Scientology's Concentration Camp: Where Can Miscavige Put "The Hole" Now?

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The two squarish, squat buildings that housed "The Hole" at Scientology's "Int Base" in California
As we wait for the next development in the Church of Scientology's lawsuit against its former employee, Debbie Cook, we continue to think about something the church told ABC for its recent Nightline story on the case...

"In a letter to ABC News, a lawyer for the Church of Scientology flat out denies that the 'hole' exists, or that there was ever a place known as the hole'."

When this line was uttered during the Nightline program, an image of a letter was shown which indicated that it had come from church attorney Gary Soter.

Soter's second claim is some kind of semantic gamesmanship: at least half a dozen former Scientologists have come forward to speak publicly about -- or, in Debbie Cook's case, testify under oath to -- the existence of "the Hole," a frightening office-prison where 60 to 100 out-of-favor church executives were held day and night under guard, from at least 2004 to 2010.

Soter's first claim is more interesting. If "the Hole" no longer exists, we've been wondering where else such a large number of prisoners could be held at "Int Base," Scientology's 700-acre compound near Hemet, about 90 miles east of Los Angeles.

A few days ago, I heard from Gary Morehead -- his fellow former Scientologists tend to call him "Jackson," his codename when he was security chief at Int Base until 1997. Although it's been 15 years since he worked there, things change slowly at the base, and he's still very familiar with its grounds. So something new suddenly showing up there recently, he said, had him very curious.

He was talking about a visit made a couple of weeks ago by Jim Logan and Sinar Parman, two former base workers who returned to it for an emotional paying of respects to Ann Tidman.

We wrote about the death of Tidman, better known as "Annie Broeker" to Scientologists. She and Logan had been married, but were separated in 1992 when Logan was excommunicated from the church. She remained in the fold -- after, that is, attempting a daring cross-country escape to be reunited with him. She died last year of cancer, but it took six months before her sisters or the outside world knew of it. She had, to the end, remained loyal to Scientology and kept news of her disease from anyone outside the base.

In a lengthy, emotional piece of writing, Logan described his feelings as he made his return to the base for the first time in almost 20 years to pay his respects to Ann. He knew that he'd be turned away at the gate by the Sea Org members working there. But he went anyway.

Along with him was Parman, a man who was once L. Ron Hubbard's personal chef, and has his own dramatic tale of leaving Scientology.

It was Parman who told Morehead that he'd seen something unusual at the base: out by the Old Gilman House, there was some new fencing, about a hundred feet back of the actual perimeter fence of the base itself, and it featured some kind of webbing -- like at a tennis court -- to block the view of whatever was behind it.

Morehead conveyed the news to me, saying that the fence seemed significant, especially with the material to block the view from the roadway. Could it have something to do with church leader David Miscavige relocating the prisoners of "the Hole" now that the jig was up?

Over the next few hours, I talked at length with Morehead, Parman, and the last defector to come out of the base, John Brousseau, who left in 2010. In that conversation, I learned a lot about the base, and I also learned that Sinar Parman had some never-before-seen photos of the base taken in September from a helicopter, and that he was willing to share them with our readers.

Parman had taken the photos while he was along with Mark Bunker, who hired the helicopter to take footage for his upcoming documentary, Knowledge Report.

Because he took detailed photos of the base in September, Parman realized that the fence he saw a couple of weeks ago was new.

First, before we look at Parman's photos and examine the different places where Miscavige could move the current residents of the Hole, let's orient ourselves (click on images to enlarge them).

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Scientology's International Base lies about 90 miles east of Los Angeles and near the towns of Hemet and San Jacinto. (This map also shows the location of another of Scientology's secretive headquarters, for the Church of Spiritual Technology, near Lake Arrowhead, which we wrote about last month.) Int Base's location is a place called Gilman Hot Springs on some maps, the name of the small resort that the church purchased in 1978. Its address is 19625 Gilman Springs Road...

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Int Base straddles Gilman Springs Road, and two tunnels were built at great expense so its employees could travel from one side to the other without having to deal with the road's fast traffic (or expose themselves to the prying eyes of protesters). Here's a satellite overview of the compound, showing structures on both sides of the highway...

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Now, let's go to the north end of the property and zoom in...

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The dirt road cutting across the top of the photo is the original old canyon road here, Morehead tells me. The larger of the two blue-roofed buildings, the one on the right, is the Old Gilman House, positioned to serve the traffic on the old road. Now, let's get down closer.

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Morehead said he was intrigued about the fencing that Parman saw because this area -- the Old Gilman House and other structures near it -- were used for holding prisoners before the Hole came into being. Could it be used for that again? The two of us went over the structures we could see in the satellite image: A) The Old Gilman House. "It was the original place for 'ethics particles'," Morehead told me. "That's where they would be held...Every room has cameras and audiovisual. Six to eight rooms upstairs, and five to eight rooms downstairs, and they all have cameras in them -- and that was back in 1997," he says. B) The Weise House. "Gary Weise was the head film and video editor. Carmen and Gary were with Hubbard out in 'W,' before everyone came to the base," he says. C) "The Maintenance Man House." If a large number of prisoners were to be held in this area, the Maintenance Man House would provide the shower. "There was a shower and a bathroom built specifically for the ethics particles. It was built there at my direction. There was a shower and a sink," he says. Security personnel, he adds, were trained to move a lot of people through the shower if it was needed.

D&E) Two trailers that housed sensitive high-level materials for spiritual training. You wanted to do the upper levels? You had to come here, where the materials were kept under lock and key, Morehead says.

F&G) These two trailers housed base workers who were undergoing some kind of punishment. "We'd say they were 'restricted to base'," Morehead says. One was for men, the other for women -- and Maureen Bolstad was one of the women kept here.

H&I) "These trailers were originally put there as isolation units, so the medical officer could put someone there who was sick and not get everyone else sick," Morehead says. Later, these trailers would house some high-level executives who had fallen out of favor with Miscavige, including his own sister-in-law.

J, K & M) These are containers, used for storage.

L) Morehead and Parman say this was a greenhouse but is mostly used for landscaping storage now.

N) In the upper left, you can make out what looks like a boat sitting between some trees. Morehead and Brousseau say that this is an old Sea Org vessel that is obviously not sailing anywhere anytime soon.

Parman says the new fencing is on the west side of the Maintenance Man Building, and he saw what looks like new containers behind it. But John Brousseau disagreed with Morehead that a new version of "the Hole" might be under construction here.

"That's got to be the most vulnerable part of the base," Brousseau told me. They wouldn't put anything like that out there. Maybe they're going to bulldoze the Old Gilman House. Miscavige has been talking about that for years. There was a plan to build a warehouse out there. I don't know. It's always been the sort of undeveloped corner, where either stuff or staff would get put. It's just the wrong place to do something salacious and secret. Especially with the scrutiny the base is getting now? No way."

Brousseau says that his own experience in 2009 tells him that Miscavige won't construct a new office-prison to replace his last one. At that time, he explains, there was panic at the base because of the St. Petersburg Times explosive series, "The Truth Rundown," which first revealed the existence of the Hole in a major newspaper. CNN later picked up some of that material for a series by Anderson Cooper.

Brousseau says Miscavige reacted by moving some of the executives out of the Hole and back into more normal surroundings. "They were still segregated, they still had security on them," Brousseau says. But at least they were out of the Hole itself.

Broussau assumes that Miscavige will do something similar this time, and will find a way to integrate the prisoners back into base routine, but still keep them under tight security. I asked him where that might be.

"There's so much empty space on that base, those people could have got stuck wherever," he says.

Morehead, after hearing Brousseau's opinion, said he had to agree. "And the reason he has so much space, when I was there we had a staff of 800 people. Now, I think they're down to about 200," he says.

So where might the ethics particles of exec strata -- sorry, in non-Scientology lingo that's "political prisoners of the upper executive ranks" -- be held? That's where Parman's photos come in handy. They give some excellent views of the base which he took in September from a helicopter, some with his annotations...

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Here's a wide shot with the buildings of the Hole in the center, the highway right behind, looking south. It's still shocking to think what happened in those two low, squarish buildings for the past eight years. Debbie Cook, now being sued by the church for daring to send out an e-mail to her fellow church members complaining about the way Scientology is being led, was traumatized after spending only seven weeks locked up in the Hole. She and Mike Rinder say there was nowhere to sleep but on the floor. They were fed a disgusting slop for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Each day they were subjected to hours of mass confessions, pitting them against longtime friends to see who could get each other admit to awful "crimes" against their dear leader, Miscavige. Cook testified that she saw one executive beaten and then forced to lick a bathroom floor for half an hour. For years such treatment went on, there just steps away from a public highway.

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Here's a view looking east that Parman has annotated. ("I could have used a better color, I guess," he says, but I told him he did a fine job with a lot of information. Make sure you click to get the expanded view.) The two buildings of the Hole are to the right of center.

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This is from the same large-scale shot, looking farther east from the previous image. It includes Bonnie View, the large home that awaits L. Ron Hubbard's future return, the RTC building -- a massive office that former Scientologists say is virtually unused -- and, to the right, the three "Villas," the farthest of which -- the "Upper Villa" -- is used by Miscavige when he's staying on the base.

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Now on the south side of Gilman Springs Road and still looking east, in the foreground is the large building known as "the Garage." it contains the showers that prisoners of the Hole would use each morning after being rousted out and marched through a tunnel under the road, which you can also see marked in this photo. The large building in the center is known as "MCI" -- for Massacre Canyon Inn, the dining facilities for the base -- and Parman has noted where, on the right side of the building, Miscavige had a special setup made for his "captain's table" so that he could dine with a fine view (but then almost never used it).

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Still on the south side of the road, with the "Villas" on the other side. Parman has noted where Tom Cruise is set down when he visits by helicopter, and the large buildings in the center that snake slightly around a central road are "berthing" -- large numbers of apartments for crew.

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A magnificent view that shows the buildings of the Hole at the top, and at right the tunnel under the highway where prisoners were marched in the morning to take their showers (in the building at the extreme left), the only time of the day they were allowed outside. In the foreground, the MCI building, and a better view of the south-facing windows where Miscavige could look out from his "captain's table." To the left, you can make out the motorcycle parking lot that he would use.

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The north end of the property, with the Old Gilman House and the Maintenance Man House, and between them, the Weise House. Behind them, the various trailers and containers that are apparently now going under some kind of new fenced-in project that is being hidden from the highway.

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Parman's impressive shot of the RTC Building, Miscavige's grand office complex that, Brousseau says, is virtually empty. Note the carefully manicured oval lawn behind it with the low waterfall.

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We're down at the southeastern end of the property here, looking back northwest -- the highway is on the right, and Parman says he just had to annotate the meadow that was, famously, in 1990 planted with wildflowers over the course of a single night by madly scrambling Sea Org members, trying to get it ready in time for Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman to run through after Cruise had said it was something the two of them dreamed of.

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A clear shot at Bonnie View, the large house waiting for Hubbard's return, and on the right, the RTC building. The blue-roofed building the foreground on the right, closest to the RTC building contains Miscavige's laundry facilities. The building to the left of that is his "Upper Villa."

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Another view of all three Villas. Starting from the right, they are the "Lower Villa," where some of Miscavige's personal staff stay; the "Middle Villa," where Tom Cruise stays when he stops by; and the "Upper Villa," Miscavige's home.

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A final image from Parman's photos, this one centered on "Berthing," and looking west. Some former Scientologists are hearing that Berthing is the most likely current location of the executives who were in the Hole -- there's lots of room in the apartments with staffing levels so low, and it's a lot easier to hold prisoners in apartments with showers and bathrooms than in a grubby office. We'll keep an ear out for any further reports of where they might be.

We'll finish with a few final shots from satellite images...

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The island in the lake south of the MCI building that is used for "overboarding." As much as possible, Sea Org members try to carry on customs put in place by L. Ron Hubbard when the SO was, actually, at sea. One of the methods of discipline that Hubbard installed was literally throwing a person overboard and keelhauling them. Today, Sea Org members make do by having members of the Rehabilitation Project Force prison detail or prisoners in the Hole jump into the lake on the property. One of the ironies of the Debbie Cook case is that before she was victimized as a prisoner in the Hole, she had been one of executives who would march down the detainees and have them plunge in, including former chief spokesman Mike Rinder.

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The infamous Running Track is no more, but its remnant can still be seen from space. This circular patch of weeds was once a sand pit encircling a lone palm tree. Members of the RPF were forced to run around the tree in the sand for hours at a time. People who experienced it describe it as a form of torture, and it was all they could do to remain conscious as they trotted through the sand in the intense desert sun. When too much attention to the Running Program got out through defectors, the track was suddenly made to go away.

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We'll finish with one of the oldest and strangest structures put in place by Scientology after purchasing the compound in 1978. It's a three-masted building with a prow and a pool, known as the Star of California. It was supposed to remind Hubbard of being at sea, we suppose, and it's used today for PR.

We'll turn it over now to our commenters, who bring an amazing depth of knowledge on the subject. Class, if you were David Miscavige, where would you stuff Yager, Jentzsch, Lesevre, and the rest to keep them out of sight? Berthing? The RTC Building? The Old Gilman House? Keep in mind, one of the things that kept the Hole in business so long was not only that it could house these disfavored executives in degrading conditions, but it was convenient enough that Miscavige could pop over at a moment's notice to hear what had been spilled in the latest mass confession. Does the place you favor give him that kind of easy access? We're looking forward to your conclusions.



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Tony Ortega has been the editor in chief of the Village Voice since March, 2007. He started writing about Scientology in 1995. You can reach him by e-mail at tortega@villagevoice.com, and if you ask nicely he'll put you on his mailing list for notifications of new stories, which tend to come out each and every morning at 8 am, but can suddenly appear at any time of the day. You can also catch his alerts at Twitter (@VoiceTonyO), at his Facebook author page, on Pinterest, a Tumblr, and even this new Google Plus doohickey.

New readers might want to check out our primer, "What is Scientology?" Another good overview is our series from last summer, "Top 25 People Crippling Scientology." At the top of every story, you'll see the "Scientology" category which, if you click on it, will bring up all of our most recent stories. As for our regular features, on Thursdays we do a roundup of world press, on Fridays we visit L. Ron Hubbard on the yacht Apollo circa 1969-1971, on Saturdays we celebrate the week's best comments, and on Sundays we publish Scientology's wacky and tacky advertising mailers that people send us.

As for hot subjects we've covered here, you may have heard about Debbie Cook, the former church official who rebelled and is now being sued by Scientology. You might have also heard about the Super Power Building, Scientology's "Mecca," whose secrets were revealed here. We also reported how Scientology spied on its own most precious object, Tom Cruise. (We wrote Tom an open letter that he has yet to respond to.) Have you seen a Scientology ad on TV lately? We debunked some of the claims in that 2-minute commercial you might have seen while watching Glee or American Idol.

Other stories have looked at Scientology's policy of "disconnection" that is tearing families apart. You may also have heard something about the Sea Org experiences of the Paris sisters, Valeska and Melissa, and their friend Ramana Dienes-Browning. We've also featured Paulette Cooper, who wrote about Scientology back in the day, and Janet Reitman, Hugh Urban, and the team at the Tampa Bay Times, who write about it today. And there's plenty more coming.



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sjca33
sjca33

I live in San Jacinto - I see Gold Base straight across the valley from my bedroom window.  It's true, you can drive down Gilman Springs Road and never know any of this abuse was going on - to the outside world, it just looks like a "fancy compound" of sorts.  Sad, very sad...

Payton_vege
Payton_vege

Amazing write-up! This could aid plenty of people find out more about this particular issue. Are you keen to integrate video clips coupled with these? It would absolutely help out. Your conclusion was spot on and thanks to you; I probably won’t have to describe everything to my pals. I can simply direct them here!

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

Well, I see David Miscavige's shill Jim Lynch impersonating a reporter for Freedumb magazine was at Village Voice Media.What a slimeball! David Miscavige is probably jumping up and down like a toddler clapping his hands full of excitement yelling, 'Take that Tony Ortega.'

Smells like OSA orchestrated Hubbards "Positioning Technology" on Village Voice. Which is to position the Village Voice to something evil, and thru their "Survey Technology," the evil chosen is the "Backpage" ads. The idea is to do anything to stop reporter TonyO and Village Voice Media from printing anymore negative stories about them.

Hope Tony has a ace up his sleeve? Can't wait. We love ya Tony!

DodoTheLaser
DodoTheLaser

I just hope no one got abused in any way or shot to death on Apollo,because it would be so entheta, even if true.

Even if abuses were ordered by LRH himself. Or MSH. Gasp!

Because "it's a tough universe and only tigers survive". Right, my Indie friends?!

I will shut up now. Google and Tony is your friend. And you are your best friend.

Do not neglect yourself.

DodoTheLaser
DodoTheLaser

Dead Wednesday, no Thursday stats. Shit. Friday is better be good, Tony.

Just being a smart ass, sort of. Love you brother. Get some good rest.

And then deliver a fucking nuke of truth. I will try to get some sleep now.

Thank you either way, Tony. 

P.S. "The Master" movie "that is not about Scientology" comes out on October 12th, peeps. It's going to be a hoot!

DMSTCC
DMSTCC

Off topic interesting tweet:

   "a woman just walked in wearing a 'church of scientology' windbreaker vest..."

From:  Kylie Liddell  @KylieLiddell

I work as a model in BDSM porn. I am polyamorous & currently in a D/s relationship as the submissive. Oh and starting SlaveGirlAcademy.Kom!Sacramento, California...

DMSTCC
DMSTCC

Off topic interesting tweet:

    "a woman just walked in wearing a 'church of scientology' windbreaker vest..." 

From:

Kylie Liddell  @KylieLiddell

I work as a model in BDSM porn. I am polyamorous & currently in a D/s relationship as the submissive. Oh and starting SlaveGirlAcademy.com!Sacramento, California...

N. Graham
N. Graham

Since Tony's out today, here are the Thursday stats;Hubbard Sci-Fi awards publicized, some good clueless publicity:http://blogs.artinfo.KOM/artintheair/2012/03/29/founder-of-scientology-l-ron-hubbard-created-a-sci-fi-art-competition/ (change KOM to com)Upstat.Russians bans Scio books:http://www.tol.URG/client/article/23060-russian-courts-say-yes-to-krishna-no-to-l-ron-hubbard-nazi-era-chetnik-general-gets-a-rehearing.html (change URG to org)  Downstat.Scio Volunteer Ministers Welcomed by Tribal Leadershttp://www.timesunion.GOM/business/press-releases/article/Scientology-Volunteer-Ministers-Welcomed-by-3431153.php  (replace GOM with com)UpstatTony takes a few days off from the underground bunker.Definitely upstat (for scio).Hmmm, we'll just combine it with next week's stats and wait down in the RPF til then.  Just as well, I think I might have accidently read some high level materials and might be coming down with something.  

Alistair
Alistair

DM can put the RPFers anywhere; despite all the reports of abuse, law enforcement isn't going to go in and investigate.  Sad but true.

hgc
hgc

I am super disappointed that Tony went on vacation without leaving this week's dispatches from the Good Ship Lollipop ready to be posted on his behalf. How can I make it through my Friday? 

Xenu's advocate
Xenu's advocate

Since Tony is on vacation for a couple of days, is anyone up for playing a game and having our own topic of discussion today?  I was thinking we might talk about the connection between LRHs late sci-fi, scientology, and the way in which those works reflected his mindset and/or scientology doctrine. To get things rolling, on the advice of one of the commenters on the day we were talking about Battlefield Earth I went to Battlefield Spork. When there, I came across this passage which I find rather ironic given the look of 'ideal orgs':

"It was only then that Jonnie found that "modern" had been a type of architecture prevalent on Earth about eleven hundred years ago; that it consisted of plain, straight up-and-down walls on a rectangular base; that it often was a vast expanse of glass windows; that it had been conceived by somebody dedicated to stamping out all indigenous architecture of an area. In short, modern was an architecture that wasn't architecture, but just a cheap way to throw rubbish in the air and get paid for it."

As to the connection between Battlefield earth, the obvious stuff is anti-psychiatry diatribe, i.e.,the 'Catrists' give the psychlo population implants/brain surgery in order to turn the population violent and suppressive. Any more detailed analysis of particular plot-points or parallels?

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

The "Hole" doesn't exist because it was renamed The "Hooch,"... people have been in so long they are starting to ferment like pruno.

Llama
Llama

I think I'm suffering from Antonium Tremens.

Dean Fox
Dean Fox

Not to belittle you comment re LRH overboarding, because as I understand it he did although he usually (always?) Picked them up afterwards with them being so grateful for LRH safeing their lives.

Keelhauling was however the practise of dragging some from starboard to port side under the ship by rope. Not only did the person risk drowning but the barnical encrusted keel would ripped them to shreds.

It's a bit like the account of Debbie being stood in a trash can with as ign declaring herself as a lesbian around her neck and having cold water poured over her. This is terrible but it is not water boarding.

Dean Fox
Dean Fox

The denial of "the hole" is easy to make because the name is a colloquialism and as such a subjective term; it was never officially recognised as "the hole" so it doesn't officially exist.

To force them to lie you would have to show the photo of "the hole" and ask a series of very precise question such as:

Were people placed in this building and were people placed at the door to pursued them not to leave and did same people occupy said building as a place to work, eat and sleep for more than 18 hours a day?

How many hours of a day were said occupants allowed to wander freely outside the building during a day?

What was the maximum number of people occupied the building at any one time under the conditions described a above?

How long did the maximum number of people occupy said buildings in said conditions?

Brainslugged
Brainslugged

Considering TO didn't make DM cry on either Wednesday or Thursday, I'd say this is their most upstat week of the year by far.

TonyOrtega
TonyOrtega

Relax, it's only Thursday. We have a big, fun story tomorrow, and no one said the Apollo won't be at least a small part of it. Just hang in there!

bobx
bobx

I've been reading the summary of BE at the Battlefield Spork site (no way would I attempt to read the book itself), and was struck by this paragraph:

"In a room labeled "Top Secret" they find mention of "TNWs" and "silos." The former is understood to stand for Tactical Nuclear Weapons, and Thor the Half-Swede (I think) explains that the latter are used to store wheat, though he can't fathom why a military base would be interested in them. Jonnie, who knows what rockets are, can't make the connection, but luckily the historian habitually carries a dictionary (!) and points out that the word is also used to refer to the storage facilities for ballistic missiles. Jonnie excitedly realizes they may have found their uranium!"

Yes, even in the dystopian future, word-clearing tech will save us from MU's!  Good thing Jonnie Goodboy didn't just keep going past the word he didn't get!

Jonathan Hendry
Jonathan Hendry

I've been thinking lately that if LRH was alive today, he'd be furious that his fellow pulp scribe H. P. Lovecraft has become something of a pop culture fixture, while Hubbard is a bad joke. You can get a plush Cthulhu, but not a plush Terl. 

just curious
just curious

 I'll play.... Here it is boys and girls, the game everyone has been waiting for:(rolling thunder pronunciation required)  CORPORATE   SCIENTOPOLY  !! The game where you win, when you end up completely mindless, having no money.  Let’s play.  First player,Roll the dice and move forward.Uh oh, this landed you on the square of ‘required to attend a Scientology event’.Pretty scary.  You’re nervous.  You’re thinking, “oh, crap”.  It could be you that the focus is on, for the ‘squeeze for money’ tactic.But, you sit in the back, wearing your bright blue super hero tights and cape, trying to be invisible. It worked.You manage to sneak out a side door and leave (cape flapping as you run), with your money still in your hand.  Whew!First player made it through that one. Next player:Roll the dice and move forward.Oh no, this puts you on the square of the IAS regges’s office.(and there are four regges)You are held for five hours there.You’re hammered into handing over most all of your money.You feel like screaming, but don’t dare.But wait….you have a ‘feel important’ card.  Use it!You use the card, and you are given rousing applause, a small pin to wear and echoing shouts of joy.Now you’re feeling it!(you have almost no money to your name, but you’re feeling pretty good about itand notice that your chest is all puffed out)You are also given your special t-shirt screen printed with:I used to get lost in the shuffle, now I just shuffle along with the lost.Or the most requested special t-shirt screen printed with:WattaGooSiam(which when read over and over, faster and faster, reveals your secret message) Next player:Roll the dice and move forward.Nail biting at this point is OK.  Moving forward in the game is like walking a tightrope with no net, over the Grand Canyon.Oh shit, you landed on the ‘stalked and harassed’ square.You notice the other players sneaking around.You notice the other players are digging through your trash outside.You notice the other players are calling on your workplace.The other players all get a ‘pass’ to third party you.You are left sitting with a feeling of fear.You stay on this square until you give up something….like freedom of speech.You end up mute. Next player:Roll the dice and move forward.You must draw from the stack of ‘Just f’ing do it!’ cards.You draw.You are assigned to measure for and make a custom fit golden thong.You measure, but are a bit queasy about this, but you just f’ing do it.You make the golden thong and deliver it to the small, but proud one.You are screamed at.You are smacked upside the head.You are dragged out to the RPF for not allowing room for a sock.You have no ‘get out of the RPF free’ card.You are treated like the scum of the earth, by the others in the RPF.Because they knew about the ‘room for a sock’ thing.You didn’t. Next player:Roll the dice and move forward:You end up on…… ******************************************************************************************* This is an interactive game.This is an ongoing game, for you.Roll the dice and create the next ‘play’. Enjoy.

Stoic-1
Stoic-1

It's a good thing that LRH found his place as a world class con-man because he's a f***ing terrible writer. Even his plagarism is lazy and uncreative.

Are_sics
Are_sics

This came up earlier -- did he (LRH) pick them up afterwards? How was this done? A life preserver on a rope? Was it someone's job? (i.e., a rescue or retrieval "hat"?)

Jonathan Hendry
Jonathan Hendry

"It's a bit like the account of Debbie being stood in a trash can with as ign declaring herself as a lesbian around her neck and having cold water poured over her."

If it lasted 30 seconds, it wouldn't be terribly dangerous. If it lasted three hours, it could be dangerous.

Noah Miller
Noah Miller

No, instead of the threat of drowning, there's the very real threat of hypothermia and no medical care to follow. Much less safe then waterboarding. 

MissCabbage
MissCabbage

Cool!  The description sounds like the Ideal Orgs in their current state--empty.

Brainslugged
Brainslugged

I think you give $cientologists way too much credit. While it's true they can argue that  The Hole specifically doesn't exist, you overlook that the fact that $cilons are only too happy to lie out of their butts about anything in and everything in their pursuit of KSW.

Marcotai
Marcotai

They are toooo much intelligent questions to ask over here.

DodoTheLaser
DodoTheLaser

Yep. Nice break for the cult. They will have to confront/face today HARD though.I hope them blink less TR's will come handy this time, because TRUTH comes down hard.

DodoTheLaser
DodoTheLaser

Apollo flaps?! Oh shit. I think some hats are about to hit the fan BIG time!

Re-reading KSW #1 five times, writing KR's on other's and my own O/W's.

Help me Gods of Horticulture!

BroekerBroekerBroeker
BroekerBroekerBroeker

The 8th Dynamic knows we don't begrudge you the break from the bunker. You've been on full tilt boogie for months, and we're all grateful for it. Even Marcotai.

But ...

In the future, when you take days off, is there any chance you could queue up a Scn open thread for the Runnin' Scared org staff?

hgc
hgc

Thanks, Dude. You're a prince.

Xenu's advocate
Xenu's advocate

Now, now, what about that amazing Terl doll that Tony has? And granted, Lovecraft has the cartoon l'il Cthulhu (if you haven't seen it yet, check it out) but Hubbard had that south park episode! Hubbard is a bad joke ESPECIALLY when his work is marketed...

sharkattacksteve
sharkattacksteve

"One person Lovecraft may have met was the science fiction writer and founder of the Church of Scientology, L Ron Hubbard. The two men did write for the pulps at the same time, and both even attended a Fiction Guild dinner in June 1936. In a letter to Robert Bloch (author of Psycho), Lovecraft mentions Hubbard’s name, but finds himself unable to remember meeting the gentleman . Of course, Hubbard did not found his Dianetics movement until well after Lovecraft was dead, and no researchers have found any Hubbard-Lovecraft letters. "

This is from a really great article about Lovecraft:

" forteantimes com/features/profiles/153/hp_lovecraft html "

Xenu's advocate
Xenu's advocate

We need more details! What happens when you go bankrupt? How do the houses and hotels look, or do you just get double-wide trailers? Is there a 'go to jail' space, or is it the RPF? What are the pieces shaped like? I guess we can keep the boat, although it should have blue asbestos patches on it... So many possibilities with the cards: "A 'new and improved' edition of Hubbard's works has been released, pay $5000", "Your courses turned out to be out tech, pay 2x the face cost of every 'property' you own so you can keep them." 

Llama
Llama

marcotai is either a:

(1) Troll, but a bad one, because people think he's stupid(2) Scientologist, albeit a stupid one(3) EASL, that OK, but he is still stupid

So options 1-3 all entail stupidity!!

grundoon
grundoon

L'il Cthulhu is soooo cuuute!

Noah Miller
Noah Miller

Hey OSA guys, I will sign contracts saying that I won't disparage the church for a period of one week for every video you let me watch. It's win win! 

N. Graham
N. Graham

It would be!  And Davy helped make them!  Lots of blood!  Oh, I wish we could see them!

Noah Miller
Noah Miller

You know what I'd really like to get ahold of is those training movies he directed. That's gotta be a rich vein of material there.

Are_sics
Are_sics

I like that quote, too.  And S.T. Joshi, who is something of a Lovecraft scholar, edited one of the more popular atheist/secularist anthologies.

sharkattacksteve
sharkattacksteve

"I am, indeed, an absolute materialist so far as actual belief goes; with not a shred of credence in any form of supernaturalism – religion, spiritualism, transcendentalism, metempsychosis, or immortality".- H.P Lovecraft

My hero.

bobx
bobx

I land on Boardwalk.  Coincidentally, the price to buy it is all the money I have.  But then, don't I want to put an Ideal Hotel on it?  The other players say they'll "lend" me the money, as long as I sign something or other....

Xenu's advocate
Xenu's advocate

You end up on...The win space (where Go would usually be)!You believe that you have had a huge win because the clouds above your house did not rain, proving that you could put your intention into anything and are at cause. You give  two hundred dollars to the bank.

Next...

just curious
just curious

OK, top hat is yours.Roll the dice and create the next 'play'.

just curious
just curious

Just use your imagination, and create the next 'play'.This could be fun!

bobx
bobx

I want the top hat!

wannabeclear
wannabeclear

That would actually be funny, if it weren't likely true...

Noah Miller
Noah Miller

Here's what I think, but I could be wrong, OSA realized that every time they put someone on a board to draw attention, within a year or two they'd leave the church. So now they've either decided to go with some sort of advanced automatic response machine, or someone like an EASL person in a basement in the Big Blue who can't leave cause they've got his passport. 

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