Charges Dropped Against Scientology Executive Jan Eastgate

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Jan Eastgate [Photo: Daily Telegraph]
UPDATE: After the jump, Australian Senator Nick Xenophon's statement about this development -- and attorney Gráinne O'Donovan helps us understand Australian law on this matter.

Stunning news out of Australia -- the public prosecutor in New South Wales has suddenly dropped serious felony charges against Jan Eastgate and apparently has no plans to pursue further the allegation that she had coached an 11-year-old girl to lie about being sexually abused.

"I have always maintained my innocence," Eastgate told Australia's Daily Telegraph after the news broke Tuesday morning, Sydney time.

After the jump, we have a report from Today Tonight's Bryan Seymour. We're also trying to reach Steve Cannane, who originally broke the Eastgate story for ABC's Lateline.

From Seymour:

Eastgate was due to face a committal hearing in Sydney next month, followed by a trial in June.

The president of the Citizens Commission on Human Rights [a Scientology front group that agitates against psychiatry], Eastgate (real name Janice Wendy Eastgate Meyer), was last May charged with two counts of perverting the course of justice.

The charges relate to an incident involving a then 11-year-old girl named Carmen Rainer. She told her mother that she had been sexually abused by her stepfather. As the family were Scientologists they sought help at the Org in Sydney.

There they allege Eastgate told the little girl not to tell police what had happened or she and her brother would be taken away by social services. They further allege that Eastgate told Carmen's mother Phoebe to also deny the abuse to the police and to the Department of Community Services. The alleged reason for this was to avoid bad publicity for the Church of Scientology.

Carmen's stepfather Robert Kerr in 1999 turned himself in and admitted he indecently assaulted Carmen between the ages of 7 and 11.

Seymour sent along several links to past stories done by both him and Cannane about the story.

Cannane's Lateline piece. A Today Tonight program by Seymour, and one reporting Eastgate in court. And two Seymour shows with interviews about the Carmen Rainer story.

Seymour goes on to say...

Today, 11 months after Eastgate was arrested and charged, the Public Prosecutor in New South Wales dropped the charges.

Incredibly, I've learned the reason for this is that the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions, DPP, supposedly did not realise that the charges were not in existence at the time the alleged offence occurred in 1985.

I spoke today with Carmen Rainer who said she was given the impression that the authorities have no plans to find the 'right' charge for the alleged offences and that they plan to simply drop the whole matter and 'forget about it.'

I am waiting for Public Prosecutor Lindy Coyle to call me or e-mail with her reasons.

I've also sent Coyle a list of questions about the case. If I hear something, I'll update this post.

The Daily Telegraph in Sydney included a statement from Eastgate in its story tonight...

Now based in Los Angeles where she counts Tom Cruise and John Travolta among her friends, Ms Eastgate released a statement to The Daily Telegraph.

"I have always maintained my innocence," Ms Eastgate said.

She has worked overseas since 1993.

"This outcome means I can concentrate on my work to assist people in need of help both in Australia and overseas through the Citizens Commission on Human Rights, a group that investigates psychiatric-pharmaceutical conflicts of interest and human rights abuse," Ms Eastgate said.


UPDATE: Just heard from ABC's Steve Cannane, who says he is busy working up a story about this for tonight's broadcast. He sent along this statement from Anna Cooper, media liaison of the New South Wales Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions...

"This matter was withdrawn because there was no reasonable prospect of conviction on any charge. The ODPP will not make any further comment."

Also, a final thought from Seymour:

The fact remains that the allegations have not been tested in court. This is not an outcome -- it is not a court decision -- it is a complete withdrawal from the case by the DPP.

As it stands we now have Jan Eastgate's word against the word of Carmen Rainer, her mother Phoebe, and former Scientologist Carmel Underwood, who claimed to have witnessed Eastgate coaching Carmen to lie to the police.

After following this story for eighteen months, along with Lateline reporter Steve Canane at the ABC, (who broke this story), I am curious to know why this has happened.


UPDATE: We have Steve Cannane's script for the show he did about this development. It includes a statement by independent federal senator Nick Xenophon...

Carmen Rainer was raised in a Scientology family.

Between eight and eleven she was abused by her stepfather Robert Alexander Kerr.

In allegations first aired on Lateline Carmen Rainer said the prominent Scientologist Jan Eastgate told her to lie to police and community services workers about the sexual abuse

Carmen Rainer, former Scientologist, May 2010: "Just say no. She kept repeating that, 'Just remember you can't tell them. Don't say yes because otherwise you will be taken away from your parents and you will never see your family again' because DOCS will take me and my brother away from my mum and that I needed to just say no."

Carmen Rainer's allegations were backed by her mother.

Phoebe Rainer, former Scientologist: "She came with us to the interview she basically told me what to say and Carmen what to say and she also told Carmen to lie to the police and I lied to the police as well because of that."

Jan Eastgate is the international head of the Citizen's Commission on Human Rights an organisation founded by the Church of Scientology to campaign against psychiatry.

Jan Eastgate has refused to talk to Lateline. She has consistently denied Carmen Rainer's allegations describing them as 'egregiously false'.

In May last year she was arrested and charged with perverting the court of justice.

Two months ago she was charged with another related offence. She was due to face court again next month.

But today the office of NSW Director of Public Prosecutions announced they were withdrawing charges against Jan Eastgate saying there was no reasonable prospect of a conviction.

Carmen Rainer: "I just was shocked. I didn't know what to think I didn't know what to say. I said nothing."

In 2010 Senator Nick Xenophon went to the police station with Carmen Rainer to make a statement about this matter. [Cut to: Xenophon today.]

Senator Nick Xenophon: "Look, this is just an extraordinary turn of events. These matters are before the courts for a number of months, a second set of charges is laid just a few weeks ago, and then suddenly it's all abandoned. Carmen Rainer deserves an explanation from the DPP, because she has been understandably left devastated by what has occurred."

The Office of the DPP would not give specific reasons as to why the charges were withdrawn. Carmen Rainer says she was told by a DPP lawyer there was not a law against perverting the course of justice in 1985.

Carmen Rainer: "The reason that she gave me was the charges they had given her were the wrong charges and that was because they charged her with the new law instead of the old law it happened in 1985 the new law came in in 1990."

Carmen Rainer also says the DPP's office told her them it didn't help her case that the NSW Police could not find the police who took her original statement .

In a statement released today Jan Eastgate said, "I have always maintained my innocence, having had an exemplary career for more than 30 years dedicated to serving the community and families as well as championing human rights. This outcome means I can concentrate on my work to assist people in need of help both in Australia and overseas through the Citizens Commission on Human Rights, a group that investigates psychiatric-pharmaceutical conflicts of interest and human rights abuse."

When I read Jan Eastgate's statement to Carmen Rainer she broke down...

Carmen Rainer: "I'm worried that now people are going to think that it's OK to tell children to lie to the police, that people can get away with sexual abuse, sexually abusing children."

Jan Eastgate says she will continue her work with the CCHR.

Steve Cannane
Lateline


My take: It's hard to believe that coaching an 11-year-old girl to lie to police about being sexually molested was not a felony under Australian law in 1985. So the question I'd like answered is why the DPP was unable to refile these charges after they discovered they had filed them incorrectly. It will be interesting to see if Xenophon or Cannane or Seymour -- or Rainer herself -- can get an answer to that question.


UPDATE: Perth attorney Gráinne O'Donovan answers our question about the law. She says she was interviewed by Cannane, but time constraints kept her out of the piece. Here's what she just sent me...

In 1985 it was a criminal offence in New South Wales to conspire to pervert the course of justice. That is the charge that should have been laid. The decision to lay charges under the 1990 statute was a fundamental mistake one might expect from a law student, but not from a practising lawyer.

Some months ago, Carmen was given a list of names of witnesses that the police could not locate. I spent less than half an hour with the aid of Google and whitepages online and had one of those witnesses at the other end of the phone. I had another within hours. I provided that information to the prosecution at the time. Naturally, that dented my confidence in the adequacy of the investigation.


UPDATE: O'Donovan now points me to this new article that just showed up at Australia's The Telegraph, which reports that police felt pressured by Xenophon to investigate a crime they were apparently not very interested in probing.

Wow.

New South Wales police and prosecutors really seem a bit confused here. As journalists Cannane and Seymour showed, there were multiple witnesses who all were willing to testify that a senior executive in the Church of Scientology, in order to spare the church bad publicity, allegedly coached a little girl to lie to police about the years of sexual abuse she'd endured at the hands of her Scientologist stepfather -- a man who admitted to that crime.

If the Pope himself had brought Carmen Rainer by the hand down to the police station in Sydney, and asked police there to investigate the obstruction of justice charge that she was alleging, why -- will someone please explain to me -- would police complain in any form that they were being asked to investigate the crime?

And why, as O'Donovan has explained, would police then have so little interest that they wouldn't do the most simple searching for witnesses, and why would prosecutors commit a rookie error on charges, and then simply give up rather than refile those charges?

The incompetence here is stunning -- whether or not you believe that Jan Eastgate was guilty of a crime, Carmen Rainer surely deserved better from the police and prosecutors of New South Wales.


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Morning
Morning

Well here is the question I don't see anyone answering: why the HELL are both of the parents not being jailed for this?!!! If someone shows up on the doorstep of the police saying the parents knew why weren't they the first ones to be tried and jailed?   If a mother finds out her child is being abused she should take immediate action to get the child out of harms way and kick the monster in the teeth and call the cops. Otherwise she is just as guilty as he is Come on it's easy to pass the buck but the parents are the main culprits in this case. I smell a "setup" here frankly. Why bother going after people "involved" only and not including the parents? If it was dropped it is most likely due to the girl not pressing charges against her parents (which shows she is sick and desperately needs help) or it was all a setup for the great God money and notoriety. Chareges are only dropped when they are false or there is some valid reason for not pressing the issue.  I am tired of seeing sensational news where once again, parents knew but never said anything or faced the music for their neglect and crimes. Not sticking up for any church or members here, don't care about them, but really Village Voice is this the best you can do? If stuff like this does occur how about seeing real justice done and the direct family members who knew or did this get tried first. Let's put the blame on who it actually belongs to. As someone who has dealt with this exact subject I am amazed at how many of these kids suffer from Stockholm syndrome and will point the finger at anyone except the people directly involved. Go ask this girl the question why she doesn't prosecute her parents first and THEN publish that. And if church members knew about it they can be called as witnesses to the stand where they are under oath to tell the truth and can be dealt with there.  

Pedro Juarez
Pedro Juarez

When Justic is but a word and only really avaliable to the rich , informuse and devilish in this caotic world With our pens sharpened will we not put an end to there swords and guns etc......

Elizabethan
Elizabethan

Not to forget Lisa McPherson's accident. Their ethics and justice tech should be exposed for it's dangerousness.

Elizabethan
Elizabethan

What a story and thanks for your diligence. Carmen certainly deserved better than that. Incompetence to be sure. A pox on the police and prosecutors of New South Wales. Bad, bad!

Tye Solaris
Tye Solaris

There is something queer going on 'Down Under'...

The 'Eastgate Affair' is redolent with the backstage handling of the COS... and with the final 'White Wash' of headlines proclaiming Eastgate is Cleared of all Charges...

Very queer indeed.

Unex Skcus
Unex Skcus

I feel gutted. The head of the DPP should be fired.

KeepOnLearning
KeepOnLearning

By the Australian prosecutor's own admission, Meyers-Eastgate was charged with  "a crime that did not exist."

This only proves how much public tax money an unethical and self-serving politician can waste by trumping up charges and suborning witnesses in his own course of self-aggrandizement. 

Xenophon is only out for his own McCarthy-style of persecution. Since he can't today go after Communists, he picks on Scientologists. If Scientologists were stronger and more numerous, Xenophobe would pick on Rosicrucians or Wiccans. 

Snakes need the traction of others to slither uphill.

RadioPaul1
RadioPaul1

Check Operation Clambake for the current petition info to RECHARGE JAN EASTGATE

Too Much
Too Much

MARK BUNKER: Please check your Facebook messages from me, the address and phone numbers fort he individual you asked about are in the last email I sent and I did not yet get confirmation from you. The man may have some insight in to what happened here and my take is that because of his age it would be very good if you could talk with him about the previous matter and ask if he "is aware of the Eastgate matter," I think he might have known the family here.

magikcarrot
magikcarrot

 Reading this and the Debbie cook story. Guttered! 

 Beware! Scientology is a dark, black star who enjoys the idea of Rockspiders.

LoyalOfficer
LoyalOfficer

Either they are drinking waayy to much Fosters, are a group of lazy incompetents, or the "Church" got to them. Photographs of the DPP with a donkey, the police chief being hung from the ceiling by his nipples or they simply paid them off. It simply makes me ill. How Eastgate talks about "human right" while either covering up or fomenting such abuses.  Hopefully there will be enough of a public outcry that proper charges will be brought and those who investigate will not have the walls of their rectums blocking their sight. 

Too Much
Too Much

Once again a Scientology ringleader escapes prison and justice fails.

Drwomb
Drwomb

How many times is this crap going to happen before anti-scienos realize that ex-scienos are stupid people?

Ever notice how ex-scieno claims always get dismissed?  Remember Marc and Claire Headely and their lawsuit?  Anti-scienos were foaming at the mouth with excitement about it.  Then it got dismissed presuit in its entirety.  Then you have those Australian ex-scienos who claimed they were used as slave labor.  Remeber that? The Australian Fair Work Obudsman dismissing each and every claim. Then you got Debbie Cook, who claims she was tortured into accepting $100,000.  Oh, that makes a lot of sense.  I can't go anywhere anymore without someone beating me up and shoving wads of cash into my pockets

And now you have Jan Eastgate.  I can't tell you how many times I've read anti-scienos accuse her of all kinds of crimes, depsite having a complete lack of knowledge.  Apparently, if an ex-scieno says something, it is automatically true.  Ex-scieno claims are the gospel of anti-scientology.  They are to be believed upon utternace and without question, even if their claims require all kinds of mental gymnastics.  Thankfully, are legal systems probe further and don't blindly believe ex-scieno claims simply because an ex-scieno utters words.

And when an outsider points out how anti-scienos sheepishly rely upon unsworn claims from bitter ex-scienos, anti-scienos respond with vitriol and paranoia.  If you questions anti-scientology gospel, then that means you are a scientologist.  It's that cultish "us vs them" mentality.  If you aint with "us" then you must be one of "them."  I can already forsee several comments to this post accusing me of being a scieno simply because I criticize scientology, which only serves to prove my point that anti-scienos accuse any critical outsider of being ONE OF THEM!

The truth is that scientology and anti-scientology are only attractive to stupid, sheepish, and paranoid people.  You know, people who want to be part of something.  People who think they are special because they know "the truth" while the rest of the world remains ignorant.  The "truth" is that most people realize that accepting scientology and anti-scientology are bad ideas.  

If you are ever wondering who would be stupid enough to join up with something as objectively dumb as scientology, then look no further than an anti-scieno.  It's like two rival fraternities competiting over the same small, select group of students for membership. 

1subgenius
1subgenius

Let's begin a list of reasons given for dropping the charges: politically motivated, can't find police who took the original report, wrong statute, no reasonable prospect of conviction. There will be more.

1subgenius
1subgenius

"Carmen Rainer also says the DPP's office told her them it didn't help her case that the NSW Police could not find the police who took her original statement ."

Elle
Elle

People were paid off and/or intimidated. But the truth is now out there. Eastgate's personal reputation and that of the "Church" of Scientology will be seriously damaged for any who care enough to read the story.( Unfortunately the reputation of law enforcement in Australia has also been thrown into disrepute.) Each story like this gnaws away at the foundation of the cult.

jensting
jensting

.. Oh, and proper judges can pursue a court case without the public prosecutor, in decent jurisdictions :) (Recent French case involving former senior politicians where the public prosecutor pleaded in vain for the trial to be dropped.)

jensting
jensting

Suggest Freedom of Information queries about public bodies accepting "charity" from the criminal organisation known as the "church" of $cientology.

It sounds outlandish, for sure, but in England, the Co$ entertained senior police personnel from the City of London Police shortly before a senior officer appeared as a speaker at the opening of the London Idle Morgue and some time before "Epic Nose Guy" was cautioned for calling the Co$ a cult.

So, did any of the numerous front organisations of the criminal organisation known as the "church" of $cientology spend any money on the police or any other public body in New South Wales since the Rainers quit $cientology, I wonder?

RadioPaul1
RadioPaul1

PROPOSED PETITION to demand the recharging of Jan Eastgate.I would like others feedback, wording, spelling and thoughts of what is a good petition site that this might fit on as well as a good way to circulate it?

We the undersigned are informing the  Australia - New South Wales - Prosecutors Office that we demand justice for victim Carmen Rainer. The Prosecutors Office publicly dropped charges of "Perverting the Course of Justice" against Ms. Jan Eastgate Myers on or about the 23rd of April 2012 for her alleged involvement of covering up the sexual abuse of Ms. Rainer when she was a minor in 1985. We the undersigned find the excuses for dropping the charges by the Prosecutors Office and refusing to recharge unexceptable for the following reasons.

1. It has been stated that the law Ms. Eastgate was charged with did not exists in 1985. It is well known that there are laws on the books that do cover this time period that would cover an appropriate charge. 

2. That witnesses needed to pursue the case are not able to be located by the police. This has been proven to be false. An article in the Village Voice date 24th of April 2012 show that the individuals were tracked down by common google searches and reached within an hour of looking. 

3. This case is of importance to the victim and to the public at large. The victim has broken down in an emotional state in front of rolling TV cameras when learning of the failure of your offices to peruse to this matter. It also sets the dangerous precedence of letting victims know that there is no point in reporting abuse or those that coached them to remain quite prior to the date of what law you referred to in dropping this case.

4. There was a clear case to charge Ms. Eastgate in the first place and that the state felt it could get a conviction based on the original case. It was stated that due to the technicality of law she was charged with and the now proven to be debunked excuse of not reaching witnesses that the charges were dropped. Being that nothing has changed about the validity of the charges and that the potential witness list has been strengthened, there is no reason for your offices not to recharge Ms. Eastgate.

It is for these reasons that we the undersigned demand that the New South Wales - Prosecutors Office recharge Ms. Jan Eastgate Myers with appropriate charges for this case and let justice run its course.

RadioPaul1
RadioPaul1

The only response I can give to this is (do something about it). If you have not taken action on things like educating the Board of Supervisors and PD in Santa Ana CA about Scientology, taken action to educate local, state and federal health agencies about how Narconon was just shut down in Canada or all the other things you could be doing, then shame on you.

Yes Carman deserves justice and I hope she can take this up in civil court. I also believe public pressure might get the state to re-charge Jan Eastgate with the correct law but it will take a lot of work. 

Hey OSA, how does it feel to know that you are helping making it safe for child abusers to clear the planet of the evil Psychs? 

To everyone reading this, Scientology hates scrutiny, because like a vampire, it needs to do its deeds in the dark and the light will kill it. THe only way you can keep the light on this bloodsucker is to email, write, speak to as many people as you can on this subject.

I think organizations that cover rape victims in Australia would like to know what happened here.

Victoriapandora
Victoriapandora

Off Topic, Debbie Cook has settled with COS. Saw it on Marty's site.

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

Rage...yep. Tom (big nose) Cruise probably promised a life time of free assists, if they let Beastgate off.

She is still guilty in the eyes of the public, just like OJ Simpson.

Gerard Plourde
Gerard Plourde

Curiously, it appears that the CCHR was involved in an investigation of the late medical director of a private psychiatric hospital in New South Wales. A Royal Commission was established by the NSW government and was active in the period of 1988-1990. In the 1970's and 1980s the hospital was experimenting with a treatment called Deep Sleep Therapy that involved long term sedation of patients and using electroconvulsive therapy on them. It's reported that twenty-four patients died. The doctor committed suicide in 1985 and left a note blaming scientology. I wonder if Eastgate has friends in the NSW constabulary as a result of this investigation of an admittedly horrible but aberrant situation.

sketto
sketto

Let's all note that "I have always maintained my innocence" is not the same thing as "I am innocent".

Chocolate Velvet
Chocolate Velvet

This is not a surprise, but it still makes my heart ache and my stomach hurt. What a slap in the face to the victim.

The cops felt used? For being asked to investigate an ugly crime? Ultimately, what does it matter about "political" motivations? Let the politicians answer for that, and focus on conducting a thorough investigation that produces a credible outcome. If the accusations have merit, law enforcement should pursue them, regardless of "why" the crime was brought to light. Sounds like utter bullshit to me.

andreagarnet
andreagarnet

@Morning  Spoken like the hardcore $cientologist you are. The wool is not pulled over our eyes.

goku123
goku123

@KeepOnLearning

CRIMES ACT 1900 - SECT 319 General offence of perverting the course of justice 319 General offence of perverting the course of justice

person who does any act, or makes any omission, intending in any way to pervert the course of justice, is liable to imprisonment for 14 years.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/ca190082/s319.html

It's quite sad that you wish to defend someone who covered up the rape of a small child and even worse that you wish to defend an organization that has patterns of abuse and criminal behavior. 

Billy Bob
Billy Bob

You are right about one thing -

Scientology  IS very, very small, and getting smaller every day.

Yup, Scientology is a tiny little midget cult, it's active membership dwindling in a downward spiral.

Oh, and snakes get traction from their ventral (belly) scales, so that metaphor of yours is ridiculous.  Try studying real Science!

bobx
bobx

The crime of perverting the course of justice did exist, and Eastgate appears (from the unrebutted statements) to be plainly guilty of it.  The prosecutors admitted to captioning the charge with a citation to an amended statute rather than the statute in force at the time, which is an irrelevancy.

Your comments about snakes, however, is certainly apt.

Unex Skcus
Unex Skcus

What a load of crap. Just because we in Oz also have incompetent lawyers, unfortunately working in a public capacity at the DPP, does not mean that Zenophon is "unethical and self-serving", nor that Eastgate is innocent, nor that Carmen Rainer was lying when she claimed that Eastgate pressured her to lie to police.

H_Jentzsch
H_Jentzsch

You're an idiot.  Get your head out of your ass.

jensting
jensting

Not only were the statements not sworn in court, from the alleged victim, the victim's mother an from a third ex-victim of the criminal organisation known as the "church" of $cientology, but  Janice Meyer aka Jan Eastgate did not get a chance to clear (haha) her name in court!

I assume you'll be encouraging everyone to sign the petition for Janice Meyer aka Jan Eastgate's case to be taken up again so that she can get her day in court and the facts presented to the jury! After all, the press is no place to treat matters of this level of importance.

Or, even better, Janice Meyer aka Jan Eastgate could sue the Rainers for making nasty statements about her to the press. That would be very $cientological.

Sid
Sid

"The truth is that scientology and anti-scientology are only attractive to stupid, sheepish, and paranoid people."

So what attracted you to this website then?

"You know, people who want to be part of something."

Yes, I think I know the sort.

"People who think they are special because they know "the truth" while the rest of the world remains ignorant."

Thank you for telling us "the truth", oh special one.

LoyalOfficer
LoyalOfficer

I don't think you are a $cientologist, your grammar was ok and you didn't misspell any words.  I think you are an asshole. 

Drwomb
Drwomb

Do you have facts to support your generic and vague claim of bribery, or are you just talking out of the side of your mouth with absolutely no basis in fact?  I'm thinking the latter.

bobx
bobx

The Anglo-American common law (Australia is also based on this system) does not allow judges to act as advocates for either side.  Without a prosecutor, there is no criminal case.

Unex Skcus
Unex Skcus

1. There certainly were laws... the wording was just a bit different. The DPP f*cked that up unbelievably.

2. The police here are having probs with an escalation of gun crimes - something we don't have as much of usually as in the US, so police resources have been politically diverted. Co$ is not exactly mega on the vast majority of Aussies' radar.

3. "...there is no point in reporting abuse..." a valid point, despite the fact that us Aussies see ourselves as giving everyone a "fair go". Doesn't always happen, sadly.

4. Yes, so we will wait to hear why the DPP did not automatically instigate the correct charges. The DPP's "no comment" as to their decision to drop the charges is unsatisfactory.

I for one hope that public pressure can force a re-charge and subsequent trial. Then 'evidence', either way, can be judged... not only by the judiciary, but also by the force known as "common law".

Elle
Elle

Exactly. infiltration of the police and prosecutor's office occurred to me too.

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

Getting off on a technicality does not make her innocent of the crime.

JAN MEYER EASTGATE IS JUST ANOTHER DIRTY STAIN ON SCIENTOLOGY.

Geez, scientology has accumulated so many dirty stains not even a Chinese laundryman can take them out, and they're the best at the trade.

hgc
hgc

It's politician-speak:  as in, "I have always said..." Language intended to obfuscate and confuse. 

RadioPaul1
RadioPaul1

Nor does it mean those things are true. It means that there was enough to charge Jan, that has not changed, it was a technicality that she got off on. If you really want to prove her innocence, I suggest you support her being recharged so she can have her day in court and prove it. 

Drwomb
Drwomb

I was just pointing out the obvious that everyone else in the world seems to get except for scieno and anti-scieno sheep.

N. Graham
N. Graham

Sorry, but there WERE misspellings and incorrect plurals, but you are correct, there were so many fewer errors than the typical Scientologist that this would indicate he is merely an asshole.

Drwomb
Drwomb

Think whatever you want.  But my point remains the same, ex-scienos are full of crap and their crazy tales never materialize in the courtroom.  It's just nothing more than unsworn delusional crap that anti-scienos believe as infallable gospel.

bobx
bobx

The prosecutors are telling several lies.  Referring to a later statute rather than the earlier statute was a simple matter of amending the charge, not a fatal flaw.  They stated that witnesses could not be located, which was untrue, and in particular that policemen could not be located, which is absurd.  And they stated that it would be impossible to get a conviction, when it would in fact be difficult to find a random sample of 12 who would not be appalled at the facts here.  This level of dishonesty raises a strong presumption that they have been corrupted in some manner.  If they do not wish to be perceived as "on the take", they will need to offer much better explanations of what has happened.  I doubt very much their position of "we will have no further comment" is going to last long.

1subgenius
1subgenius

"Getting off on a technicality does not make her innocent of the crime."Quite true, just as a "Not Guilty" verdict. There is no "Innocent" verdict.

sketto
sketto

Quite true. I am always intrigued by this little element of us humans, though. Even pure a bullshit artist (say for example, LRon Hubbard) will always prefer to be deceptive with true statements than with pure lies. It's just harder for us to maintain 100% pure lies than it is to slip true, but dishonest, items into our conversation.

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