The Voice Reads Maureen Orth's Story about Scientology in Vanity Fair

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See also our Voice Exclusive: Paul Haggis reacts to Scientology's attack on Nazanin Boniadi

We managed to find a copy of the new Vanity Fair today, and we've read Maureen Orth's story, "What Katie Didn't Know," about Tom Cruise and his Scientology-approved search for a new wife.

As advertised, there's really good stuff here. But there's also a lot we knew before and that's been reported here at the Voice. So join us as we show you our notes after giving Orth's story a good read.

Orth's article starts off with Tom Cruise complaining to Scientology leader David Miscavige about being unable to find a girlfriend. This is sourced to Mike Rinder and Marty Rathbun, the two high-level former church executives we've been writing about quite a lot over the last few years here at the Voice.

Rathbun was once the second-highest ranking official in the church. He defected in 2004 and resurfaced in 2009 with a blog that is harshly critical of Miscavige, and which Miscavige apparently considers a major problem. Last year, we provided ongoing coverage as Rathbun was besieged in his South Texas home by a goon squad sent by the church to make his life "a living hell."

Rinder was, until his defection in 2007, the chief spokesman of the church and ran its Office of Special Affairs, Scientology's intelligence-gathering and covert operations wing. He spoke to us in March about his experience being held in Scientology's California concentration camp for executives, "The Hole."

After Kidman and Cruz both proved unfriendly to Scientology, Tom Cruise needed a "beautiful true believer," Orth writes.

To that end, Scientology actresses were told to come in and audition for training videos -- this was a ruse to see if they'd make a good fit for Cruise. This is sourced to Marc Headley, who worked as a technical employee at Scientology's International Base east of Los Angeles (the subject of Headley's own book, Blown for Good). Claire Headley, Marc's wife, adds that the timing was crucial because it was believed Cruise was about to make a big donation to Miscavige's pet project -- his push for new buildings, called "Ideal Orgs."

Orth also revisits what we reported here in January, that while Cruise was being guided back into the church following his 2001 breakup with Nicole Kidman, reports were being delivered to the church about what was going on in his household, using Scientologists on his staff.

Orth describes auditing and gives a quick rundown of OT III and the Xenu material -- which is always fun. She has Headley talking about how it's a make-or-break moment for Scientologists when they encounter that material. But as we wrote recently, there's a good reason why L. Ron Hubbard's tales of a galactic overlord and alien genocide don't scare away more longtime members.

Kidman, as we've mentioned before, stopped short of OT III before she gave up on Scientology. Now, Orth is told by former Scientology official Amy Scobee that she saw one person punished for the failures of the Kidman case by being sent to what sounds like the church's notorious prison detail, the Rehabilitation Project Force, which involves hard manual labor.

After Cruise split up with Kidman, as we've written before, Marty Rathbun was tasked with auditing the actor and bringing him back into Scientology in a big way. Orth points out that these auditing sessions were secretly recorded -- and Marc Headley was the one who had installed the cameras. Orth points out that Scientology had admitted to the BBC's John Sweeney in 2010 that they recorded these sessions, but this time denied it to Vanity Fair. (Hey, it can be hard for the church to keep track of all of its "shore stories," we imagine.)

Rathbun blames Miscavige for breaking up both of Cruise's first two marriages, to Mimi Rogers and Nicole Kidman. His quotes on this are fascinating, and you'll have to get them from the magazine.

Claire Headley and another former executive, Tom DeVocht, paint a portrait of Miscavige sipping Macallan scotch as he read reports from Cruise's supposedly confidential auditing sessions, joking about their contents with his wife Shelly. DeVocht tells Orth that Miscavige's jokes were usually at the expense of Tom's sex life. (The church, naturally, told Vanity Fair that it doesn't betray the confidentiality of auditing sessions, but there are literally decades of court documents that clearly show the opposite, believe me.)

After vetting dozens of women through its auditing process (and with Tom Cruise striking out with Sophia Vergara and Scarlett Johansson), Scientology finally settled on the winner of its tryouts -- 25-year-old, Iranian-born, London-bred, UC Irvine-educated, Nazanin Boniadi.

She spent a month, in October 2004, preparing for her big role as Cruise's girlfriend -- which entailed interrogations to make sure she was really perfect. She was a highly trained Scientologist (she was OT V), and had not had a threesome in her life, Orth writes, which was apparently a prerequisite. Before she could be with Cruise, she needed to ditch the red highlights in her hair, lose her braces, and also get rid of her boyfriend. In order to help convince her of that, Orth writes, Scientology leaked to her damaging details about him that had been culled from his auditing files.

Once she was ready, Claire Headley says she was ordered to buy $5,000 worth of new clothes and other items for Greg Wilhere, the Sea Org executive who had been guiding Boniadi through the process -- he needed to look better than your typical Sea Org drone, the naval-outfit-wearing hardcore workers for Scientology who labor about 100 hours a week for only about $50 each week. With Wilhere spiffed up, he flew with Boniadi to New York to meet Cruise for the first time in November 2004. She still had no clue what she was being groomed for, Orth writes.

A wonderful detail: Boniadi had been asked her idea of a perfect date. She said sushi and ice skating. And that's just what Cruise delivered in New York -- with a tour of the Empire State Building thrown in. Along for the date were Tommy Davis and his then wife, Nadine, as well as Jessica Feschbach, who would become Davis's next wife.

Over the next couple of months, as the relationship deepened, Boniadi found herself under strict control. "Cruise wanted Boniadi's incisor teeth filed down," Orth writes.

As Orth had already revealed in this weekend's teaser, Boniadi ultimately proved to be wanting because she had a hard time understanding David Miscavige's rapid speech and had to keep saying "Excuse me," to get him to repeat himself during a visit at Cruise's home in Telluride, Colorado at the end of December. "Things were never the same after that," Orth writes.

She learned from Wilhere that the relationship was over, not from Cruise himself, and then she was shipped to Flag Land Base, Scientology's spiritual mecca in Clearwater, Florida. Depressed by what had happened, she made the mistake of confiding in a friend, who then wrote up a 10-page "knowledge report" about her. (Spying on friends and family is almost a sacrament in Scientology.)

"For more than two months Boniadi's punishment was to scrub toilets with a toothbrush on her hands and knees, clean bathroom tiles with acid, and dig ditches in the middle of the night," Orth writes.

Orth then writes about John Brousseau, who not only was David Miscavige's brother-in-law for many years, but also did a lot of work for Cruise, customizing his homes and vehicles. We recently wrote a lengthy two-part story about Brousseau's remarkable 32-year history in the church.

We then get a recitation of the wackiness of 2005 -- Cruise jumping on Oprah's couch and other PR disasters, and South Park's infamous November episode, "Trapped in the Closet."

Orth has a great quote from Mike Rinder about the publicity disasters of that time, and why he didn't speak up to Miscavige about it: "I could never say a word. That's like saying Eva Braun is ugly."

Orth then writes a section about Katie Holmes, most of which is familiar, except for one fun detail: Marc Headley claims that Katie's father, Martin Holmes, was asking for advice about how to get his daughter away from Scientology before the 2006 marriage even took place.

Near the end of the piece, Orth points out what we wrote about earlier, that Cruise gets to skirt the rules that tear apart other Scientology families.

Well, as we said, there's a lot of familiar stuff here -- but with plenty about Nazanin Boniadi that's never been published anywhere before -- and all in all a great read.


UPDATE: Orth writes in her story that Scientology officials denied that the church records auditing sessions (even though they admitted that very thing to John Sweeney and the BBC for a documentary in 2010). Well, our tipsters have come up with a little visual proof that should settle the matter. From a 2006 copy of Scientology's own Source magazine comes this image of a "case supervisor" keeping an eye on an auditing session going on and writing down whatever supposedly private things are being said...

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As Orth writes in her story (and what courtrooms and reporters have heard for decades), what is said in supposedly private auditing sessions has a way of being used later by the church when it wants to retaliate against a perceived enemy.

Or, in this case, when David Miscavige wants to get his jollies laughing about Tom Cruise's sex problems.


See also:
"Tom Cruise worships David Miscavige like a god"
Scientology's president and the death of his son: our complete coverage
What Katie is saving Suri from: Scientology interrogation of kids
Scientology's new defections: Hubbard's granddaughter and Miscavige's dad
Scientology's disgrace: our open letter to Tom Cruise
Scientology crumbling: An entire mission defects as a group
Scientology leader David Miscavige's vanished wife: Where's Shelly?
Neil Gaiman, 7, Interviewed About Scientology by the BBC in 1968
The Master Screenplay: Scientology History from Several Different Eras
And a post that pulls together the best of our Scientology reporting

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Tony Ortega has been the editor in chief of the Village Voice since March, 2007. He started writing about Scientology in 1995. You can reach him by e-mail at tortega@villagevoice.com, and if you ask nicely he'll put you on his mailing list for notifications of new stories. You can also catch his alerts at Twitter (@VoiceTonyO), at his Facebook author page, on Pinterest, a Tumblr, and even this new Google Plus doohickey.

New readers might want to check out our primer, "What is Scientology?" Another good overview is our series from last summer, "Top 25 People Crippling Scientology." At the top of every story, you'll see the "Scientology" category which, if you click on it, will bring up all of our most recent stories.

As for hot subjects we've covered here, you may have heard about Debbie Cook, the former church official who rebelled and was sued by Scientology. You might have also heard about the Super Power Building, Scientology's "Mecca," whose secrets were revealed here. We also reported how Scientology spied on its own most precious object, Tom Cruise. (We wrote Tom an open letter that he has yet to respond to.) Have you seen a Scientology ad on TV lately? We debunked some of the claims in that 2-minute commercial you might have seen while watching Glee or American Idol.

Other stories have looked at Scientology's policy of "disconnection" that is tearing families apart. You may also have heard something about the Sea Org experiences of the Paris sisters, Valeska and Melissa, and their friend Ramana Dienes-Browning. We've also featured Paulette Cooper, who wrote about Scientology back in the day, and Janet Reitman, Hugh Urban, and the team at the Tampa Bay Times, who write about it today. And there's plenty more coming.


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Michael
Michael

This guy was married to Liane, Tom cruise's sister, in 2004-2005.  Liane was at the time, Tom's publicist and him and Derek De Vetter (her husband) spend a lot of time with Nazanin Boniadi while she was living with Tom cruise.   Derek De Vette witnessed all David Miscavige's pimping and how horrible they treated Boniadi.  Later, Dereke and Liane were forced by David Miscavige and Tom cruise to divorce. He is now married to another scientologist chick.

Get to know Derek De Vette:

http://www.facebook.com/DerekDeVette

Solace
Solace

Just wrote in to ABC re the cancellation.  Write in if you have the time -

Artoo45
Artoo45

Though it may be slightly disappointing to see that most articles critical of the cult in national publications are full of things we've already known thanks to Tony, Andreas and the many other critics who have risked much to present the truth, take heart that the articles are showing up on the national stage at all. It all presages the Tiny Terror's recurring nightmare . . . In the fevered dream he stands in a vast, empty stadium, naked, minus his hairpiece, dwarfed by an immense set decorated in his favored late Marcabian-Mafia-Wife style. Left arm bent at the elbow, right arm extended to clutch the edge of the lectern, he waits for Chick Corea to finish playing "Thank You For Listening" on a tiny, toy piano. Chick finishes and stares blankly ahead. The silence is deafening and for what seems like an eternity, he stands frozen, like a deer caught in headlights that rush toward him but never arrive. Then there is a loud snap as two portly cherubs walk out from either side of the stage and sound a clarion call with long trumpets and he is once again compelled to announce in that fakey voice . . . "Hang on to your hats my friends, this is LRH's Golden Age of Entheta™!" Dream repeats X ∞.

akfanshawe
akfanshawe

File down her incisors?? If true, this is bizarrely ridiculous.Why didn't they set the Cruiser up with an android? Pris Cruise. Nice ring, n'est-ce pas?

JussiOg
JussiOg

@tonijauhiainen It's actually pretty hard for an average person like me to fathom just how completely removed from reality these people are.

mot_mot
mot_mot

@VoiceTonyO thanks!!

BosonStark
BosonStark

I have a question about a non-disclosure agreement, the type signed by Nazanin with Cruise. Would it be legal for her to disclose that she signed such an agreement with Tom Cruise, or is that something you also may not disclose?

SpeakMemory
SpeakMemory

 

Mr. Ortega,

 

Of all criticisms launched against Scientology, this is among the most damning:

 

"[Boniadi] made the mistake of confiding in a friend, who then wrote up a 10-page 'knowledge report' about her. (Spying on friends and family is almost a sacrament in Scientology.)..."

 

Dante reserved the innermost Circle of Hell for people who betray their friends.

 

And totalitarians encourage betrayal because it ruthlessly kills two birds with one stone:

 

Betrayal not only intimidates and harms the betrayed, it also corrupts, and eventually annihilates, the betrayer's moral conscience.

 

I feel very sorry for those Scientologists who've been betrayed by people they trusted and loved, and I pity those Scientologists who allowed Scientology to coerce them into perverting their sense of right and wrong, into destroying their very humanity.

 

It helps to keep in mind what Gandhi said, "All tyrants fall."

 

It often seems as if tyrants will never fall, as if their stamina and resources were infinite.

 

But if history's taught us anything, it's that all tyrants, all of them, even the most powerful and cunning, inevitably fall.

 

 

 

 

 

 

PeggyToo
PeggyToo

TC is all over PerezHilton.com today.  Nothing new but Love his snarky comments.

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http://perezhilton.com/2012-09-06-tom-cruise-confessions-recorded-by-scientology-leader-david-miscavige

 

http://perezhilton.com/2012-09-06-tom-cruise-scientology-did-not-like-nicole-kidman-penelope-cruz-threesomes

 

http://perezhilton.com/2012-09-06-tom-cruise-scientology-nazanin-boniadi-vanity-fair

 

And this is from RadarOnline  'Managing Editor' Jen Heger.....

 

The Church of Scientology screened at least two dozen women to date Tom Cruise after his divorce from Nicole Kidman, including unknown actress and fellow church member, Yolanda Pecoraro, who made the cut and was fixed up with the actor, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.

"The Church screened at least two dozen women to date Tom Cruise after his divorce," a source close to the situation tells Radar. "Tom had very specific demands about the type of woman he was interested in, including long dark hair, olive complexion and preferably an actress. Of course, he wanted her to preferably be a Scientologist too. The Church did set Cruise up with Yolanda Pecoraro and they dated in the summer of 2004, after his very public split from Penelope Cruz. The relationship with Yolanda lasted a few months, but Cruise grew bored with her, and wanted to date an actress that was known to the public."

Ags5
Ags5

I was hoping that with the latest article in Vanity Fair would bring more attention to find Shelly Miscavige.  There is a petition out there for her but it only has 157 signatures.   With all the readers just on village voice, you would think the number of supporters would climb.  Please sign - http://www.change.org/petitions/the-attorney-general-of-the-united-states-find-out-where-shelly-miscavige-is-and-find-out-if-she-is-there-willingly.  She has suffered enough and when you read about Shelly, find out the price her mother paid.

PreferToBeAnon
PreferToBeAnon

If either TC or the Co$ decide to sue (doubtful, but go with it), there is so much sworn testimony about the abuses already on the books -- a la Debbie Cook.  A big consideration might be the recent Headley court case as well.  I have not read the case or depositions, but I do know that Claire Headley was sourced in the VF article and who knows what she may have said under oath that is relevant. My point is this:  Over the past year or so, the body of testimony of abuse (in a legal sense) has expanded. The media is getting bolder; they are on safer ground and know they are finally getting the upper hand. Now if only the IRS feels the same way. There is a sea-change happening, so to speak.

I'm praying that this is the pantyhose snag that will eventually cause the whole fabric to splinter.

Sherbet
Sherbet

A general question:  What do scns and indies say about the Vistaril found in the Late Lamented LRH's Meat Body?

Sherbet
Sherbet

I wish somebody could get the true recruitment story out of Scarlett Johansson. 

PreferToBeAnon
PreferToBeAnon

At some point in the last 2 days I read that Pouw isn’t even a $cientologist.  Can anyone confirm?

BurytheNuts
BurytheNuts

How can you treat human beings as disposable commodities and somehow justify it? It just does not register in my brain, even though I am completely aware it is SOP for Sciontology. For a religion that believes in the soul, albeit by another name....they are completely soulless at the very core.

Solace
Solace

They responded to me with God knows what so I replied.  For Christ sake air the scientology stories and get some spine. 

JohnPCapitalist
JohnPCapitalist

 @BosonStark  A standard commercial non-disclosure agreement, such as the kind a customer might sign to get a look at unannounced products and technologies from a company like IBM or Oracle probably would not contain such a clause.  They would be prohibited from publishing the agreement since that could reveal enough details about what technologies are covered. 

 

Non-disclosure agreements involving celebrity behavior are probably different. I would suspect that in a case such as the instant one, some smart lawyer could figure out that even the knowledge of the existence of a non-disclosure agreement would point to some bizarre behavior, and could stick in a clause to prevent such things.  In other words, if Bonaidi were to say "I can't talk about it because I have signed a non-disclosure agreement" that would tend to get some people to assume that Cruise was up to some kinky stuff.  After all, who in the real world signs a non-disclosure agreement to talk about a guy she dated for two or three months?  On the other hand, if Bonaidi simply said, "I'd prefer not to talk about it" doesn't necessarily mean anything more than what it literally says.  

 

Essentially, the limits on such things are likely to be in the minds of the attorneys drawing them up.  There's no mandatory format or content.  

Claritysav
Claritysav

@PeggyToo Why would TC or any other big time actor want to date a big time actress? I am sure many Hollywood relationships are mostly for PR purposes- but TC seemed genuinely interested on a relationship- I would think the demands of 2 acting careers would be 2.5 strikes against a relationship working before any of the other typical relationship challenges are breached. Of course TC presents additional requirements/challenges that are beyond typical as well On one hand he wants a big star actress - on the other he wants a scientology robot that will not rock the boat- it seems the 2 would be mutually exclusive

I.SIS
I.SIS

 @Ags5 Stay tuned.... I am certain it is only a matter of time before the media jumps on that headline.  It's just too juicy for them to pass up.

 

Thanks for the link to the Find Shelly Miscavige petition.  I've been trying to locate recent petitions to the FBI/Dept. of Justice to revoke their tax exempt status, too. Anyone know of one??

 

It was Marty Rathbun himself that said this is just the tip of the iceberg.  

 

I hope for everyone's sake that the VF article officially opens the floodgates.  Can't wait for the inevitable Tom Cruise response to all of this.

Sherbet
Sherbet

 @TheProprietor  Yoiks!!  And I mean that in a good way!  The Headleys are no Debbie (Take the Money and Run) Cook. 

AndrewRobertson
AndrewRobertson

 @Sherbet 

 

At that time Vistaril was not just prescribed as an anti-psychotic medication.  It was also used to combat allergies as an antihistamine drug which in my opinion is why Dr Gene Denk chose to administer it to L Ron Hubbard.

 

AndrewRobertson
AndrewRobertson

 @PreferToBeAnon 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karin_Pouw

[...]

 

Tony Ortega interviewed Pouw for a 1999 article in the Phoenix New Times, and wrote that according to Scientology, Jesus was a false memory implanted into humans as a result of the Xenu space opera. When Ortega asked Pouw about this theology, she responded: "So what if we believe Jesus is a figment of the imagination?"

[...]

 

Solace
Solace

 @victoriapandora

 

So what is the difference with ABC's GMA and 20/20 - and Nightline - Maybe because more people watch in the evening or DM went beyond out of his mind and had his lawyers on it. 

Capt._Howdy
Capt._Howdy

 @victoriapandora I'm wondering how she made it to OT 5 so quickly. There was this french guy on Marty's blog who made it to OT 8 in like 5 years !

Vistaril
Vistaril

 @BurytheNuts IMHO

 

 

Scientologists are taught that your inability to understand this is because you are subject to the random insanity of your reactive mind. Compounding your A=A=A psychosis is HE&R (basically, emotions like grief, anger, sadness, and boredom, etc). Thus, perfectly natural human feelings including, the sense of connection with one's own body and even our connections to other humans, are dismissed as sentimental Wog notions. The KSW processing is reinforced with gently encouraged states of theta knowingness, plus scientific grades and charts and scales and triangles which maps the the universe creating homo-noviis's ashtray-shifting return to its natural godlike state. The results are often hideous.

 

 

Having L Ron Hubbard as a primary source of information on physical health means that your physical health deteriorates due to overwork, bad nutrition, stress and a complete lack of LOVE and hugs.Especially if you are staff.  Also, Scientologists have certainty on diseases and injuries and accidents; its all their own fault. Good news is that no matter what ailment they have, it can be at least partially healed with more processing. No need to go anywhere near one of those dangerous Wog doctors who will only prescribe big pharma drugs. Scientologists are tough: they don't deal in lifetimes, they deal with eternity and the whole agonizing survival of mankind as they toil relentlessly, statistic by statistic, to free us all from Xenu's shackles and Clear this mudball planet onc and for all. Hip hip . . .

 

Thinking and believing in thousands of years at a time, changes a Scientologist's viewpoint of this lifetime, reducing it to a blip. Scientologists don't die, they drop their body. Far more important than a Scientologist's body and family is "the group",  and, above all, it is "the group" which "must survive".

 

 

In Scientology, there are eight dynamics. The first is a consideration of the body, next the family, then "the group", followed by survival of the species, then all of life on the planet, the sixth dynamic is the survival of the whole universe, the seventh is the survival of our spiritual essence and, at the top of the dynamics is . . . well, you guessed it, Infinity. So, if its your intention to save Earth before the Marcabians get their hands on it, you must do what is best for most of the dynamics. Its simple maths. While there is sacrifice to be made on the second dynamic when a mother disconnects from her son, the act of the disconnection will have an impact on seven dynamics, especially "the group". When a person dies, no big deal, no need act out some degraded Wog sentiment like crying your eyes out.

 

 

Commodore L Ron Hubbard is the exemplar of Scientology practises. One need only consider that he beat all three of his wives, kidnapped one of his children, disconnected from his adult son, while, much earlier, another son committed suicide. And L Ron Hubbard led a dissolute drunken and drug addled existence. Seriously, he must have been as strong as an ox to have lived into his 70s given his lifestyle. His death was announced  at an enforced gathering of thousands of Scientologists. Upon hearing that Ron had dropped his body, the audience rose as one and spent the next six minutes on their feet cheering and clapping. True fact.

StillGrace
StillGrace

 @BurytheNuts BtN, for some reason, I can't stop thinking about Shelly Miscavige lately. It blows my mind that there is no missing person report on her ... that there is no active investigation into her disappearance.

In my darkest moments, I wonder if DM didn't lose his famous temper, and bust her a heavy one during an argument, and accidently cause her death.

The fact that this is a possible scenario, and that DM is so far above the law that he could actually get away with it is unbelievable. It's depressing and distressing.

sugarplumfairy32
sugarplumfairy32

@BurytheNuts maybe that's why tom was so desperate to find a soulmate.. so he could share hers.. Btw.. my boss just told me if I didn't get off the phone, she's sending me to 'the hole'.. and everyone in the nursing station (docs and nurses and even a phlebotomist) laughed.. That wouldn't have happened two days ago.. my obsession with the voice is having an effect here..

Jgg2012
Jgg2012

  They usually say "I'm not at liberty to discuss it" or "I can't discuss it" which may simply mean her lawyer advised against it, or she was asked to keep it confidential.  The existence of an NDA may come out if one is subpoenaed to testify; that is why an NDA will say you can't disclose "unless required to do so by law."  No one is required to talk to the media, however, so they often just say "I can't discuss it".  I'm sure Tony's heard that 100s of times.

BosonStark
BosonStark

 @JohnPCapitalist Thanks John, but I'm still not absolutely clear though. If she said, "I'd prefer not to talk about it," couldn't that also mean she can't talk about it, according to the terms of the agreement?

 

Incidentally, yesterday, Nazanin tweeted:

'I just want everyone and Tom Cruise to know, that I have/had no part in the Vanity Fair story.'

 

I think the addition of "Tom Cruise" to that statement, insinuates that she dated him, but maybe I'm making too much of it.

 

Incidentally, there was some speculation on Tom Cruise's date for his 2004 Freedom Medal of Valor ceremony. Now, I'm sure it was Yolanda Pecoraro, a clam /actress from New Jersey, of Nigerian and Italian descent. He dated her for a few months too, but got bored with her.

 

Cruise liked Katie Holmes because she is witty and smart. I'll go with him on that, but why would anyone who was witty and smart, get married to Tom? For her career, and she thought he was sexy and fun, for a while? What is funny, Katie probably felt it was a "privilege" to be selected by Tom.

 

Nazanin had even more to be confident about than Katie, as far as her education and status in Scientology (OT V). She is probably still traumatized that she made those changes, only to be humiliated, but I still wish she were able to say something to the effect that, "It was a really bad experience, but I'm glad it happened, because I'm glad to be out of the cult of Scientology. I didn't know what they were really about until I went through that." 

 

However, I can appreciate that she doesn't want to be legally crushed by Cruise's legal team. What would the penalty be for violating something like that? If she couldn't pay it, she'd have to go to prison? That's make Tom real popular. LOL

Sherbet
Sherbet

 @RobertEckert As in "the autopsy is full of lies," or "somebody injected the Vistaril to disgrace LRH's legacy"?

Sherbet
Sherbet

 @Capt._Howdy That's a little more detailed than what I'd read in the past.  Still wish someone could corner SJ and ask her to comment on the VF article. 

BurytheNuts
BurytheNuts

@Vistaril This was a great post. While I know all those facts, it was hard to put them in a context I could wrap my brain around. I still find it baffling that he pulled all of this off in the first place.

Solace
Solace

 @StillGrace  @BurytheNuts

 

What about all the people in the Hole - I cannot understand how no one can be reporting NO ONE missing all these years when they know they are in the HOLE.  IT is beyond bizarre.  Is everyone a scientologist in the area, as the FLDS where everyone is a fundamentalist including the police, judges, etc.   

The_Mole_on_DMs_Ass
The_Mole_on_DMs_Ass

 @StillGrace  @BurytheNuts It's easy to forget the dark-side of Scientology when there is so much crazy on display.  So much hearsay surrounds the topic that it is real gut-shot to stumble across the cold hard facts.   Prime examples being the divorce papers from Hubbards second marriage, or the plan to silence Paulette Cooper, as discovered during the FBI raids.  As much as I want to respect peoples right to practice their beliefs in peace the number people who simply disappear within Scientology is truly shocking.

JohnPCapitalist
JohnPCapitalist

 @sugarplumfairy32  @BurytheNuts Just as long as it was a "phlebotomist" who laughed at you, not a "lobotomist."  If the latter, then you would know that Scientology was right and you have fallen under the spell of the evil "psychs."  After all, according to Scientology, every hospital is inhabited by bands of roving psychs looking for people to perform lobotomies or electro-shock therapy on. 

Sara
Sara

 @BosonStark  @JohnPCapitalist I am not sure where you got that tweet from but Nazanin NEVER tweeted that.  I have been following her tweets for a while and never saw such a thing.   

Maureen Orth article is 100% valid.

Jgg2012
Jgg2012

  The "I had nothing to do with it" probably means she wasn't interviewed, but I thought she was (?).  As to the penalty, an NDA has liquidated damages ie $50,000 per violation.  Otherwise, Cruise would have to prove damages by lining up moviegoers who said "I was going to see that Cruise movie until I read that article" and he won't get many people like that.

BosonStark
BosonStark

Correction to my post... Nicaraguan, not Nigerian. It's hard to keep all of Tom Cruise's babes straight.

media_lush
media_lush

@BosonStark @JohnPCapitalist Half Nicaurwagian, not Nigerian. And how could they word a case where a person who can't talk about a non-disclosure in any way accidentally said they can't because of a non-disclosure. "we're suing you because we said you couldn't talk about it even though you said you couldn't talk about it"..... Love to see this play out on The Good Wife or other some such TV law show.

victoriapandora
victoriapandora

 @PeggyToo  @Capt._Howdy

 Yeah, if you cut out the training (which is designed to teach YOU how to help OTHERS) and you got the bucks, you can fly up the bridge. THOSE were THE most obnoxious scns. IMO.

sugarplumfairy32
sugarplumfairy32

@JohnPCapitalist @BurytheNuts I think I may know a few.. =)

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