Ursula Caberta on Scientology: "You Have to Be Always Watching Them"

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Ursula Caberta
This week, a 90-minute documentary about Scientology's intelligence-gathering wing, the Office of Special Affairs, aired on the French and German cultural channel ARTE.

Titled "Office of Special Affairs: Der Scientology-Geheimdienst" (Scientology's Secret Service), it included interviews with several people very familiar to readers of this blog: Marc Headley, Mike Rinder, Gerry Armstrong, and Tiziano Lugli. It also featured Ursula Caberta, the Hamburg politician who for years led a state-sponsored attempt to curb Scientology. We spoke to her on the telephone yesterday about the documentary. After the jump, her thoughts, as well as the documentary itself, with English subtitles.

"I think it's a good thing to do 90 minutes only on OSA," Caberta said to me from her home in Hamburg. The documentary focuses on the spy wing of the church, which also handles PR and legal affairs. The filmmakers are especially eager to talk to Rinder, who ran OSA for many years.

I asked Caberta if the documentary, airing on ARTE, would get good exposure.

"A lot of people in France and Germany will see it," she says. "The most interesting thing for us is the US government's role, how Scientology influences the US government. And how easy it is to get Washington DC to work for them. I think this is very important for us here in Germany to know."

She's referring to the way the US State Department has repeatedly gone to bat for the church, admonishing the German and French governments, who treat Scientology as a controversial business, not a religion.

"It changed with Clinton. I remember when Madeleine Albright came to Germany," says Caberta. "One of the most important things she wanted to talk about was discrimination against Scientologists by the German government. This was in 1993. In Germany and in France, government people said, 'Are you stupid, Ms. Albright?' A lot of people were very surprised."

In 2007, Caberta came out with her own book about Scientology's abuses, Schwarzbuch Scientology (The Black Book of Scientology).

"The US government, they came and asked me about the book. You can write a book about it? they asked. Yes, I live in a free country, I told them."

Despite the efforts made at the state level, she says attempts to ban Scientology on a federal level in Germany have failed because of American influence.

"In German law, we have the ability to ban a foreign organization if it's working against our constitution. The Scientology technology and what they're doing is against our constitution. It's a foreign group because the headquarters is in America. I'm sure that the German federal government did nothing to ban them because the US government did something to prevent it," she says.

In France, I pointed out, an appeals court upheld a decision that Scientology is a fraudulent business. Did this have an effect in Germany?

"It's very helpful, but France has very different laws than in Germany. It's easier to bring them to court in France. But it is helpful," she says. "And in Belgium, prosecutors for ten years are treating Scientology like a criminal organization. I heard a few days ago that the prosecutors are about to do something. We'll see. It could be very helpful."

In 2010, the Hamburg state ended its Scientology Task Force which she headed, for budgetary reasons. But she says she hasn't stopped keeping an eye on David Miscavige's organization.

"It's always the same, if you are not looking at what they are doing, they will grow in two or three years. You have to be always watching them."

Here's the 90-minute documentary, with English subtitles. Below, I'll list some highlights.

For me, the interviews with Headley, Rinder, and Armstrong were pretty familiar. But I thought the film worked best when it was describing the experiences of Ingo Heinemann, who runs a website critical of Scientology, and who was followed and harassed by OSA. We know this because the filmmakers also interview the OSA spy who sifted through Heinemann's garbage -- a man named Norman Suchanek.

We also learn that Rinder, when he was running OSA, considered Caberta a "pain in the ass."

Another highlight for me was the interview with French journalist Serge Faubert, who explains some of the mysterious problems with the French fraud prosecutions.

It's also nice to see what cool digs Tiziano has in the hills above LA -- and to see him confront one of the 70 different private investigators he's observed following him and casing his house.

On the down side, it felt like the filmmakers wasted time trying to get an interview with Tommy Davis. By this time last year, it was becoming clear that he'd been dropped as chief spokesman of the church, and we hear he's now spending time with his ill wife.

As Caberta says, the really interesting thing regarding OSA and Europe is the way Scientology continues to get support from the American government, even with so many revelations about its abuses in this country. The film could have used a little more focus on that, and less on all of its travels to various American Scientology sites. Just my 2 cents.

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Samantha Domingo Featured in the Sun

Last July, we brought the exclusive story that Placido Domingo Jr. had decided to leave Scientology after it hassled him about his ex-wife, Samantha.

Samantha had left Scientology earlier and had dared to visit Marty Rathbun in Texas. Placido told us that this upset church officials so much, they insisted that he "disconnect" from her or face retaliation.

Although he and Samantha had divorced, they remain close friends and help each other raise their three daughters. Placido told church attorneys that he refused their suggestion to break away from his ex.

In retaliation, Placido told us, the church leaked private information he had told auditors in confidence by way of attack websites. Disgusted with the church's behavior, Placido told us he was washing his hands of Scientology.

Now, the Sun in the UK has a great story about Samantha and her own experience in Scientology, which included being forced to have an abortion during a previous marriage.

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(Samantha is just one of many former Sea Org women who say they were forced to have abortions in order to keep up the relentless 100-hour work weeks in the organization.)

From the Sun piece...

Sam found herself falling for a colleague called Michael and they married. Despite being on the pill, she got pregnant. The church's response chills her to this day.

She said: "I was told in no uncertain terms this was not to be -- and to have an abortion as it was for the greater good.

"It felt like I had just committed a criminal act, the way they reacted. I was full of shock and horror. As I believed in this organisation at the time, the only option was utter compliance. My passport had been taken from me, so I couldn't just pack up and fly home.

"An 'ethics officer' helped arrange an abortion at a free clinic and I was given a week off to recover and then I was back on post as if nothing had happened.

"Michael and I divorced a short time later."


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Scientology Sunday Funnies!

Just about every day, we receive the latest wacky and tacky fundraising mailers put out by Scientology orgs around the world. Thank you, tipsters, for forwarding them to us! On Sundays, we love to reveal them to you.

This week, rather than a colorful flier, we have an e-mail that was forwarded to us late Friday night. We had to agree with the tipster who sent it to us, who wrote: "Oh, dear! Heads will roll. David Miscavige is supposed to be at this grand opening. I hope he had more than one day's notice. My OT powers sense a big flap."

From: OC Ideal Org Live! [mailto:cofsorangecounty@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 1:08 PM To: Orange County Subject: Re: OC Grand Opening.

Hello!

Due to unforeseen construction delays we are postponing our grand opening and it will not be tomorrow the 19th of May. We can assure you that we are very close and we will be opening very soon!

Watch for our calls and emails informing you of the specifics and please spread the word to any other people you know that the opening will not be this Saturday.

If you have any questions or want more info on the opening feel free to contact any staff member at: 714-544-5491

See you at the Grand Opening!

Thank you,

OC Org Grand Opening I/C


We also received several e-mails this week which were all on a similar theme -- Super Power.

Apparently, there's suddenly a frantic effort to staff up and sell the Super Power rundowns -- a sign that Miscavige is trying to keep what appeared to be a promise at the Birthday Event in March to open the Super Power building by June 21. (I'm getting oily just thinking of it.)

From: "Superpower" Date: May 13, 2012 4:15:15 PM CDT To: Subject: A Message From The Super Power Project In-Charge

Our future holds a tremendous rocket ride for a being. With the 12 rundowns of Super Power, each and every Scientologist will be armed with the tools to truly effectively lead and master life. With your 57 channels of communication rehabilitated, your perceptions as a theta being will be at a level you have always dreamed of. And with the Cause Resurgence Rundown, a being will be totally aligned with total power and ability to be cause across the dynamics. These rundowns will drastically change the face of Earth.

It is the purpose of the Church of Scientology Religious Trust to expand the religion of Scientology and through its Super Power Expansion Project, you have been or have an opportunity to be part of the most historical project ever in Scientology. We are building our OT base and the center from which true power will be channeled across the planet. Its establishment of the entire New Flag Land Base is a strategic step in the plans to fully clear Earth.

I encourage you to see this project to full completion with your contributions. Our plans are to be delivering Super Power to you in the near future so that you will take this new level of power and ability and change the world. I look forward to hearing back from you soon.

Sincerely,

Lauri Webster
Super Power Project In-Charge

Contact your Super Power Representative today at:

Phone
Flag On-Board Representative: (727) 467-6946
VIP Representative: (727) 467-5039
Europe Representative: +45-33737799

E-mail
Flag Office: superpowerproject@earthlink.net
Europe Office: superpowereurope@gmail.com

Address
Flag Office: 319 S Garden Ave
Clearwater, FL 33756

Europe Office: Jernbanegade 6
1608 Copenhagen V
Denmark


What Is Super Power?

In 1978, LRH wrote about Super Power in Ron's Journal 30: "1978, The Year of Lightning New Fast Tech." He called it:

"A super fantastic, but confidential series of Rundowns that can be done on anyone whether Dianetic Clear or not that puts the person into fantastic shape unleashing the Super Power of a thetan... It consists of 12 separate high‑power rundowns which are brand new and enter realms of the tech never before approached." -- LRH

This was the year that he researched and released New Era Dianetics and NED for OTs. He called Super Power the most major technical breakthrough of that year! Super Power first addresses barriers to a person's ability to DO and to OPERATE, and handles these. Then the person is raised up to greater awareness of his environment. And finally it raises his competence level in his activities in life. Super Power raises the power of a thetan!

LRH made a discovery about perception during his research of these rundowns. A being has 57 perceptions and each one of them has channels along which he can sense things. LRH found that difficulties along a particular sense channel can exist despite there being nothing wrong with the sense channel itself. On Super Power, drills exist which train a thetan to perceive along each of the 57 sense channels.

Imagine doing a process that increases the ability to perceive magnetic fields, or the saline content of the body, or compass direction. How about having every one of the 57 sense channels open and operating and completely under one's control? That's just one of the 12 rundowns!

During the early days of research into Super Power, LRH found a new phenomenon and said:

"Apparently during the last decade, a new factor has entered into the culture that was previously only rare, possibly due to lowered educational standards or the declining nature of the culture itself, but most probably due to one of the common drugs or medications or even food deficiencies. A percentage which was only one or two seems to have jumped up to eighty or ninety. This factor is visible in a decline in the ability to tell identities, similarities and differences. The factor can be called 'Disassociation'."

-- LRH

Disassociation from situations, present time and in life, is a severe barrier to a being's ability and power. Think of a time you were trying to concentrate on something but were distracted. You didn't get much done. Well, multiply that to the nth degree in all activities in life and you get an idea of the extreme this can go to. Not everyone by a long shot suffers from it to this degree, but it can be present in varying degrees, any of which is HANDLED on Super Power.

These separate rundowns, audited in order, will take a thetan through the exact actions in sequence that he would use to perform effectively and dynamically on any post or job. It starts with handling a person's ability to be fully in‑ethics on all dynamics, then it addresses and handles any reason why a person might be stuck at a low point on the tone scale, his ability to predict consequences, his ability to assimilate and use data, to make decisions, and to be at cause over what occurs in his life.

Super Power was very appropriately named by LRH as it unleashes the true power of a thetan. Super Power does not replace the Grade Chart and can be run on any pc anywhere on the Grade Chart providing he is not in the middle of another major rundown and has handled any harmful effects of drugs, alcohol and medicine. The results are spectacular wherever the pc receives it.

Right now Scientologists are in a unique position. Normally tech breakthroughs are put together, printed and released and then the public have the opportunity to come in and take the new service. This release is very different as one has the opportunity to be part of getting out the release of a brilliant piece of LRH tech which will make world clearing a reality in the not too distant future. It is a once‑in‑a‑lifetime opportunity. Be part of spearheading the way now!


THE 12 SUPER POWER RUNDOWNS

Ethics and Justice Repair Rundown
Personal Revival Rundown
Consequences Rundown
Bright Think Rundown
Study Rundown
False Data and Loss Rundown (Part I)
False Data Rundown (Part II)
Cause Rundown.
Power of Choice Rundown
Perception Rundown
Perception Drills
Learning Drills
Physical Universe Drills


SOME OF THE THINGS THESE RUNDOWNS CAN ACCOMPLISH ARE:

Releasing a person from out‑ethics on all flows on all dynamics.

Removing any reason for a thetan to remain at or below death on the tone scale.

Unsticking a person from points of disassociation on the track.

Putting him in shape to predict and build a future.

Removing the causes of any inability to assimilate data and learn.

Freeing a person from a fundamental mechanism which pins him to false data.

Straightening out his ability to think.

Restoring his power of choice over data, situations and activities.

Heightening his cause level.

Sharpening his perceptics and in many cases restoring perceptics the person had thought to be lost or impaired or non‑existent.

(Another breakthrough LRH made during the time he was researching Super Power was that a thetan can have missing or impaired perceptics stemming from reasons quite in addition to case and he developed a dynamite handling for this.)

Orienting a person to his activities in life, from the new viewpoint of having had all the gains from the earlier rundowns.

Late in 1978, LRH had auditors brought in from all over to train on Super Power and this was the advent of the New World Corps.

However, he found that the standards of the TRs and metering needed to deliver Super Power were lacking and from this need to make auditors with the presence and basic auditing skills to deliver Super Power, he researched this, which led to the developments resulting in the Key To Life Course which was followed by the Hubbard Life Orientation Course.

Super Power is the original tech breakthrough which led to all these other tech releases and now that these other courses (which represent steps needed to ensure proper training of Super Power auditors) are firmly in place, Super Power itself can be released.


Here's a flier featuring the Turnaround King himself...

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And finally, here's a real treat from the UK: shiny happy people at Saint Hill Manor!


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Commenters of the Week!

Last week, we kicked things off by breaking news about the lyrics to "So Long," a second Lisa Marie Presley song from her album Storm and Grace that appears to describe her break from Scientology.

John P. agreed with us that this second song seems to settle things...

The lyrics to this song added to the last one seem to remove any doubt that Lisa Marie Presley is out. She might launch an outright attack, or she might smile coyly and deflect any questions about whether the lyrics are specifically about Scientology, unless the church, under crazed Chihuahua-like leader David Miscavige, does something to "fair game" her, then she goes to war.

TheHoleDoesNotExist noted that this news was coming on a significant date...

Happy Mother's Day, Lisa Marie Presley! And welcome to the real world. I wish you the best outcome with all your family huddled around you and with you on this. You have given your children the best gift any Mom can give her family: Free will. By now you have realized that is what Scientology takes away, one choice, one decision, and one manipulation at a time until that day comes when even your children or parents are put on the potential enemy list.

And anne captured the mood of many, who'd been feeling a bit down...

Been a tad depressed ever since the Deb Cook case settled,and feeling somewhat defeated. But along comes Lisa Marie singing this song,and once again I feel the warmth of the sun. Here comes the sun..... Bless you Lisa is all I can say, bless you.

Monday, we noticed that Lisa Marie had removed nearly every mention of Scientology from her website -- and soon after we pointed out one last remnant, it too disappeared. But later, some mentions of CCHR reappeared on the site, so who knows.

Kate Bornstein offered an explanation for how Lisa Marie's songs could so plainly describe her defection, at the same time that her public statements are more ambiguous.

I think I understand why she's not saying "Scientology." When I first started talking about Scientology, years ago, I also used veiled language. When you're a member of that group for as long as she was, you're scared to speak out at first. It's websites like this that finally give a person the courage to call a cult a cult. What she's saying -- veiled as it is -- is already powerful. I look forward to the day she knows she can speak and sing freely.

Bruce Hines answered Kate's statement with his own...

I can corroborate this. After I left I was scared to say anything to anybody. Plus, I still avoided researching Scientology on the Internet. Gradually, I started to read things online that were negative about the Co$. It became clear to me that many others had had similar experiences to mine. One tends to think that the things that happened to oneself were isolated incidents, not general. Then, via the Internet, I got back in touch with Chuck Beatty, who was a friend in the Sea Org. He pointed out that Dan Garvin had posted a lot about his Sea Org experiences with no retaliation from the Co$. But I was still very careful. Slowly I became more relaxed about it. Then some family members close to me, who were still in the Co$, disconnected. Several months later a reporter (Richard Leiby of the Washington Post) contacted me, via Chuck, and wanted to interview me. As I had no more family to lose at that point, I agreed to the interview, though still with some trepidation. This was over a year and a half after I had left. From there, I gradually gained more courage to speak out more. But it definitely is something, in my opinion, that goes through stages. None of it would have happened without the knowledge and opinions available on the Internet. It is heartening to realize that someone working for Lisa Marie, or she herself, is reading about Scientology on the Internet.

On Wednesday, we brought you the story of Derek Bloch, a young man who had grown up in Scientology, discovered he was gay, and then became disaffected with the church. After he wrote up his experiences anonymously at the Ex-Scientologist Message Board, Scientology declared him a suppressive person and his entire family kicked him out of their house and "disconnected" from him.

Many of our readers expressed support for Derek. We were moved by all of them. There was this message from Chocolate Velvet...

Derek, first of all, congratulations on breaking away! As a mother, I am utterly outraged at the way your parents handed you over to Scientology. No child should ever be bereft of his parents' concern and protection. One day, they will wake up to their mistakes, and I assure you the grief will not be something they can audit away. I am glad you are telling your story, and building a life outside of the Sea Org. It is so hard to leave behind what you are brought up to believe, and I applaud your courage. There are lots of people who know how it is, because they've been there -- they'll be reaching out to offer support now that your story is spreading. It is very sad that your family has chosen not to be a part of your life -- but we all know the coercion that goes on, so bless 'em and I hope they wake up soon. As for you, Derek, may your life continue to get better, bigger, and more truly free.

Patty Moher wrote from the heart...

Derek, thanks so much for your courage and taking a stand against this cult. I was a homophobic Scientologist for 27 years and thought and felt as your parents do. Fortunately for me, when I left the cult and stripped myself of cult thinking my homophobia left me. Now I am a strong supporter of gay/lesbian rights and my very closest and dearest friends that I love with all my life are a lesbian couple that are like my sisters. So dear Derek, don't give up hope on your family. They too may come to their senses one day.

And Artoo45 got angry...

As a gay man Derek's story makes my blood boil. As a human being it brings tears to my eyes. Mr. Miscavige is a walking example of Hubbard's tech in action. Both tortured and torturer, his virulent homophobia combined with his masculinity obsession says only one thing to me. I grieve for the abuses he must have endured to end up as such a sociopath, but not as much as I grieve for those who have been his victims.

On Friday, we reported that an enterprising New Zealand reporter, having read our stories on Lisa Marie Presley's songs, asked her outright about their lyrics seeming to describe her defection from Scientology. She begged off, but didn't deny that her songs are about her leaving.

Gina Smith offered this explanation for what Lisa Marie might be going through...

I can understand she wouldn't want the publicity about her blowing to overshadow what seems to be some pretty decent music that she's made. All Lisa Marie's life she's been overshadowed by famous parents and husbands, even her religion, so it's understandable she wants to let the music be the focus for just once. Something she created on her own. Heck, I saw a tabloid story about one of her children and the empasis was all on 'Elvis' grandson'. It has to be rough when the world can't even give you credit for your own kid.

Mimi the Great pointed out that Lisa Marie has a lot to lose if she's more plain...

A Lisa Marie Presley non-answer is just as telling. If she were still a happy parishioner....or a parishioner in any sense, a non answer wouldn't be acceptable. If she's left, it's obvious she has family IN, a non answer may be her attempt to keep that family intact for as long as she can.

And finally, wannabeclear offered this well-reasoned assessment...

If Lisa Marie wanted to shut down any talk that her lyrics are anti-Scientology, she could have answered that question by simply saying "no." If pressed further she could have then said that as a rule she doesn't discuss what her lyrics are about or religion. Instead she said she was backed into a corner. That seems pretty telling. Why would she feel backed into a corner if it weren't true?

Writing those lyrics was a huge step for someone who has been indoctrinated and influenced (and damaged) by this cult for so long. Despite the brave declaration in her music, I wouldn't discount the amount of fear of influence that must still exist for her. Creating a statement in a piece of art is one thing, and the fact that it's art provides cover the intentions of the lyrics -- a sort of plausible deniability. Whereas, coming out and saying, "yes, this shit fucked me up and I'm done with it" to a journalist is a whole other level that could be be enormously daunting.

I think it's natural that recovery would not be an overnight process. It takes a long time to shake the damage that's been done and despite the need to do so, that cognitive dissonance is an ugly beast that can rear its head even after the spell has been broken. The removal and reinstatement of the CCHR propaganda on her website would seem to be evidence of that ambivalence.

Well, this was a busy week. And my personal thanks if you've managed to plow through all this material in what turned out to be quite a voluminous Sunday post.

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New readers might want to check out our primer, "What is Scientology?" Another good overview is our series from last summer, "Top 25 People Crippling Scientology." At the top of every story, you'll see the "Scientology" category which, if you click on it, will bring up all of our most recent stories.

As for hot subjects we've covered here, you may have heard about Debbie Cook, the former church official who rebelled and was sued by Scientology. You might have also heard about the Super Power Building, Scientology's "Mecca," whose secrets were revealed here. We also reported how Scientology spied on its own most precious object, Tom Cruise. (We wrote Tom an open letter that he has yet to respond to.) Have you seen a Scientology ad on TV lately? We debunked some of the claims in that 2-minute commercial you might have seen while watching Glee or American Idol.

Other stories have looked at Scientology's policy of "disconnection" that is tearing families apart. You may also have heard something about the Sea Org experiences of the Paris sisters, Valeska and Melissa, and their friend Ramana Dienes-Browning. We've also featured Paulette Cooper, who wrote about Scientology back in the day, and Janet Reitman, Hugh Urban, and the team at the Tampa Bay Times, who write about it today. And there's plenty more coming.

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CanuckXenu
CanuckXenu

According to IMDB, PTA called up Harvey Weinstein at 2 a.m. at the Cannes Film Festival and asked permission to post the trailer.

Guess he was really excited about it!

DodoTheLaser
DodoTheLaser

Marty and Tony reported that Hy Levy passed has passed away last night.Complications caused by cancer. Hy was Flag super reg who loudly turnedIndi last year. It's sad, I didn't expect it. Glad he helped to expose The MoneyMachine. Rest In Peace, Hy.

Are_sics
Are_sics

It never ceases to amaze me how bad a writer Elron was.

Is he really trying to sell the idea of the Super Power with the description: A super fantastic, but confidential series of Rundowns ??

First of all, "super fantastic" makes it sound like he's going for the under-roos crowd.  And they don't have any money.  But also, it's probably one of the more truthful, or accurate, phrases in the entire Elron oeuvre.  I wonder if he word-cleared "fantastic"?

CanuckXenu
CanuckXenu

By the way, am I the only one who is a bit freaked out by the "Flag" command when posting or reading messages?

When I first started hanging out here I thought it was a link that sent comments directly to the Fort Harrison Hotel!

CanuckXenu
CanuckXenu

John Travolta daily update, for those keeping score:

That DUI lawyer is now suing Gloria Allred for "stealing" his clients John Doe #1 and #2.

Meanwhile, John Doe #2 has been "outed".  He's a massive African-American dude who looks like he could be a linebacker.  I wonder if he can cook hamburgers...

Photo and story here:

http://www.tmz.Kom/2012/05/20/john-travolta-accuser-john-truesdale-photo/

Jgg
Jgg

  That's right, CanuckXenu, Does #1 and 2 are being represented by the same lawyer who is also representing a Miss Canada contestant who was disqualified because she was actually a man, a New Jersey woman who worked for an Orthodox Jewish couple who fired her for wearing revealing clothing, and other strong cases.

CanuckXenu
CanuckXenu

Riveting trailer for The Master.  The comments are pretty interesting--lots of talk about the cult and El Wrong:

http://t.KO/BMCUOwCo

MaxiElias
MaxiElias

Subtitles don't work on iPad and iPhone :(

Too Much
Too Much

"..the saline content of the body..."

Not to mention your oil level.

Too Much
Too Much

"...your perceptions as a theta being will be at a level you have always dreamed of."

Which, curiously enough, always seem to include Drew Barrymore.

Too Much
Too Much

"I remember when Madeleine Albright came to Germany..."

Albright is a Christian terrorist who invited Saddam Heissein to invade Kuwaite, stating that the United States would not object because "Your dispite is an Arab matter."

It's not at all surprising that the terrorist cunt would do Scientology's bidding.

bobx
bobx

You have the wrong person, and have messed up the story.  It was under Bush Sr. (Albright was under Clinton); the official who talked to Hussein was named Gillespie; what she was talking about was the dispute over which oil fields Iraq and Kuwait owned, and she correctly said that we had no position about the exact location of the borders (Britain left that poorly surveyed).  It has been suggested that Hussein thought that meant we wouldn't care if he invaded and took over the whole country, but if Hussein really thought that it is just a sign of insanity on his part.

Brainslugged
Brainslugged

I love the last line of the video "if you like a good game, join the Sea Org". What, like "C-note Sunday" (or whatever the fcuk they called it) - donate $100, then ring all your friends and get them to donate $100. Think I'll stick to Hungry Hippos thankyouverymuch.

And that tool at 2:24 looks like he's had some of whatever they juiced Tom Cruise up with before he started jumping on Oprah's couch.

bobx
bobx

They definitely to word-clear "game"You keep using that word, but I do not think it means what you think it means.

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

Did anyone else see the Village Voice TMZ video where Will Smith slapped a guy in Moscow for kissing him twice on the cheek?

I liked the way the crowd reacted. Scientology celebs are are taking a beating. Maybe he thought it was gay? Wait, isn't he another "in the closet" scientology gay?

Heather Grace
Heather Grace

To be honest, I thought Will was pretty restrained.

scilonschools
scilonschools

Dear Sam Domingo!She is a real trooper, last October she held a 'social'  for concerned parties when Mike Rinder was visiting the UK.The 'Church' set up a gauntlet outside that all visitors had to cross, The head of UK CCHR was manning the picket and the abuse to visitors and Sam's daughters was totally UNACCEPTABLE!emailed a video link to you Tony, also available on You Tube channel of Scilonschools. 

jensting
jensting

This could, of course, do with firstly being approved for the greatest possible audience by the author, secondly being pointed out in a comment on the Sun website.

Oh, and next time, no-one has to "cross a gauntlet" in the UK, and the police is very much able to enforce that - they certainly have against protesters in the past, plus this was presumably at a private residence (tsk, tsk OSA!).

The criminal organisation known as the "church" of $cientology likes to go on about its religious freedom, but seems remarkable relaxed about - not to say hostile to - the religious freedoms of others.

scilonschools
scilonschools

All best watched at axiom142 you tube site (October 22 2011), 'Scientologist grags my camera' also a great UK ;'Hit'.Axiom142 was on staff for many years, he is a great guy who was tricked and now tries to expose the abuses.(Still think GeorgeOT8 takes some beating!!)

jensting
jensting

 Found it on axiom142's channel. Serious by English standards and always worth reporting to establish a pattern of behaviour. Plus if anyone, especially children, were distressed by it, we're talking about actionable harassment; religiously aggravated - at that. Not to mention its importance as documentation of the intolerance towards the free practise of religion display by the criminal organisation known as the "church" of $cientology.

Hmm, OSA spreading lies about "hate crimes." Didn't go so well, some time ago : http://www.escapeint. DOT org/legal/apology.htm (replacing one DOT) (to recap: COSRECI and three named clams, including English spokesclam Graeme Wilson, apologised in the High Court and paid Bonnie Woods a settlement and signed an injunction to not make up lies against Bonnie ever again; no, Bonnie did not sign anything to get the settlement :) )

Oh, and beware of clams carrying babies in East Grinstead. Just saying.

jensting
jensting

Got it in axiom142's channel. A nice view.

Not an actionable gauntlet, I don't think, and I would be surprised if there were anyone other than Mike Rinder who was libelled. But it's an impressive show of determination to intimidate a group of people who might be attempting to practise scientology without paying royalties to the criminal organisation known as the "church" of $cientology.

Sigh. It's not like the good old days, is it OSA? But then again, the good old days probably ended in 1999 when (1) SHEILA CHALEFF (2) GRAHAM WILSON (3) CATHY SPROULE and (4) CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY RELIGIOUS EDUCATION COLLEGE INC were made to apologise in the High Court  for making up lies and leafletting Bonnie Woods' neighbourhood. http://www.escapeint DOT org/legal/apology.htm replacing one DOT

Then, OSA had distributed leaflets describing Bonnie Woods as a "hate campaigner." Now, picket signs proclaim that Mike Rinder is somehow linked to "hate crime." Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.

Oh, and beware of clams carrying babies. Seriously. This could be a great new wheeze of OSA UK's - a random passer-by (or was he?) and his baby had a go at me in East Grinstead. As good as nothing came of it after the police caught him (the not-so-high-speed chase in the police car to apprehend and bring in for questioning the baby-wielding passer-by was good, tho'). Just saying: anti-Co$ protests, East Grinstead and babies == heads up!

Torychristman
Torychristman

Thank you, Tony, VV, Ursela, and Sam as well as ALL who have added comments! What a great day. I want you all to know that within the last 48 hours a Sea Org Member has departed the building, with police assistance and is just fine now. :) What you all do, is amazing, and hearing the joy of this person truly is something that is you each should share. I love you all. Thank you, Sam, for sharing your amazing story! It takes great courage to speak out and it helps Sooooooooooooooo many people (Hugs to you all) Tory/Magoo

Entheta Matrix
Entheta Matrix

Thank you for all you do Tory! You're my hero! :) Good work on freeing the latest refugee from the rattrap, and I can't wait to get Tony's treatment of story in an upcoming column.

Chocolate Velvet
Chocolate Velvet

Yes! Another one breaks free! Thanks for the good news, Tory. May there soon be a steady stream of people exiting the Sea Org! I really wonder if any of these police officers that have helped in such situations have stories to tell or opinions about the way this "church" works? Or if anyone has ever looked at the numbers - how many scilons have required police support to leave? Stats like that can make it clear what this organization really does to its members.

Sid
Sid

I'm amazed at The Sun's article on Scientology. It sticks to the facts without any hype or unnecessary side-track into Xenu.

It's one of the few benefits of being a tabloid I guess - you can call a cult a cult, and you can remind people that Cruise and Travolta stick up for this abusive organization - both things that mainstream media seems scared of.

The article is so fascinating that I wouldn't be surprised to see the lady in question appear on some UK TV shows.

DodoTheLaser
DodoTheLaser

If scientology infiltrates, it will be infiltrated. Just a thought.

jensting
jensting

That's just crazy optimism talking! Besides, all the stories about clams beating the e-meter are just that - stories!! Nothing to worry about, David Miscavige!!!

See, I'm obviously delusional in thinking that this comment will get anywhere nearer the COB because his name is listed, as if he's some daft black magic believing ignoramus. And so it is all the way; Homo Novis will see all of us regular probably-below-2.0-on-the-tonesale off.

dbloch7986
dbloch7986

Thanks for everything Tony. I would never have been able to tell it myself. Now I can and have shared my story with friends and my extended family. I owe all that to you man. I'm so glad I trusted you to tell my story.

JustCallMeMary
JustCallMeMary

That Grant Cardone Pasadena Org promo piece really says so much about the illusions of Scientology and scientologists. It also represents a red flag for the many who left the cult after realizing the actualities.

wannabeclear
wannabeclear

While reading the superpower fundraising email, it was nice to see that they warmed up with such a humble and benign promise: "These rundowns will drastically change the face of Earth."  Is that all?  

Nope.  

They go on to mention "things these superpower rundowns can accomplish" and offered: "Removing any reason for a thetan to remain at or below death on the tone scale." Correct me if I'm reading the tone scale wrong, but because they are talking about "at or below death" they must be referring to "body death," right?  So, they've now asserted that superpower rundowns can bring the dead back to life.  Reanimation!  Who knew?

Beware friends.  Apparently the zombie apocalypse begins in Clearwater, Florida on June 21, 2012 (or thereabouts.)  

Or not...

Jgg
Jgg

  There are many eerie similarities between L. Ron Hubbard and Hitler.    Both men failed academically (LRH -- flunked college; Hitler--denied admission to Vienna art school) and then militarily (LRH--dishonorable discharge; Hitler--losing side of WWI and nearly killed).  This was also true of Stalin.  All 3 wanted (subconsciously, if not consciously) revenge on society as a result, and felt inadequate.   Both men misused religion,  Hitler, a nominal Catholic, actually attacked Catholicism when speaking to Protestants, and vice versa.  LRH said a Scientologist can be a Christian, but says Christ did not exist.  

  As a result, both used fascist tactics.   Kim Baker, an ex-scientologist, once wrote a fascinating piece comparing Hubbard and Hitler.  Google it if you like.  And don't ask me why the Clintons defend it so much.   

Noah Miller
Noah Miller

In general I try to avoid Godwin's law, only because it shuts people down. I know if I hear "He's like Hitler" in any conversation, on any subject, I roll my eyes. Just sort of the way it is I guess. I think in this case it diminishes the vile things that Hitler and Hubbard have done.

Sanchez
Sanchez

Anon homework:

"Which piece of hogwash is more well written:  Mein Kamp, or Dianetics?" 

Chuck Beatty
Chuck Beatty

An important indicator of whether Scientology is actually expanding or not, would be to find out how many Class 8 therapists are produced each year by the Advanced Org at Saint Hill.

Class 8 Scientologists are rare, I'd say less than 10 are produced a year in the UK.

It would be good for UK Scientologists to give us the statistics for how many Class 6 Scientologists and Class 8 Scientologists are produced yearly.

That would be a good indicator of how the movement is doing.  

 Thetan-X
Thetan-X

Thanks Chuck, now you go back to work now...scrub scrub scrub, lets go Chuck its going to take all night to clean the floor of this bathroom and all you have is a toothbrush, Sooo Lets get with it Chuck (Charles ?)INDICATE this Chucky, (toothbrush in face), You are not going to POSTULATE these floors being cleaned Chuck (Charley ?), please hand over your wallet before you bend over the toilet, thanks Chuckles, NOW, clean under the rim, using your OWN SO required / supplied dental sanitation implement ...Do not come up for air until you have completed said task and your ETHICS are firmly and un-doubtably IN !! Can you handle this Chuck??What's that? I can't hear you, you...you say you didn't receive the "Dental Sanitation Implement"?Oh NO Chuckles...Make way for the Iron Sausage !!!!******      *******         ******    *******     ******     ********Must I tell you again Chuck? Should I once again kick you in the Nutz Chuck ? Hmmmm?Come on Pie Face SPEAK-UP !!!! yes, you have no toothbrush, you do know what that means? yes ?  Time to moisten up your tongue fella, this is going to take a while !!!Oh no Chuck, no by the way, there will be NO Scope or any other "mouth-wash" !! You see that would constitute a FLUNK, and we would have to start all over in another putrid shit hole !

So Lets Get Busy Pie-Face !!!!

Chuck Beatty
Chuck Beatty

Thanks for the Saint Hill dissemination video.   

People interested in the various echelons of churches in Scientology, might be interested to know that Saint Hill is also an "Advanced Org" or Class 9 level church.

Only Scientologists on the Class 8 Course, taught only at "Advanced orgs" are allowed to listen to the Xenu lecture, the lecture we all can hear on YouTube.

But Scientologists can only hear that secret series of "Class 8" lectures at an Advanced Org.

Also, the Advanced Orgs teach and deliver 3 of the 5 exorcism levels of Scientology.   OT 3, 4, 5 are delivered at Advanced Orgs.

There are 5 secret exorcism levels of Scientology, where they engage in the high volume exorcism of the troublesome "body thetans" (the full secret two word phrase which Scientologists will never say publicly is "body thetans").   It is okay to say the word "thetan", because that simply means the soul.   The two word phrase "body thetans" is the confidential and never spoken two word phrase.   

It is on OT levels 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 that the upper level Scientologists do their confidential exorcism of the dead space alien souls that they believe (they learn to accept) infest ALL human beings.

The real big news about Saint Hill, is that in the UK, it's the only place Scientology teaches and does the high volume exorcism.   

Clearwater, Florida, is where Scientologists are allowed to do OT 6 and 7.    Once they complete OT 7, they have fully exorcised all their "body thetans", finally.  (OT 7 is a level they can do at home, so they come to Clearwater and learn how to do the final streamlined super high volume exorcism, since OT 6 is the level that trains them to do OT 7 on themselves, and then they go home to wherever they live and do the solo exorcism on themselves on OT 7, coming back to Clearwater to be tested they are 'body thetan" free once and for all.)

Mimi The Great
Mimi The Great

Another interesting week for Scientology watching! Thank you again for doing Derek's story. Stories like his always touch me and being a heart wrenching perspective to Scientologys abuses when most others tend to associate this pseudo religon with the celebrities that endorse it. Well done.

Mimi The Great
Mimi The Great

*bring, not being. My phone has an uneducated mind of its own!

Anon anon song
Anon anon song

You're lucky. Most phones are not only uneducated, but they're also lewd at the most masturbate times.

Sent from IPhone

magikcarrot
magikcarrot

Great Doco! Once again im understanding a little more of the other side of scientology's oppressive, paranoid and aggressive mentality to destroy what is not the scientology way. What's Scientology's next move?... Missile Tech? 

Hubbard was a very ill man who really disliked the way the world around him resonated.

Thanks

Jgg
Jgg

  Sad to hear about OC not opening.  What are its 200 full-time staff members going to do, sweep the floors?  And what are Orange County's scientologists going to do when they get a headache?  Take aspirin?

SP 'Onage
SP 'Onage

I'm sorry, I had to laugh!

Jgg
Jgg

That's the whole point, SP'Onage!

justASK
justASK

My favorite quotes from the German doc, because they are so pointed:

1."And indeed it is a totalitarian psycho cult, with definite political ambitions in a Scientology system"

2. "Berlin's mayor with Scientology advertising vehicle Tom Cruise"

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