Sunday Funnies: LRH Gets an Answer from Tricky Dick!

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We've shuffled up our schedule a bit here in the underground bunker -- it was either that, or the cats would be dining on our corpse with the klaxons going off for weeks before we were discovered. Now that things are a bit more relaxed, we can take in the past week with a Sunday morning warm beverage and only a hint of tying one on last night.

The most fun we had this past week, of course, was sharing with you a few key segments from this year's big L. Ron Hubbard Birthday Event. There were so many great moments. But clearly, the most stunning utterance of the night came from LRH official biographer Dan Sherman, who said that in late 1945, Hubbard personally stopped Richard Nixon and a gang of atomic scientists from overthrowing the U.S. government with nuclear weapons.

So taken aback were we by that claim, we contacted the Richard Nixon Foundation, and yes, we got a reply!

We sent a detailed description of what happened at the Birthday Event, along with a link to our story to Jonathan Movroydis, the media relations guy at the Foundation. Here's what he was good enough to send back...

Hi Tony -

I hope all is well and it's great to hear from you. We too think the suggestion is ridiculous. It doesn't deserve a serious comment.

Best,

Jonathan

For some reason, that just tickles us no end.

There was another interesting development coming out of the Birthday Event post, and we'll get into that after we check in with our Funnies and Comments of the Week...

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Scientology Sunday Funnies!

Just about every day, we receive the latest wacky and tacky fundraising mailers put out by Scientology orgs around the world. Thank you, tipsters, for forwarding them to us! On Sundays, we love to reveal them to you.

And this was a new one on us. We're so used to Hubbardism presented as a "science," it's jarring to see it couched in such different terms for this event next week at the Fort Harrison Hotel: "The Magic of OT: Telling the history of the Magi, through their evolution through the Masons and onto OT and regaining their power through our tech."

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I asked Jefferson Hawkins for his thoughts on this flier equating Scientology with "magic" and the Biblical Magi...

You've got me there, this sounds just like a bunch of crazy talk. I don't recall anything in official literature or Hubbard's works that makes these odd connections.

Mike Fine is a salesman -- what they call a "reg" (registrar). So he's gathering them together to sell them something, and is trying to come up with something that will interest them enough to show up -- which is always a challenge. Sometimes they will hold a "seminar" about "how to improve your business" or "how to make it in the arts." Mike is going the route of "OT strangeness." Scientologists like this sort of woo-woo conspiracy stuff, these occult connections, so probably they will show up and he'll give them some sort of talk cobbled together from conspiracy books and websites and then sell them Freewinds services.

Thank you for that assessment, Jeff.

Now, on to more Freewinds fun...

Billy Sheehan is still alive? Billy Sheehan is still in Scientology? Billy Sheehan will show me how to maximize social media so my garage band can go platinum? I am so there!

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This next flier came with an interesting message from a tipster...

Someone sent me this from the Chicago Scientology e-mailing list. It's a success story of Chicago Scientologists who re-did the Objectives. You know, that's the course where someone orders you around physically -- "Touch that wall, thank you, pick up that book, thank you..."

I had heard rumblings starting maybe a year ago that Scientologists were being made to re-do hundreds of hours of Objectives, but it's one thing to hear it and another to see hard evidence of it. Even OT's and other high-level members are redoing this very basic course near the very bottom of the Bridge.

The rumor as I heard it is that everyone had been groovy with the "old" Objectives, except at some point, it was supposedly "discovered" that Ron himself had supposedly spent dozens or hundreds of hours himself on this course. And then that sent a mini-shockwave through staff, because if regular people were completing Objectives in "only" 10 hours or so, how were they getting through Scientology faster than Ron? So it was supposed that anyone who had done it in the past like that, and had not taken freaking forever in the process, had been "quickied," and their completion of the course now considered suspect or outright invalid.

What say you, crowd? Have you heard about this as well? And here's the flier... (We apologize for the poor quality. Click to enlarge, but it's still tough to make out the fine print.)

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Remember to keep those mailers and fliers coming, tipsters!

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Commenters of the Week!

We started off the week with a blast -- we revealed the promotional video for RON the Encyclopedia! We learned that L. Ron Hubbard lived life from the top down and the bottom up, and we're still recovering from that thought.

We have to admit it -- we love it when a commenter connects the dots between our present and past stories. In this case, Llama cleverly reminded us about a ban on Scientology books being upheld in Moscow...

I guess they could have saved some money by skipping the Russian translation of the Encyclopedia!

We also enjoy our prominent ex-Scientologists who let us know how they're thinking. Like this gem from Larry Brennan...

Good Lord, watching that video makes me want to put a bag over my head as I sit here completely embarrassed that I ever believed this man on any subject.

On Monday, we had an intriguing follow-up to our expose on Scientology's "Writers of the Future" contest -- we learned that sci-fi author Carl Frederick has cancelled his invitation to participate in this year's workshops after reading our story.

Our readers -- such as Scientia -- had strong feelings about his decision...

Carl, you should be applauded. A difficult decision, but an ethical one. There are many incredibly decent people in (or connected to) the "church", but the bottom line is that their allegiance funds and supports an abusive organisation whose management has no respect for the most basic of human rights. No ifs, no buts, just a simple reality that those still involved (in whatever capacity) will eventually have to confront. Well done.

And this one from frequent commenter Chocolate Velvet...

Too often, there are a lot of "good reasons" not to do the right thing. Especially when it involves sacrificing something you value as a resource. I applaud these writers for refusing to gloss over the troubling facts in this situation. Hopefully, it is the beginning of a trend.

We were also touched when we saw that Carl Frederick himself responded...

I appreciate all your kind words -- and am moved by them. They make my lonely decision far less lonely. But the words might have been too kind. I merely, very politely perhaps even timidly, disengaged myself from the contest.

On Tuesday, we reported that a new fence had appeared at Scientology's Int Base in California, which made us wonder about "the Hole" being moved now that it's become the stuff of news reports and court testimony. But more importantly, we used the opportunity to post some amazing new photos of the base taken by Sinar Parman from a helicopter -- thank you, Sinar!

After giving readers a pretty good view of the entire base, we asked for thoughts on where the residents of "the Hole" might be moved to. Gerard Plourde considered several suggestions by other readers and then made this reasoned analysis...

I think that the berthing unit is the most likely. It doesn't require a move off base which could prompt a break by someone (although that's admittedly unlikely in light of their mental state). The building could have the same surveillance capability as is believed to exist at Hacienda Gardens. A move to Australia would require valid passports and visas. This is definitely too risky. While the Freewinds idea is intriguing the number of people to be housed could be a problem (although if cruises aren't selling out there might be enough space to house and segregate the prisoners). The question here is what is the Freewinds' home port? If she's mostly berthed in the Curaçao the passport issue arises again.

And we were thrilled to see Jefferson Hawkins contribute his thoughts about the base, a place he remembers well...

Tony, what a creepy way to start my day! These photos bring back a lot of memories, none of them pleasant. There is not one area of that Base that does not trigger memories of abuse - being thrown in the lake, being forced to run around the buildings as punishment, having one's "crimes" read out to the assembled crew. Despite the green grass, it is a grim and forbidding place. The undeveloped area around the Old Gilman House has always been used as a detention camp. If one was "confined to the Base," this was where one would live, crammed into seedy trailers rigged out as dormitories and doing physical labor such as clearing the grounds. I spent many months out there. The thought that they have apparently built a detention compound within the detention compound gives me the willies. My only guess is that it would be a sort of "RPF's RPF" where the worst of the hard cases would be housed. As to "where is the Hole now," in a sense, the imprisoned executives could be anywhere -- the entire Base is a secure compound, with razor wire, lights, cameras, motion detectors and security guards. When I was there, most of the staff lived in apartment complexes in Hemet, about 8 miles away, and would be transported to the Base in buses, The "Berthing" complex was built so that all staff would live and work within the fenced Base - better control. So the executives could live in the Berthing dormitories and be marched around the Base by guards. Interesting to me that the old Running Program track has gone to seed and is no more. Here's the significance of that: the "Running Program," or "Cause Resurgence Rundown," is part of Super Power. In fact, the upper floor of the Super Power Building in Clearwater is devoted to a big circular track for that purpose. Well, the whole Super Power Program was originally designed for staff and Sea Org Members, to make them super-duper OTs. That the track is no longer used means that Miscavige has given up on the whole Super Power thing for its intended recipients, staff. Why? Maybe because it didn't work? Yet even so, they will continue to promote it and eventually sell it to public Scientologists, even though they've apparently given up on it at the Base as a failed program.

And on Friday, we posted some revealing moments from this year's big L. Ron Hubbard Birthday Event that was held on March 10 at Ruth Eckerd Hall in Clearwater, Florida. Highlights included some wonderful tall tales told by the Commodore himself!

At the end of the three-hour ceremony, church leader David Miscavige appeared to promise that the Super Power Building -- the church's new "Mecca" -- would open "before summer dawns," which implies that it would open its doors before June 21. But the man's way of speaking was clear as mud, and we asked readers to chime in with their own interpretations of his announcement. TheHoleDoesNotExist differed with our assessment...

Okay, about that Super Power grand opening...I listened again (damn you, Tony) and definitely don't think he was still referring to a dawn of summer timeline for the "Mecca," but just a couple orgs. If you look at the Oh f*ck expression on his face when the crowd bursts in disbelief and rapture, I think he realizes his screw up. Hell, I was already working on the party.

And finally, we have to give Ivy Mapother credit for practically making us spit up a cold drink all over ourselves with this note about the re-enactment videos starring an actor as Hubbard whose face we never quite see...

The actor's portrayal of L. Ron Hubbard was spot on perfect. I've never seen anyone capture the back of his head with such purpose and style. Who ever that actor was, he'll be sure to add a couple of the back-of-the-head photos in his head shot portfolio. Millions of Scientologists from across the planet will bump into him and say "Didn't you portray LRH's backside? You look just like his backside. Would you mind turning around so I can get a photo of me and your backside?"

Stop it, Ivy, yer killing us.

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Rathbun Replies

As promised, we wanted to come back to the response to the Birthday Event post because we really didn't see this one coming: Marty Rathbun not only linked to our Birthday Event post, he then doubled down and wrote about it in an even more surprising manner.

We know how some of you feel about Rathbun, who until 2004 was the second-highest ranking official in Scientology and for years had overseen its retaliation programs on defectors and critics, some of whom are still livid about what he did. We understand that. We get that. (And we know we'll hear all about it in the comments.)

However, we find it remarkable that Rathbun first recommended that his "indie" readers come to our blog to read a post that didn't make L. Ron Hubbard look very good (largely, we have to say, through the old man's own words, not ours). But then, Rathbun's follow-up post went much further. For the first time, he's written at length about the church's battle with Gerry Armstrong.

Armstrong was a longtime Scientologist who had been entrusted to research documents of Hubbard's life to be turned over to a writer for an authorized biography. But when Armstrong saw how much the official record contrasted with what Hubbard and the church had been saying about his past, he tried to get church officials to correct the church's public record and for his troubles was expelled from Scientology.

He took those documents with him, and was then sued by the church. Rathbun is now saying that it was obvious to him, to Miscavige, and to the church's attorneys that Armstrong was right -- that official documents did show Hubbard to be an inveterate tall-tale teller, and that it would all come out if they didn't settle with Armstrong:

The attorneys - and their back up staff - did everything in their power, short of being dragged out of court for defying court orders, to keep a lid on the evidence admitted. They also did an admirable job of attempting to discredit the witnesses and evidence they entered.

But, in the end their prognosis turned out to be quite conservative. The judge issued a ruling about Hubbard who of course was not there, finding as a matter of fact that he was a "pathological liar" and "paranoid" and "schizophrenic." Not only did L Ron Hubbard's life history get annihilated by the world wide media - it continued to be for thirty years, with only lame denials in response, as Gerry Armstrong was right all along in this respect: the church had little to no to counter documentation for the claims the church had loudly trumpeted about L Ron Hubbard's life.

Again, we know there are plenty of people who won't give Rathbun any credit for these utterances, but as a longtime Scientology watcher who has been on the case since 1995, for us these words are almost as surprising as when we heard that Rathbun and fellow former high-ranking executive Mike Rinder had defected, and then were talking to the St. Pete Times. Why? Well, one of the key, bedrock principles of official Scientology is that it considers every word Hubbard wrote about Dianetics and Scientology and himself -- millions of words -- to be sacred, unalterable, law. With posts like this, Rathbun is announcing that in the independent movement -- at least the indie movement he favors -- there will be a more realistic assessment of Hubbard's tall tales (if still a fervent embrace of his "tech"). Also, to see Rathbun write those words -- Armstrong was right -- seems like a remarkable forward step.

We e-mailed Gerry yesterday afternoon, but unfortunately we haven't heard back from him yet. When we do, We'll add his thoughts to this post and make a note about it at our Facebook author page. (Which, we'll point out again, we're using for announcements about schedules and upcoming blog posts.)


UPDATE: Gerry Armstrong did send me a response which I'll put up here...

Unfortunately, and as others have commented on your blog and other forums, this is not an attempt by Rathbun to come clean. He will come clean when he communicates with me and debriefs to me and my attorney. Under subpoena at this time, he would lie, but a debrief to us would be coming clean. Rathbun has done missions, and he's debriefed many times. And I know when he's not coming clean. This is one more effort in a long chain of efforts by Rathbun to avoid coming clean. That also means, however, what a glorious day it will be when he does attempt to come clean, which honestly is not that difficult.

What Rathbun has written here about how I was treated is not revelatory and pretty well dumps it all on DM.
- before I left the cult Miscavige sent Starkey to give me an SRA for being "disaffected"
- Miscavige-directed PIs hounded me for several months
- Miscavige pursued me as the devil incarnate
- They sued me for theft
- The attorneys demonstrated they could do significant damage to my credibility

Marty is actually trying to make the issue all about a set of Hubbard's lies, when those lies have long since been laid to rest and are really not an issue at all. Rathbun hasn't even come clean about those lies, although he is at least still talking about them. Unaddressed is what he and his fellow Scientology leaders, knowing Hubbard was lying, have done to prevent people from learning the truth, to destroy people who told the truth about the lies being told, and to benefit from his lies.

The most terrible of Hubbard's lies, and what Rathbun and all Scientologists must confront, are his lies about the SP class. The Scientologists would love it if the issue could be made whether Hubbard sunk Japanese subs, invented the US Air Force, was machined gunned in the Java jungle, or whether having saved Australia he was flown back to the US in triumph in the Secretary of the Navy's plane. What matters are Hubbard and Scientologists' lies about SPs, who are simply wogs who tell the truth about Hubbard, Scientology and Scientologists. All Scientologists need to come clean about the SP doctrine, which is a pack of malignant lies, and how in application of that doctrine they have treated us.

Gerry


These sure are interesting times.

We expect some announcements soon in the Debbie Cook lawsuit, and we have plenty of other stories working, so please check our author page for the latest developments.



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Tony Ortega has been the editor in chief of the Village Voice since March, 2007. He started writing about Scientology in 1995. You can reach him by e-mail at tortega@villagevoice.com, and if you ask nicely he'll put you on his mailing list for notifications of new stories. You can also catch his alerts at Twitter (@VoiceTonyO), at his Facebook author page, on Pinterest, a Tumblr, and even this new Google Plus doohickey.

New readers might want to check out our primer, "What is Scientology?" Another good overview is our series from last summer, "Top 25 People Crippling Scientology." At the top of every story, you'll see the "Scientology" category which, if you click on it, will bring up all of our most recent stories.

As for hot subjects we've covered here, you may have heard about Debbie Cook, the former church official who rebelled and is now being sued by Scientology. You might have also heard about the Super Power Building, Scientology's "Mecca," whose secrets were revealed here. We also reported how Scientology spied on its own most precious object, Tom Cruise. (We wrote Tom an open letter that he has yet to respond to.) Have you seen a Scientology ad on TV lately? We debunked some of the claims in that 2-minute commercial you might have seen while watching Glee or American Idol.

Other stories have looked at Scientology's policy of "disconnection" that is tearing families apart. You may also have heard something about the Sea Org experiences of the Paris sisters, Valeska and Melissa, and their friend Ramana Dienes-Browning. We've also featured Paulette Cooper, who wrote about Scientology back in the day, and Janet Reitman, Hugh Urban, and the team at the Tampa Bay Times, who write about it today. And there's plenty more coming.

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Information About India
Information About India

Then there are critics who accuse L.R.H. of building Scientology into an elaborate scam. Of course, this ridiculous claim doesn't take into account that he didn't receive significant financial compensation from his life's work. And, of course, the fact that L.R.H. has been dead for nearly fifteen years and yet the Church continues to operate. One would have expected this "scam" to disintegrate as soon as he was no longer around to keep it afloat. Intead, the Church continues to provide service and work in earnest to achieve the goals he laid out during his life.

Noah Miller
Noah Miller

All I wanted was evidence that you were Clear as defined by Hubbard. You said you were in good health. That is not the definition of Clear, you claimed I did not know Scientology, yet only one of us was going by the words of your stated religion. According to Hubbard and Scientology, you are not clear. And if you cannot understand your own religion's definition of clear, the very basis of the religion itself, then you cannot understand the religion.

If you could somehow explain how that could possibly be bullbaiting I'd love to hear it. 

I'm not even kidding, this isn't me trying to goad you into anything. I'm just asking you to prove a point you claim is true. 

Noah Miller
Noah Miller

Elizabethan, if you're not interested in the conversation, then why are you here? 

I love the argument, I love to take two opposing claims and attempt to settle them with evidence. You can assume I don't care but you'd be wrong. You can assume I don't know anything about scientology, but you'd be wrong there too. 

I use the terms that the religion uses as they define them because the terminology is very important to the conversation. So when I talk about THE TECH I do so with full knowledge that it's supposed to be workable, and therefor demonstrable. 

Yet you are unable to demonstrate that which your religion claims works. 

You are also NOT CLEAR. That's 100% for sure. Not the way Hubbard or Scientology defines it. So if you've made up your own idea of what being Clear means, that's fine, but you certainly don't understand Scientology then. 

sketto
sketto

I'll be honest, these are some of the most moderate and enlightened answers I've ever had from someone who supports Hubbard's concepts. So, good luck to you. I certainly will always support anyone pursuing their own interests, especially those that involve finding meaning in this life.

But, as you have seen, I also will always challenge unsupported claims and push for evidence when any unproven claims are made. For that reason, I have to say that I reject the idea of Clear, since it is without evidence. There are many who claim that they have gone clear and that it is due to Hubbard's system, but there is no evidence that such a thing as thetan or clear state exists, even if auditing could be proven to help people in a scientific sense (which it has not).

So, I am still unconvinced that auditing tech provides anything that could not be gained in other arenas and for much less cost financially or emotionally to those who seek some kind of understanding in this life.

DodoTheLaser
DodoTheLaser

I finally read Gerry Armstrong's full reply to Marty Rathbun. Can I say facts and common sense owned Scientology?!Dear Indies and lurkers: www(dot)gerryarmstrong(dot)ca/archives/280Thank you, Gerry and be well. Many people love you and thank you.

Guestservices
Guestservices

I'm checking this page like 30 times per day... wtf, no new Tony posts in days!

guest
guest

Hilariousness alert. If you didn't see the latest press release about Writers of the Future, here's a treat. 

The title is "What do the Sinking of the Titanic, Income Tax, and Writers of the Future Have in Common?That's just gold. Anyone have a good answer to the riddle? I was thinking something like, "Someone will have to answer for each of them in hell." Idk.

The church's answer is:  "While April 15 marks the 100th anniversary for the sinking of the Titanic, and the last day for filing taxes, it is also the date when the 24 winners of the L. Ron Hubbard Writers and Illustrators of the Future Contests will receive their awards at a gala black tie ceremony at the historic Wilshire Ebell Theatre."

Whaaaat? Who writes this crap? 

OTVIIIisGrrr8!
OTVIIIisGrrr8!

We in RTC note that we can reissue books, cassette tapes, and reel-to-reel tapes faster than Tony Ortega can issue new columns. The wait is glacial.

The suspense of; not knowing; what Ortega will release; next; is driving COB to near madness. 

sketto
sketto

Clarification, if I may.

In asking "what right" and "how do you rationalize" I certainly am not defending Hubbard, but I am trying to take the typical defense of Hubbard and Scientology to their logical conclusions. You did clearly explain how it works for you, but I still feel the answer is incomplete because it does not address the inherent contradiction between staying on source and acknowledging that Hubbard is not the complete answer. I hope I don't need to point out to you all the various ways that Scientology explicitly defines the tech and allegiance to it. A significant amount of Hubbard's tech and the rules Hubbard created around that tech, in fact the whole support system of Scientology, is designed to exactly ensure that no one diverges from the purity of what he says is the tech. I think you have a thin argument if you pretend that Hubbard would be at all ok with any Scientologists choosing to discard any of his "scripture".

And you paradoxically claim to have both your own decision and "what he wants one to comply with". It is this point that I really start to see a dangerous element to this line of thinking. Because what L Ron Hubbard, proven liar, wants anyone to comply with is nothing worth promoting without serious, heavyweight evidence. The soft, casual defense of Hubbard as a bestower of wisdom who sometimes was merely telling tales is intentionally naive. The reality is much more grim. This defense of the man is both indifferent to the serious harm he caused to real human lives and blind to the likely possibility that all of his apples were poisoned, including the ones that he dressed up in pretty hats.

Noah Miller
Noah Miller

I think you might have missed Sketto's point on the first part. What is the yard stick you're using to judge what Hubbard claims to be true? How can you accept some and not other parts. Isn't it more reasonable, that if a person is shown to lie repeatedly, that anything they repeat is more likely to be a lie? 

With testimony showing that all the "Case Studies" in Diantetics were made up, with the constant barrage of impossible claims about his life as a nuclear physicist/sub hunter/indian blood brother/ reborn space-race-car-driver from another planet... Isn't it again more likely things like Body Thetans, Clears, OT Powers, are all equally bunk? 

And if you're using the Hubbard adage "What's true is what's true for you" then how did you judge that statement to be true? At some point in this process you used your own objectivity, why can't you keep using it, step back from being a believer for a moment and just put the claims he makes to a demonstrably verifiable test. 

Let me put it one more way-- If you go to your Org or your Indie group, ask to see one single person who you can verify is Clear. Perfect eyesight, perfect recall, perfect health. 

And then present that person to the rest of us cause we are damn interested to meet them.  

otto fick
otto fick

Anyone interested in just how crazy $cientology gets or how crazy it can make you needs to do a internet search on the name "Koos Noist Trenite" and get ready for a long and incredibly bizarre read. No offense meant to Koos.

sketto
sketto

I appreciate the thoughtful reply. I do have some more questions if you're willing...

Your answer explains how you, or some Indies, may see it. But by what right do you reject anything of what Hubbard said? Are you implicitly stating that you place your evaluation of what is workable tech above Hubbard's? 

Would Hubbard be ok with Scientologists taking some of his ideas and rejecting others? 

How do you rationalize staying on Source if you actually are only taking part of what Hubbard himself would have called tech?

Obviously, the overall point I'm making is that your approach seems to both adhere to Hubbard's systems while also rejecting Hubbard's systems. And that very fact seems to bring serious suspicion upon all the whole thing. Doesn't it? 

Koos Nolst Trenite
Koos Nolst Trenite

1. I feel Tony Ortega is at his best, when he is in full 'satire mode' (and sober).(see also 'Natural Definition of Insane - Relation to Humor' (last section)

'Scientologists,' however, take on the REVERSE CONSCIENCE oftheir guru, l. ron hubbard, so they call satire "Joking and Degrading"when it does, in fact, point up - especially with a very straight face - theall too obvious Insanity of and in 'Scientology' that 'Scientologists' aremade Blind to see.

Scientology - being made up of (and by the Source of) Insanity itself - is of course THE subject extra-ordinary, for satire.

2. l. ron hubbard IS a Sociopath. There are some 100 million of these   alive on Earth - you do the math. (cf. Robert D. Hare, Hervey Cleckley, Martha Stout)

Nowadays even Gery Armstrong on his or his girlfriend's websitepoints this out. He has however caused considerable confusionwith his past "suppressive persons don't exist" campaign, which herevives now, and which is still taken as the - indeed offered - opportunity by Sociopaths, to demand to be taken as "normal." (see also '{HRI 20100402-V2.0}' On Sociopaths who want to ...)

3. A more difficult - yet very, very basic - point to make, is on    Marty Rathbun who describes his own behavior as follows,    when he is confronted with Extreme Ugliness :

"By the way, thanks Tony.  I have a [video] copy of the full [10 March 2012, Birthday] event too, but get nauseous watching more than two or thee minutes at a any given time, and finally just chucked the thing in the trash."

It DOES take quiet a lot of guts, to face the Extreme Uglinessof l. ron hubbard and his spiritually very Dark ilk.

To explain how basically important that is, I can give theexample, that a very bad smell is extremely repellent.So it is with Extreme Ugliness - from a spiritual viewpoint,severe lies told as truth, are a form of Extreme Ugliness.

Which present someone experiencing it and not wantingto face it, with a few choices:a. to stop looking (as Marty Rathbun did now) b. to be Unaware (as 'Scientologists' are made to do)c. to be Euphoric and "All is fine" and "Everyone is OK."

Sociopaths often promote and are attracted to experiencingUgliness - even if only secretly.

To underline the subject, I end with another reference, forthose exceptionally few who actually wish to face theExtreme Ugliness of l. ron hubbard.(see '{HRI 20101224-V2.0}' - which asks: Please look at the Extreme, "Impenetrable" - Blinding, Hypnotizing and Vampiring - Ugliness of l. ron hubbard)

Koos Nolst TreniteHuman Rights Philosopher and Poet3 April 2012, Europe

V for Vacation
V for Vacation

Over at the Rathbun blog there's a new post about Scilons learning they have been declared SP via Facebook. Despite the seriousness of the Disconnection issue, I find all the Facebook de-friending drama to be hilariously adolescent.

The woman who reported her supposed declare to Marty, Angela LeMay, said she was un-friended by 300 loyal Scilons within 72 hours. Lol. And found out about it due to a post from Lyn Ribisi (Giovanni Ribisi's mother, Beck's mother in law).

DMSTCC
DMSTCC

Debbie Cook's bump? 

Read the observation:debbie-cook-45-days-in-the-holeWatch the testimony:YT:     watch?v=NTYDXWWHpMk&feature=youtu.be

DMSTCC
DMSTCC

Debbie Cook's bump? 

Read the observation:scientology-cult:    debbie-cook-45-days-in-the-hole.htmlWatch the testimony:youtube:     watch?v=NTYDXWWHpMk&feature=youtu.be

DMSTCC
DMSTCC

Hole bump:

read--scientology-cult:  debbie-cook-45-days-in-the-hole 

Then watch--youtube:  watch?v=NTYDXWWHpMk&feature=youtu.be

DMSTCC
DMSTCC

Hole bump:

youtube.Kom/watch?v=NTYDXWWHpMk&feature=youtu.be

scientology-cult.Kom/debbie-cook-45-days-in-the-hole.html

DMSTCC
DMSTCC

Hole bump:

youtube.Kom/watch?v=NTYDXWWHpMk&feature=youtu.be

scientology-cult.Kom/debbie-cook-45-days-in-the-hole.html

DMSTCC
DMSTCC

Hole bump:

www.youtube.Kom/watch?v=NTYDXWWHpMk&feature=youtu.be

www.scientology-cult.Kom/debbie-cook-45-days-in-the-hole.html

Tye Solaris
Tye Solaris

Thanks for the Gerry Armstrong Update / Letter,

Gerry goes right to the heart of the issue... this SP invention of Hubbard to justify attacking or simply extracting more and more and more monies from individuals, couples, families to ostensibly build a "War Chest".... which has been going on for decades... 

I would also have to agree that Marty continues to evade the Complete Story of what has and is still being perpetrated on all those who have yet to realize and know the real story.

Marty is cherry picking items from the historical record to preserve the Hubbard Legacy... and his Independent Movement.

OLD OT7
OLD OT7

I find it astonishing that they would actually put out as fact something that can be so clearly disproved as the meeting with the "mad" scientists wanting to take over the U.S. government along with Dick Nixon!  Unless, of course, Miscavage is relentlessly trying to replace Hubbard as "source" by putting out information that paints him in a bad light.

Comments welcome...

Kate Bornstein
Kate Bornstein

I'm on deadline for a new book, so can't comment to the length I'd like to now, but just wanna thank Tony and echo him on the notion that these are interesting times. Catch you all when I have a deadline break. xoxo K

Xenu
Xenu

The connections between the Magi and Freemasonry are obvious to anyone with Illuminati training, but John P. probably doesn't want to violate his oath of secrecy.

First, the dumb connection, which is what a scilon talk would mention.  The magi were the old priestly class of the Babylonian/Sumerian neighbourhood,  and were relatively knowledgeable and high tech folks for their day.  They kicked butt at astronomy, and had to get decent at math to do that.  Their number system used a mixture of base-6 and base-10, and it's had some after effects that linger to this day, such as the idea that a circle has 360 (6x6x10) degrees.  So there's your dumb link -- degrees.   Early (1600-1750) Freemasons and Rosicrucians also liked the idea of belonging to an ancient elite, so they came up with some inventive histories, in which people like Knights Templar and secretive stonemasons orally transmitted the wisdom of the Egyptians, Babylonians, and anyone else who seemed interesting, and that Freemasonry/Rosicrucianism were, essentially, thousands of years old.  So there's a much more meaningful connection between the two, even if it's extremely dubious from a historical perspective.

The trickier part will be connecting Freemasonry to Scientology.  There is a huge connection, and the history behind it is rock solid, but it won't be discussed.  The three founders of the Golden Dawn were each both Rosicrucians and Freemasons, and the Golden Dawn itself was extremely similar to those organizations, but with an emphasis on ceremonial magic.  One up and coming member of the Golden Dawn first became teacher's pet to one of the founders, then broke away to form and run other magical masonry sort of groups.  Argentium Astrum he founded, and the OTO he took over and transformed.  Crowley is the missing link.  Unless they want to fabricate some version of history in which Hubbard was Grand Poobah of the lodge at Sequoia University, there is no other clear link.  I'm guessing this part of the talk will include tall tales and speculation.

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

Why can't scientologists get the engram of wanting to conquer (they say, clear) the world out of their head? The ferocity with which the Cult Of Scientology invades our way (wogs) of free thinking will be/is their ruin, can't they see that?

The Scientologists lack of ability "to clear" (to achieve this goal) only results in neurosis, psychosis and ultimately insanity within its people...that's the way I see it.

Guestservices
Guestservices

How come Tony is now pushing his Facebook author page?  It's a little weird, as I don't recall him doing that before?  Especially in light of the (relative) dearth of new stories lately.

Ivy Mapother
Ivy Mapother

I just heard big pharma and psychs are behind the solid state circuitry conspiracy. Will the RTC be calling for replacement of all E-meters with vacuum tube technology?

Noah Miller
Noah Miller

But you do understand, you're not clear. Hubbard gave a clear definition of a clear and just being 50 and in good health does not fit the description. Do you have perfect recall? Do you never ever ever get sick? 

I honestly can't see how you can reconcile this being true for you if it does not fit the explained definition, especially when coming from a religion that praises the perfect understanding of a word above almost all else. 

Now I'll agree those benefits, like the benefits of many religions both harmful and benign do not vanish just because the founder is a liar and a conman and a bit mad in the head. However, if you can gleam those same benefits from any other source, such as therapy or reading a book on the subject, are they really benefits provided by the "tech"? 

jensting
jensting

 "No offense meant to Koos" - why the heck not?

Whatever next - Barbara Schwarz?!?

Koos Nolst Trenite
Koos Nolst Trenite

'The above - to which I reply - is an offensive post, reflecting as such on the anonymous commenter.

As long as his 'ad hominem,' and entirely libellous comment - that sadly enough,bears the hallmarks of malicious intent - has not been removed, it is in orderto respond to it and to point this out:

What CAN be gleaned from it, is the VIOLENT and persisting fight - withcomments as offensive as the one above - to enforce the greatestInsanity and Confusion onto the society, by hiding Sociopaths andintending to deny the very nature of life itself - much like l. ron hubbardwith his 'Scientology' does too inflict onto the society the greatest confusionand Insanity, about life and about any and all people.

This has been - and no doubt the libellous commenter knows this very well -described in the 'Final FAQ' that especially concerns this particular case.*

That the 'ad hominem' commenter does NOT include that (which ISmost relevant and describes exactly the content of his whole malicious"comment") - qualifies his message to consist of malicious innuendo ONLY.

I will therefore - being used to defend myself and others against suchmalicious attacks on the most decent and caring persons, and after havinggained a very thorough understanding of the motives and mind-set of suchcommenters - (I therefore) link that FAQ here with its full subject tittle andaddress:

*    'On sociopaths who want to feel themselves and each other as      "fighting for truth and freedom" ' [SFTF]       (the Final FAQ about alt.religion.scientology)      {HRI 20100402-V2.0}       (2 April 2010 - Version 2.0 on 7 Jan 2011)http://groups.google.com/group...

Koos Nolst TreniteHuman Rights Philosopher and Poet3 April 2012, Europe'

Koos Nolst Trenite
Koos Nolst Trenite

The above - to which I reply - is an offensive post, reflecting as such on the anonymous commenter.

As long as his 'ad hominem,' and entirely libellous comment - that sadly enough,bears the hallmarks of malicious intent - has not been removed, it is in orderto respond to it and to point this out:

What CAN be gleaned from it, is the VIOLENT and persisting fight - withcomments as offensive as the one above - to enforce the greatestInsanity and Confusion onto the society, by hiding Sociopaths andintending to deny the very nature of life itself - much like l. ron hubbardwith his 'Scientology' does too inflict onto the society the greatest confusionand Insanity, about life and about any and all people.

This has been - and no doubt the libelous commenter knows this very well -described in the 'Final FAQ' that especially concerns this particular case.*

That the 'ad hominem' commenter does NOT include that (which ISmost relevant and describes exactly the content of his whole malicious"comment") - qualifies his message to consist of malicious innuendo ONLY.

I will therefore - being used to defend myself and others against suchmalicious attacks on the most decent and caring persons, and after havinggained a very thorough understanding of the motives and mind-set of suchcommenters - (I therefore) link that FAQ here with its full subject tittle andaddress:

*    'On sociopaths who want to feel themselves and each other as      "fighting for truth and freedom" ' [SFTF]       (the Final FAQ about alt.religion.scientology)      {HRI 20100402-V2.0}       (2 April 2010 - Version 2.0 on 7 Jan 2011)http://groups.google.com/group...

Koos Nolst TreniteHuman Rights Philosopher and Poet3 April 2012, Europe

MarkStark
MarkStark

Facebook is airing the nutty laundry of the cult's SP business in public. That stuff worked  when it was secret. How good were these 300 friends anyway? All this mass-unfriending is going to do is attract more attention and curiosity to Marty's blog.

I think it is much more hip and bold to declare yourself an indie on Marty's blog. That is something the Internet is good for. Considering the people in this cult, you gotta kind of admire the ones who sidle up to an SP squirrel with an unregulated emeter like Marty. The ones who leave the cult and flock to Marty just want some of the bait days back, "what is true for you" and most of them will never be committed to Marty enough that they'll ever feel deceived or used by him.

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

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Kate, this is for you and Denise Brennan. Hope it comes out right on Disqus? ツ

jensting
jensting

 The neurosis etc is the purpose of the phony urgency. Simple.

If the clams had time to sit down and THINK about what they were put through, and TALK to other clams, they would all have a laugh about it and quit.

Victoriapandora
Victoriapandora

I can only imagine the fixation is to stop people complaining about the rice and beans, the insanity of their co staffworkers and myriad other things. It's like that cartoon I saw the other day in an old Free Spirit mag. An SO member stepping on students squashed on the courseroom floor. She was saying "Get out of my way, I got a planet to clear." The cleared planet serves well by making you feel like a whiny jerk if your "body" needs sleep and food.

TonyOrtega
TonyOrtega

Actually, I included a link to my author page for months in the links after my stories. Now that I've decided to post a little less frequently, and people are emailing me with questions, I figure the best place to send them for updates is the author page. For months I have been posting behind-the-scenes stuff there and notices of upcoming stories. It's just the best way for me to get the word out.

OTVIIIisGrrr8!
OTVIIIisGrrr8!

We in RTC like the retro hiss of reel-to-reel and vinyl. Why just last night we were listening to Aja on Japanese half-speed mastered vinyl while knocking back some Dalmore 62 Single Highland Malt Scotch.  

OTVIIIisGrrr8!
OTVIIIisGrrr8!

OMG! There has been a leak! No one was supposed to know about the Quantum Chromium Mark X e-meter that uses proprietary vacuum tube technology. We suspect that Big Pharma has sent in spies in an attempt to steal the QC prototypes.

We in RTC are immediately implementing COB Standing Order #1: Massive Angry Paranoid Panic and Sec Checking (MAPP-SC):

1. Condition Ideal Lock Down: Lock down Int Base, Gold Base, Flag Land Base, all CLO's, Ideal Orgs, and missions.

2. Code Red: Global 100% sec checks ordered on all 1,500,000,000 Scientologists. Scientologists are ordered into house arrest. All televisions, computers, radios, and smart phones are to be powered off and stored in a locked room until further notice.

3. We in RTC have just "Insta-Declared" 500,000 people as a warning to others. We will recover them next week after they donate $40,000 each.

4. Send recovery teams to all airports, bus stations, and SP-friendly locations to scout for blown SO members.

5. Bring surge capacity online: Hire additional lawyers and PI's just in case we need them.

6. Have all VM's standby for deployment to enturbulated areas with 1,000,000,000 with copies of TWTH to counter any negative PR.

7. Send emergency telegrams to all RTC agents in the field informing them that MAPP-SC will remain in effect until further notice.

otto fick
otto fick

Because from what I read there's no slam dunk as to his guilt or innocence and he obviously has "issues" hence the use of the potentially offensive term "crazy" by me.

Guestservices
Guestservices

Any chance you can go back to posting as frequently as before?

Unex Skcus
Unex Skcus

 Pity we can't subscribe to this section of VV...

Bobo Justus
Bobo Justus

 Only frustrated writers need apply.

OTVIIIisGrrr8!
OTVIIIisGrrr8!

We in RTC were somewhat aghast at the scurrilous allegations made by us against Global Capitalism HQ. We clearly heard retro hiss but, just to be sure, summoned Clearsound expert and former movie star Tom Cruise to the RTC HQ building to hear it for himself. Tom sat down and listened and heard no hiss.

Accordingly, we in RTC had our ears checked by a local medico as it is possible that we may have damaged ear drums due to the time when we, ahh, err, fell headlong down a flight of stairs following a statrcrash.To our astonishment, the medico found small Psych transmitters embedded in our ears. These small sinister devices explain the source of hidden suppression on our lines.

We suspect that Big Pharma must have flown in a very tiny robotic black helicopter into RTC berthing as we lay sleeping. This is the only way this could have happened. An alternate part of our two factoral theorem is that our Grado "The Statement 1" cartridge could have also been sabotaged by this tiny Psych black helicopter during its surreptitious and malevolent incursion into the inner sanctum where we in RTC sleep for 2-3 hours each night.

These Psych implants into our cochlea explain completely how Big Pharma discovered the existence of the vacuum tube Mark X as well as other leaks. In any event, and if only to bring closure to this massive attack on us, we have installed a Falklands War era radar system capable of detecting miniaturized, marauding black Psych helicopters. We purchased this system from a gaucho amigo who specializes in such technologies.

As for Canada, we have an Ideal Org there. We looked on a map and it appears that Canada is a part of the North Pole. Apparently populated by Eskimos, Canada once belonged to Napoleon. We in RTC have never met Napoleon but we plan to find the time, yes we do.

Guest
Guest

Who volunteers to do cliff notes of John P's posts? 

John P.
John P.

We in Global Capitalism HQ note, after checking with some of the companies we own in the recording business, that Steely Dan is legendary for obsessively perfectionist tendencies in the recording studio.  

We checked with Daniel Levitin, professor of music theory, computer science and behavioral neuroscience at McGill Univeristy about the noise levels in Steely Dan recordings.  

We were at first skeptical of Dr. Levitin. Our minions inform us that McGill University is in "Canada," which is either a real estate investment subsidiary of some undistinguished mining and timber company we own or is a district of upstate New York somewhere the other side of Buffalo.  As we were fascinated to discover that our portfolio might contain several million square miles of frozen Arctic wasteland we had never heard of, our flunkies unearthed some locally-written information about Canada.  However, as their native language is unknown to us, we were unable to decipher anything meaningful, given torrents of  words never before heard in Global Capitalism HQ such as "back bacon," "Molson," "icing the puck," "Parliament" and "eh?"  

But he turns out to be the real deal. Dr. Levitin has substantial experience in both theoretical models of the neuroscience of human perception of music and in the music of Steely Dan in particular.  He assisted legendary Steely Dan founders Donald Fagen and Walter Becker in the remastering of the six pre-breakup Steely Dan albums into the 4-CD boxed set.  He also helped design the mixing loudspeakers used by that talented duo in mixing Pretzel Logic.  In particular, he helped the remastered versions ameliorate RIAA curve equalization issues that the artists noted on the liner notes to the Katy Lied LP.   

On the basis of his unequalled experience in such things, a base of knowledge only fractionally below the direct knowledge of the late, lamented Roger "The Immortal" Nichols, the supremely talented recording engineer who oversaw all of Steely Dan's master tapes, whom we can no longer consult with on account of his demise last year, Dr. Levitin assured us that there is absolutely no chance that "retro hiss" ever existed on either reel-to-reel versions or half-speed mastered vinyl versions of any Steely Dan recordings.

We were grateful to Dr. Levitin for clearing this up.  Upon hearing this joyous news, we smiled with contentment knowing that the value of our sizable holdings in Vivendi, the parent company of Steely Dan record label MCA/Universal, would not suffer a multi-billion dollar hit as any libelous hints of anything less than auditory perfection from Steely Dan, was whispered through the back alleys and sewers of the Internet, our wholly owned communications and porn distribution subsidiary.  

All in all, a nice end to the day: our holdings in Vivendi were spared scandalous allegations, we discovered a whole country tucked away in our investment portfolio for a rainy day, and we can crank up the Steely Dan on our vintage JBL Paragon speaker system secure in our knowledge that their musical perfection endures with no chance of wayward hiss even on the most retro of equipment. We in Global Capitalism HQ love our life.

jensting
jensting

 The issues involves, among other things, "Sociopaths" and always have - note capitalisation. I'm sure I'm one of those (since I think that $cientology is a pile of crap, and the Koos that used to post stuff like the above to ARS did not take kindly to that).

So, if you can show me some court documents that his guilt is "no slam dunk" knock yourself out, please. My profile should have a website for me which in turn has an e-mail address if you're fearful to post anything here out of concern for Koos' feelings.

Chocolate Velvet
Chocolate Velvet

I agree. Who can complain about "three big, meaty posts a week"? ;)

Seriously, I am glad you dialed back a little Tony O. I loved the daily posts, but I'd been thinking you were bound to burn out. I still come here every day to catch up on the comments, and they are always worth reading. Plus, the anticipation of the next post only enhances the payoff...

DeckardCain
DeckardCain

I was wondering how long you would be able to keep up that frequency, and I am most appreciative for your past daily output although you may have now saved me from being late every day.  

I, for one, enjoy your big meaty.....um posts, ya posts, so I am glad for anything that provides us with more thorough information (sorry, the words 'big' and 'meaty' under your picture are just too much to resist).

bobx
bobx

We'll take "meat" three times a week over rice-and-beans every day!

CofS Exit Zone
CofS Exit Zone

"Way ahead" is an understatement but I'd say that's right.  And FWIW, one substantial story a week puts you way ahead imo, while 3 means you still reign as king of the mountain when it comes to keeping Scientology's feet in the flames on a regular basis.

(smirks) all hail the king!

TonyOrtega
TonyOrtega

I'm figuring that three big, meaty posts a week not only will allow me to get to the really deep investigations I care about, but it still puts me way ahead of any other news organization in the world watching Scientology, right? Believe me, I loved the daily thing, and I apologize to those who got used to it. But this is more realistic for me and in the long run will produce more substantive stories. 

CofS Exit Zone
CofS Exit Zone

Dude deserves a life, and some slack. Tony has done more stories in a year than any other outlet has done in a decade. Surely you would rather see less stories posted that are larger in size, then see the poor guy get burned out and stop all together? 

Jonathan Hendry
Jonathan Hendry

Having only recently gotten into the rhythm of the posts, it's a bit disappointing to me that Tony's slowing down, but it's probably for the best if the former pace was unsustainable. (I just got through a two week death march to ship an iPad app, and don't wish that kind of pace on anyone, least of all if it would involve spending lots of quality time with Hubbard's word salad.)

Unex Skcus
Unex Skcus

Thanks. The RSS link came up with the tag "Village Voice | Complete Issue". Should I use "Village Voice | Scientology" ?

CofS Exit Zone
CofS Exit Zone

Yeah but it rolls over too quickly and new stories only last a day. The better RSS feed is the one on Tony's author profile page here on VV. It had invalid pubdates that rendered it useless for a long time, but that seemingly got fixed a couple weeks ago.

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