that I realised they were a bit odd, so told my children that if they ever tried to speak to them let me know. Most of the people we saw from day to day were between 20 to 30. a bus was often seen driving in and out of the compound and school chidren used to joke about the it.The bus was usually full of children who knows where they had been taken or if they had just been brought to the building. I have since moved to WA and after seeing and reading this proves my point that alot of strange things went on there. But hopefully now something will be done about it. Ioften walked the dog and wondered what was going on in there,now I know


A bridge to Far- starring DMMission Impossible - starring TC


If you look at the particular celebrities involved in Scientology it makes sense. The few that I am aware of all have some type of mental issue or problem (insecurity, weight, instability, personality disorders) and are not strong or exceptionally bright individuals. They look for easy answers that can be purchased,  and are lured in by the attention and false praise feeding their narcissistic personalities.


Just so people can again get a grasp of how scientology is anti-family, here is what hubbard says about "family"

"THE GE IS A FAMILY MAN The GE is a family man; the GE is lost without a family. It's very strange, but Homo sap is a family unit. The GE is built on that basis. It's fascinating, fascinating. It's not important to know it but a lot of your urges toward families and so forth are not thetan urges at all, they're the GE. The GE can't survive at all without a family unit. He's just as dead as a mackerel if he isn't a family unit, whereas your thetan is just dead as a mackerel if he gets too mixed up in family units. You can't talk to GEs; they're kind of psycho. And by the way, you can fall into this dreadful trap with a GE. You see, he uses the MEST universe with which to build. He's gotten very, very bad off and he has to use MEST materials all the time. So, you get this situation here with the GE, and your GE is busy: build, build, build, build, build. And, of course he's got to have a family to build with. You get this terrific family thirst. And you get your GE surviving best and being loused up the most because of interfamily relationships. And your thetan, by the way, can much more easily go into a group. Families are not good groups; they're bad groups." LRH, From the taped lecture "Flows: Patterns of Interaction" 10 December 1952


Get with the programme, programme,programme,  Drone Alert

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

Tony, thanks for the update video on Bryan. I can't believe they offered him auditing, yeah right, more like Operation: Brainwashing Bryan.

They sure like to use their celebrities to pull you in. Great to hear Bryan admitting to that. hehe


claire hamilton was on anzo rpf


Marcotai your afraid of going to the RPF , face it.

As for the response to allegations made against scientology, well what a load of crap if i ever heard it.  They are experts at covering up, lying through their back teeth.

This so called church should be held accou ntable.  It should be raided as they do in any country that has child slave labour. Forced to sign a billion year contract, at an age when they do not fully understand the implications is just darn right mad.

Give unto caezar that which is caezars, the law of the land should be above any abusive laws of any church, and if suspected of abuse should be able to carrry out raids at will.

These people are Wolves in sheeps clothing, with an outside pretence of being Good, and wholesome , but inwardly are Ravenous and Very Very dangerous indeed. Thank God that this lads, father helped to get him out.  But how many others are still inside , that have no one to help them.  I pray God Helps them, and soon


re neil gaiman - who appears to have propped the church up - he is remarried and i thought coraline was a very deep criticism of the whole getting into scio and taking your kids there. I felt resonance with it - the candy turning into control, marty says claire has dissappeared??? he has his own agenda

Nexi Bello
Nexi Bello

you wrote "I'm sure it was far less uncomfortable then he suggests" and not "I know it was far less uncomfortable then he suggests" ....But still.... there is a slight possibility that what you wrote is what YOU decided to write and not what you were told to write.... and that you also watched the video and read one or the other comments here yourself... If so, then you really should go on reading on http : // exscientologykids . com /(remove spaces)


@shesajem  Shane, Debbie Cook and many, many other ex-Sea Org members have suffered extreme horrors in Scientology's Sea Organization, even if it was "no where near as bad" for others.  Not sure how you know about Shane being a "problem kid" but I wouldn't doubt it given the horrendous abusive conditions under which he was raised in Scientology.  I'm so happy he's free now.  And hope for all of those still in the trap to get out soon too.

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

Nice. Thanks for the heads up. :-)

Nexi Bello
Nexi Bello

I'm intrigued by the buried milk crates. It seems obvious that it was part of a punishment (instead of being made to run around a pole one had to bury/un-bury milk crates). But there might be more: - suppressive milk crates? what had they done?- they run out of clay, it's a milk crate demo for.....- another Scientology symbol distinguishable only from an aerial view?- they planned to grow vegetables (beans...) in the crates but misread the instructions.- ....

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

Yep. That's why they have a celebrity center, to pamper and woooo the celebrities. The dumb celebrities don't even know they're being bugged/video taped. heheheh

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

The exploration of how Dianetics is applied to children shows that in Scientology the family is very much in second place.

Children are often brought up by unrelated people without love or affection. They learn to follow orders blindly. Their own opinion, if they have one, counts for nothing. They learn to seek power and how to control other people. They learn not to be affectionate towards other people.

The family is not important for Scientology children for they never experience “normal” family life. Scientology wants to make these children into Homo Novis, the new race of supermen that are to dominate the world, a world in which there will be no sick, weak or disabled people.


GE brings good things to life. ET phone home. I'm kind of sorry I looked up GE to find it means Genetic Entity: A low-grade soul that stores whole track engrams. He was full-o-crazy wasn't he? The only thing worse for me than reading his tripe, is hearing his lectures.

"You get this terrific family thirst."

Scientology can help you with family thirst. And people wonder why no one [outside the cult] ever quotes Hubbard. Gives credence to Skip's theories of hypnotism.


Scientoligists have offered Bryan the chance to keep the E-meter" cans?The e-meter is a 2 volt machine. How on Earth he could give up his psychiatric ECT which is 400 volts on his skull at every session? 


Inzaghi was a AC Milan striker.


Trolls don't go to the RPF!Lol


"Families are not good groups; they're bad groups."

So, hunger only to serve L. Ron Hubbard. He would have gone well with some fava beans and a nice chianti.


Hello Marco, If you can deliver as proof, any Scientologist, I mean any, that can actually DEMONSTRATE the  OT abilities as ADVERTISED by you glorious Commodore L Ron Hubbard, I will happily give you (if you have what it takes) a full on Blow-Job on National Television!! BUT, in order to receive such pleasures, your OT must demonstrate all powers over MEST, you know like moving objects at will, out of body stuff, burning my skin off just by thinking about it, all that cool stuff L Ron told us we could do, after spending TONS of cash of course!! So what do you say Marco ?? are you up to the chalange? if you win, I can't guarantee the best bj, (I've never done one) but I will try real hard....So Sport what do ya say??? bring it on...I am challenging you Marco don't back out !!


 Marcotai. Your Body Thetans are very enturbulated right now. All of this entheta is too much for you. You are not supposed to be reading this entheta. You need to come into the org NOW for sec checking. Bring funds.


Yet another instance of you showing you are no more a scientologist than TonyO.Troll away marcotroll


Haha, troll, I always knew you were Italian LOL


Ohh so you wouldnt like to go, Marco, you know all about it do you


 "What every young man   should learn…"

  “Its amazing. Ifound this out about girls very unfortunately, very, very young. I foundout when they were mad at you, their attention yanked off of it very easilyby giving them a box of candy, a new dress, or something like that.Disillusioned me. I put it this way to myself when I found out how easythis was -- I put it this way to myself; well, their anger was insincere. Idon’t know what I considered sincere anger was.  “Then later on -- later on -- later on I finally discovered thehorrible truth that they merely wanted reassurance of your affection; thatwas the only thing they wanted. And when you presented this in a solid massform, why, they were convinced. And that was about all there was to it; itwas a very simple mechanism. Served to collect their attention quick fromthe old quarrel. What was easier? It’s too bad every young mandoesn’t learn this and then there would be a very, very calmcivilization here, I’m sure. Frankly, all you’d need to knowabout a marriage. …   “Yeah, you givegirls things because you like them and to centralize their attention off ofall the bad things you’re done or said.”  - L. RonHubbardExcerpted from the 20th American ACC.


This story is so disturbing and disgusting, but you just made me smile, Mark. Thanks :D

And please don't feel the troll.


is tghat a short catholic pole or a junior case short catholic polereference to tomas cruise (tomas mapother ther third) and david miscavage heritage


Nope, just a straying neuron, ;)


Hit a nerve me thinks


Yeh your miscavige, playing one of your childish games, because as a child neglected, didnt have fun, and was made to do what u didnt want too, had no attention, so seeks and craves attention. You use this as your forum for all you lacked as a child, and im sorry if that is true for you


I don't have to go around a pole, dude. I'm the pole!


he would be running around a pole to find out who he is


More repulsive sentiments from the "Source."

He was a truly reprehensible, disgusting, and evil man.  Who founded a faux religion.

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