Sex With Sleeping Woman Isn't Rape, Just "Bad Manners" -- According To British MP

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British MP George Galloway: having sex with a sleeping woman is "bad sexual etiquette."

It's officially "Make Stupid Comments About Rape Week" for politicians, and the festivities have jumped across the pond to Great Britain, where folks are known for their impeccable manners -- and a member of Parliament recently said that having sex with a woman while she sleeps isn't rape, it's just "bad sexual etiquette."

British MP George Galloway goes further, noting that "not everybody needs to be asked prior to each insertion."

There are simply no words...

Galloway made his comments during an episode of the MP's "Good Night" podcast while discussing allegations of sexual abuse against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange last week.

Below is the full text:

Let's take woman A. Woman A met Julian Assange, invited him back to her flat [apartment], gave him dinner, went to bed with him, had consensual sex with him. Claims that she woke up to him having sex with her again. This is something which can happen, you know.

I mean not everybody needs to be asked prior to each insertion. Some people believe that when you go to bed with somebody, take off your clothes, and have sex with them and then fall asleep, you're already in the sex game with them.

It might be really bad manners not to have tapped her on the shoulder and said, "do you mind if I do it again?". It might be really sordid and bad sexual etiquette, but whatever else it is, it is not rape or you bankrupt the term rape of all meaning.

And just like that, biology revisionist/U.S. Senate candidate Todd Akin doesn't seem all that bad.

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friseb
friseb

@juje80 qué pasa si se queda dormida en la mitad, además de hablar mal del acto en sí...

rudy20
rudy20

Issues like this make me feel sorry for heterosexual men.

uncover
uncover

It is not "bad manners", it is gentlemans behaviour - and sometimes it can become a duty.

I had a girlfriend who loved to wake up in the morning with an orgasm. So in the morning I had to wake up before her and to fulfil her desires.  The problem was, that she hat to leave at 6 in the morning, that was a little bit too early for my taste.

JKJK
JKJK

So ... fucking a pre-existing sexual partner, who is sleeping, is the same thing as forcefully restraining and fucking a stranger who is screaming "no" ?  You goddamn liberals take this feminism thing a little too far sometimes.

thenuttyprof
thenuttyprof

@Hokuboku oh ignore Galloway he is just jumping on the bandwagon

lb_423
lb_423

gross. @kshab @villagevoice

HurdyGurdy
HurdyGurdy

Misleading headline. Galloway isn't arguing that sex with a random sleeping person doesn't qualify as rape. His argument is slightly murkier, but still illogical. The issue he brings up is whether it's rape to have non-consensual sex with a person with whom you've had a recent consensual sexual encounter. Obviously it still is; a man can rape his wife for instance.

 

In the case of Assange, though, with all the political implications, definitions of rape aren't really the important factor. Still, I think it would be much harder to argue and present evidence in an accusation of rape after consensual sex. That argument would really just be one person's word against another's, wouldn't it?

MiyakaLee
MiyakaLee

@Hokuboku Guess someone wants to be a politician for the GOP when he grows up.

pkpk
pkpk

"do you mind if I do it again? HEY ASSHOLE, IT'S "WE". 

MarsMaven
MarsMaven

@lukedones . . . . I just can't even. What is so difficult about the idea of consent?

JayZeis
JayZeis

@kshab @villagevoice what if she falls asleep in the middle of sex... of nevermind

amitmehra
amitmehra

WHAT??? oVO RT @villagevoice Sex With a Sleeping Woman Isn't Rape, Just "Bad Manners" -- According To British MP http://t.co/q7aPxVSI

suemagic
suemagic

@villagevoice silly, women are not legitimate people anyway, rapists and fertilized eggs and corporations are... http://t.co/esBr4lF2

juje80
juje80

@friseb depende. es sonambula, bruxa? si se mueve tampoco es violacion

HurdyGurdy
HurdyGurdy

 @JKJK No one says it's the same thing. Sexual crimes are charged at different levels of severity, just like murders. Rape can mean a lot of things.

Hokuboku
Hokuboku

@thenuttyprof Don't worry. I know there's plenty more sane and awesome people in the UK :D

Hokuboku
Hokuboku

@MiyakaLee I laughed and then I felt sad

cheesivore
cheesivore

@MarsMaven @lukedones I think they are still stuck on the whole, women as equal & human beings.

friseb
friseb

@juje80 ¿entra el rigor mortis?

thenuttyprof
thenuttyprof

@Hokuboku true, what is it with some people don't they think before they say it from what I've read that US politician has burned his career

juje80
juje80

@friseb y, sino la empujadita se complica negro :P

Hokuboku
Hokuboku

@thenuttyprof Oh, he definitely has. His own party is telling him to resign

MarsMaven
MarsMaven

@cheesivore @lukedones Sometimes I forget I live in a bubble of intelligent, compassionate people. Then there's the news. Sigh.

cheesivore
cheesivore

@lukedones @marsmaven …such a shock. It never occurred to me that anyoneAnywhere could think any dead kid was anything other than a tragedy.

cheesivore
cheesivore

@lukedones @marsmaven Reminds me of when I 1st saw that certainPeople actually think that when a gay kid commits suicide, it's a good thing…

cheesivore
cheesivore

@MarsMaven @lukedones It is sick. So sick. You are completely right, @MarsMaven. Alas, I don't think women exist as human beings to them.

MarsMaven
MarsMaven

@lukedones @cheesivore They have no idea the kind of damage these comments can do to women&girls who have been assaulted. No. Idea.

lukedones
lukedones

@cheesivore @marsmaven I had no idea that Akin's "ideas" about rape & pregnancy has a long history and is widespread in conservative circles

cheesivore
cheesivore

@lukedones @marsmaven I did some reading on Akin's religious beliefs & it was terrifying. With the addition of an extreme urge to vomit. :(

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