Celebrity-Stuffed PETA Video Denounces Carriage Horse Industry, Urges de Blasio To Ban It Already

The PETA video is a tone-deaf compilation of old, tired, and false material. For instance, none of the pictures of accidents in the video is more recent than 2007! (Some of the photos of dead horses that died accidentally are from 15 or 20 years ago... Funny how PETA doesn't show photos of the thousands of dead animals that it KILLS every year...)

This is a desperate attempt on the part of a few very wealthy donors to PETA and to Bill de Blasio's mayoral campaign to remind the Mayor who bought and paid for him on this issue. NYCLASS boardmember Wendy Neu is one of the top 10 or 15 donors to PETA, giving in excess of $100,000 every year (how much in excess we don't know...). Neu also spent $387,000 on New York City Is Not For Sale, and led many of the Anybody But Quinn rallies. She expects for her investment to pay off, and is no doubt frustrated by the Mayor's inaction on the carriage horse issue in City Council. In 2011, Manhattan Mini Storage gave $125,000 to fund the Lea Michele PETA ad shown in the video. Manhattan Mini Storage's CEO at the time was NYCLASS co-president and co-founder Steve Nislick. Nislick said in 2011 on the tapes I recorded of him at a NYCLASS function that PETA was "great with the celebrities." So, PETA's helped a handful of their big donors out by lining up a bunch of footage of celebrities, NONE of whom has been to the stables or who has any knowledge of horses.

I have personally invited Kathy Najimy to tour the stables with me, and she has refused.

I think by now most New Yorkers are educated enough about the carriage industry to be unswayed by PETA's rehashed hyperbole. The idea that the majority of New Yorkers are against carriage horses? Quinnipiac says that's not true. The horses live in concrete boxes? Every inspector, reporter, veterinarian, and City Council member who has been to the stable knows that's a lie. Carriages are banned in London, Paris and Toronto? False. Carriage horses go to slaughter? Not true - they currently get adopted into retirement homes through, but will be at risk for slaughter if they are banned and rendered homeless all at once.

The overwhelming majority of New Yorkers know that the carriage horses are well-cared for, that we do good things for the horses by giving them homes and jobs, that they have a retirement program through Blue Star Equiculture, and that the anti-carriage-horse activists have spent 30 years lying about our industry to promote a radical animal rights agenda. New Yorkers don't want working class carriage drivers with families to lose their livelihoods. They don't want more cars. They want to keep the city's iconic carriage horses.

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The horses are well cared for and happy. It's apparent by their appearance. Does PETA want to pay to take care of the horses? A rescue won't take them because they don't need to be resued! They are taken care of and are domesticated animals. If they stop the indusry who will take care of them? Will they go to auction? Then what? Some may get a good home but most will go to slaughter? Why can't PETA go find places where the animals are being abused? Like dog fighting or where people are starving the animals. I guess the city is a matter of "convenience protesting". Protest close to where you live on a nice day. There's not that much effort to that or to the purpose of PETA which is to protect animals.


The NYC Carriage horse's are cared for extremely well and have a easy life. PETA kills more healthy animals that could be adopted, they don't think anyone should be pet owners.FACT: As a general rule, horses are capable of pulling 2-3 times their own body weight on wheels over paved ground pretty much all day long. The average carriage horse today weighs 1200 – 1800 lbs. The typical commercial vis-à-vis used in cities around the world weighs 900 – 1000 lbs. Even fully loaded, a carriage is quite easy for a large horse to pull. It is the equivalent of an average person pushing a shopping cart with a few gallons of milk in it.A small man can even pull it. Asphalt was designed for horses to walk on to make their jobs easier; the first asphalt in New York City was used on Fifth Avenue in 1872.

frank124c topcommenter

The question is whether or not an animal can suffer. And if they can what about the farm horses that are harnessed and forced to labor for farmers. A good example of this are the Amish in Pennsylvania. Are they to be the next target of the PETA do-gooders?  

epac666 topcommenter

I find it interesting that everyone's complaining about pollution, accidents, living in cramped quarters etc., but apparently this is all ok for humans?


Thank you Christina Hanson for some sensible discussion on the subject.  The film is full of falsehoods, one being that the horses never go out to grass.  By law they have to, for 5 weeks a year, and they have to be vetted on their way out and on their way back in.  The dark interior footage shown is labeled 2007.  That was taken before all the new regulations of 2010 were put in place, so all the stables do not look anything like that and are modernized.  And to cap it all, Hilaria Baldwin is clutching at straws and can only add to the debate, the unsubstantiated claim that  "The horses don't look happy." I'd like to hear her description of what a "happy" horse looks like because I'm betting it is rooted in Walt Disney imagery.


Can there be any doubt that horses do not belong in the city? Life on the streets is misery for the horses who have to pull over-sized loads in heavy traffic and in arduous weather conditions. In the summer, they breathe in lung searing exhaust fumes and plod along scorching asphalt. In the winter, they endure freezing temperatures. They constantly must avoid collisions with careless or impatient drivers—not always successfully.

NO ONE has to lose a job.Drivers will be given first dibs to drive the new, cool vintage eco-cars.And permanent homes are ready and waiting for all 220 horses, the Black Beauty Ranch for one, can take many.

Threatening to kill horses if the rides are ended is an inflammatory tactic to get people upset and turn public opinion in favor of keeping the rides.But the very least the owners/drivers can do for the horses they’ve used to make money is to take responsibility for them.If any horse is sent to slaughter, the blame lies solely with the owner.It’s outrageous that these owners are so ready to kill horses once their “use” is over.

After decades of abuse and suffering, this industry is finally on its way to the history books where it belongs.


@epac666  PETA is concerned with animals, which is what the horses are. There are hundreds of groups and also government agencies that concern themselves exclusively with humans. I would like to point out that people have the freedom of mobility that the animals lack.

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