Scientology Sunday Funnies: Fresh Meat in the Windy City!

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Scientologists don't really have a Sunday service. They like to say that they do, because they crave mainstream acceptance. But unless Xenu rested after six days and L. Ron Hubbard just forgot to mention it, there's no reason for Scientologists to treat Sunday any differently than every other day of coursework, detoxes, fundraising, and generally clearing the planet.

So here at the Voice, we've come up with a Scientology Sunday tradition of our own, and we call it Sunday Funnies! Our sources regularly send us Scientology's wacky and tacky fundraising mailers, and each week we choose three of them to gaze upon, hoping that it inspires you to wax eloquent in our comments section. So here we go...

Ah, ripe young targets in the Windy City!

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The OT8s are coming! The OT8s are coming! San Diego wants you to learn how to "make yourself known."

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And here's a report of how Melbourne's big Ideal Org 1-year anniversary party went down. Good times!

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Scientology, it's just one big party. Please weigh in with your thoughts on these mailers or on anything at all. Let's have some fun this Sunday before things get serious again. We should have a pretty big story for you tomorrow morning...


Debbie Cook Coverage in the Village Voice...

January 1: Scientology rocked by allegations of greed in e-mail to 12,000 church members

January 3: Is Scientology imploding? Watching the panic after a former executive dares to question church management

January 4: Scientology in crisis: Debbie Cook's transformation from enforcer to whistleblower

January 6: Scientology in turmoil: Debbie Cook's e-mail, annotated

January 31: Scientology sues Debbie Cook over her New Year's Eve e-mail

February 2: Debbie Cook files to dissolve Scientology's temporary restraining order: We talk to her attorney, Ray Jeffrey

February 3: Debbie Cook's motion denied: Scientology's restraining order remains in place until Thursday hearing

February 4: Scientology wants it both ways: The church's opposite legal strategies in Florida and Texas

Also, please see our primer, "What is Scientology?"


Tony Ortega is the editor-in-chief of The Village Voice. Since 1995, he's been writing about Scientology at several publications.

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[Commenters of the Week] | [Thursday 2pm Stats!] | [Scientology vs. South Park]
[This Week Aboard the Apollo] | [Sunday Funnies]

FEATURED INVESTIGATIONS

[Scientology spokesman Tommy Davis secretly recorded discussing "disconnection"]
[Benjamin Ring, LA deputy sheriff, wants you to spend your 401K on Scientology]
[Scientologists: How many of them are there, anyway?]
[Scientology hates clean ice: The "Fair Game" operation that should turn your stomach]
[Scientology hates clean ice, part 2: Another target, and the web as weapon]
[Paulette Cooper, Scientology's original and worst nightmare: a Thanksgiving tribute]

THE TOP 25 PEOPLE CRIPPLING SCIENTOLOGY

1. L. Ron Hubbard | 2. David Miscavige | 3. Marty Rathbun | 4. Tom Cruise | 5. Joe Childs and Tom Tobin | 6. Anonymous | 7. Mark Bunker | 8. Mike Rinder | 9. Jason Beghe | 10. Lisa McPherson | 11. Nick Xenophon | 12. Tommy Davis | 13. Janet Reitman | 14. Tory Christman | 15. Andreas Heldal-Lund | 16. Marc and Claire Headley | 17. Jefferson Hawkins | 18. Amy Scobee | 19. The Squirrel Busters | 20. Trey Parker and Matt Stone | 21. Kendrick Moxon | 22. Jamie DeWolf | 23. Ken Dandar | 24. Dave Touretzky | 25. Xenu

HELD ABOARD THE FREEWINDS: TALES OF THE SEA ORG

[Valeska Paris, held against her will from 1996 to 2007 on Scientology's cruise ship]
[Ramana Dienes-Browning, marriage at 16, sexual interrogation, life in the engine room]
[Melissa Paris, Valeska's sister: forced to marry at 16]

SCIENTOLOGY VS. SOUTH PARK: INVESTIGATION AS RETALIATION

[Scientology targeted South Park's Parker and Stone in an investigation]
[More documents in the South Park probe: instructions to send in a young mole]
[Scientology responds in typical fashion] | [Lloyd Kaufman confirms the probe]
[Mark Ebner also investigated after South Park involvement]
[Mark Chauppetta, private eye, explains what Scientology operatives look for]

MARTY RATHBUN AND THE SIEGE OF SOUTH TEXAS

[Scientology has Rathbun arrested] | [Rathbun and Mark Bunker reveal surprising ties]
In Germany with Ursula Caberta: [Announcing plans] | [Press conference] | [Making news about Tom Cruise, Bill Clinton, and Tony Blair] | [Post-trip interview]
The Squirrel Busters: [Goons with cameras on their heads] | [Rathbun's open letter to neighbors] | [Ingleside on the Bay, Texas rallies to Rathbun's cause] | [Squirrel Buster's claim to be making a "documentary"] | [VIDEO: "On a Boat"] | ["Anna" sent to creep out Monique Rathbun] | [Squirrel Busters go hillbilly] | [A videographer blows the whistle on the goon squad] | [Ed Bryan, OT VIII, shows the power of Scientology's highest levels]

SCIENTOLOGY SPYING AND "FAIR GAME"

[Secret Scientology documents spell out spying operation against Marc Headley]
[Scientology's West U.S. spies list revealed] | [Scientology's enemies list: Are you on it?]
Spy operation against Washington Post writer Richard Leiby: [Part 1] | [Part 2]
[A Scientology spy comes clean: Paulien Lombard's remarkable public confession]
[Scientology advertises for writers in Freedom magazine]
[Accidental leak shows Scientology spy wing plans to "handle" the Voice]
[Lori Hodgson and Disconnection: "No one's going to take my eternity away"]

SCIENTOLOGY AND CELEBRITIES

[Hey, Scientology Celebrity, Here's Your Media Training Checksheet!]
[Tom Cruise and X Factor's Stacy Francis singing together on the Freewinds]
[X Factor's Stacy Francis: Her first husband, Michael Sandlofer, answers abuse claims]
[Tom Cruise and Baby Suri embarrassed by news item, so someone must pay]
["Tom Cruise told me to talk to a bottle"] | [Tom Cruise likes coconut cake] | [Tom Cruise has a sense of humor] | ["Tom Cruise not a kook!"] | [Paulette Cooper on Tom Cruise]
[Paul Haggis, director of Crash, issues an ultimatum, leaves the church]
[Character actor Jason Beghe defects noisily] | [Actor Michael Fairman reveals his "suppressive person" declaration] | [Michael Fairman talks to the Voice]
[Giovanni Ribisi as David Koresh: Scientology-Branch Davidian link makes sense]
[Russell Brand weds ex-Scientologists in wild ceremony] | [Skip Press on Haggis]
[Placido Domingo Jr.: Scientology's retaliation is "scary and pathetic"]
Grant Cardone, NatGeo's "Turnaround King": [Doing Scientology's dirty work?] | [Milton Katselas complained about Cardone's smear job] | [Cardone runs to Huffpo]
[Philip Boyd, Saving Grace actor, rips "the business that is Scientology"]

JANET REITMAN'S INSIDE SCIENTOLOGY

[Our review of Inside Scientology] | [An interview with Janet Reitman] | [A report from Reitman's first book tour appearance] | [At the Half-King: Reitman not afraid]
[Scientology doesn't like Inside Scientology] | [Q&A at Washington Post]
[A roundup of Reitman's print reviews, and why isn't she on television more?]

HUGH URBAN'S THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY

[A review of Urban's scholarly history of the church] | [An interview with Hugh Urban]

EX-SCIENTOLOGISTS SPEAK OUT

["The Money Machine": another blockbuster St. Pete Times investigation]
[Marc Headley: "Tom Cruise told me to talk to a bottle"] | [The Nancy Many interview]
[Sympathy for the Devil: Tory Christman's Story] | [Jeff Hawkins' Counterfeit Dreams]
[86 Million Thin Dimes: The Lawrence Wollersheim Saga] | [Mike Rinder on spying]

OVERSEAS NEWS

[Scientology in Israel: Arson, attempted murder, paranoia -- and a visit by the Voice!]
[Scientology dodges a bullet in Australia] | [Scientology exec Jan Eastgate arrested]
[All hell breaks loose in Israel] | [Scientology sees fundraising gold in the UK riots]
[Aussie former rugby pro Chris Guider calls David Miscavige "toxic" and "violent"]
[Stephen Cox, UK church newbie, pledges 20K pounds] | [Biggi Reichert: A German Lisa McPherson?] | [The Birmingham trove: 7,000 internal e-mails]
[Australian farmer blamed for giving Tom Cruise a bad shrimp, loses her friends, family]

ODD VIDEOS AND ODDER NEWS

[Scientology chillin' with hip hop!] | [The curious career of Scientology rapper Chill EB]
[Chill EB and me: the Voice interviews Scientology's in-house rapper]
[Scientology singalong, "We Stand Tall"] | [Captain Bill Robertson and "Galactic Patrol"]
[Scientology wins a major award!] | [Scientology wants your money: Meet Dede!]
[Birmingham in the House! The "Ideal" dance mix] | [Scientology and the Nation of Islam]
[When Scientology was hip] | [Sad: David Miscavige makes fun of his own fundraisers]
[Freedom magazine parodies The New Yorker. Hilarity ensues.]
[Scientology surf report: Anonymous parties outside the New York "org"]

THE VIEW INSIDE THE BUBBLE

[A scientologist's letter to the Voice and its readers] | [Scientology silent birth]
[Tad Reeves: Scientology might listen to this guy] | [More Tad Reeves and family]
[Scientology never forgets: A heartwarming telemarketing holiday miracle]
[Desperate Scientology fundraising caught on video]



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redhead
redhead

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...  Here is a link to hana whitfield s account about R Hubbard, to those who still think Hubbards teachings are ok. She says it as as though Ron Hubbard is still alive

Fredric L. Rice
Fredric L. Rice

Those are not "real people" in the ads, they are Scientology customers who were ordered to pose for the photographs. People in Western nations with Internet access no longer purchase the crime syndicate's frauds and scams, they're not selling anything to Caucasians any more, they're having to sell their swindles to people elsewhere that have little to zero Internet.

Strelnikov
Strelnikov

So they are paying $20-a-head for crap they can get free at the Regional Occupational Program?

InTheNameOfXenu
InTheNameOfXenu

Scientology is clearing the planet.....one body thetan at a time.

Ivy Mapother
Ivy Mapother

A report on the results of the Jan Eastgate Defense Fund will probably be in the next issue of the Foundation. Tony, will that be in next week's Funnies?

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

* Block the exits.* Do not let them think it over.* When they give, make them give more.* If they don't give enough, threaten them.

$cientology, it's just one big party of "shut the fuck up and give us your money," or a "Knowledge Report" will be sent to you for insufficient generosity.

MarkStark
MarkStark

As inspiring as all this fundraising pageantry is, with "help" in the air around every Org, a book Gadfly of ESMB mentioned in a post, answers the question of why $cientology can never make the leap from fringe group to mass movement. I mean, aside from the Internet killing it.

The book is Hoffer's THE TRUE BELIEVER (1951)

Hubbard's (and Miscavige's) hatred for the evil psychs is not a coalescing scapegoat for large numbers of people. As many people as there are who might consider some of psychiatry to be useless, it is not the type of driving force that makes most people go all Tom Cruise crazy against it.

To make the psychiatrists the devil or enemy is laughable. A mass movement needs a strong scapegoat or demon at its center. Before the web, and the efforts of Tom Cruise, few people were aware that Hubbard's space cult was pitting itself against psychiatry, calling for its "obliteration."

Demonizing the "Evil Psychs," and destroying the psychiatric profession and their abuses has been a strength for David Miscavige to carry forward. But it works on only the in-group of true believers, and a few anti-psych people they pick up along the way through their front group CCHR. Uniting people under the idea of destroying psychiatry limits Scientology's potential for spread, especially since the methods of psychiatrists continue to improve and develop, while Sciloontology is fixed in its quirky 1950's state, complete with Hubbard's silly Xenu story, and Dianutty, the "modern science" of mental health.

redhead
redhead

The taller redhead is thinking , what on earth is this ,ive heard about you guys!  The smaller one is thinking , you got to be kidding me(with a smurk on her face)

omg
omg

wtf - more staff and execs in the bottom picture of melbourne than people who attended the party????

Jgg
Jgg

  I'm sure they will have just as much success in Chicago as they had here in Santa Monica, CA.

OTVIIIisGrrr8!
OTVIIIisGrrr8!

These events prove just how much darn fun Scientology can be when we or not suing or fair gaming bitter apostates. We in RTC invite VV readers to drop by an Ideal Org to see Scientology for themselves. We peradventure to say that fully 99% of people reading this blog have never actually stepped inside an Ideal Org to get their free personality test.

All we in RTC ask is that VV readers come in through a back door so that no one in your local community sees you entering; this because you are all known felons, fortune tellers, bookies, sex deviants and general layabouts in your towns. We don't want an upstat community member walking by and, upon seeing you enter the Org, say, "Hey! There is that guy I saw being arrested last week for shoplifting at the mall," or, "Say, isn't that fellow walking into the Scientology Ideal Org the same smelly derelict who bums change on First St. and Main?"

We also must kindly ask VV readers not to bring their crack cocaine, syringes, prostitutes, or dime bags into our Ideal Orgs, this to avoid tempting SO members that are recent Narconon completions.

On another note, we in RTC wish to announce that all Texas lawyers and judges have been declared SP's and are permanently banned from Scientology for all eternity. They may not receive any auditing in this solar system, galaxy, or universe at any time in the past, present, or future. Any certs they may have are revoked.

MarkStark
MarkStark

In the Albany Times Union, (or you can google news search Scientology, last 24 hours) there's an interesting video and article today on a Hubbard-like figure named Keith Raniere, founder of NXIVM (pronounced Nexium). It's about "self-discovery" and executive training. He's had over 12,000 take his class since 1998.

He got shut down for running a multilevel marketing scheme in the 1990's, but now has a cult following. On the clip they show him talking about how you can make a "100 million a month" if you follow his "technology" (methods). Instead of "Commodore" he goes by the title "Vanguard."

Unlike Hubbard, Raniere has a genuinely stratospheric IQ, one of the highest in the world (and in the Guinness Book), and completed a BS in Biology with a triple major at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, in Troy, NY, taking many PhD-level courses. He has patents to his name.

I mention him, and will probably read more about him, because it is only a matter of time before people turn to someone like him rather than Hubbard, because in spite of his problems (penchant for underage women, law suits from former followers), compared to Hubbard, he has more going for him. He's alive for one thing. It's also interesting to see what kind of problems a start-up Hubbard-like figure faces today.

MarkStark
MarkStark

"Find out how to attract pro-survival attention on line with real results."

Pro-survival ad: We are here to help.Anti-survival ad: We are here to get all your money.

Pro-survival ad: We have all the answers.Anti-survival ad: We're a mind control scam.

Scientology: It's not just about Xenu.

hgc
hgc

"The night started with Cheryl and Liz, Executive Director's for both the Day and Foundation orgs, ..."

Apostrophe abuse! That's not what I would call flawless, flubless. MU on aisle five. 

Duncan
Duncan

..."dinner was then served in the car park and accompanied by musical numbers qand very high tone levels..."  WTF?

Why is Scientology is kitsch?  Why can't they see how they look to everyone else and why do those poor kids have to be dragged into it?

I. M. Metaya
I. M. Metaya

For a couple of misspent grand and a week on our floating prison ship (just ignore the moans and cries from the below-decks), you can...BLOG about how your new favorite GOP candidate, Rick Sanscrotum, is really an okay guy!LEARN how to deftly spy on suspected church malcontents!COMPOSE viral emails to those that just don't agree with your way of life!And More!  

TRUTH
TRUTH

I wonder if Tony realizes that the "Alexandra" mentioned in the Freewinds promo is Alexandra Powers, an actress (L.A. Law, Last Man Standing w/ Bruce Willis) who was well on her way and then somehow decided to drop out and become a Sea Org member and is married to the Canadian Sea Org crook, Gavin Potter.

The Freewinds people are disgusting. They make psychological terrorists like Michael Doven and Fraser Kee Scott pale in comparison. The Freewinds people don't even bother regging the regular working stiffs. They don't waste their time. They chase after rich blood like you have never seen.

Potter has been in the game for years and years because he knows how to suck money off the stupid and wealthy like a fucking crack whore. Miscavige gave him Alexandra Powers to marry as a gift to keep him from constantly masturbating and fantasizing about young naked men. Since he spends more time with the well dressed young Sea Org guy who works alongside him than his wife, and he is known for not enjoying her company when being fired off on missions, and always requests the young man to tag along instead (as you know, Sea Org members share hotel rooms when traveling), we can assume that Miscavige hasn't yet been able to cure him of his sexual aberrations.

Aoxomoxoa410
Aoxomoxoa410

At first look I thought the 'hilarious fashion catwalk' photo was actually the roll out for a new 'hole'-dwellers uniform designed to help mitigate the ant problem.    

John P.
John P.

The best laughs from these things always seem to come from the fine print in the ads/articles.  

This week, my favorite line came from the Melbourne celebration write-up: "Dinner was then served in the car park, and accompanied by live musical numbers and very high tone levels."  

Let me see if I understand this:  you have an immense building of perhaps 60,000 square feet that sits virtually empty, and yet your ability to host a party with 100 people (the most milquetoast  of the members, who couldn't sell the staff on even the lamest excuse, like "my mother in law is having an emergency gallbladder transplant so I can't make it that evening") is so limited that you have to put folding tables up in the parking garage to serve dinner?  

While I'm hardly a snob, I don't think I would feel exactly "up tone" if I had worked so hard to donate tons of money to an "Idle Org" and then find out that the Church expresses its gratitude (at an event I had to pay to attend) by serving me dinner in a converted parking structure before it started to "reg" me for hours to empty my wallet of even more money to do something about the crappy dinner seating arrangements.  

GraceD
GraceD

The guy handing out the cards to the redheads is dressed terribly. His sleeve are too short and his collar is too big.  That tie is atrocious, and with the handkerchief he looks like a mortician.

That said, it would match nicely with a black cape, with silver lining.  Let's see.... where have I seen a scientology cape, hmmm.

PickAnotherID
PickAnotherID

Why are they using a picture of Melb Anon's ceak in their flyer?

Did the prop department take the plastic one back when the check bounced??

Quarkfire
Quarkfire

"A personal letter written from COB himself to the Melbourne Org...if you weren't at the event then unfortunately you missed out on what he had to say to us."

Dear Melbourne Org--

You Suck Cock On Swanston Street.

ML, DM

koki raki
koki raki

lolbig hello from LRHs Bulgravia...

Mimi Armagh Parrow
Mimi Armagh Parrow

Just seeing the "Midwest Ideal Org Alliance" makes me want to pee a little *and* throw up in my mouth....just a little bit.

grundoon
grundoon

You won't actually learn anything about blogs, podcasts, social media and email spamming at the $20 Maximize Comm Lines of the World ecclesiastical workshop.

Instead you'll be regged to attend the new internet marketing course on board the Freewinds. Since the Freewinds no longer delivers Scientology training or processing sufficient to cover its operating expenses, they have been promoting courses like this one to pull in the rubes. Tom, Lorin, and the renowned Mr. Potter no doubt will pocket FSM commissions and bonuses for every dentist and chiropractor they sign up. Ka-ching!

Marc Abian
Marc Abian

Curse you, Tony Ortega!! Here I was, enjoying a lazy Sunday morning, and then you make me - wish I could fast forward to Monday morning?! What kind of cruelty is that? Anyway, I'm just going to try and pretend whatever you're working on is no big deal and I won't be salivating over whatever juicy exposé you're cooking up - oh, who am I kidding?

Kate Bornstein
Kate Bornstein

I was struck by Melbourne's hilarious fashion runway hosted by the "fabulous" blah blah blah. I wince when I see "fabulous" in quotes like that—I bet my hard cold dollars that it was a rollicking skit just chock-full of homophobia. Damn. How would a reformed Church of Scientology reverse *that* along with cancelling fair game and disconnection?

Remy
Remy

On the Melbourne advertisement, what is the sinister "Executive Business Owner Meeting" that  occurs every Tuesday evening?

Is that an extra "church" service only available to high net-worth individuals?  

Maybe that's why they don't really have church services on Sunday.... they are saving it for Tuesday night when the rich people stop by.

Wasthere
Wasthere

Ah yes. BBQs, picnics, dropping off the kids to do a little light shopping and long chats about anything under the sun. The word 'buy' rarely used. When used it was in reference to a car, house or....hey, I just bought my training levels. But that wasin a time when helping people was considered laudable.

Chuck Beatty
Chuck Beatty

Thanks for sharing the latest dissemination promotion writings and ads from Scientology.   

Made me think of a real technical point about one "course" that Hubbard wished delivered in churches, it's the "Life Orientation Course".

On the Life Orientation Course (LOC), one of the apprenticeship drills is doing the Hubbard condition formulas on each one of the "departments in your life", and one of those 21 departments is "Source", yourself as Source of your own life and your own creations.

The LOC course hasn't been pushed by the church in two decades, but were it,and were the followers, technically, pushed to faithfully achieve Power on their individual departments of their own lives, that is one major example of how Scienotology ought reform itself OUT of this Miscavige dictator and everyone being in fawning awe of him era.

This, IS a valid criticism of the last 20 years trend.   Were the movement to focus BACK on getting their members each really succeeding, and NOT kissing up to Miscavige.

Hubbard did NOT want a Miscavige glorious leader.   Hubbard more wanted what Heber Jentzsch was trying to display, which is have the President of the Church of Scientology, which Heber was,be the spokesperson.

Hubbard wanted LOC grads who became each their own "Source" of their own lives, technically, and NOT being turned into ass kissing sychophants of Miscavige.  

skippress
skippress

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O. Lallieberry
O. Lallieberry

The exquisite glass sculpture gift from COB to the Aussies, the banquet of the finest desserts and chocolates in Australia, and the $100 bonus of "cold hard dollars" to people routing in new customers, does not sound very religious.

Schockenawd
Schockenawd

Wait - Melbourne has a ladder to spiritual freedom?  That sounds way cheaper than a bridge.  No wonder they're so excited.  They probably just need funding for one or two more rungs, and then they'll be all done!

MarkStark
MarkStark

 If there was one story the major media dropped the ball on, it was THE MONEY MACHINE by Childs and Tobin. There should have been a TV special, featuring Hy, Synthia, Brian, Louis etc. with reenactments of the outrageous variety of ways the cult traps people and coerces them into giving money and taking out loans.

The problem with exposing Scientology to the general public is that it is such a broad topic, and yet there is one thread that is woven through the entire operation and that is their relentless greed; the unique and high pressured ways they have of extracting money from members.

There's been dozens of movies that have shown the way the mafia shakes down and coerces people out of money, running protection rackets and threatening people who don't pay up. Scientology runs their cult-like version of that.

Synthia Elizabeth Fagen
Synthia Elizabeth Fagen

That Chicago promo, of course, is a complete farce and NEVER happens. How many ways can they act out "delusion"?

Duncan
Duncan

SO kitschAND, not 'quand'I lose it - and the ability to spell - when I see children involved

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

On my cell, because the picture is so small the outfits look like garbage bags. Are they garbage bags? Seriously, not kidding!

sketto
sketto

Well said. Personally, I always react to the very sad idea that there are people in this world who measure their lives and emotions in arbitrary tone levels invented by a dead science fiction writer. 

GraceD
GraceD

Oh here, I found the scientology "ideal org" cape:

http://gawker . com/5330967/scientologys-creepy-new-uniforms

Marcus
Marcus

It's well known the Chicago org sits empty.  But there are good crowds of protesters outside sometimes!

sketto
sketto

What Hubbard wanted most of all was to feed his own delusions. It is not fully clear in his works what his complete vision for Scientology was after he was gone. Worse though, is that Hubbard built a system in which someone like Miscavige would flourish. Despite the true believers' claims otherwise, Miscavige is actually the inevitable result of following the rest of Hubbard's worst policies to the letter and he is not, as is so often erroneously stated, an anomaly. Miscavige is the unchecked weed that was destined to grow from Hubbard's shit.

Few Scientologists can offer a clear vision as to how a different leader, with the same foundation of Hubbard's tech as source, would have a different result. After all, hasn't this happened directly following Hubbard's departure? Why should we think that there is yet one more course or lecture of Hubbard's that somehow could have addressed the Miscavige problem that the rest of his immense output didn't? The current group of Scientology is a very predictable result of Hubbard-inspired living. The reluctance of many otherwise rational Scientologists to openly and completely reject disconnection, fair game and the RPF provides evidence that Miscavige is the biggest tumor, but Hubbard's creation is the source cancer. Yes, there are random things we can cherry-pick from Hubbard's work that we could claim "show" what Hubbard really wanted, but it is clear that Hubbard was incapable of creating a system that could resist an evil force like Miscavige, thus raising the question of what good his tech is if it can so easily be subverted. Additionally, the overall effect of Hubbard's entire work, system, tech, teachings, ramblings, books, videos, and unverified "research" etc. shows that what Hubbard wanted to protect most of all was Scientology itself and not the humans within it. With a starting point like that, all it takes is an asshole bully like Miscavige to take the reins and start removing people's rights and self-respect along with their savings, all in the name of KSW. 

We'd be giving Hubbard a lot more credit than he deserves if we pretend that the Life Orientation Course could have somehow done something that the rest of his tech clearly couldn't - prevent Miscavige's ascendency. 

MarkStark
MarkStark

To me, Miscavige constantly drools over LRH with subservience. Even when he was reading letters in praise of himself for being the "best example" of a true Scilon, it was like he meant he was the most devoted to LRH and the cause.

I realize to the higher executives, who are near him, he's a holy terror. And I understand that people are being regged too much, and may be catching on. But many of them probably feel that Miscavige does that only to fulfill Ron's wishes. (Miscavige feels the need to update the "simple buildings" idea, because the celebs and the high rollers love it.)

Getting members to "succeed" at what Chuck? The focus was always on stringing them along for as long as possible and keeping them buying into it. Ron didn't want to let people go, to use Scientology in their real lives apart from constantly being tethered to going higher or doing more for the cult.

I really don't see that the focus is on worshiping Miscavige at all. Some members may feel the NEED to do just that because Ron is deader than a doornail and not coming back.

When Hubbard croaked, for every member who was suspicious of Miscavige or unhappy with his leadership, there were at least five who were praising Xenu that a strong, confident leader was taking over, so they could finish their bridge and keep the scam going.

You've heard Broeker at the Death Event. If the cult had been stuck with him and Annie, it would have fallen apart, or been torn apart by a power struggle. A cult needs a dictator.

Jonathon Barbera
Jonathon Barbera

Chuck, the international statistics began plummeting immediately after the release of the Key to Life and the Life Orientations Course in 1990. Is it possible these two courses were improperly delivered by the church or designed differently than LRH intended?

Schockenawd
Schockenawd

Problem was, too many people were not satisfactorily completing the LOC.  And that led to the inevitable Life Orientation Course Overboarding drill (LOCO).

Kate Bornstein
Kate Bornstein

And Hubbard would have sh*t when he saw them bribing public with cold, hard cash to complete services. To him, that was the wrong direction for cold, hard cash to travel.

Fredric L. Rice
Fredric L. Rice

 Hi, Tom, hi Lorin !

It's great that you're working in community involvement, what the world needs moreof is wider community activism fighting organized crime, making sure everyonerecognizes frauds, scams, crooks, and liars out there among us rooking and swindlingthe rubes, marks, and suckers from their money while selling the stupids "freedom"and no end of bullshit lies.

Then of course they're invisible murdered space aliens called Body Thetans beingsold by *one* organized crime syndicate which then sells "auditing" with Ohm metersto scrape 'em off, all for a buck! Or a few hundred thousands.

Thanks again for your awesome work.

Tye Solaris
Tye Solaris

Bridges are too expensive in Australia...

But Ladders?

Everyone can afford those!

MarkStark
MarkStark

Maybe their bridge collapsed, from the flood of donations or more likely a mud slide or something. Had to put a ladder in to reach Xenu.

LeeAnneClark
LeeAnneClark

Or is it possible that the entire Scientology theology is a bullshit house of cards created by a paranoid, drug-addled madman (and writer of bad science fiction) involving batshit-crazy stories of billions of aliens being blow to smithereens by H-bombs in volcanoes 75 million years ago, who now cling to us like parasites?

Tye Solaris
Tye Solaris

I recently read a post from someone with signature of OTB.(outside the box) named Knowing L. Ron Hubbard ... it was a letter actually...this person said they worked with Ron in the beginning for Ten Years and this person said roughly the equivalent of ;  Ron never really cared about the money... he was sincerely interested in helping people... 

What do you make of that...

The post was on the Steve Hall website

Schockenawd
Schockenawd

Yeah.  I wonder if they try to get you to buy 3,200 ladders, even though you already have 612.

Pretty Little Robot
Pretty Little Robot

Maybe they prefer ladders because ladders are (quite literally) "straight up and vertical!"

Tye Solaris
Tye Solaris

Of Course!

If you really, really care about saving humanity, you should buy at least that many and donate them schools and fire departments...;)

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