OWS Supporter Argues Sleeping On Sidewalks Is Important Because It Could Inspire Kids To Be Lazy

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We seem to have rustled a few feathers in the Occupy Wall Street community yesterday with a post we penned asking whether the OWS movement has finally achieved "joke" status. The post was in response to the general consensus amongst the mainstream media that many of the OWS protesters can't be taken seriously for a variety of reasons -- particularly their lack of jobs, satisfactory hygiene, maturity, and a clear message. The New York Post even called the occupiers "bums."

We can now add a Voice reader -- who actually argued yesterday that sleeping on the street "can make a difference" because it could inspire kids to "drop out" and say "fuck all you lame assed suits" -- to the list of reasons why OWS isn't taken seriously.

The sleeping on the street comment, of course, was only after this commenter -- who goes by the handle "Mantelln" -- advocated killing cops and claimed all Americans are racist imperialists.

See the complete comment below (all sic).

Dude, you should think about the shit you are saying and how irrelevant to important issues and culturally biased your opinions are and how press like this is worthless.

Back in the good old days of America, people would have shot those cops and burned the banks (if good old Americans hadn't been such racist imperialists...).

Sleepin on the sidewalk can make a difference, btw. Some kid sees that and thinks, wow fuck all you lame punk assed suits, I wanna drop out! Why should people work so hard in this country when half of the work is bullshit designed to make some douche bag you don't agree with rich, and the other half goes to killing or enslaving people in developing countries to make some other douche bag rich?

Now, we don't know if this person actually is part of the OWS movement (we provided "Mantelln" our email address but haven't received any response), and the commenter could possibly just be posting inflammatory comments just to rile people up -- although, that seems unlikely; "Mantelln" made other slightly less absurd comments in support of OWS in the comment section of the same post.

Regardless, there you have it -- if anyone is still wondering why OWS isn't taken seriously, the comment above should clear up any confusion.

As we pointed out yesterday, not every member of the OWS movement advocates killing cops. Nor do they all think working hard is "bullshit." But some apparently do, which makes the movement as a whole look ridiculous. In other words, any point OWS may have is immediately lost when idiots like "Mantelln" open their mouths (or bite cops, dress like hobos, sleep in the street, or dump buckets of feces and urine in lower Manhattan).

Sure, we'd love to live in a fantasy land where nobody has to work, nobody has to shower, and unicorns farting rainbows are galloping down Broadway. Unfortunately, this is the real world -- and when you start advocating laziness and killing cops, you tend to lose a little credibility.

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Nutones
Nutones

That person's views should not be taken to represent the OWS movement.

Christopher Neal
Christopher Neal

Excellent article.

What we have here is a lesson in avoiding personal responsibility, as taught directly from Obama.

If we examine the quote: 

"Why should people work so hard in this country when half of the work is bullshit designed to make some douche bag you don't agree with rich, and the other half goes to killing or enslaving people in developing countries to make some other douche bag rich?" 

what we see going on here is a concern over OTHER PEOPLE's efforts that cripple's one's own.

Just as Obama now says, "Hey, instead of looking at my own failed efforts thus far, why don't we look "Forward" instead." Or "Instead of looking at my own failed efforts thus far, don't look at me, look at Romney." Pathetic.

Alan
Alan

Occupy Stupidity thanks The Village Voice Blogs for the free publicity!  We urge readers to visit the site and form their own opinions of the content published there (as this article is not quoting anything from Occupy Stupidity). Your readers should know first that Occupy Stupidity would look at the OWS movement more favorably if the wookies wouldn't park their rainbow-farting-unicorns right in the way of pedestrian traffic.  ;-)

Christopher Neal
Christopher Neal

What's a "wookie?"

I wanna get me one of them unicorns...

Angela Garcia as NeonMosfet
Angela Garcia as NeonMosfet

Wookie? That's something that drives your car, when you can not, because there are too many rainbows dribbling from your rear. It will then tear your arms from the sockets, when you try to reclaim your keys.

Angela Garcia as NeonMosfet

Angela Garcia as NeonMosfet
Angela Garcia as NeonMosfet

Depends. In some circles, it's better to keep your Wookie hidden, because everyone will want one.

Angela Garcia as NeonMosfet

Jethro
Jethro

Wow, someone posted something stupid on the internet?  I can't believe it.  We must get to the bottom of this immediately!

Angela Garcia as NeonMosfet
Angela Garcia as NeonMosfet

"Tin Soldiers and Nixon's coming, four dead in Ohio."  You assholes know nothing.

Angela Garcia as NeonMosfet  

CurriculumVeto
CurriculumVeto

Are inflammatory supporters like Maintelln part of Occupy's image problem? Absolutely. But idiots abound everywhere in every political organization. Worse for the movement by far are news outlets like the Voice who represent fringe comments as representative of OWS as a whole. Elevating clowns like Maintelln to the status of Spokesman for a Movement as King does in this post is unfair and irresponsible, and I suspect he knows it. I can find equally off-the-wall comments in any right-leaning blog (or sports blog or celebrity blog, etc etc etc.). The media loves to turn the camera toward the loudest and wackiest, and its massively disingenuous when they turn it around and blame the movements they cover for their own ADHD impulses and love of easy targets.

And when you say OWS is not taken seriously, I have to ask "by who?" Unions and immigrant groups, both of whom were out in force on May Day, seem to see the movement as a serious ally. Thinkers like Nobel Laureate Joseph Stiglitz takes OWS seriously (http://www.thedailybeast.com/a.... I'd rather have these folks on my side than snide, know-it-all bloggers.

I know that there are segments of the population that scoff at Occupy, but its condescending journalists like King who enable this far more than the errant idiot commenter.

Christopher Neal
Christopher Neal

So there it is: dropping out is the new American Dream. Why work? Obama will feed us.

MarcabianFleetCommander
MarcabianFleetCommander

The over-the-top rhetoric is a bit suspect. Could be a right wing "blog warrior" or just some troll. I support OWS, and I'm not naive enough to deny that there are some individuals in the movement who certainly don't help its credibility. I do, however, find it annoying / frustrating  that these are the individuals to whom the media accords the maximum coverage / face time. As far as the New York Post is concerned, I don't consider that rag any more credible than Faux N00z or any of the other Murdoch entities. Right wing media and their corporate masters understand the potential threat of OWS and the overall Occupy movement and know that they have to do everything they can to discredit it before it gains too much traction with the 'common folk'. 

James King
James King

 If all OWS supporters were as logical and rational as you, they wouldn't have a credibility problem. Thank you for the breath of fresh air.

MarcabianFleetCommander
MarcabianFleetCommander

Thank you for the compliment. There are, actually, many OWS / Occupy supporters who are just as logical and rational as I am. The problem, as I stated  in my original post, is that very few of these individuals manage to find themselves in front of a camera, or get any other kind of media coverage. The only way to get an accurate picture of the movement is to research it for yourself, for example over the internet. There are, however, very few people who have this kind of commitment to find out the truth. (This holds for other issues as well, not just Occupy.) Most people get their information from a mainstream media outlet. They are ubiquitous and present everything pre-packaged, nice and convenient. Why look anywhere else? Why not let them do your thinking for you? (Anyway, you get the idea. This isn't meant to be a rant.)  My personal opinion is that the Occupy movement as a whole needs to pause for some very serious introspection. I think that we should be looking to the great movements of the past, such as the early Labor Movement and the Civil Rights movement. They were "doing it right". These early histories have much to teach us.

AK
AK

I think you went easy on them king only a little lost credibility.

James King
James King

 I'm gettin' soft in my old age.

GREECE
GREECE

I ain't eating those lucky charms... Dam'n hippies...

GERMANY
GERMANY

You can't afford Lucky Charms, GREECE. Soon you will have to eat mud pies like they do in NORTH KOREA.

GREECE
GREECE

I love unicorns farting rainbows...

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