L. Ron Hubbard in his Own Words: Mr. Charisma?

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In March, we brought you excerpts from this year's big LRH Birthday Event held in Clearwater, Florida. We'd been sent a copy of the three-hour presentation, and pulled out what we felt were the best portions to share with you.

In the time since, we're kind of surprised that a full version of the video hasn't leaked to the Internet by now. So we thought we'd break off a couple more segments for your enjoyment.

In particular, we enjoyed the short films that Golden Era Productions made that bring old Hubbard lectures to life.

As we said last time, the message in each seems to be the same: L. Ron Hubbard never met anyone on his own intellectual level.

In this first example, above, you'll see Ron school a bunch of fresh-faced college graduates who had been sent to him as ensigns during the short time that Hubbard commanded ships during the Second World War. Hubbard, who quit George Washington University after failing physics, sure seems to enjoy ridiculing their book learning, doesn't he? (Scientology, by the way, is largely about reading Hubbard's books and summarizing them.)

If Hubbard found the college boys from Iowa lacking, just wait until you see the awesome respect he had for police in this next segment.

As Hubbard tells us in this tall tale, he joined the LA police department because he wanted to find out what police were so "scared of."

Note how Ron manages to end on an up note -- that people are essentially good -- after, that is, explaining what a bunch of dumbasses they are. You have to love that kind of sleight of hand.

As we watched these segments for the first time in March, we couldn't help thinking about last year's two excellent histories of the church, Janet Reitman's Inside Scientology and Hugh Urban's The Church of Scientology. In each, we're told that Hubbard grew Scientology because of his undeniable charisma.

Now I have to wonder, did either of them actually listen to any of Hubbard's lectures? That's charisma? Hubbard comes off more like a know-it-all and teller of preposterous and self-serving tales, doesn't he? Where's the charm? I guess you had to be there, or something.

There are a few other fun portions still worth seeing in the Birthday Event. Maybe we'll share those in a future post.


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Trailer of The Master Designed to Dampen Scientology Talk?

For a couple of years now Scientology watchers have been eagerly anticipating the release of Paul Thomas Anderson's next movie, The Master, which is about a post-WWII cult started up by a war veteran named Lancaster Dodd, played by a very L. Ron Hubbard-looking Philip Seymour Hoffman. Anderson and his actors, however, have tried to downplay the connection between Hoffman's cult and Hubbard's church.

Yesterday, we got our first peek at footage from the film, and it's a gripping scene of Joaquin Phoenix as navy vet Freddie Quell, apparently talking to a military officer questioning Quell about his wayward behavior.

We saw a lot of chatter on the 'Nets yesterday that this was a peek at the Scientology content of the movie. But the fact is, there isn't any to be seen, at least in this trailer. Anderson has (purposefully?) chosen what appears to be a sequence early in the film, when Freddie Quell, coming home from the war, has yet to get swept up in Dodd's cult.

If Anderson wanted to choose a scene that keeps us guessing about how much The Master portrays Scientology's early days, well, he's done masterful job.


UPDATE: Roger Friedman says a full screening leaves no doubt the movie is about Scientology's early years. Though I have to say, it's unclear from Roger's piece whether he was actually in Cannes for this screening or heard about it from others.

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Hy Levy, 1952-2012

Marty Rathbun reported yesterday some terrible news. Just a few months after he was the centerpiece of the Tampa Bay Times's latest great expose on Scientology, former church registrar Hy Levy has died of cancer.

Levy made millions for Scientology by convincing church members to max out their credit cards and mortgage their homes. After 16 years of 12-hour days, he estimated that he'd brought in more then $200 million to the church, and then walked away with a severance check for $500. He admitted that he'd been so dedicated to his job, his mother's illness and dying was something he considered a "distraction."

He obviously regretted that feeling later. And I'm regretting that I missed my own opportunity. Levy, after the series in the Times, offered to talk to me about things he'd said that didn't make it into the excellent report by Joe Childs and Tom Tobin. I was eager to talk to Hy, but I stupidly put it off, assuming that I had more time. Wow, do I regret that now.

At least, however, we have, thanks to the Tampa Bay Times, Levy's devastating words about how focused on money Scientology is. Watch it again. It's powerful stuff.


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As for hot subjects we've covered here, you may have heard about Debbie Cook, the former church official who rebelled and was sued by Scientology. You might have also heard about the Super Power Building, Scientology's "Mecca," whose secrets were revealed here. We also reported how Scientology spied on its own most precious object, Tom Cruise. (We wrote Tom an open letter that he has yet to respond to.) Have you seen a Scientology ad on TV lately? We debunked some of the claims in that 2-minute commercial you might have seen while watching Glee or American Idol.

Other stories have looked at Scientology's policy of "disconnection" that is tearing families apart. You may also have heard something about the Sea Org experiences of the Paris sisters, Valeska and Melissa, and their friend Ramana Dienes-Browning. We've also featured Paulette Cooper, who wrote about Scientology back in the day, and Janet Reitman, Hugh Urban, and the team at the Tampa Bay Times, who write about it today. And there's plenty more coming.


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Too Much
Too Much

"L. Ron Hubbard never met anyone on his own intellectual level."

Sarah Palin and George W. Bush came after Hubbard, which is why.

Too Much
Too Much

LOL! That fucking insane drug-addled crook also said that it was a woman's lot in life to be fornicated. He was a real shitbag Republican, was Hubbard.

Claude
Claude

Tony's new post is up!  It didn't get indexed on google under news, just a heads up!

Strelnikov
Strelnikov

I've listened to a couple of Hubbard's lectures; he sounds less like an educated man and more like a raconteur who read "just enough" to sound like he knew what he was talking about.

They picked these snippets of his lectures/ramblings because he sounds more like a humanitarian/leading light than the cult leader he was.

Jgg
Jgg

  Actually, none of this is surprising for a man who claims to have wrestled a polar bear, to have been the youngest eagle scout ever, to have learned an entire indian language in one night, as well as co-writing an oscar-winning movie and discovering the quark (the smallest atomic particle).  And that's just in this life!  In previous lives, he invented music, founded Rhodesia, etc.

DodoTheLaser
DodoTheLaser

Re: trailer of The Master movie - A LOT of coverage in the last 48 hours or so..Even PanArmenianDOTnet covered it and I didn't know they exist before.

Interesting comment someone left on TheWrapDOTcom:

"KeepOnLearning - a day ago

Really? If "the two remain friends," Cruise better pay attention to who his "friends" are.

Because if Anderson were *not* trying to capitalize on slurring Scientology, the director had a dozen early (meaning inexpensive) opportunities to change settings to avoid mirroring the religion of his"friend." With friends like Anderson, who needs enemas?"

OSA is mad. And it's Thursday. Arghhh!

Jgg
Jgg

A portion of the naval clip was cut.  Here it is:

I'm L. Ron the Sailor Man, I'm L. Ron the Sailor Man. I'm strong on the ethics Cause I've done dianetics I'm L. Ron the Sailor Man. 

CanuckXenu
CanuckXenu

Lisa Marie Presley was on Jimmy Kimmel's show last night and did not perform the single from her new album.  She did a different song, much more uptempo and "TV-friendly", that didn't seem to have any provocative lyrics.  

Not playing her current single during "major' TV exposure must have driven her record label promotion team crazy. It's like TC going on Letterman and not plugging "Rock Of Ages".

But then again, I keep checking BDS airplay and absolutely no radio station in North America is touching the single (Sirius XM's Spectrum channel has added it, but only spins it about 14 times a week.  About six or seven other stations have played it a couple of times).

I suspect her label must have realized the choice of first single was a dog and they're now doubling back, trying to move some albums with a better track. LMP herself must have insisted on the choice of the "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" as the first single, but artists are the worst people to decide what's "good".

And I'm predicting no album sales either.  I'll get the sales charts later today but I'm not expecting her to have sold more than a couple of thousand copies.

Bobb999
Bobb999

The LRH as a "special police officer" story sounds phoney, as other commenters have mentioned. The tale of the guy supposedly high on marijuana wanting to shoot his best friend sounds like  "reefer madness" propaganda falsely suggesting pot makes one crazy-violent.But LRH as an Aleister Crowleyite would have encountered Crowley's pro-drugs philosophy, including his pro-opium, pro-marijuana, & pro-peyote  writings & beliefs. And Jack Parsons' OTO group LRH joined was no doubt pro-drugs use. Some of Crowley's OTO rituals he wrote incorportated the taking of drugs (e.g. opium) as part of the ritual, & Parsons wrote about using peyote & other drugs himself.

LRH's disparaging reference to the "hopheads" (opiate addicts) reminds me Gerry Armstrong found good evidence LRH himself was a hophead, a devotee of opium & opiates, as well as other drugs. There's a video findable at YouTube somewhere of LRH giving a talk sitting at a desk with a huge wall sized painting or mural behind him of an outdoor scene, the most prominent content of which is a large number of red opium poppies growing! LRH was such a do-what-I-say,-not-what-I-do  drugs hypocrite with his official Scientology teachings opposing drugs use, while he himself was an enthusiastic user of a variety of drugs, apparently.

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Sid
Sid

I totally agree Tony, Hubbard's words, sentiments and method of delivery are so awful I really do wonder what the attraction is to him.

I think it's one of the great paradoxes of Scientology - to adherents his words are inspirational, but for everyone else his message is so transparently mis-directional, egotistical and lacking in a feeling of truth or substance that you have to wonder how it's possible for people to devote their lives to the man's teachings.

His story about his ensigns is a classic example. World War II was a horrific example of man's capability for brutality, but the flip-side to that is how a great many nations stood together and defeated one of the great evils of the modern age.

Millions of young men and women around the world of strong heart came forward and sacrificed their lives so we could live in peace, but Hubbard can only revel in ridiculing them and their training. You can imagine he detested their fitness, their strength, their enthusiasm and their popularity with each other. You can perhaps imagine the view they had of their rather strange and awkward commander, who saw enemy submarines under every bubble.

Those ensigns, and young men like them hacked their way through jungles, stormed the beaches at Normandy, jumped out of gliders above occupied France, flew planes through Japanese aircraft carriers and liberated holocaust survivors. How the heck did they manage all that without Ron Hubbard?

Noah Miller
Noah Miller

How many times do you think Hubbard said "And so forth" in his life? These guys love their repeated terms. 

"So forth" ... "Whereupon" ... "To wit" ...

V for Vacation
V for Vacation

Here's a written description of a 4 minute clip of The Master that was shown to some journalists at Cannes:  http://www.hitfix.Kom/blogs/motion-captured/posts/the-weinsteins-unveil-early-peeks-at-django-the-master-and-silver-linings-at-cannes

I'll try to paste the bulk of it here:

"If you saw the trailerearlier today, you have some idea of what we saw, but it was a differentassembly.  While the soundtrack was the same at the beginning, with thatunnerving Jonny Greenwood score and the interview between the Army official andJoaquin Phoenix, the images themselves were different.  We saw Phoenixstanding in a hallway, writing on a piece of paper affixed to acorkboard.  As the interview reached its end, the camera pushed forward sowe could read the very short and direct note:  “Gone to China,” and thenhis signature.

We saw the same footage of the fight on thebeach, the footage of him drinking the alcohol that looks like it’s coming froma torpedo, and then the close-up of him sitting across from the guy that’sinterviewing him.  “What happened?  Sir?”

”Let’s just see if we can’t help you rememberwhat happened.”

Then began new footage.  Joaquin Phoenixrunning across a field, afraid.  Him on a boat, walking along a deck atnight.  And then his first encounter with Philip Seymour Hoffman.  Heasks Hoffman, “What do you do?”

”I do many many things.  I am a doctor, awriter, a nuclear physicist, a theoretical philosopher.  But above all, Iam a man.”

We see Hoffman onstage, addressing agroup.  “I’d like to talk to you today about cold feet and narrowminds.  People who have cold feet cannot move forward. People who havenarrow minds cannot move side to side. They both take courage.  This iswhat I’d like to talk about.”

Then Amy Adams is introduced, and she’s got acrazy intensity, even in these short clips, that practically radiates off thescreen.  “This exercise will help you with your concentration.  Lookat my eyes.  I want you to place something in the future for yourself thatyou would like to have.  It’s there, waiting for you.”

Then it’s back to Hoffman and Phoenix, sittingacross from each other in some intense encounter, Hoffman challenginghim.  “Say your name.”

Phoenix sounds hesitant in his response.  “FreddieCrock.”

”Say it again.”

Louder this time.  “Freddie Crock.”

”Might as well say it one more time, just tomake sure you know who you are.”

”Freddie Crock.”

We see a group of people shooting on the beach,Phoenix among them, and then we see Adams confronting Hoffman, almost intears.  “And this is where we are at,” she says.  “At the lowestlevel.  To have to explain ourselves.  For what?  For what wedo, we have to grovel.  The only way to defend ourselves is toattack.  If we don’t do that, we will lose every battle we are engagedin.  We will never dominate our environment the way we should unless weattack.”

Now we appear to be jumping scene to scene,moment to moment.  It’s just impressions.  Adams laughing, out ofcontrol.  “It’s a grim joke.”

Hoffman groans.  “I was thoughtless in myremarks.”

As the scenes cut from one to the next, we keepreturning to a haunting image of Phoenix, framed in a window, punching himselfin the head.  Fast.

Hoffman accuses him.  “You linger in busstations for pleasure.”  Another shot of Phoenix, punching fasternow.  Back to Hoffman.  “Is your life a struggle?”  Punchingfaster and faster.  “Is your behavior erratic? Are you unpredictable?” Phoenix, sitting across from Hoffman, farts loudly and begins to laugh asHoffman recoils.  “What a horrible young man you are.”

It seems like they’re picking at him, breakinghim down.  “You’re a dirty animal who eats its own feces when it’s hungry.”

We see them meeting, talking aboutPhoenix.  Amy Adams in particular doesn’t seem to trust him.  “Iwonder how he got here and what he’s after.  Is it really all so easy thathe just came across us?  He’s dangerous and he will be our undoing if wecontinue to have him here.”

Hoffman’s not convinced, though.  “If weare not helping him, then it is we who have failed him… is it not?”

Adams is the last one to speak as the titlecomes up.  “The Master.”  Simple white letters on a blackbackground.  “Perhaps he’s past help.  Or insane.”  And theGreenwood score ends on a lone violin, mournful.  It was a dizzying pieceof footage, and much of it was just close-ups against stark black backgrounds,these great actors and their faces and nothing else.  It certainly made meeager to see what PTA has been up to, and it also pretty much confirms anyreport that tied the film to the origins of Scientology.  While they maynot be doing a straight biopic of L. Ron Hubbard, if you’re familiar with hislife, it would be impossible not to see him and his wife and the earlyfollowers in what we saw tonight."

 

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

Sorry to hear about Hy Levy, it's a shame he passed on without hearing more from him. "Lifes a bitch and then you die," WTF? My condolences to his family.

hgc
hgc

Oh, and 2 more hilarious notable items in the Navy video:

The part about the ensigns wandering off post -- of course any commander in the Navy with that problem would be quickly relieved ... oh yeah. But really why is Hubbard telling that story is to give an object lesson to the crew of the Good Ship Crazypop, who, it seems, are always neglecting their "hats." His stories have a point after all. 

And then there's the improbable incident of one of these young, fit officers falling asleep on post during an extended engagement with submarine. Improbable in two ways -- the falling asleep part and the submarine part. 

Ivy Mapother
Ivy Mapother

TC's issues with "The Master:"1. Title should be "There Will Be Scientology."2. Remove the line "Rubbing is auditing."3. Remove the line "You can't handle the truth."4. Not enough gunplay, explosions or breathtaking stunts.5. Not enough product placements.6. Add a disclaimer that no thetans were harmed during the making of this film.7. Delete soundtrack and call Mark Isham.8. Amy Adams looks way to much like Nicole Kidman, edit her out.9. The movie may not be shown in Germany.10. PTA is not doing enough to help the Red Dawn re-make get off the shelf.

JustCallMeMary
JustCallMeMary

So sad to read about Hy Levy but he was loved and cared for and he's at peace now, not suffering anymore. These things are really the best one can ask for in such a situation.  Goodbye and thank you for speaking up.  זייַט געזונט און דאַנקען איר פֿאַר רעדן אַרויף

lamoore0888
lamoore0888

At the end of the video, in the last 30 seconds of his words, we cried.

MarkStark
MarkStark

THE MASTER, starring Philip Seymour Hoffman as L. Ron Hubbard, and Joaquin Phoenix as Hubbard's demented sidekick Tommy Xenu Davis.

Lies, lies, and more lies unfold as first we see Hubbard crossing China on pogo stick, only to meet up with Xenu Davis cavorting with semi-nude soldiers on a beach somewhere in the South Pacific.

All he says is, "I can't remember." Hubbard can help him with that.

Jgg
Jgg

  I don't think Hubbard had much of a sense of humor.  It is my understanding that Sea Org members can be put in the RPF for simply telling a joke about him.

hgc
hgc

He locked the books in the safe! What a nut burger! 

MarkStark
MarkStark

I didn't get a chance to play the cop and bar story until now. That really happened, except instead of stranger, it was Hubbard all hopped up on pinks & grays who then got drunk. Anyway, the clams get a huge kick out of seeing Hubbo in a video noir. It's got all the elements of a classic feature film; an all-knowing ginger hero who never met a man he didn't like couldn't handle and a glass of salt water.

Noah Miller
Noah Miller

Those damn south main street Bar-Den-Cafes. The bane of the LA crime scene!

Llama
Llama

Quite pathetic to hear LRH trashing college students who became naval officers.  I like when LRH says it took these bright men "two to three days to get used to the thought that they could teach themselves something."  Well.... all that coming from a college flunk out!

LRH wasn't really qualified to be an officer (as his record demonstrates).  It's so much more pathetic when LRH, and scientology try to present his career in such a deceptive manner.  The naval vessels in that video were much larger than the ones LRH staffed.  He was on the little boats. Briefly, before he got kicked out. 

N. Graham
N. Graham

"Actually, none of this is surprising for a man who claims to have wrestled a polar bear, to have been the youngest eagle scout ever, to have learned an entire indian language in one night, as well as co-writing an oscar-winning movie and discovering the quark (the smallest atomic particle).  And that's just in this life!  In previous lives, he invented music, founded Rhodesia, etc."Not to mention singing on his own radio show, bronco-busting, stunt flying, musician, photographer, filmmaker, special police officer, destroying evil wizards, Naval hero, visiting heaven (twice!), humanitarian solving the drug problem, and in a previous life becoming the Buddha!

Sid
Sid

L Ron went to sea, sea, seaTo see what gold he could see, see, seeBut all that he could see, see, seeWas a total lack of any OT, T, T

MarkStark
MarkStark

Hubbard's promise was to create a civilization that would not need war, by obliterating anyone who stood in his way. The only fight there would be in Bulgravia, would be who could get through the Org door first to buy into a process. The only war that wasn't sheer folly, was the fight to save this sector of the galaxy by buying into Scientology.

During Hubbard's time, he couldn't establish a Bulgravia, because people were not ready for his advanced technology. Now is the time. Super Power will change the face of the planet. Instead of "how are you?" people will ask each other "how oily are you?" Are you in or are you out?

Remy
Remy

WOW !!!

I'm not sure why I never thought this could happen.  A great film director making a great film that is critical of the cult.  This will be a true help to the planet.  Take that, LRH!

DodoTheLaser
DodoTheLaser

Holy shit, V! Thank you for sharing it here. Now it's beyond obvious - The Master is about scientology.

Jgg
Jgg

  And you must state loudly and clearly that TC is straight, straight, straight!

Jonathan W. Hendry
Jonathan W. Hendry

I suspect TC was given a screening so that he could see that there was nothing about *him*, or a thinly-veiled analog of him, in the movie that would be damaging to his career.

If the film is more about the early days, that shouldn't have been any problem.

Mookindahouse
Mookindahouse

 it didn't specifically say what "issues" Tommy Boy had a problem with. Probably very minor ones and probably not CoS related (I'm guessing).

although interesting that the CoS hasn't seen the film (and probably never will).

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

Tom Cruise is not only running our government he's running Hollywood too. Why is everyone kissing his 4 inch shoe lift ass?

Guest
Guest

You can be quite sure LRH was not locking things in safes.  Most people in the military didn't trust him one bit.  

MarkStark
MarkStark

The cult should do a film noir on the exploits of their contemporary heroes.

"He never met a man he wouldn't fondle, until now..."

Starring John Travolta as himself and Kelly Preston playing Freedom Medal of Valor winner Mr. Tom Cruise.

Gerard Plourde
Gerard Plourde

While I've visited LA, I don't know Market Street. The only one that I can find on Google Maps runs for about four blocks in Venice Beach. (Oops, should be looking for Main Street.)

Ron
Ron

Hubbard said that the navy was so hard up for officers that they snatched the ensigns away as soon as they could stand a watch.

And yet they kept Hubbard right where he was. Heh heh heh.

Noah Miller
Noah Miller

He wasn't qualified to be a college student either.

hgc
hgc

I know! Really, what an amazing guy. I heard that he once audited a tomato. 

bobx
bobx

They won't have to ask how oily you are:  they'll just KNOW!  And when they have that knowingness, and the havingness of that knowingness turns into beingness, the clearing of the planet will be that much closer, just a few months more now, for sure, if you donate now.

John P.
John P.

Hubbard couldn't establish Bulgravia in his lifetime, not because people weren't ready for his bogus tech, but because he had absolutely no clue.  He was trying to unify Greece, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia (which was really six different countries) and Albania and then take over the combined country.  The dozen or more ethnic groups in the combined area have little in common culturally, linguistically or even religiously, and have been feuding for centuries. Some of the atrocities following the disintegration of Yugoslavia were settling scores for things that happened hundreds of years ago.  

There's no chance that Hubbard could have pulled off on a larger scale what Tito, backed by the might of the Russian Military, attempted and failed to do with Yugoslavia, and there's no chance that anybody would have actually wanted a Greater Bulgravia, whether it was controlled by Scientology or not.  

Hubbard's notion that he could come in, cozy up to a politician or two, toss a minuscule amount of development money in, send a couple of dozen people to WISE classes to learn "management tech" and then emerge immediately with the crown jewels of the economy if not seated at the levers of power, is completely crazy.  Not in the delusional clinically mentally ill, but in the childish assumption of how smart and powerful you are versus others.  

The Bulgravia strategy was reminiscent of the plans of a bunch of eight-year-olds in a treehouse plotting to take over the school and mandate unlimited chocolate cake and ice cream in the cafeteria every day.  In fact, that same 8-year-old fantasy style of thinking characterizes much of Scientology, including the fake navy adventures on the ships and back on land, and so much more. 

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If anybody starts asking "How oily are you?"  I am ready.  My response, "I'm, like, totally viscous, baby!"  Bring on the Sooper Powerz!

MarkStark
MarkStark

This is great. Lancaster Dodd, a writer and a "theoretical physicist"... Nothing like Hubbard there, because Hubbard was a genuine pretend-NUCLEAR physicist. Even Tom Cruise would know that.

When it was first announced THE MASTER was going to be fiction, I was disappointed. I wanted to see a movie about Hubbard, Quentin, Mary Sue or someone real. However, this could be better. Taking some of the focus off Hubbard and his manifold craziness, it will be better to shift the drama to one of his adherents and show the interaction with the master and the result. In this way the public gets a better idea of the vulnerability of some of the followers of a scientology-like cult leader.

Noah Miller
Noah Miller

Actually I just signed a lease near south main street, thought I was getting away from all this Hubbard up in Arrowhead, silly me, that street runs through the Lincoln Heights area.

Jgg
Jgg

Yes, and the tomato was in pain!

DMSTCC
DMSTCC

Something tells me he most likely audited his own stools. "Takes one to know one" kind of thing.

NoMoreVisitsPlease
NoMoreVisitsPlease

"...reminiscent of the plans of a bunch of eight-year-olds in a treehouse plotting to take over the school and mandate unlimited chocolate cake and ice cream in the cafeteria every day.  In fact, that same 8-year-old fantasy style of thinking characterizes much of Scientology, including the fake navy adventures on the ships and back on land, and so much more."

I have used this exact analogy myself...it's nice to be validated!

V for Vacation
V for Vacation

I'm speculating that it actually might be a good thing all around that the similarities are loose or general -- the LRH/CoS references will be unmistakably there, but the "artistic license" may result in a really good story that addresses all kinds of issues that all cults deal with -- one writer said you could also see correlations with Mormonism, and I'm hoping for a larger history lesson about the post war era and the oncoming '60s/'70s counter-culturalism that helped so many other cults spawn and thrive.  It will be interesting to see the story from the adherent's point of view, and all of the various effects the characters have on each other, mirroring what happens to both sides in real life. 

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