Scientology Sunday Funnies: Countdown to LRH's Birthday!

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Scientologists don't really have a Sunday service. They like to say that they do, because they crave mainstream acceptance. But unless Xenu rested after six days and L. Ron Hubbard just forgot to mention it, there's no reason for Scientologists to treat Sunday any differently than every other day of coursework, detoxes, fundraising, and generally clearing the planet.

So here at the Voice, we've come up with a Scientology Sunday tradition of our own, and we call it Sunday Funnies! Our sources regularly send us Scientology's wacky and tacky fundraising mailers, and each week we choose a few of them to gaze upon, hoping that it inspires you to wax eloquent in our comments section. So here we go...


Our countdown to LRH's birthday continues! Here in America, we may have lost an hour as we Sprung Forward last night, but that has only propelled us even more quickly to Scientology's big holiday.

The old man's meat body would have turned 101 on Tuesday if he hadn't wisely discarded it in 1986. As for his thetan, on Tuesday it turns 24 trillion quadrillion googolplex years old, so the candles necessary for his cake are going to have enough mass to create local gravitational issues. But that's still a couple of days away. As you can see from this flier, Flag celebrated things early with a big party last night. (LA's shindig is next week.) Anyone attend the festivities last night? Did DM get sauced? Let us know!

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Not sure what's going on in this next flier? Well, as Chuck Beatty explained it to us recently, these "OT Hatting" conventions are necessary because, well, you just can't spend too much money preparing for your actual OT levels which will involve, um, spending a lot more money...

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In this next flier, we see the true benefit of opening a new Ideal Org in Inglewood, California -- so that Scientology can get a much-needed infusion of soul. As we all know, in the immortal words of David Miscavige, "most white folks wouldn't have a clue what it means to be cool if it weren't for Black America."

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And here's a bonus mailer, if you had any doubt about the resolve of the Sea Organization!

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Well, that should give us enough material for discussion this Sunday morning. So enjoy that piping hot cup of coffee, and share with us your thoughts on this glorious weekend.

(And remember, two more days to the holiest day on the Scientology calendar. Tomorrow, we have a big story that we think is really going to knock you out. And on Tuesday just wait until you see what we have as a present for LRH. It's going to be so theta!)


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Tony Ortega has been the editor in chief of the Village Voice since March, 2007. He started writing about Scientology in 1995. You can reach him by e-mail at tortega@villagevoice.com, and if you ask nicely he'll put you on his mailing list for notifications of new stories, which tend to come out each and every morning at 8 am, but can suddenly appear at any time of the day. You can also catch his alerts at Twitter (@VoiceTonyO), at his Facebook author page, on Pinterest, a Tumblr, and even this new Google Plus doohickey.

New readers might want to check out our primer, "What is Scientology?" Another good overview is our series from last summer, "Top 25 People Crippling Scientology." At the top of every story, you'll see the "Scientology" category which, if you click on it, will bring up all of our most recent stories. As for our regular features, on Thursdays we do a roundup of world press, on Fridays we visit L. Ron Hubbard on the yacht Apollo circa 1969-1971, on Saturdays we celebrate the week's best comments, and on Sundays we publish Scientology's wacky and tacky advertising mailers that people send us.

As for hot subjects we've covered here, you may have heard about Debbie Cook, the former church official who rebelled and is now being sued by Scientology. You might have also heard about the Super Power Building, Scientology's "Mecca," whose secrets were revealed here. We also reported how Scientology spied on its own most precious object, Tom Cruise. (We wrote Tom an open letter that he has yet to respond to.) Have you seen a Scientology ad on TV lately? We debunked some of the claims in that 2-minute commercial you might have seen while watching Glee or American Idol.

Other stories have looked at Scientology's policy of "disconnection" that is tearing families apart. You may also have heard something about the Sea Org experiences of the Paris sisters, Valeska and Melissa, and their friend Ramana Dienes-Browning. We've also featured Paulette Cooper, who wrote about Scientology back in the day, and Janet Reitman, Hugh Urban, and the team at the Tampa Bay Times, who write about it today. And there's plenty more coming.

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Jgg
Jgg

Here is what L. Ron Hubbard said about Black / African people.  I am sure the "soul" angle will do well.

"You shouldn't be scrubbing the floor on your hands and knees. Get yourself a nigger; that's what they're born for."

"Actually, have you ever noticed how a Negro, in particular down south, where they're pretty close to the soil, personifies MEST? The gatepost and the wagon and the whip and anything around there—a hat. They talk to them, you know. "What'sa mattuh wi' you hat?" They imbue them with personality. "

"As long as a white foreman is there, they will prevent soil erosion; but the moment that a white foreman turns his back — boo! There goes the whole program. "

Too Much
Too Much

"Our duty is to create a sane planet" -- LOL! Holy fucking irony, Batman!!!11

Anon2880
Anon2880

Apparently, the original point of the "religious" cloaking device Scientology employs was to keep Sea Org staff exempt from the draft during the Vietnam War. The requirement was to take the "Minister's Course" and receive "ordination" upon completion.

I guess despite the 10 million or so adherent that Scientology claimed during the late 1960s, there were no calls for Scientology chaplains at the front.

wannabeclear
wannabeclear

Can someone please explain to me what "soul duds" are?  Because I gots to get me some of those...   Wow that Inglewood flyer seems highly stereotypical and offensive.  As thought it were made by some completely unhip whitey white white people who were trying to be hip to the jive in the 'hood.  Just leaves me feeling icky.

Anon2880
Anon2880

"Soul duds" are what Huggy Bear of the original "Starsky and Hutch" used to wear.Tripping over your lapels just ain't cool, brough.

DodoTheLaser
DodoTheLaser

Peach Ciroc, anyone? Is it a racist question? Sorry, if it is. No racism meant/intended.

I mean it. Think derper, good people of Inglewood.

FistSalad
FistSalad

If the Inglewood org is so ideal, why is the party in Orange County?

Anon2880
Anon2880

2MC, yo("too much crime" for you honkies)

Will-o-the-wisp
Will-o-the-wisp

Sea Org looks pretty Cool. How many years of training before one gets to carry a brief case? That Women in the Poster looks like shes ready to clean up this troubled planet. You can tell not one Thetan is clinging to that Body.

Will-o-the-wisp
Will-o-the-wisp

Once again - Thank you Mr Ortega for another great Piece! Scientology is my #1 Source of Laughs and Entertainment. Keep em coming. Tuesday the 13th I plan on giving a huge shout out (Hip Hip Yoo Ray!) to the Imortal L Ron, and will smoke (even though I don't) a Kool Menthol in his honor. Smoking is not a Drug. Am I correct?

N. Graham
N. Graham

 Laugh if you will, but that Kool Menthol will be protecting you from radiation.  Take it from a physicist. Yes, Ron, of course.  How can you jest about that? What are your crimes?

Will-o-the-wisp
Will-o-the-wisp

You're right N. Graham - Hubbard did say Smoking Cigs Protect you from Lung Cancer. What a Dope!

Here's the complete statement by L. Ron Hubbard in regard to cancer sufferers:"Well, there are societies in England that are having an awfully good time fighting the cigarette. They can't do anything else, so they fight cigarettes. And they say that the cigarette causes lung cancer. And they've - you've been hearing something of this, I'm sure. Yeah. Not smoking enough will cause lung cancer. Not smoking enough will cause lung cancer! If anybody is getting a cancerous activity in thelung, the probabilities are that it's radiation dosage coupled with the fact that he smokes. And what it does is start to run out the radiation dosage, don't you see.. But I'd say that would be better than not running out any of the radiation dosage at all and the number of lung cancer cases which exist, of course, that don't smoke are just forgotten by these societies, but they are very numerous."

Source(s):

L. Ron Hubbard - SHSBC 35, 6107C19 (19th October 1961), "Question and Answer Period: Auditor Effect on Meter".

Will-o-the-wisp
Will-o-the-wisp

I'm Doomed N. Graham! Dooooooom. Anyway my friend - Happy LRH B-Day Eve! (notice the use of just letters, Ron would be so proud) Hip Hip Hoo Ray!

OTVIIIisGrrr8!
OTVIIIisGrrr8!

COB RTC David Miscavige has extended an invitation to President and Mrs. Obama to visit Ideal Org Inglewood. In that invitation, COB asked the President and First Lady to be sure to wear their soul duds when they come to our crib for soul food. COB is truly a master of race relations as is Scientologist Louis Farrakhan.

On other vital social issues, we in RTC are developing a "Slut Shaming Repair Rundown" as a way to help Sluts who have been shamed by Republicans. We in the Church of Scientology are reaching out to Sluts and saying, "We can cure you." Scientology can cure slutiness, homosexuality, and any other gross out 2D conditions using the Tech.

No woman will ever need to demand birth control paid for by the government when she joins the Sea Org. In fact, we have long had a system in place where our Sea Org women already get free abortions paid for by the taxpayer. We in RTC were way ahead of the curve on this issue.

Jean
Jean

If I've told them once, I've told them a thousand times:

It isn't "If you GOT soul,"

It's "If you HAVE got soul,"  DUH!!

Bring on the collard greens and fried chicken!!!

John P.
John P.

The Sea Org ensign in the ad looks more than a little like Kirstie Alley as Lt. Saavik, the Vulcan in Star Trek: The Wrath of Kahn (1982).  Wonder if they airbrushed in Kirstie-as-Saavik's face to give the Sea Org a little more "galactic cred" if they run this ad on neighboring planets.    

And of course, one cannot help but recall the immortal lyrics of early Sea Org member Cap'n Bill Robertson's anthem for the Galactic Patrol when thinking of the Sea Org planning to boldly go where no cult has gone before.   

"We all live only to dieIn our ships out in the skyWarriors for a cause more than lifeDuty, honor won in strife

We all live only to dieIn our ships out in the skyWe are loyal, brave and trueThere is nothing we dare not do

We all die only to liveFreedom, justice is ours to giveStars and laurels for the boldWe come back. Galactic Patrol

So to the stars we goThru the space we knowFor you

Stars and laurels for the bold(We all live only to die)We come back(We all die only to live)Galac Patrol

(In our ships out in the skyIn our ships out in the free sky)In our ships out in the free skyGalac Patra!"

bobx
bobx

The ensign also reminded me of Tom Cruise's reluctant co-counsel in "A Few Good Men".

Alexis de Tocqueville
Alexis de Tocqueville

Actually, in sea ogre rank she's a Warrant Officer. Perhaps that's why she looks so pissed off. 

John P.
John P.

In looking at the Inglewood flyer, I was seized by the idea that a bunch of pasty-skinned middle-aged white Sea Org members were going to try to dress up with some "street cred" and get some soul.  Imagine the Melbourne Org rap video from a couple weeks ago writ far larger.  

They're going to celebrate the Inglewood Org, not by actually journeying to Inglewood where they are afraid of getting their cars stolen, but in Orange County, where the white middle class suburb was practically invented.  That makes about as much sense as looking for enlightenment in the viscous depths of an oiliness table.  

I would have to imagine that in their clueless zeal, the party planners will try to score a "twofer" by celebrating both Soul culture and LRH's upcoming birthday.  I envisioned Chill EB in his role as "cultural ambassador" reworking one of the classic tunes by Scientology's late Icon of Soul, Isaac Hayes, to show that the world's most ethical people are also the world's most soulful.  

Chill EB's effort might go something like this (cue thumping bass line and scratchin' guitar intro):

Who's the white thetan manThat's an OT machine to all the chicks?HUBB!Damn right! 

Who is the man whose fake navy will pretendFor his brother man?HUBB!Can you dig it? 

Who's the cat to research stuffWhen that Xemu crap is not enough?HUBB!Right on! 

They say this cat Hubb is a cult leaderSHUT YOUR MOUTH!I'm talkin' 'bout HubbTHEN WE CAN DIG IT!

He's a complicated manAnd no one understands him but Mis-cav-igeRON HUBB!

Victoria
Victoria

Totally bogative that they aren't holding the Inglewood event... well in Inglewood.

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

That's cuz...Inglewood is always up to know good.

MarkStark
MarkStark

About Clam Night at the Oak Cove, you'd think if this Mike Fine guy were so powerfully OT, he could drill 'em right at home using his brain beams, and they wouldn't have to do it in the back of a restaurant. And in 45 minutes? Come on, everybody knows that to be OT, you have to go OT. That's factual. What would they need Orgs and a ship for if you could do it in any restaurant?

"I'd like the veal parmigiana. No, no make that an OT drilling with clam sauce. I'm watching my body thetans."

Seayaorg
Seayaorg

or he could levitate or telekines everything - like in the joann lawless/young book - (now she is Flag Service Consultant) which also promotes ingo swann. i read it in 1979. i have telekinesed the latest ext courses already and use esp to find the answers. i am insouciant. oh it does also mention dr thelma ross - who founded the actors studio where manu tupou and clint eastwood came from

NOTseriously
NOTseriously

Ooooh INSOUCIANT!  I love when you use those big words! Tony, you gotta add that to your vocabulary.

Robert Robinson
Robert Robinson

Tony, I am glad to see that you finally posted a truly honest mailer.  The Sea Org does indeed do "Whatever it Takes".  They will lie, cheat, steal, and hurt anyone who stands in their way.  Oh, and one other thing.  Thank you so much for all that you do.  Who would have thought that a "WOG" such as yourself would be such and kind and caring individual.

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

Yeah, that mailer screams, 'Paulette Cooper!'

sharkattacksteve
sharkattacksteve

So the OT Hatting Night is held in the back of the Oak Cove restaurant ? Is that like the Clearwater version of Cheers ? If LRH walked in everybody would yell "Ron' in unison ?

Soul Nite in Orange County ? Is that the same Orange County that's home to John Wayne Airport and the John Birch Society ? LOL

Sanddancer
Sanddancer

As an Orange County escapee, I can confirm your questions. The OC org is pretty much right under the flight path of the John Wayne airport (named in a fit of irony, no doubt, because John Wayne absolutely hated that airport). Yeah, soul nite in orange county, especially south orange county...not gonna happen.

grundoon
grundoon

Inglewood Org is like a graveyard on Saturday night, nothing gonna happen there, so that's when the ED likes to boogie down wit da homeboyz at da OC org.

Chocolate Velvet
Chocolate Velvet

Can I just say - that Inglewood org poster, with all those "soul" references? That is only going to keep black folks away. I mean, come on. If I saw that, I would know it was a group of white people looking for a "black experience". Simply put, I hate that shit. "Hey black people, come be our tokens of Soul!". Makes me want to puke. I would avoid it like the pandering bullshit it is. Good luck with that, scientology...

Chocolate Velvet
Chocolate Velvet

Funny coincidence: as I was posting the above, I am watching Paul Mooney on Netflix and he starts talking about black people in scientology! (Isaac Hayes, Forrest Whitaker are names he mentions) Then he points out that comedians will joke about christians, jews, mormons, black, white, whatever - but not scientology, "they're like the Gestapo." An excellent point, IMO. He goes on about South Park and Isaac Hayes. I don't think I have ever heard a comedian go after sci that way. Wow. Of course, Mooney is fearless and hardcore. (Not recommended unless you like your comedy really controversial.) :)

V for Vacation
V for Vacation

This poster does so clearly and horribly show how entirely out of touch and ignorant DM and other CoS staff are with any people who are not inbred, incubated, imprisoned drones like they are.  This poster is so disgustingly racist, and yet they are too uneducated and cloistered and self-focused to even know it.  It might as well be called just a modern version of something from the 1930s.  "Black people (a) have 'soul', (b) like to dance, and (c ) eat their own southern food.  The end.  Let's have an exotic adventure and try to hang out with them for an hour."  So despicable.  

It's the same idiotic perspective that makes them think showing up in a place like Haiti with water bottles and offering massages is going to help people whose lives, homes, culture, government, whatever, have been literally decimated.  This is what happens when people go into Scientology at ages 5-14 and are robbed of a decent education that includes exposure to other types of people and cultures, and last but not least science.  They are like the the unfortunate kids being home schooled by evangelical christians who teach that the world is 6000 years old and everyone besides them is evil, and to pray for the Rapture.  

Too bad the Catholic church has such a death grip on Latino culture, otherwise I'd be expecting a grand opening party of the new Echo Park Ideal Org, complete with piñata bashing (no candy inside, only cigarettes and cassette tapes of LRH lectures), salsa dancing, and taco trucks.  Apparently CoS is already expert at cooking up large quantities of rice and beans -- why not?

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

"You don't know the history of black people, we do." We know they like soul food, soul entertainment, soul duds, and the word soul. I'd love to see the data they've collected while racially profiling blacks.

You know deep down the blacks are making fun of the geeky white scientologists in their "Chester The Molester" trench coats.

Wait until scientologist teach them there is no human soul only an alien soul.

I can't wait to hear stories from blacks, after they blow from the RPF. I wonder if Hanan Islam is getting a taste of what happens when you f-k up in the white bubble of scientology?

sharkattacksteve
sharkattacksteve

 Forrest Whitaker ? Oh no say it isn't so !

Also anyone who hasn't seen Kathy Griffin tear Cruise and Co$ a new a-hole should go to NaziTube and check it out.

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

And here I am watching Malcolm X. I love Denzel Washington's acting. Please don't tell me he's a scientologist?

What's weird is Farrakhan calling Malcolm X, an apostate, sound familiar?Farrakhan has denied ordering the assassination of Malcolm X, but later admitted to having "helped create the atmosphere" that led to it, in a 60 min. Interview with Mike Wallace.

David Miscavige and Louis Farrakhan have a lot in common. I can't wait until they turn on each other. Plus, I bet both of them spy on each other like crazy. LOL

Jefferson Hawkins
Jefferson Hawkins

Soul duds = failed OTs.

BroekerBroekerBroeker
BroekerBroekerBroeker

The Soul Dud Rundown is available at Flag and on the Freewinds. Trained Soul Dud auditors pinpoint the implants inhibiting your soul development, and they have the checksheets necessary to restore your thetan bob. As LRH wrote in his poem "Black Caesar" (a companion piece to "Hymn of Asia" that was unavailable for decades due to PTS transscribers),

"Pick up on this, pick up on this. I'm a greedy man, I'm a greedy man. Now, PCs - don't leave your homework undone. You got to have something to sit on before you go OT. Don't say I ain't got it, because I can't live without it - ah, it's bettah than dying of something you mocked up."

This is the rundown, lost for over thirty years, that will fully restore your theta, ARC, and soul.

Alexis de Tocqueville
Alexis de Tocqueville

The guys doing promo at Corporate Scio spent a great deal of time pondering the advertising concept of 'positioning', used back in something like the late 60s/early 70s on brands like Avis car rental and 7Up beverage.  They also spend copious amounts of time studying the message conveyed by the image used on a given promo piece. (I'd add "spend a great deal of money" to the above but when you're getting workers at .45 cents an hour, the overhead is pretty low).  With respect to the flier for the OT Hatting gig at the (all caps) OAK COVE (no caps) restaurant, it looks like one's going to gain the ability to levitate off the side of their cruise liner  by attending the lecture - maybe so as to see crew in their dining room eating rice and beans three times a day (but they get Starbucks coffee to keep 'em going for 18 hours per.)

Banony
Banony

The flyer that has the boat is photoshopped so that the boat appears to have run aground.  Way to go guys.

Jefferson Hawkins
Jefferson Hawkins

"The event will be held at Ruth Eckerd Hall and we want to see every Scientologist there." The Ruth Eckerd Hall seats 2180. That just about says it all.

One wonders what "soul duds" are to a Scientologist. Is the image of the woman in the last poster perhaps an example?

Schockenawd
Schockenawd

So... who is Ruth Eckerd, anyway?

Aa
Aa

Of Eckerd Drugs, ironically. 

BroekerBroekerBroeker
BroekerBroekerBroeker

I assume that "soul duds" are supposed to resemble mufti worn by Jesse Prince in Clearwater during an incognito visit to Flag in 1979.  Ron referred to Jesse's civvies as "soul duds," thus creating a permanent Source reference.

MarkStark
MarkStark

 Whew! What a relief it hear it is on-Source.

BroekerBroekerBroeker
BroekerBroekerBroeker

NB: Any claims made above by me regarding the Source provenance of anything should be taken in the spirit in which they were offered. I am not a tech terminal. At best, I am an imaginary channeling of a veterinary services provider in Prague.

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

That's ok. They'll film the event with a wide angle lens and photoshop 5 more extra people.

Poor boy
Poor boy

Reminds me of those Gold photo shoots where a gazillion "extras" were recruited to fill up seats in the courseroom or wherever, to show how crowded the place was.

Chuck Beatty
Chuck Beatty

Tony,

The comments section again today prove why Village Voice's coverage is so valuable.

The philosophical underpinnings of Scientology, the "thetan" discussion, are one of the most powerful and seemingly logical hooks that grab and keep members.

The "thetan" hook had me for 27 years, it was one of the four corners of the the whole philosophy, and all the Hubbard pseudo therapy is built upon the "thetan".

And joking about the thetan is a good way to get the idiots to look at the thetan.

The thetan, is US, each of us, supposedly, and it goes right into us as supposedly the immortal soul that we are, that supposedly transmigrates lifetime to lifetime.

I urge ex members willing to get it all straight to read Pinker, Dennett, and Searle, regarding what consciousness is.    It's NOT the soul underneath it all.  

That's the big first curb I fell over, when I stumbled into Scientology Phoenix's doors.   I bought the thetan "proof".    "Who's looking at the picture of the kitty cat you just created in your mind?   It's you, the thetan!"    

Wrong, it's just the brain consciousness experience.   No brain, no consciousness.   

Hubbard says brain death is survived by the ejecting thetan that floats to a hospital (via an implant center if repeat implanting is needed) to "pick up a new baby's body" and start a new life.

The ejecting soul searching a new baby's body to transmigrate to fantasy is a long term human    and touchy discussion, but it's at the heart of the Hubbard sales pitch to buy his Bridge to Total full blown exorcism of Xenu's implanted "body thetans."

sharkattacksteve
sharkattacksteve

Is the Thetan a "soul" or "spirit" or is it a non-corporeal immortal alien being ? I ask this because what I got from reading Incident 1 was that the Thetans were a race, the original race and not "spirits" which I believe is a description CoS uses to avoid raised eyebrows and by making it sound like their belief is similar to the Catholic "soul". I thought I'd ask you because if you can't explain this no one can.

Chuck Beatty
Chuck Beatty

the thetan is the soul, and the Hubbard emphasis is that there is NO soul like one "has a soul", in Hubbard's view you ARE a soul, and thus you don't have a soul, because you are a soul.

Now, as a soul, in your head, most likely, and running your body like a puppet, you ALSO have a crapload of hitchhiking "body thetans" who are simply souls without their own bodies that they control, they're sort of dead in their heads, amnesia tranced mostly, and they are in clusters, they are lacking the will power to empower a body on their own, so cluster and just randomly attach to human bodies.

The BEST all time Hubbard reference is called the "NOTs Indoctrination" issue writing, it's been confirmed, I confimred with Bruce Hines, that the original 1978 "NOTs Indoctrination" issue is the text of a private briefing that L. Ron Hubbard gave to one of the senior Int Base "Senior Case Supervisor Office" personnel, a lady named Melanie Murray.   

The "NOTs Indoctrination" issue is what the OT 5 Scientologists and exorcists read to get the nuts and bolts of all the additional "body thetans" that the upper level Scientologists have to locate and deal with.

There's a whole crapload MORE of the body thetans, mostly in clusters, and the body thetans are all individual souls, but clustered due to their tremendous implanting and trauma from the Xenu Wall of Fire incident and the 36 and 1/2 days of 3D movie theater implanting they all got.    

Prof Dave Toureztky had a "NOTs Scholar" page, and it included the link to the "NOTs Indoctrination" raw writing by Hubbard, and that writing is a must read for "experts" of the "upper levels" concepts.

Yes, body thetans are souls, just like we all are each souls, but the body thetans are just really beaten down souls, they are souls so dumb and in semi amnesia trance so bad, they are not spiffy enough to run bodies on their own, but they just flock in clusters and infest human bodies.

They leak their snippets of the Xenu implanting into our minds, that is explained in the "NOTs Indoctrination" writing by Hubbard.

so, in big strokes, the Hubbard "lower levels" get a person to Clear, and bascially untraumatized from the effects of you as the soul you individually are, from all the trauma of your whole past lives "charge" all the back for you, for your soul history.

Then, when you get to the "upper levels" you do the Hubbard exorcism, today on OT levels 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7, to exorcise the "body thetans" and thus any leaking gunk from the body thetans' minds is gone and no longer leaking into your mind.

Wa La!

Now you're ready for the uppper uppper levels, and Hubbard never came up with those, so Captain Bill of Ron's Org came up, (he channeled Hubbard to come up with the upper upper levels that the Ron's org do today).

Final goal, soul astronaut, and capable of operating as a pure soul, minus a body.

No one's of course ever achieved this, and that's why it's a con;

sharkattacksteve
sharkattacksteve

 Thanks. I started reading the NOTS onetime and then I got a headache.

Synthia Elizabeth Fagen
Synthia Elizabeth Fagen

"I urge ex members willing to get it all straight to read Pinker, Dennett, and Searle, regarding what consciousness is.  It's NOT the soul underneath it all."

Well, Hubbard is certainly not the only one to talk of an immortal "soul" and though Pinker, Dennett, and Searle sound as if they are approaching the subject more scientifically, their ideas are still theories.

I am still searching and researching. I don't know exactly what I think but, a brain consciousness theory necessarily posits that there is no life after death. I find that hard to believe even from the very non-religious stance that I now hold.

Scientia
Scientia

Synthia, if you haven't already, have a look at some of the research undertaken by peeps such as Sam Parnia and the late Ian Stevenson.

Stevenson investigated "past life" memories of young children and also explored the idea of whether birthmarks could be linked to past life injuries. Highly scoffable for some, but his results were nonetheless astonishing.

Parnia, on the other hand, is leading the way on research into near death experiences, and consciousness after clinical death. Results from a four year study (AWARE) led by Parnia at the University of Southampton (UK), in collaboration with more than 25 major medical centres around the world, are imminent...!

MarkStark
MarkStark

As an outsider, the thing that confused me at first was the use of the word "thetan" as a basic concept (easy enough to understand) and then "body thetans" as a highly-secretive hush-hush upper level concept no one can talk about that involves DC8-like space planes (!)...  stacked them around volcanoes...hydrogen bombs. What could all this absurdly contrived screwiness -- H-bombs transforming frozen aliens into clusters of spirits (BTs) -- possibly have to do with spirituality or reality? On the other hand it has a lot to do with being in a cult, and mind control, and not being able to question things openly.

For that reason, I never bothered using this terminology in a way I thought was correct according to Source because it is all so nutty. If some of the smartest people like RVY took it seriously at first, but woke up to the fact it is a trap and scam, it isn't for me to try to figure out what Hubbard meant.

Along with that, if uneducated people with rather mediocre minds like Marty Rathbun insist it is very meaningful or wise, the more shallow their thinking about other things, it just reinforces the idea that LRH's creation is a mish-mash of BS meant to be followed and purchased, more than understood, at least in a way that can be conveyed to others.

When they pull the argument about it being something you "do," well, look what it has done to them?

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