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Ralph Nader: Why I'm Running Again

Posted by John DeSio at 11:30 AM, March 3, 2008

Once again, Ralph Nader has thrown his hat into the presidential race. The perennial candidate spoke with the Voice about corporate greed, impeaching Bush and why he thinks Obama and Clinton are one in the same.


Village Voice: What made you decide to run for president again?

Ralph Nader
: Same reason as last time. The two parties, in varying degrees, have shut down the government, preventing us from having a chance to improve our country. They’ve turned the government over to giant corporations. When any parties or any government keep us from trying to reduce the hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths, the consumer fraud, and the deterioration of the public works, and the war in Iraq, you know, you go out and run. It’s just so obvious. We can’t tolerate it. These two parties have spoiled our country, spoiled our elections, spoiled our government and they have the arrogance to say that no one else could go on the ballot to give voters a broader choice. It’s actually against the voters.

VV: Do you think things are worse now in America than they have been in the past?

RN: Oh yes. Every year the concentration of power grips local, state and national government in the hands of more and more multinational corporations. And the result is predictable. Complete waste and distortion of public budgets. Half of the federal government’s operating budget is now the military budget. We don’t have a Soviet Union anymore, it just keeps growing and growing and growing. Massive weapons systems that have no strategic value other than to make money for Lockheed Martin and General Dynamics. Read the papers. Read the Times, read the Village Voice, read Business Week. Corporate crime waves.

It’s political bigotry. That’s what I’m saying now. Anybody that says, “don’t run,”…political bigotry. You can oppose us if we run. You can oppose a persons speech. But if you say, “do not speak, do not run,” then you’re engaged in political bigotry and censorship.

VV: Were there any mainstream candidates in the Democratic Party that you would have supported instead of running?

RN: Well, I’ve always told people to vote for [Dennis] Kucinich. I like [Mike] Gravel’s national referendum idea, which is not kooky, it’s rooted in the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. [John] Edwards, he made sure the Democrats rediscovered the word poverty, instead of just talking middle class, and he established a critique of the corporations. It’s not very fundamental, but at least he put it out there. I have no idea why he dropped out…he could have had a broker role [at the Democratic convention].

VV: What are your thoughts on Barack Obama?

RN: Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton…these people are largely corporate Democrats. He gives a fantastic speech, he’s a brilliant tactician, but basically if you look at his Senate record it’s very much leaning toward the corporate view of things. He’s not a challenging Senator like Senator [Howard] Metzenbaum or Senator [Paul] Wellstone. His proposals almost were nil on corporate crime, fraud and abuse. The only thing he did was the ethics bill which was OK, but it’s not really going to reduce much of [the] corporate power in Washington. I think he’s going to be a big disappointment if he becomes president, other than the symbolic advance of having an African-American reach the highest office. That’s not without importance, especially overseas, but he’s also raising expectation levels very high and I don’t think his Senate record or what he is ignoring is going to fulfill them.

VV: Do you still think impeachment is worth pursuing?

RN: Of course. We have two outlaws in the White House, recidivists, who have committed more impeachable offenses, regularly and daily, than any presidency in history. And they get away with it. It’s such an upside-down world. These guys have violated the FISA Act repeatedly, surveillance without a judicial warrant, that’s a felony. That’s a five-year maximum jail term. They do it regularly. Now they want to change the law so they can get away with it. The systemic torture, the violation of federal law as well as the Geneva Convention, a criminal, unconstitutional war in Iraq. We’ve got arrests of thousands of people without charges, throwing them in jail without lawyer. In the U.S., we’re talking about. And yet Chairman Rep. John Conyers of the House Judiciary Committee refuses to even have a hearing, never mind an impeachment inquiry. And that’s where we’re at. We’re basically on the way to demonstrating that presidents can systemically violate the constitution and the laws of the land an get away with it.

VV: Aside from impeachment, what’s at the top of the Ralph Nader presidential agenda?

RN: Cracking down on corporate crime, fraud and abuse, and developing a systemic deterrence to it. Single-payer health insurance, which is more efficient. Redirecting public budgets by drastically reducing corporate welfare and a bloated military budget. We have to open up the presidential debates. Public funding of public campaigns.

VV: When you announced that you were running, we saw a number of columns from people you have worked with in the past who say by running again you are “tarnishing your legacy.” How do you answer that?

RN: That’s basically an irrelevant comment. I’m worried about the 100,000 people who die in hospitals from malpractice, the 58,000 who die from occupational disease and trauma, or the millions of people who are ripped off in all kinds of ways by commercial interests and also by the government. I’ve never found one person who makes that comment who doesn’t have a good job, health insurance and a good pension. You know it’s the real America, working families, and they say, “we want people to stand up for us.” This is just the liberal intelligentsia.

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The attacks on Nader's motivations and the lies repeated about his 2000 and 2004 campaigns show just how frightened the corporate interests are that they might lose their grip on our electoral process. Remember we voters were denied a chance to vote against the war in 2004 when he was denied ballot access in most states.

Posted by: steve conn at March 3, 2008 2:20 PM

I just wrote a column about a quick recap before tomorrow's primaries and I don't understand why Nader is running.

Sure, everyone likes an underdog and I'm glad to see that the Village Voice gave him the time of day for an interview. However, as a professional journalist myself, I would have asked him that since he hasn't even come in a close second in past presidential elections, what does he honestly think his chances are now? Especially since he came into the race so late.

Let's face it, the majority of American simply doesn't want him. It's a hard fact to swallow. These are the tough questions that need to be asked to him. Well, let's face it, all the presidential candidates need to be forced to answer tough questions without using their favorite crutch of "blaming someone."

timesobserver.blogspot.com

Posted by: Anthony at March 3, 2008 2:38 PM

How can Ralph Nader be a "perennial" candidate when elections are every four years, not every year? What kind of question is this, "Is impeachment still worthwhile to pursue". Look, as a result of George and Dick violating the U.S. Constitution, impeachment is not an option. The U.S. Constitution DEMANDS IT! The Democrats and the Republicans are breaking their oath of office to protect and defend the U.S. Constitution by NOT PURSUING IT. And that is reason enough for Mr. Nader to run! Run! Ralph. Run!

Posted by: jozef at March 3, 2008 3:03 PM

Without detracting from its ideals, I have some dour thoughts on the effectiveness of democracy. My heart is with Ralph Nader on all his issues, but his faith in democracy may be naive. Power in this world-- political, military and economic-- acts on a day-to-day basis to govern people's lives. Democracy acts once every couple years, on the basis of muddled information and red-herring issues. It's just too slow to be a controlling factor in anything. A lot of bad history has been made in the last 7 years of Bush, and democracy has nothing to do with it. The electorate is fine-tuned to weigh in every 4 years with a 50-50 split of their bit-brain preferences (no instant runoff voting.) Thus democracy is easily neutralized as a real force. When we praise democracy in this country, we are praising ourselves as the nominal agents in charge of the bomb-dropping drones that we have flying all over creation. We can't blame Bush. Let's remember that.

Posted by: Carey R. Carlson at March 3, 2008 3:06 PM

Independant candidates serve a vital process in democracy as they raise issues often ingored by the powers that be. Independant votes are the citizens' leverage against the powers that be. It's not about winning elections - it's about making changes in government!

Posted by: Tom Semioli at March 3, 2008 5:50 PM

Anthony,
I know it really isn't commendable to write responses to comments, as the comment section is for comments on the article, but it seems that you were having trouble understanding why someone might run a potentially losing race.

Search Mr. Nader's election website (www.votenader.org) and find direct quotes about his campaign and goals. It will always be his goal to win. But there are significant things one can do when running even if hey lose. By causing conversation on topics that the other candidates avoid because the feel they hurt their campaign, the people will get a better sense of all the candidates and their ambitions. We should be looking for as much conversation on as many topics of interest as possible before election day. NOT CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF A CANDIDATE WINS THIS OR THAT STATE OR WHETHER THIS CANDIDATES THINKS THE OTHERS IS MUSLIM. these are irrelevant concerns. What is Hillary's plan for health care if elected? Is Hillary stealing Obama's terminology of change?

Posted by: at March 3, 2008 7:39 PM

The candidates have been talking about wanting a "change". Here's an old Army joke about "change":

After playing war games for two weeks, an Army Sergeant told his soldiers that they did a great job. He then said, "Men it's great to be back home and now we finally get to change our underwear. On my command, Smith change with Jones, Jefferson change with Washington, Perez change with Gonzales........".

If anyone wants a real change, they need to vote for someone out of the norm. Because Obama, Clinton, and McCain all make me want to "Ralph".

By the way, Ralph Nader has done more for this country then all three of them combined!

Posted by: Todd at March 3, 2008 11:43 PM

Well, Jozef, as a journalist, I can tell you that it is an important question to ask Nader. The fact of the matter is, everyone left of the Democratic Party has been screaming impeach for years, even before the war with Iraq start. Since it hasn't started yet and since President Bush will be out of office next January, it really doesn't seem likely and it would be a waste of time.

After all, is Congress going to make itself look like a bunch of hypocrites? We have to remember that they saw the same information that was gathered from U.S. military services, the U.N. and other nations. That information, from many international sources, said the same thing: That Saddam had those weapons. So Congress, as well as the president, came to the same conclusion. If members of Congress impeach President Bush, then they'll have to impeach themselves and that's political suicide.

Tom Semioli, you certainly make some very good points but sadly, many like Nader and Ron Paul are saying what this country needs isn't going to happen. Paul and Mike Gravel want to get rid of the income tax. Great idea and I'm certainly for it but is the government really going to take away its own bread and butter?

You are right that they address important issues and during the last presidential election I wrote a feature story about the problems that third party candidates have. One of the many problems that they faced was having their ideas stolen from them by the Republican and/or Democratic candidate(s). Certainly nothing new but no one likes to give credit where credit is due in politics.

There must be a better way of addressing these issues without mucking up the system if you know you don't have a shot at winning.

timesobserver.blogspot.com

Posted by: Anthony at March 4, 2008 1:27 AM

Nader makes good points, as always. He's mostly right about what's wrong with America. But he's not the person to be prez, he just doesn't have what it takes.

He couldn't get to square one with Congress. Leaders of foreign countries would take him as a joke, and America would be a laughing stock, if not the object of pity and scorn. Worse, America would be more susceptible to terrorism: Ralphie Boy wouldn't know WHAT to do in that kind of a crunch. He just doesn't have the Right Stuff. The shame of it is that his ego doesn't allow him to realize this. Ralph -- enough already. Rest on your laurels -- please!

Posted by: ArchiesBoy at March 4, 2008 9:33 AM

Ralph Nader is the person to be president, and if not him, then anyone who is aligned with his goals. Its too bad these questions are so broad. No reporters seem to dig deeper on the ballot access issue, or single payer health coverage. I look forward to the continued coverage of his campaign.

Posted by: Sean at March 4, 2008 1:35 PM

This is nuts -- Nader has no shot at winning -- the only thing he can do is siphon votes away from the Dem candidate, and do we really want that to happen this election? Corporate interests aren't scared of Nader -- at least as a presidential candidate. In fact, they are probably salivating at the prospect that he might help McCain get elected and continue the Republican domination of our country. If Nader was concerned about the issues he claims to care about in this interview, he would do more than pop up every four years to run a pointless campaign. How about helping to organize Greens or any other third party at the local level, Ralph? I hope to god this message board is not indicative of the progressive voting population at large -- if it is, we are screwed.

Posted by: jerseycorn at March 4, 2008 1:49 PM

Ralph Nader will never sit on his laurels because he has the motivation to make the necessary changes America needs. The central-leftist democrats are never going to make these changes because they sold-out, currupt oppertunists who don't stand behind their principles

Posted by: Bulgarian Girl Red at March 4, 2008 2:33 PM

To the unknown who commented to me,

Actually, it's quite common nowadays for people to make comments on others' comments.

Anyway, bringing up topics that the mainstream candidates don't want to discuss is great. I certainly don't mind that and sadly, that's something that the commentator of the debates should really be doing instead of throwing soft-ball questions at the candidates.

But Jerseycorn brought up a good point. If Ralph Nader cares so much about the country, why pop up every four years to run a losing race from the word "go"?

Don't get me wrong, I do believe he cares about this country greatly but the fact is, we don't normally hear from him enough. And he's only going to be preaching to the choir anyway. Sure, a couple of Democratic voters will listen to him but the majority won't and will scorn him for running the race and taking votes away.

I'm just saying that there has to be a better way for Nader to spread the word on unknown issues if that's what he's actually doing.

timesobserver.blogspot.com

Posted by: Anthony at March 4, 2008 4:44 PM

Since he loves his own voice, Ralph Nader should practice thanking himself out loud for Bush's numerous impeachable offenses. If it weren't for his dumb sabotage, Nader would be complaining now about the failures of the sellout President Gore. If he is so outraged by the abuses of the Republicans, why is their best friend? The GOP needs more activists like him.

In his own way, Nader is to blame for everything that has happened in Iraq.

Posted by: Benjamin Fader at March 4, 2008 6:47 PM

Thank you Ralph! Keep on speaking truth to power! Good Luck!

Posted by: Bob T. at March 5, 2008 7:08 AM

Yes, Ralph Nader is just what we need. His values are real, lived and the values he was raised with. He also knows how to speak with a brain because he clearly is a most cerebral individual who not only loves his country, knows where the problems lie, knows how to articulate those problems and to priorize each, is an educated individual and appreciates the great country we were. Go Ralph, and if I can help just let me know how to best do just that!!!

Posted by: ELLEN at March 5, 2008 9:15 AM

Listen, I understand why people want Nader to win but if he hasn't won in the last four elections, what makes his supporters think he'll win in this won? The majority of American's simply don't want him.

If he wants to spread important issues, then I think it might be best if he works for change in another avenue that works best for him and Americans, like he has done before. Because running for the White House hasn't helped him or his supporters.

timesobserver.blogspot.com

Posted by: Anthony at March 5, 2008 1:20 PM

to Anthony,

What do believe is the reason that America usually gets a republican as president? The problem is that the
democrats are so envolved in fighting eachother so that they ignore the REAL enemy. Just take a look at Obama and Clinton how wonderful they get along.

I can totally understand why truly progressive Americans don't associate themselves with the democrats. Face it!!! The democrats are not left-wing no-matter what they call themselves. They are business friendly and much to weak and conservative in making the radical improvements your country needs.

If someone like Nader would get more votes, then maybe he would actually have a chance. But it is really hopeless since most of the progressive Americans are so pesimistic

Posted by: Bulgarian Girl Red at March 5, 2008 4:35 PM

Well, Bulgarian Girl, you hit the nail on the head and I've written about that in my blog.

Americans are tired of how the Democrats are too busy stabbing each other in the back. Democrats, as a rule of thumb, can't get their act together. Let's look at Republican candidate McCain. He knew how to communicate his message and get it across and it showed on Super Tuesday when he got the majority of the votes.

Obama and Hillary didn't have a huge win and it was almost a tie. They have spent more time pointing the finger at teach other than actually telling the voters what they plan on doing.

But then we have Nader, who hasn't been able to come in second place, much less win the last four presidential elections he has been in. At this point, it's almost embarrassing to pretend he has any shot at all at this point. And if he really is running just to put certain issues on the table, then he really needs to find a better stage to do it.

timesobserver.blogspot.com

Posted by: Anthony at March 5, 2008 9:45 PM

Dear Anthony,

could you explain to me WHY someone like Ralph Nader does not have more success in America. As a foreigner I am very curious.

Posted by: Bulgarian Girl Red at March 6, 2008 8:20 AM

Dear Bulgarian Girl,

Well, Nader has done very well for himself as a consumer advocate for many years now.

But if you mean why he isn't a success politically, that is hard to say. Usually, when a candidate is too far in the political spectrum (too liberal or too conservative) he or she alienates themselves from the general public.

Sure, that extreme candidate will have followers but his or her views don't reflect the moderate voters.

Because of this, a candidate like Nader does not have the strong support that the more popular candidates have, and thus, do not have the financial backing that is needed to run a big campaign.

This isn't really an American thing, because this happens in many different countries.

I hope this helps you.

timesobserver.blogspot.com

Posted by: Anthony at March 6, 2008 11:01 AM

yes, thank you!!!

Posted by: Bulgarian Girl Red at March 6, 2008 2:55 PM

Anthony, being a journalist cannot save you from revealing yourself to be a pompous, patronizing idiot. The reasons Ralph has never won is : a) he doesn't have a competitive, corporate financed budget compared to the corporate friendly candidates of the D or R b) The democrats and republicans collude to keep third parties out of their presidential debates c) the media is unfriendly to third parties because the heads of the companies (ie. Rupert Murdoch) have an interest in propagating the status quo, so a lot of misinformation is spread about.

When you look at the polls on people's opinions about social problems and issues, Ralph's positions ARE mainstream. The majority of Americans are OK with Bush being impeached, for example. These polls are never talked. Ralph is more aligned with the views of the mainstream than either the corrupted democrats or republicans.

Posted by: Anon at March 7, 2008 3:32 PM

Gravel Kucinich Paul Nader;
dare speak truth,
demand peace.

Honesty compassion intelligence guts -

Posted by: gravel kucinich paul nader at March 9, 2008 12:11 PM

Anthony says that Nader's opinions alienate the general public. Can Anthony or anyone tell me WHICH of Nader's opinions alienate him? Here are his opinions:

Pull out of Iraq now.
Prosecute Bush & Cheney as criminals.
Crack down on corporations.
End corporate personhood, subsidies, tax breaks.
Curtail globalization and "free trade," the destroyers of all local cultures and economies.
Sign the Kyoto Accord.
Tax carbon emissions.
Create single-payer health insurance.
Drastically reduce the military budget.
Open up the presidential debates to third parties.
Publicly fund campaigns.
Begin instant run-off elections (like London and Ireland).

I think Nader is CORRECT on all the above, and since he is the ONLY candidate who has the courage to advocate these policies, it is our duty to support and vote for him. The Democrats and Republicans are corporate puppets. Every vote for Nader is a vote for real change. No movement can succeed without a beginning.

Posted by: James Hannum at March 11, 2008 11:21 PM

Ralph Nader doesn't just "pop up every four years" to run for President. That's just the only time that he seems to get any real coverage. The man writes articles on a regular basis.

Posted by: Stan at March 25, 2008 11:20 PM

Think about logic. Nader = Republican hitman. Another election lost. This isn't a vote for homecoming queen this is the presidency! If he REALLY cared about this country he would not run. All he is doing is shaving points for one side or the other. He knows he won't get elected, he also knows he will probably be helping one of the other parties out if he runs. So why would he run with what has happened in the past>? Is he sending a message? And if so, is this message worth ruining the whole election and possibly the country? THINK LOGIC.

Posted by: thinkabout it at August 21, 2008 12:34 PM

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