Racist with an Explanation: Rightbloggers Defend John Derbyshire

"John Derbyshire is not a raaaaacist," said The Camp of the Saints, using the traditional rightblogger shorthand for false accusations of racism. "... Don't buy into the Leftist Narrative being crafted to divert your attention away from the Left's vile behavior in the Trayvon Martin shooting and their attempt to bring down another intrepid soul on the Right."

At Protein Wisdom, Jeff Goldstein didn't see what was so racist about the idea that white people should avoid black people out of fear for their lives.

Derbyshire's article was "honest," said Goldstein, "and as such, it was not sufficiently filtered for a media climate where political correctness still provides the parameters for what is and isn't acceptable."

Goldstein did admit that "as a practical rhetorical matter, I think Derbyshire did himself no favors by singling out blacks" -- presumably if he'd added something about his contempt for homosexuals, people might have taken it better -- and that "his article brought out some unsavory types in the comments -- WHY WON'T DERBYSHIRE TAKE ON THE KIKES?" -- though, Goldstein explained, that had "has less to do with his article and more to do with certain people who are always drawn to such pieces" for reasons no one can understand.

Speaking of people who are drawn to such pieces, Goldstein went on to denounce Eric Holder, Spike Lee, Al Sharpton, people putting "bounties on George Zimmerman," people "who yell 'SCIENCE!' and want to put conservatives in re-education camps," and "the left's control over the social narrative" which has so twisted our discourse that people who hate and fear African-Americans are misperceived as racists. ("I already know I'm not a racist," added Goldstein, though we wonder why he bothered.)

Some tried to paint the corners. Tom Maguire, for example, who has devoted the past few weeks to trying to prove that Trayvon Martin had it coming, said, "a friend of mine (AF) commented that Paul Simon fills Central Park and all is well; Diana Ross draws a crowd and there are near-riots. His thought, roughly - 'gee, go figure.'" The Diana Ross riot was in 1983, and many, many black artists have performed in New York since then without incident. (The Black-Eyed Peas played Central Park last summer and no riot ensued; perhaps Maguire, or "AF," attributes this to the calming presence of Fergie.)

Dan Riehl claimed to have a black friend -- well, to have had one, anyway, in sixth grade, and that this black friend told him, during an interracial squabble at their school, "Dan, you know if this gets bigger and we end up getting pulled in, I have to be with my people, right?"

So this alleged remark proved... well, we're not sure what, but it prompted Riehl to ask, "how much of what Derbyshire wrote is mostly true in a still too significant portion of America's population, black, or white?" as if Derbyshire's hatred of blacks had some lessons for black people besides "John Derbyshire hates you."

Riehl added: "The left is always screaming racism, often even when it hasn't been proven to exist -- as in the recent case of Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman. Even the media falsely screamed it. So, along comes Derbyshire and, I don't know, confesses it, on his part? And all the left can do is scream, get him!" Plus, "the left should be thanking Derbyshire for being honest - for confirming so much of what they themselves always seem to be saying." What a bunch of ingrates!

"Some of [Derbyshire's column] is stupid. A lot of it is insensitive," said Rick Moran at American Thinker. But, he allowed, "some of it is valuable advice." For example: "Only the most rabid racialist would say something negative about Derbyshire's warning to his kids to avoid heavily black neighborhoods..." Maybe Moran should go to Harlem and warn all the white folks living up there to run for their lives.

On the "Rightblogger will tell you what the real outrage is" front, Robert Stacy McCain denounced "the Left's attempt to bully [Slate writer David] Weigel for failing to denounce Derbyshire in strong enough terms." McCain showed no evidence of this alleged bullying of Weigel -- he later explained, "I noticed people on Twitter giving Dave Weigel grief" -- but attacked this imaginary retributive movement as "a sort of Maoist tactic, the demand for conformity and solidarity," and shook his fist at the Maoist hordes: "And now the Left's trying to get Weigel fired from Slate? Be careful what you wish for, lefties. It could be worse."

(In 2010, Weigel was forced to resign from the Washington Post for saying mean things about conservatives on a private mailing list. Maybe McCain brought him up as an inside joke.)

Some went into deeper, stranger varieties of denial; Breitbart acolyte Lee Stranahan, for example, tweeted that "Derb's views on race & IQ strike me as profoundly ANTI-conservative ; a product of Margret Sanger-like progressive psuedoscience run amok." Derbyshire as liberal -- well, you can't say it isn't original.

Meanwhile, some guy in Tulsa whose father was killed by a black man (or, as the suspect put it at Facebook, "shot by a fucking nigger") in a family dispute two years ago allegedly went on a black-killing rampage to celebrate the anniversary.

It's early yet, but we're already getting some rightblogger reactions:

"40 year old Pernell Jefferson is serving six years in prison for killing Jake England's father, Carl. That's it?" sympathized Scared Monkeys. "Jake England will be serving the rest of his life for the murders he is alleged to have done."

"The Tulsa Killer (Jake England's) Father Was Murdered By A Black Man 2 Years Ago~WHERE WAS THE OUTRAGE?" yelled The Mad Jewess. "...this happened under the Obama watch." "Lo and behold, this was an entirely predictable retaliatory strike against the Black Undertow," said Occidental Dissent.

"IF it comes out that this shooting had anything to do with the Trayvon Martin issue, then I blame the entire thing on Obama and his henchmen," muttered American and Proud through a mouthful of chaw. "IF They had ties to the Aryan Nation in any way it's a direct response to the hype of Black Panthers/Media frenzy and the democrat party faithful who have pushed for it... The 'Occupy' people were way too white in the streets. They needed to capture some 'Black' anger and get involvement. What we have here is the catalyst."

If Derbyshire starts up his own magazine, he won't have any trouble knowing where to look for subscribers -- or columnists.

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StupidVillageVoice
StupidVillageVoice

Whites MUST learn to NEVER defend themselves when they are set upon by a pack of feral niggers. That is tantamount to racism! And as we all know, RACISM IS WORSE THAN MURDER ITS THE WORST THING THAT ANYBODY CAN EVER DO - EVER. If you see your White daughter or your grandmother being beaten to a bloody pulp by feral niggers, the sensitive and tolerant thing to do is to stand back and let the beating happen. By defending your White life and your White familys lives, you are exhibiting RACISM that might be offensive. 

Curt Doolittle
Curt Doolittle

Thank you for quoting me on this issue.  I was pretty reluctant to write about it.  It strikes me as odd that if I write something on fashion or gender relations, or racism, that it gets a lot of attention -- my most popular article was when I stated that tattoos had gone out of style in the middle class.  But if I write something meaningful about political theory you can hear crickets.  So, I guess this kind of thing goes with the territory.

But I have a few nits with your quote:1) Racism is just plain stupid. One cannot just an individual by the properties of his class. Although one can judge a class by the properties of its individuals. 2) Denying that we have a racial issue is not stupid. It's obvious, or we wouldn't be having this discussion. I'lll avoid the detail of why we have a greater problem with race than our english and canadian counterparts, but the fact that we do, is indicative of the problem. They can enforce behavioral norms, and our society has forbidden such pressure to conformity as the French impose.3) Denying that poverty is a symptom is not stupid either. You imply that I do not seem to appreciate this issue.  Acknowledging that the reason for poverty is not racism but IQ is not stupid either. It's just what it is.  Acknowledging that the distribution of IQ varies among groups isn't stupid either. 

5) I'm not advocating racism - that is an emotional construct. I"m saying that the suite of policy solutions that seek to solve the problem through educational commingling, and treating racial groups as homogenous in ability is simply HARMFUL to those at the bottom,  40% of whom are black. Even the genders are not homogenous. If we look at the data we should not start boys in school for a year after we start girls, and perhaps two years. That's just one aspect of the Finnish model.  Instead, those troubled demographics need special attention. I'm appealing for special attention -- ie: schools designed to teach something other than middle class whites and asians.  I can forgive you for not knowing my broader political position, and leaping to the conclusion you did. I'm just not sure I want to let the error go unanswered. And a look at the complexion of my family, which is a rainbow, should be enough to convince anyone of my personal disposition.

6) Derbyshire was fired for speaking the truth in order to draw attention to the problem.  I"m not sure I think his argument is particularly useful. I am sure I don't agree with his reasons or his solutions. But he was speaking the truth. If you are one of the deniers that thinks human IQ distributions are environmental rather than genetic, then you can get together with climate deniers and have a celebration.  But the matter is settled in the data. It's settled in the profession.  And the dirty secret of the Human Genome project: we know why now. Social classes are genetically determined too. And capitalism's fast meritocratic rotation makes these differences rapidly visible.  So lets move beyond name calling and solve this problem.  We can solve it by throwing welfare money at it, or do what we're doing and continue to see little progress, or we can understand that a very different school system is needed with far more support for a demographic that needs special care in order to fit successfully into society.  Because what we're doing isn't working.The race and class warfare prevents us from "Getting To Denmark" and building an egalitarian society. I don't believe that society can be created with a 300M+ population like it can in a 5M population if  we have to rely on a government where consensus of belief is needed and where  the winner takes all.  And reorganizing our political institutions to accomodate for our impossibly complex diversity of opinion, desire, visions AND abilities, is what I work on full time.I don't expect thanks for it. On the other hand, I have many faults, but I don't think the one you're attributing to me is one of them.  :)ThanksCurt Doolittle

robthom
robthom

"...black people were less intelligent than whites and more prone to violence, and thus should be avoided."

I dont know about the less intelligent part, although they do generally seem less interested in "intellectual" ephemera (black people aren't big dungeons and dragons fans),

but the violence part is true.

And it is safer to avoid them.

And here's a bonus truth:

Libs have no use for truths that don't fit into their agenda.

robthom
robthom

  I'm glad you linked to the article in question, so that everyone can see what a race baiting liar you are.

steve5656546346
steve5656546346

It just is true that there is more Black on White crime than White on Black.

As our Glorious Leader has told us, you are entitle to your own opinions, but not to your own facts.

Googie Bergdorff
Googie Bergdorff

White liberals in NYC are so much more tactful in how they engage in racism.

robthom
robthom

They are a clever people.

They're good with money and they make good lawyers.

Although whether they are actually white or not is debatable.

neo
neo

Does Vox Day still go around with a slab of liver glued to his head?

Metal Gear
Metal Gear

The poster "Il ragno" is involved with occidental dissent and works for the village voice.  He should be fired.

sphys
sphys

There's a blog named "The Camp of the Saints"? As in the 1973 novel by Jean Raspail, now published in English by The Social Contract Press? That "makes Samuel P. Huntington's 'The Clash of Civilizations' look like a child's primer," according to a professor of mine? The only book that made me think I could have an immortal soul because of how afraid I became that I was permanently staining it by the mere act of reading the book? That's--wow. I can't even think of what to say beyond describing the book.

McSalmon
McSalmon

 True story - a report says that the National Socialists have been invited into Sanford Florida to 'patrol' the area to 'prevent a race riot'. Now, if I were to walk down that street of an evening, should I be happy that they were there since they were just a bunch of armed white guys, and certainly not any of a dusky hue? Or, should I avoid them on the basis of them being a bunch of armed thugs looking to start trouble? Discuss.

JimGoad
JimGoad

True story: It's not a true story. The article used pictures of a group in Arizona and quotes from a group in Detroit. But go ahead and believe what you want to believe. That's how True Believers roll, innit?

http://legalinsurrection.com/2...

mds
mds

 "National Socialists"?  You'd have nothing to fear from your fellow liberals.  Naturally they're armed thugs looking to start trouble; all you STALINISTS are.  Deadly bags of Skittles were just the beginning of your perfidy.

McSalmon
McSalmon

 'I fed a man some Skittles just to watch him die.'

But, Amazingly, that happened. The local Fox affiliate carried the story and had a black reporter do the story from the neighborhood, which had to be one of the finest displays of mute passive aggressive reporting I've seen in a good long time.

Johnp
Johnp

What is so ironic about the whole situation is that you have white racists defending a man who has non-white children with a chinese woman.

Do they not realize that he is directly responsible for the decline in the population of whites (as Mongoloid genes are dominant versus European genes) and therefore is actually preventing the creation of future generations of white racists?

Hello?

Guest
Guest

Eh, to these guys Asians are their adorable buddies in the Forever War against the Judeo-Negroid menace.

Pad Dar
Pad Dar

 There are no laws against being a racist. there are laws against ACTING OUT on racism.

Euro Heritage
Euro Heritage

 Asia for Asians, Africa for Africans, White countries for everyone????????Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will

be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY

into White countries.The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote

assimilating unquote with them.Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY White countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-Whites.What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the White race, Liberals and respectable conservatives will just say that I’m a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-White.Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

El Duderino
El Duderino

The Left is like a cheap piano with only 2 or 3 working keys.

Racism...war on women...class warfare...repeat

Boring.

Think up some new bigotry.

J Neo Marvin
J Neo Marvin

"Stop telling the truth about us! It's so BO-O-O-O-O-RING!"

Phila
Phila

"Racism...war on women...class warfare...repeat"

Fair enough. On behalf of the Left, I would like to apologize for viewing blacks as intellectually inferior, denying women access to legal healthcare products and procedures, and accusing all poor people of being feckless moochers who deserve to starve in the gutter.

Or alternatively, for accusing other people of doing all that stuff. I don't even know who's doing what at this point...I just know it's the Left's fault because of course it is.

Pad Dar
Pad Dar

 There is nothing wrong with being a bigot.

Daphne
Daphne

Let's let that speak for itself.

Phila
Phila

"There is nothing wrong with being a bigot."

Glad to hear it! I dislike white men. And anyone who's religious in any way, for any reason.

So...we're cool, right?

Al Swearengen
Al Swearengen

Yep, we force you idiots to bring it up all the fucking time.

mds
mds

 "Think up some new bigotry."

I have, but you guys refuse to move on from the classics.  If he had listened to me, Scott Walker could have been quietly signing legislation last week to require that people with hazel eyes wear funny hats, instead of repealing legal guarantees of equal pay for equal work.  And John Derbyshire could have written about unpalatable noises produced by undersea vents, instead of producing a list about how violent and stupid black people in general are.

Now, if you'll excuse me, we have to resume criticizing Paul Ryan's "trillions more in tax cuts for the rich, draconian service cuts for the poor" plan without mentioning class warfare, since it hurts your delicate feelings so.  Personally, I disapprove of his choice of font.

Vegacura
Vegacura

 Wait, I thought it was your responsibility to "think up some new bigotry."  It's the responsibility of "The Left" to call you on it.

Mr. Guest
Mr. Guest

Damn, but The Left is busy these days. All these responsibilities. No wonder he never calls anymore.

Daphne
Daphne

 Start practicing one and we'll simply point it out.

Substance McGravitas
Substance McGravitas

Only the most rabid racialist would say something negative about Derbyshire's warning to his kids to avoid heavily black neighborhoods.

Mama, don't let your babies grow up to be postmen.

Roy T.
Roy T.

Does being heavily black have anything to do with obesity stats?

kevinh
kevinh

"raaaaacist [is] the traditional rightblogger shorthand for false accusations of racism"

Point of rhetorical order: A word that has letters added to it cannot be logically called 'shorthand.'

Minstrel de Saussure
Minstrel de Saussure

 "raaaaacist" presumably replaces "false accusations of racism" and therefore is a shortening!

edroso
edroso

I take your point; even the addition of scare-quotes adds only two spacebands, whereas the extra a's add at least three. I would argue "raaaaacist" does obviate the need for a sarcastic remark that would communicate to readers, above and beyond the scare-quotes, how much contempt the author has for people who notice racism. This saves not only space but also the need to think up something clever, which for this bunch represents a very great saving indeed.

skookumjohn
skookumjohn

@edroso - Actually, "rayciss" works even better for this purpose.

repsac3
repsac3

I just wanna know who decided it had to be 5 "a"'s... 

raacistraaacistraaaacistraaaaacistraaaaaacist

(I mean, ok... 2 looks like a typo, and after 5, it just looks silly; but why not 3 or 4?)

Rosihanhadi
Rosihanhadi

I love all this white liberals with their phony outrage. I dare you to walk in a black neighborhood

Glennis Waterman
Glennis Waterman

 Just had some wonderful barbecue on West Adams this weekend. Very fine people.

Pad Dar
Pad Dar

 Been there, dont that and learned.You are right.

Guest
Guest

So my friend whose family had every one of their pets over a span of years abducted and killed by the little (white) sociopath next door, what of him? Should his family have said "living near white people is scary, let's move to Detroit"?

People I know have been robbed, vandalized, assaulted, raped, and murdered by whites. Where should I flee to?

Guest
Guest

Man, I've seen that movie "Ichi the Killer", no way am I going to that country.

Mr. Guest
Mr. Guest

I'm a white liberal. I *live* in a black neighborhood. I walk here every day.

It'll take more than that to get me to wet my pants.

Daphne
Daphne

 Does a mixed one qualify? I've lived in one nearly 13 years and never had the slightest problem with the race other than mine.  Evidence by anecdote, anyone? Mine's as good as yours.

KWillow
KWillow

I lived in Oakland CA, and rode the bus to work in Oakland, for 2 years. And not in the "posh" "Above McArthur" area either.

NO problems at all, ever.

doghouse
doghouse

Thats  the thing with the pathetic conservo's today, they are such pussies. Terrorists are scary!  They are being denied the right to live in a theocracy! War on Xmas! Jews are controlling the world! Obama will take our guns! Christ on a cross, grow some f'ing balls. The world is not as scary as your tiny little mind makes it.

Phila
Phila

Been doing that routinely for most of my life, thanks. It's really not as exciting as it sounds.

I dare you retire comfortably in a country run for the benefit of lily-white sociopaths in Adam Smith ties.

johnbonaccorsi1
johnbonaccorsi1

Actually, it doesn't sound that exciting.  It does sound dangerous, though.

Jennifer
Jennifer

As would be apparent to anyone with over a 25-watt IQ, the way people react to you is at least 50% determined by how you behave towards them.  Perhaps the reason white liberals are able to not only walk through but live in black neighborhoods is that they don't walk around looking terrified, they speak to people they pass in the street, & etc.  In other words, if you're looking at everyone around you with suspicion, they're going to notice and think "another one of those...." and perhaps treat you accordingly.  After all, no one wants to be around someone who obviously has a low opinion of them.  On the other hand, when you treat other people like people, that gets noticed as well and the interaction is likely to be much more pleasant.

To sum up:  if you start thinking of African Americans as people, too, and treat them accordingly, you'll no longer need to fear walking through a black neighborhood.

Daphne
Daphne

 Brilliant, Jen. A zillion "like"s if I could.

aiantisix
aiantisix

Wow- what a perfect representation of the worldview of the modern conservative. The very idea of walking in a black neighborhood is so terrifying that it has become a 'dare.' 

For the record, champ, many 'white liberals' aren't terrified at the prospect of taking a walk in a black neighborhood. Maybe it's because we live in racially mixed neighborhoods. Maybe we might even know a few folks who aren't white. Or who knows- maybe, dare I say it, we aren't virulent racists.

Mrs Tilton
Mrs Tilton

Walk in a black neighborhood? The author of this column used to live in one (and for all I know now lives in another one). Yet somehow he managed not to shit his pants about it on a daily basis.The strange mixture of venomous xenophobic hatred and abject, sphincter-spasming fear that is the hallmark of conservatives like Rosihanhadi is endlessly fascinating. And by "fascinating", I mean "simultaneously annoying and contemptible".

Pad Dar
Pad Dar

 Yeah, so? Good for him. Thats not the case for EVERYONE.

Daphne
Daphne

 in which Pad Dar makes the other side's case and may never realize it.

KWillow
KWillow

They believe their own propaganda.

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