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NY Scientology Chief: "I Smell Pussy"

Posted by Candice M. Giove at 2:52 PM, May 28, 2008

When Rev. John Carmichael, president of the Church of Scientology of New York, came face-to-face with a small contingent of Anonymous protestors this past Monday, he didn't engage them in a spiritual debate. Instead, he leaned into one member on a Times Square street and said, “Let me tell you this: I smell pussy.” Then, looking squarely at the Anon added, “You in particular.”

All caught on tape, Carmichael hits a breaking point with the handful of protestors at about 5:17 seconds into the Anon-edited clip, conveniently posted the same day on YouTube. Carmichael threatens the group, after yelling at an almost nose-to-nose distance with one Anon over disclosing his name. (With the Church’s documented history of assailing dissenters through its fair game policy, and with legal threats delivered to a couple of New York Anons already, protestors try to keep their identities guarded—hence the Anonymous.) He also implores them to “come out of the closet.”

Typically, New York Anons pop into the Times Square area—close to the Church’s 46th Street center—to conduct “flash raids” in between their larger monthly rallies. This particular visit took place on Memorial Day, the footage opening up with Anonymous members chalking up the sidewalk grade-school-style, warning passersby to skip the free “stress test” that the Church of Scientology offers to rope in potential members, and later taunting Rev. John Carmichael to his face (Take “your spaceship and go away!”). It also captures how adept the group has become at preventing Scientology officials from capturing their likenesses on film and later identifying them: using the ol' celebrity-bodyguard trick of pointing a flashlight at the camera. Impressively crafty, but not to Rev. John Carmichael.

Anonymous will hold their next protest on June 14th.

comments

This is very entertaining stuff. I think i saw Tom Cruise walking past them on the DL.
http://www.rejectionism.com

Posted by: Dick_Gozinya at May 28, 2008 3:31 PM

Since "Reverend" Carmichael has a long-term history of stalking and harassing critics of Scientology at home, the reluctance of Anonymous to give personal information seems understandable.

Church Of Scientology Hits Critics Where They Live December 28, 1997, David O'Reilly, Knight-Ridder, Seattle Times
http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/texis.cgi/web/vortex/display?slug=2580409&date=19971228

Posted by: Ron S at May 28, 2008 3:33 PM

A Reverend? The Cult of Scientology must be especially proud of this Carmichael guy. Disgusting. He needs his mouth washed out with soap! This is the "faith" that Tom Cruise follows?
Is the "I smell pussy" one of the OT levels?

Posted by: AC2 at May 28, 2008 3:38 PM

If a Catholic bishop said that to someone protesting the sex abuse scandal, that would create a hellfire that would sweep America's Catholic community. This is a FLUNK for Scientology, a FLUNK for John Carmichael, and a FLUNK for David Miscavige, leader of Scientology, their "little Napoleon."

Also, Body Thetans and Xenu.

Posted by: Mark Bunker fandom at May 28, 2008 3:38 PM

Woah I love Anonymous! Go get these crazy bastards!

Posted by: Laura at May 28, 2008 3:40 PM

Indeed, is this the way a religion should engage with its critics? No. This is yet more evidance of the Church of Scientologies fair gaming policy.

Find out more.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 28, 2008 3:41 PM

ahhhhh. Scientology, without a doubt its worst enemy are scientologists.

next time, get a permit for your stress table before you cry wolf to the cops.

Posted by: al at May 28, 2008 3:42 PM

Civility? In THEIR Church?

It's less likely than you think. Things like this show that Scientology's nice side stops short after recruitment tactics and buttering up celebrities.

Posted by: Nonny at May 28, 2008 3:44 PM

What fascinates me most is the scientologist's obsession with "coming out of the closet". Does he imagine that out and proud gay anons don't exist?

With this guy's comments in mid, scientology's insistence on "curing" homosexuality is particularly laughable.

I think scientologists are so isolated from the outside world that they imagine everyone must be as repressed as they are.

Posted by: David Mudkip at May 28, 2008 3:49 PM

Just more proof that this so called "religion" is NOT by any means peaceful nor ghandi-like..if this is a superior mind then they can keep it

Posted by: Nonanon at May 28, 2008 3:51 PM

Wow, dinner AND a floor show in NY. That Carmichael is crafty to do something so outrageous in front of the camera that nobody on earth would believe it. Get this man some real counseling ...

Posted by: Chip Gallo at May 28, 2008 3:52 PM

Can you say RPF!

Posted by: Anon at May 28, 2008 3:53 PM

You guys missed the second best part of what happened that day, and what probably had the Rev. so enturbulated at the Anon's. Just prior to this incident, their stress test tables got closed down by the cops, whom they called themselves to try and make the Anons go away, for operating in Times Square without a vendor license! They even got fined over it.

Karma?

Posted by: Mouse at May 28, 2008 3:53 PM

Anonymous is always recruiting new Anonymous to join the just battle against the cult of greed and power. Please join the movement at enturbulation.org and take part in the justice and LOL's.

Posted by: AnonymousNow at May 28, 2008 3:54 PM

Perhaps if the "reverend" quit gargling with Massengill he wouldn't be having these olfactory issues.

I smell something: insanity.

Posted by: David Mudkips at May 28, 2008 4:09 PM

Nice job following this story Candice. The Village Voice is another voice of reason in the den of iniquity!

Posted by: Dawn at May 28, 2008 4:20 PM

Using the "Reverend" title is misleading. John Carmichael has never attended any form of seminary regardless of belief structure.

Business promotions are not equivalent to spiritual study.

His use of the moniker is fraudulent and an affront to the integrity of such longstanding institutions.

Posted by: Terryeo at May 28, 2008 4:21 PM

Churchly behavior this is not. Between Yvette Shank (of Toronto) delivering the threat and this incident, the leaders sure know how to represent their "religion". The whole world will see what scum the church's representatives are.

Posted by: Anon at May 28, 2008 4:21 PM

Carmichael......
I've known him as long as I knew Mike Rinder,(who used to run PR and has since left Scientology, too). I'll say the same thing to John that I said to Mike: "GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE. THEY ARE USING YOU, YOU ARE WASTING YOUR LIFE, FOR WHAT?

Is this *honestly* what you got into Scientology for? I knew you, John, years ago---when you did want to help. Here's a clue: Whispering "I SMELL PUSSY" For a "Top PR" is beyond sick, you
LOST THE GAME!
Tory Christman, X-Scientologist after 30 years "in", escaped out in 2000: FREE AT LAST!
Thanks to the Village Voice for their exposure of this insidious CULT's activities.

Posted by: Tory Christman at May 28, 2008 4:30 PM

This guy has showed up at conferences for researchers of cultic groups and ex-cult members for years and years...his only intention is to intimidate people.

Imagine someone coming out of FLDS or COG or dozens of other high demand groups trying to sort their life out and they run into this..this..this, person. This church can say/believe whatever they want, who cares? It's what they do that makes them an evil cult. Thanks Reverend for showing everyone exactly how you "help".

Anonymous - you Rock! you Rock! you Rock! and you Rock!

Posted by: Cindy at May 28, 2008 4:31 PM

I love the way he verifies the existence of "Fair Game" when he tells the Anon they are afraid AND HE DOESN'T BLAME THEM.

That is one creepy Cultie.

Posted by: Ben at May 28, 2008 4:35 PM

Congrats and thanks to the New York anons for showing us the true face of scientology.

Posted by: William Buddusky at May 28, 2008 4:36 PM

In an unfilmed segment of the entire encounter, I warned Carmichael "The first victim in any war is common sense, and the second is a free and fair open discussion," warning him, "Don't be an idiot!"

Suffice to say, he didn't listen.

Posted by: AnonNation at May 28, 2008 4:44 PM

I believe he said , 'I Shtmell Puthy'.
It is unfortunate to see his magical Operating Thetan powers could not eliminate his speech impediment... I mean they claim to have control over matter, space and time, so why can't he speak minus the lithp?
Just for kicks, google Carmichael and see his other criimes against humanity. The answer the following question: Would you ever join a 'church' that has a person like this as their local leader?
Also interesting to see how creeped out the pedestrians looked when the $cilons were running around trying to get pictures of Anon. What would they want pictures, names and addresses for I wonder?
xenu.net has all the answers.

Posted by: Anubis at May 28, 2008 4:47 PM

The Scientology Chief Reverend reminds me of Hannibal Lecter's cell mate--who claimed to also be able to smell that, from Agent Starling, in the movie "Silence of the Lambs."

Hopeful the reverend won't be throwing bodily fluid on protesters at the next demonstration.

What a church of holy.

Posted by: Phatmanotoo at May 28, 2008 4:51 PM

Yes, and I smell something rotten in Denmark, or "new" York --- the "church" of Scientology. Many people already knew that the business of Scientology was particularly nasty, but this is just shockingly crude behavior on the part of someone who supposedly represents a spiritual organization.

If Scientology weren't so relentlessly driven to recruit new victims, and to attack anyone who casts aspersions on its questionable practices, "Reverend" Carmichael could just go back inside and wait for the protesters to go away, which they certainly would.

How many times do you see priests or preachers out stalking protesters, on the few occasions when there are any? Never, that's when. How many times do you see preachers or priests taking photos of people who disagree with practices of their religious organizations? Never, that's when. When do you see creepy people like this fellow leaning in and saying things like "I smell pussy. You in particular." to someone on the street? Never, that's when.

Yet another sign that Scientology is NOT a religion, and its "org" is anything but a "church."

Posted by: Janie at May 28, 2008 4:53 PM

From the above you tube video

Anonymous person: "I'm not afraid of you"

John Carmichael: "You're afraid, and I don't blame you"

scientology is like the mafia, only worse.

Posted by: Brian ` at May 28, 2008 4:55 PM

This is more proof that the ecclesiastic decorum of the 'church' of scientology is all a lie to achieve tax exempt status as a 'religion'

THAT is a 'reverend'?

Their use of the Christian cross is a disgusting appropriation of religious iconography, has nothing to do with Scientology and is a slap in the face to every Christian and taxpayer in this country.

REVOKE TAX EXEMPT STATUS FOR THE CULT OF SCIENTOLOGY.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 28, 2008 5:11 PM

Wow, they're right. Scientology really does teach you to communicate effectively!

What a 'reverend'. Good grief.

Posted by: An deVries at May 28, 2008 5:17 PM

That's great. What a homophobic jerk. If he is the president of Scientology in New York, that means he has to be a member of high standing. If he is such an angry jerk, obviously their "church" isn't doing what it is supposed to do.

I thought they were supposed to be experts on the human mind and the enlightened ones. Why do they all seem so angry and/or maniac-crazy/fake happy (like Cruise)?

Posted by: Trace at May 28, 2008 5:35 PM

Newfags, all of u, wear a mask, was prolly noobs like u that didnt use a proxy, so the loader got shutdown.

Posted by: anonymous at May 28, 2008 5:41 PM

Great article you got there. I saw the video when it came out and it's just incredible to watch a "leader" of this NY Org flipping his lid and acting completely inappropriately. Loving the Cult of Scientology articles you've been putting out - you're holding no punches!

Posted by: Cami A at May 28, 2008 5:45 PM

How would a 50 yr old virgin like Carmichael know what pussy smells like?

Posted by: The Riddler at May 28, 2008 5:50 PM

I can't believe a grown man acting like that to a group of young people! Shame on you Mr. Carmichael. I am not going to call him Reverend. He besmirches that title. Is this the type of person Scientology honors?

Posted by: Mandy at May 28, 2008 5:58 PM

Fake Reverend is fake.
Fake religion is fake.
EVIL CULT IS EVIL.

Posted by: Josh at May 28, 2008 6:01 PM

One important item that has been lost in the flurry of "reverends" indulging in foul language is, the stress test table was closed down after the cult called the whaaambulence in the form of NYPD.

They had no permits. The cops closed them down and fined them. It's not as glamorous as the head of a "religion" saying 'I smell pussy' but it's very significant.

Posted by: xenubarb at May 28, 2008 6:11 PM

Wat

Posted by: J zig at May 28, 2008 7:01 PM

This post was so perfect I had to echo it:

This is more proof that the ecclesiastic decorum of the 'church' of scientology is all a lie to achieve tax exempt status as a 'religion'

THAT is a 'reverend'?

Their use of the Christian cross is a disgusting appropriation of religious iconography, has nothing to do with Scientology and is a slap in the face to every Christian and taxpayer in this country.

REVOKE TAX EXEMPT STATUS FOR THE CULT OF SCIENTOLOGY.

Posted by: pokerslut at May 28, 2008 7:15 PM

lulz very unprofessional, esspicaly from a rev.

maybe hes not as spiritial as we thought

Posted by: anonymous at May 28, 2008 7:21 PM

more information about Anonymous and Project Chanology can be found at ChanologyPortal.com

Posted by: James Brown at May 28, 2008 7:28 PM

Haha, that was HILARIOUS. Looks like the church of organized crime is losing its patience. Just push a little more, everybody. Every little thing helps

Posted by: NY Ciddy at May 28, 2008 7:49 PM

scientology keeps telling people to check them out and read dianetics so that they can learn how to communicate better - well, its done wonders for this idiot.
Thats some nice "religion" and "reverend" you got there scientology.
It won't be long now before this cult gets shut down.
The first one to talk gets immunity - the rest go to jail.

Posted by: KeeKee at May 28, 2008 7:55 PM

I still can't believe I had missed it! I was too busy telling the family right next to us who Carmichael was, and how he was actually the *head* of the NY Org.
Needless to say, they wanted some fliers.

Posted by: LS at May 28, 2008 7:57 PM

Wow, that's absolutely shocking behaviour for a "Reverand".

He should be ashamed of himself, and scientology should be ashamed for teaching its followers that this kind of behaviour is acceptable.

Disgusting.

Posted by: Anon at May 28, 2008 8:07 PM

To David Miscavige.

Knowledge report.
John Carmichael

Last Monday John was out on the streets of New York whispering the top secret clear fognition to passersby. This is out security.

Tommy Davis

Hope I`ve sent this to the right address.

Posted by: randomx at May 28, 2008 8:28 PM

Usually when I notice people in NY calling themselves Reverend and saying anything this weird, they're homeless.

Posted by: Scientology at May 28, 2008 8:37 PM

absolutely ridiculous, scientology

Posted by: bandfred at May 28, 2008 8:47 PM

hahahahahahahahaha
what a spaz... sthilly sthienthologith thricks are for kidth...
hahahhahah straight out of house party...

Posted by: at May 28, 2008 8:47 PM

If they were benign like they claim, they wouldn't be harassing people. Anonymous Rocks! I am looking forward to joining the rank and file!

I understand that they don’t tell their parishioners about Xenu until they are deemed worthy of “OT III” (level 3) and have spent over 100,000 dollars. Why tell them something that is going to make them look bad? If I wanted the average Joe to take me seriously, I wouldn’t come out and say that an evil overlord Xenu dumped aliens into a volcano in Hawaii millions of years ago, and their spirits were forced to watch bad TV and get brainwashed, so on and so forth, and that they reside in us…. Also, keeping my people that are in the public-eye either WELL paid (so that they don’t mind lying) or below OT III (so that they can lie with a straight face) for those pesky Xenu questions.

But, really, what were they expecting from a “religion” based on a Sci-fi writer’s ranting that were mediocre at best? (LRH was no Orson Scott Card or Douglas Adams, my friends.) And AFTER you find out that crap, why aren’t you so disgusted that you throw up your hands in revulsion and rally against others getting duped? Why keep up the charade?????

Unless you are profiting from it,(500 bucks is pretty steep for a yearly membership for a "church.") and then it would be in your best interest to keep your congregation from knowing the truth. Telling them that they would go insane or become retarded if they knew about upper levels before they were supposed to know might work. Oh, yeah! They actually say that…

Posted by: Domino at May 28, 2008 8:54 PM

priceless

Posted by: richard rholin at May 28, 2008 8:58 PM

Tho, how you gonna thpin this thientology?

Posted by: Mark A. Bian at May 28, 2008 9:33 PM

...and we've got the unofficial remix using phrases only from the video above. Use the link below. (mp3 / 2.09 MB)

Posted by: annoymouse at May 28, 2008 10:03 PM

I heard that the Scilons had to pay $5000 "clams" for their permit-less table!

Posted by: L.T. Catnarok at May 28, 2008 10:04 PM

The protesters seem like a bunch of immature kids. They goaded that man for sure but he is a far cry from a reverand and it's laughable to think that any church official would act that way under any pressure. The more we find out about Scientology the less it seems like a church at all.

Posted by: David at May 28, 2008 10:32 PM

John has been a known crime boss unsalted nut since day 1 since the so-called "Old Guard" have been picketing and protesting against Scientology's crimes and abuses. This isn't the first time that the kook yarked off like this and showed himself to be the mental equal to his mentor (and fellow criminal-at-large) Heber Jentzsch.

Scientology makes sane people in to utterly insane, frothingly violent nuts. Scientology makes people with mental difficulties in to people like Heber, Miscaviage, and Charmichael.

Posted by: Fredric L. Rice at May 28, 2008 10:35 PM

For maximum laughs, think back to John Sweeney. Remember him? He was the veteran BBC reporter who was filming a report about Scientology. In order to do a fair report, of course, he had to talk to both sides. This was exactly what Scientology wanted to prevent, and so Scientology sent their PR flack Tommy Davis to interrupt Sweeney's interview with someone from a side other than Scientology's. With this highly unprofessional action, they managed to goad Sweeney into an also very unprofessional outburst, and they proceeded to take it out of context and distribute it on more than 100,000 DVDs.

Now the shoe is on the other foot. This will spread farther and wider than the Sweeney video ever did. What does it say about the Church of Scientology that they have this man as one of their "Reverends"?

Posted by: AF at May 28, 2008 11:03 PM

Everybody: ... Ronnie's bridge is falling down, falling down, falling down!

Posted by: AnonymAz at May 28, 2008 11:48 PM

go anons!

this guy's frustration is them starting to crack

Posted by: me at May 29, 2008 12:14 AM

Here's a great idea for a sign for the
June 14th picket: A big blowup of John from the video with a voice baloon saying "I Smell Pu**y!"

Meanwhile, here's another Scientology parody song for everyone's enjoyment:

espee = SP = Suppressive Person, scienospeak for disgruntled former member and/or someone antagonistic to Scientology
declare = official declaration by church that you are espee
redge = registrar = high pressure scieno salesperson
ethics guy = ethics officer = church discipline guy

To the tune of "Don't Worry, be Happy",
Don't Worry, be espee


Here's a little song I wrote,
you might want to sing it note for note
Don't worry, be espee.
Every scieno will someday get a declare,
But when you worry you get despair.
Don't worry, be espee
Don't worry, be espee now.

Don't worry, be espee Don't worry, be espee.
Don't worry, be espee Don't worry, be espee.

When the ethics guy gets in your head,
Behind someone you took to bed,
Don't worry, be espee.
When the redge says you have special needs,
Sell your house and use the proceeds,
Don't worry, be espee.
Don't worry, be espee.

Don't worry, be espee Don't worry, be espee.
Don't worry, be espee Don't worry, be espee.

Posted by: Pete at May 29, 2008 12:28 AM

haha the cult is crumbling! FBI PARTYVAN GONNA ROLL ON SHORTY MISCAVIGE LULZ

Posted by: scientology sucks at May 29, 2008 12:38 AM

I wonder where all the OSA sockpuppets are? How will they try to spin THIS news article? :)

Posted by: Anon at May 29, 2008 1:37 AM

This being Wednesday, I would expect the comments section to be filled with the usual cult security plants, roundly defending the actions of their leadership in order to boost their ever important stats. Stats which had better be "up" and MUST be submitted by 2:00 PM local time on Thursday.

C'mon Scientologists, if there ever was an excuse to excercise some of those OT abilities that you've paid so much for, this is surely a good one. Of course, there's really no such thing. Is there?

The 4th Dynamic will NOT be handled.

Time to blow people. 1/800-xSeaOrg Help is on the line.

Posted by: Karin at May 29, 2008 1:58 AM

Hey Maybe they should to use shopping carts for their stress test. They do kinda sound like agressive panhandlers and homeless people, but calling them that is a dis-service to homeless people
everywhere.

Posted by: Memfus Anon at May 29, 2008 2:04 AM

Heh, InB4 "Terryeo" though that isn't him.

Common man, is this something you can't deny with your irrefutable logic?

Seems that South Park reflected oddly on them.

"We're not coming out of the closet, there's pussy outside the closet now"

Posted by: Arbalest at May 29, 2008 3:20 AM

So this revrent just said "you're affraid and I don't blame you".

Affraid of what exactly?

Posted by: Bill at May 29, 2008 3:38 AM

Scientology's Public Enemy #1 IS: Scientology.

http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/texis.cgi/web/vortex/display?slug=2580409&date=19971228

Posted by: David M. at May 29, 2008 3:50 AM

Any respect I may have had for this "religion" has now gone. What a disgusting way to treat members of the public. If he doesn't have the grace to rise above it, what is he doing as a Reverend? If I ran Scientology I would be requesting Mr Carmichael's resignation asap.

Posted by: Alice at May 29, 2008 6:24 AM

By the look of these anon losers hiding behind masks, i'm not suprised he smelt pussy and not the good type. Funny how they harass people that are practising their religous beliefs and then take offence at this. The main speaker wanted to discuss how homosexuality isn't fully rational behaviour, WTF??

Posted by: mark at May 29, 2008 6:39 AM

That's a wrap. Put it in the can. Ship to news rooms.

Scientology's worst enemy is itself. Again.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 29, 2008 6:51 AM

reverend pussy sniffer is a fine example of the upper echelons of scientology.

Posted by: lawbster at May 29, 2008 7:02 AM

The world is laughing at you, David Miscavige. Your pawns are falling one by one and there's nothing you can do about it.

Anybody who has not blown the cult should do so now while they can. Have no doubt, Miscavige will take out his fury and shame on you.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 29, 2008 7:27 AM

The number to blow is not an 800#. It is toll free:

1-866-XSEAOREG. Also visit the website linked below. They would even help Carmichael himself.

Go ahead, John. If Mike Rinder can blow and make it out here, so can you!

Posted by: no name at May 29, 2008 7:48 AM

Danny is that you? If it is I want you to come home right now. Your Mom loves you and she is worried. You're going to get into trouble with those Christian Scientists. Before you know it you'll be a zombie living in California and every cent that you got when Zedah past away will be in their hands. Please Danny, we all worry about you.

Posted by: Gump Mahoolawich at May 29, 2008 7:55 AM

80 comments and no OSA trolls? Come on OSA how you gonna spin this? I'm dying to see.

Posted by: Marcab LO at May 29, 2008 7:58 AM

In absence of Scientology defenders and shills, I shall attempt to pretend to be an OSA sock puppet, else the usually wordy and sometimes entertaining batter between Scientologist and Anonymous will not occurs.

So let the drum roll,

When Rev. John Carmichael, president of the Church of Scientology of New York said “I smell pussy,” he was in fact attempting say “I tawt I taw a puddy tat!" a line made famous by Tweety Bird, the yellow canary from Warner brothers.

Unfortunately the closure of their (scientology’s) stand for not having a street license by police they themselves (irony at its best) called had sent Rev. John Carmichael into an apoplectic rage. Unable to speak clearly (having lost his communication superpowers) or think clearly (having lost his OT powers), Rev. John Carmichael, president of the Church of Scientology of New York’s attempt to recite “I tawt I taw a puddy tat!", ended up as “I … sawt pussy.”

This ambiguous utterance would have easily miss constructed as a number of things, such as ‘I swat pussy’, ‘I sought pussy’, ‘I sweat pussy’, ‘Pussy is sweet’, or even ‘I smell pussy’.

This was all was a mistake. Rev. Carmichael had not the slightest intention to harass, or insult the male Anon.

Rumours that Rev. Carmichael had mistaken the male Anon for a female Anon, or a very large bipedal cat (where the phrase ‘I smell pussy’ could be correct...although still quite vulgar) are untrue. Scientology has Gender Tech, (which allows members to perform the extremely complicated process of telling men and women apart. Women now where pants these days, and some even have short hair, thus the need for Tech) and Man-Animal-Alien Tech (which allows differentiating a human from an animal from an alien).

Posted by: KLY at May 29, 2008 8:27 AM

"You're afraid, and I don't blame you"

wat?

Posted by: Anonymonymouse at May 29, 2008 9:13 AM

What do you expect from the "Reverend" of a "Church" that bases all of it's beliefs on the recycled (bad) Science Fiction stories of L Ron Blubbard.

He couldn't sell them for a penny a word so he called them a "new religion" and charges $380,000 to read them.
This is what happens to a human who believes such rubbish.
Carmichael is PATHETIC

Posted by: Zenster at May 29, 2008 10:37 AM

I imagine if they plan to defend in any meaningul way, it will be after 2 pm. If they defend before that it just means more downstat. If they do it after they at least can try and recover from the resulting downstat later in the week.

Posted by: al at May 29, 2008 11:59 AM

@Mark who said: "By the look of these anon losers hiding behind masks, i'm not suprised he smelt pussy and not the good type. Funny how they harass people that are practising their religous beliefs and then take offence at this. The main speaker wanted to discuss how homosexuality isn't fully rational behaviour, WTF??"
The speaker was quoting the "religious" cult's own book DIANETICS, the speaker was offended by those remarks and wanted to understand WHY a religion created in the 20th century would have tenets like that.. Watch it again.

Posted by: AC2 at May 29, 2008 12:33 PM

Igonoring us OSA is not going to make us go away. Nor is it going to prevent us from mentioning the fact that David Miscavige is altering Hubbard's tech.

Posted by: Gerard Ofman at May 29, 2008 12:34 PM

Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk, Its like that three stooges episode when ...........

Posted by: john at May 29, 2008 1:21 PM

Epic! Pure epic!

The cracks are really starting to show now. You know the best part? The cops are getting sick of looking at those stress-tables day in and day out.

"Ohh! Some people are putting the word "cult" on the sidewalks officer, I'm very offended! I want you to arrest them immediately, Hey! I pay your f%$# salary! Arrest them NOW!"

Heh! Arrest this Scilons!
Now the cops have an excuse to bust them, wherever they poke their heads out. They think the Plymouth Kill-dozer is bad, wait till they get a load of the NYPD with their hackles up.

Nice going Anonymus! You people rock and rock and don't stop.....

Don't stop!!!

Posted by: The Odd Emperor at May 29, 2008 1:26 PM

Hi Mark,

As a Scientologist, I understand how badly you want to believe that these protesters are malicious in nature and ill-informed about Scientology.

I, too, wanted to dismiss this Anonymous rabble as a simply a group of ignorant and bored ne'er-do-wells. When these Anonymous protesters began their campaign, I figured this would be a youth fad, and die out in weeks, or a few months at most.

I decided to research the group, looking for ammunition against them, but to my surprise I found that these young people are peaceful, well informed and well intentioned.

These protesters have displayed a keen understanding of Scientology. What's more, they understand the nefarious and abusive workings of the management better than most public Scientologists. Having been both a Staff member and a Public Scientologist, I know that the wild stories about abused and imprisoned staff are true, and I have decided that this must stop. I now believe that Scientology is infected with deadly parasite, who is devouring souls on a daily basis: Chairman of the Board, David Miscavige.

Mark, we Scientologists are always directed outward, away from the true source of all this enturbulation. We are told to ignore entheta (negative press, protests, ex-members stories.) This technique is used to control us and keep us from knowing the truth.

Would L Ron Hubbard ever tell somebody to avoid reading a book? Of course not!
He taught that you should evaluate the data and decide what the truth is for yourself.

So that is what I did. I went to the websites like the Project Chanology and the Ex Scientology Message Board. I confronted the SPs there. What I learned shocked me, to say the least.

Scientology is not what it once was. It has been slowly transformed under the control of David Miscavige.
COB is pulling it in, and unless you step away from Scientology you will not be able to acknowledge this truth. David Miscavige has squirreled the tech. David Miscavige is out-ethics, and there is nobody to check him. Nobody would ever dare write a KR on the COB, and nobody can fix the problems from inside, as DM has totally disabled the original checks and balances set up by L Ron Hubbard to truly Keep Scientology Working.

Is David Miscavige the #1 Suppressive Person on Earth? Mark, think about it. Do some independent research, and find out the truth, for you.

Mark, the Bridge To Total Freedom is actually the Bridge to Total Enslavement.
Get off the bridge, and join me on solid ground in the real world.

bgodley, with eyes wide open, thanks to Anonymous.

Posted by: bgodley at May 29, 2008 2:53 PM

top of page.... "reverend" of "church" listhping about sthmelling puthhy... bottom of page advertisment for same "church" ...

Whats that i hear? the faint cry of the seldom seen endangered guppie loon... Already rare due to its diet of blue asbestos these birds are remarkably adept at loading shotguns, aiming them at their own feet and firing ... making them notoriously easy prey for lurking internet preadators...

moar

Posted by: montecristo at May 29, 2008 5:07 PM

Look at what you have become John Carmichael!!! Get out while there is still left in you an ounce of sanity. You don't have to propitiate any longer. You were never going to get what you were promised and all your efforts have been for nothing. Church management does not care about you, care about saving a planet, care about human life or human rights. It's all a con game and you have been one of their biggest pawns. Run and don't look back. Get a life before it's too late. You've been trying to hold up the walls of that decrepid building for far too long. You've spent too many years working long hours for no or little pay, and you've been living by propaganda instead of truth for too long.
Look at what you have become... fighting against free speech ?? Fighting against the rights of others to express an opinion? Reaching into an empty bag of ideas to attack (because Hubbard told us to keep attacking) and look what you came up with. You lost it.
From the book: THE RAPE OF THE MIND: The Psychology of Thought Control, Menticide, and Brainwashing, by Joost A. M. Meerloo, M.D we read "... (the techniques used in modern brainwashing) are not like the medieval torture of the rack and the thumb-screw. They are subtler, more prolonged, and intended to be more terrible in their effect. They are calculated to disintegrate the mind of an intelligent victim, to distort his sense of values, to a point where he will not simply cry out "I did it!" but will become a seemingly willing accomplice to the complete disintegration of his integrity and the production of an elaborate fiction."

What will be left of you after you are overwhelmed by the gang bang security checks confessional you'll be forced to go under because of this.

Take Barbara and get the heck out of this con game once and for all.

"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul." -Matthew 10:28

Posted by: Mary at May 30, 2008 1:21 AM

Looks like I found a new "Wingman"!

Posted by: Perceptics at May 30, 2008 12:09 PM

So much for "superior minded." So far, I haven't seen any OT8 powers except for an increased sense of smell. And all it does is smell pussy.

Posted by: AnonBaG at May 31, 2008 2:21 AM

Fail NYC $cientology is fail.

Posted by: NijeDobro at May 31, 2008 2:30 AM

The big question: was Longcat present at the time?

Posted by: gcanon at June 3, 2008 9:07 PM

I saw a goth chick on the D train Saturday. She had a poster that said "Sea Org - pushing the three A's Abortion, Asbestos and Abuse since 1956." I would have spoken to her but I'm too shy. She got off at West 4th St.

Posted by: Fran Zabich at June 16, 2008 7:28 PM

That was the funniest thing I've seen since Tom Cruises video on SPs.

I am a victim of one of their drug rehabs and gave them $30,000 for one big lie after another.

Keep on going after these cult lying money hungry poor excuses for humans.

Posted by: Marcella at July 31, 2008 11:12 PM

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