Eyewitness: Police Shot Kimani Gray While The 16-Year-Old Was On The Ground

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The only publicly identified eyewitness in the killing of a Brooklyn teen by two New York City police officers is standing by her claim that the young man was empty-handed when he was gunned down, and now says one of the cops involved threatened her life.

In an extended interview with the Village Voice Saturday night--one week to the day after 16-year-old Kimani Gray was killed--Tishana King, 39, provided new, vivid details about the 10th-grader's final moments.

King said one officer stood "right over" Gray, continuing to shoot him while he was on the ground, and that neither cop identified himself as law enforcement when the incident began.

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Sgt. Mourad Mourad, 30, and Officer Jovaniel Cordova, 26, were identified as the officers involved in the shooting. Both are decorated members of the NYPD who have been involved in prior non-fatal shootings and received awards for their actions. They have also been targeted in five federal lawsuits stemming from allegations ranging from illegal stop-and-frisks to physical abuse, costing the city $215,000. Both have been placed on administrative duty while the investigation continues.

The police department says the officers were patrolling in East Flatbush in an unmarked car around 11:30 p.m. last weekend when they spotted a group of young men, one of whom adjusted his waistband in a manner the officers deemed suspicious. According to the police, the individual broke away from the group as the officers approached.

In a statement last week, NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said, "After the anti-crime sergeant and police officer told the suspect to show his hands, which was heard by witnesses, Gray produced a revolver and pointed it at the officers, who fired a total of 11 rounds, striking Gray several times." A loaded .38-caliber Rohm's Industry revolver was recovered at the scene.

Whether or not Gray had a gun, King said she never saw one pointed at the police. "I can't say if they had one on them or not, but no one had a gun pointing at the cops," she told the Voice.

King's account, which contradicts the NYPD's version of the events on key points, builds on what she first said in a New York Daily News article published last Tuesday. King told the paper she was "certain [Gray] didn't have anything in his hands." The article described a tape-recorded interview she gave to police investigators hours after the shooting. A police spokesman told the paper that when investigators asked King what she saw, she told them "she couldn't see what the boys were doing 'from the angle I was at.'"

But King told the Voice that from her third-floor vantage point, "I can see everything." A street light illuminates the area where the incident took place.

Speaking to the Voice on her stoop Saturday evening, King made her first comments on the case since NYPD responded to her claims. She confirmed that she was interviewed by police--"about two hours after" the shooting--and says she has not been interviewed by the department since.

When asked if she saw a gun at any point during the incident, King told the Voice, "No. Not from the kids."

An internal NYPD report cited by the Daily News stated that the officers wore badges around their necks. King said she didn't see any: "No. No badges."

NYPD commissioner Ray Kelly has said the department has three "ear witnesses to the shooting," two of who said they heard the officers say "Don't move" and a third who claims to have heard an officer ask, "What do you have in your hands?"

King claims the officers said only one thing after stepping onto the sidewalk, "'Don't move.' That's it."

Gray was shot "on the sidewalk" two driveways down from her building, King says, near the home of a pair of twins he often visited. The kids hadn't been around much in recent months, she added. King said she was in bed when the sound of loud voices and laughter drew her to her window last Saturday night.

"That's why I looked out," she said. " To just see, 'Oh, hey, what's going on?' Then when I saw it was the kids visiting, I said 'Oh, okay.'"

Peering out from the third-story of her brick building, King claims to have seen "about seven to eight" young people. She said they had only been gathered for "maybe a minute or two" before the police arrived. "There was no suspicious behavior. The worst they were doing, laughing out loud and, you know, talking loud. That's about it," King said.

When asked if she recognized any of the kids, Gray said, "Just a few. I know the twins because they're my direct next-door neighbors." In addition to the twins, King also claims to have been familiar with Gray, though prior to the shooting she says she knew him only by his nickname, "Kiki."

"I know him from his friends and always being in the neighborhood and visiting the twins," she said. "He's always a frequent visitor." King said she recognized Gray's voice outside the night he was killed.

King could not confirm what direction Gray was facing at the time he was shot. "I'm not the shooter. I wouldn't be able to tell you. If I had the gun and I was shooting at him I'd be able to answer that question," she said. King said the officers "looked white, from what I was seeing." News reports have indicated, however, that Sgt. Mourad is Egyptian.

After the gunfire subsided, King claims the officer who "did the most shooting" put his hands on his head "like, 'Oh my God.'" She describes him as "the main shooter."

"That's the one I was focused on," she explained. "He just kept shooting while [Gray] was on the ground." When asked how close the officer was when he was shooting Gray, King said, "right over him."

"I thought he was dead," King said. That's when Gray began to scream. "'Help me. Help me. My stomach is burning. Help me. They shot me,'" she said the teen cried out. Friends have said Gray was approximately 5'6" and weighed at most about 100 pounds. King described him as "frail" and said she was surprised he was not killed instantly. "I didn't think anybody could take those amount of bullets," she added.

"I just remember screaming out the window 'Why?! Why so much?!" King recalled. She claims the "main shooter"'s partner--"with the short haircut"--responded.

"He started waving his gun up at our windows, myself and my neighbor. 'Get your F-ing head out the window before I shoot you.'" King said she and her neighbor "jumped back."

"I told the authorities that," she said. "You threatened our lives and we didn't even do anything."

King says a number of questions continue to bother her. "Why did they exit their vehicles? Why were they in our neighborhood? Why were they on our block? What was the reason? Why didn't you follow protocol?"

"The scene just keeps replaying in my head," she told the Voice, "over and over and over and over and over again."


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28 comments
gonefishing351
gonefishing351

Some very harsh karma will be visited on all the police and politicians in Jewmerika when the shit hitting the fan is formally acknowledged and people say they have had enough of being treated as cattle and collateral for banks. Lots of dead cops, politicians and judges/lawyers coming to a street near you soon!

ronilamb521
ronilamb521

These things are tragic at best...but racist....puhlease!  Look up Cheyenne Miller in Anderson  Indiana.  White boy...white cops...he failed to pay his child support....shot him dead.  Nobody cares.

unitedsnakesofnarcissist
unitedsnakesofnarcissist

,,,a gang of blue Murderers,,,brought to you by,,,a theme of Obvious Racism,,,starring ,Bigots-n-Liars !

Izzy Dilbs
Izzy Dilbs

Lets try and refrain from using the term "pigs" not all cops are bad, and Id like to think everyone's education level is a little better than that.

garvinIII71
garvinIII71

The kid had at least three shots to his back, meaning he was running AWAY. What about that do some of you dolts not understand? Pretend that the police don't have drop guns; pretend the police aren't shooting seemingly unarmed Black males at an inordinate comparison to their Caucasian counterparts. At least ask some questions about what is going on, and don't rely on your racist instincts to inform your thinking. Now, one of you imbeciles will counter with the response that the Black youth are the one's committing the majority of criminal acts.. I'll wait.

add1dda
add1dda

Has anyone noticed that alleged eyewitness Tishana King is imposing some of the same talking points on the cops that supporters of Trayvon Martin imposed on George Zimmerman? "Why did they exit their vehicles?... Why didn't you follow protocol?"

What “protocol”? This is a racial fairy tale.

Are the police now obligated to wait in their car, until the official local street gang shows up? Or is it that they are not permitted to enter black neighborhoods at all?

She’s even claimed that the cops were white, just as Al Sharpton, Benjamin Crump, et al., insisted that George Zimmerman was white!

Did King come up with this racist garbage herself, or did she have help? And if she had help, who helped her? Black supremacist city councilman Charles Barron? The family’s lawyer, Kenneth Montgomery? An alleged journalist?

For the real story, go to VDARE.

Marina58
Marina58


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de1061
de1061

It's amazing how much detail she was able to see 3 floors up and at night.

mjhellund1
mjhellund1

Are there any undecorated members of NYPD? Were you there John Doe?

JonDoe
JonDoe

This woman is a fucking liar. She's clearly enjoying the attention she's receiving from the sympathetic, liberal media and is changing her story more and more to help paint this "police brutality" portrait.

JSNYC
JSNYC

my sense of the community where this happened is that they are prepared to sacrifice their young men and women to casual gunfire from their own and not "SNITCH",but police intervention in crime and violence prone areas is always viewed as racist, discriminatory and brutal.

Sometimes a thug with a gun gets nailed....RIP

de1061
de1061

I wonder if she even knows what the word "protocol" means?

anthonyandrewwilliam
anthonyandrewwilliam

@Marina58 Please learn how to speak english. Wow your email is being manipulated by the government and your family still exists? Unbelievable. Shocking. You must be a very intelligent person.

infinityblues
infinityblues

@de1061 I don't think she really said anything about "great detail" she reported what she saw... which was some kids from the neighborhood hanging and talking. If you heard a commotion outside your window wouldnt you check? Considering these clowns have 5 pending lawsuits and have already cost the city $215,000 for abuse you'd think most rational people would want to make sure it doesn't happen anymore. You're quick to question the neighborhood witness but not the police with a record of abuse?

add1dda
add1dda

@mjhellund1,

Were you there? No, so why pull that garbage with John Doe? Oh, yes, you're a racist cop-hater, so you support her transparent lies.  

infinityblues
infinityblues

@JonDoe puhlease stfu- you regurgitating mindfucked blowhard. The NYPD LIES. In fact just last week they were caught perjuring themselves, yet again. 5 pending lawsuits and a dead teenager would give any thinker pause to question these bullies with badges.


dallasnewton63
dallasnewton63

@Luiz Alberto Guedes Pinheiro 

Just think about it, if these two non-resident cops had not been in the neighborhood that night, an innocent young man would still be alive and no one would be hurt. Sometimes, I think these cops have a quota to meet with either incarcerating Blacks or killing them. The war on the Blacks occurs on many fronts., none of which is extremely highlighted, but taken together renders a devastating blow. Who the hell is the representative for the district. Get these cops out of your neighborhoods and start policing it yourselves. CAN THE ADULTS AND ELDERS PLEASE STAND UP.

JSC-NYC
JSC-NYC

or justifiably..........

anthonyandrewwilliam
anthonyandrewwilliam

@infinityblues @de1061 First she said she couldn't tell what the boys were doing from where she was at, now she can say definitively that he did not have a gun in his hands. also, you know nothing about the statistics of lawsuits against cops. How do you know if that number is a large amount, average, or below average? you don't. Nobody, in this community would say that Kimani Gray pointed a gun at the cops even if it was the case. If they did, they would be ostracized as a traitor to their own community; this is a major problem. This case reminds me of the Trayvon Martin shooting. It gained so much momentum, before all the facts were known. How could anyone provide testimony to support the cops and ever show their face in this community again? Answer me that. Nobody is disputing the fact that Kimani Gray had a criminal record, and possessed an illegal gun when he was shot. Of course that doesn't mean he deserves to die, but young people need to understand that when you live by the gun, you die by the gun.@infinityblues @de1061 @infinityblues @de1061

add1dda
add1dda

@infinityblues,

No, you STFU! Five phony lawsuits, four by the same ambulance-chaser, that netted a total of only $215,000, and a dead teenaged gangbanger who pulled a gun on cops would give any thinker pause to question the evil propaganda of the red media and black supremacists.  

anthonyandrewwilliam
anthonyandrewwilliam

@infinityblues allegations with no substantiation. You provide no argument and no facts, only allegations and name calling. Typical liberal.

JSC-NYC
JSC-NYC

are you really asking why children should not carry guns?......my only response would be you are too fucking stupid to live.......

your neighbors are victimized by this type of stupidity as much as they are held hostage to babies with guns....i have no sympathy for you or people who think such scrambled and illogical thoughts.....you create the environment you live in

racheldj
racheldj

@anthonyandrewwilliam Even if he did have a gun that probably means he was in dire need of protection. I highly doubt a 16 year old kid would start pointing a gun at cops when there are two of them and they have a multitude of weapons. Tell me, why is it okay for police to carry weapons and actually use them (abuse their abilities to use them in many cases) but when it comes to young people "they need to understand that when you live by the gun, you die by the gun." I cannot take the cops in this case seriously when 1. 11 bullets were shot into a "supicious" (whatever that even means)  looking 16 year old kid and 2. the only witness was threatened with death.

theeternalhatred
theeternalhatred

@anthonyandrewwilliam No political alignment becomes issue in a debate over events that left a person dead. Two other people's lives hanging and, a community in turmoil. Now you're letting yourself be led by the typical "conservative" way of thinking. Knock it off. In defense of those who are suspicious of police behavior I'll quote the Oscar Grant shooting. Also, look up the characteristic traits of a sociopath and think to yourself what type of employment would they seek? People just need to remember not all of them are like that though.

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