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While I don't condone violent protest like the Black Panthers have a history of doing, It's nice that Anonymous is getting the support of other groups of protesters as well, even if it is only fleeting.

Video is here, by the way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QUlq5Dqqk4

In before OSA (Scientology's "Office of Special Affairs", basically their black ops) agents come in here and claim that anonymous associates with other violent protest groups.

Derp de derp.

I would caution all Anon to stay far away from those other groups. They operate a different way than we do. I don't believe being associated with them is going to help, That would easily be spun by OSA. We don't want to be linked to what those other groups will do or have done in the past.
RIP Sean Bell murdered by NYPD

It's great to see Anonymous out there using it's right to free speech. I used to be a Scientologist until I found out what a horribly fascist style organization it was. It's time all of America see Anonymous for what it is, a group of patriots fighting the good fight

Though it's no excuse at all, LRH was a racist product of his time. You don't have to search far to find other examples of his racism even if this reference were untrue. Search for yourself on the internet for discussions about the differences between the current 2007 edition of Dianetics and past editions and how they've had to cull all the racism out of it. (keywords - dianetics zulu racism) After all, if they are going to artificially keep it on best seller lists by buying it themselves off the shelves, better update and make it more politically correct before too many fingers get pointed. Dianetics is the tip of the iceberg. You don't have to believe me. Educate yourself. Look at both sides. Decide for yourself.

Here's a few words from LRH himself to get you started...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iy0HMrRcYs

The letter may be unsubstantiated, but there are many other examples of dear old LRon spouting off racist remarks and other disparaging comments about black people and their intellectual capacity. These ARE absolutely sourceable and in some cases, even available as audio.

I will say this much for Hubbard: if you don't mind nasal intonation he had a good narrating voice when he was coherent (which was the minority of the time, it seems).

Anonymous is VERY rooted in racism:

http://anonymoushategroup.blogspot.com/2008/05/show-us-black-or-jewish-anonymous.html

Casual contact and an exchange of information isn't exactly a "union." I'm glad that both groups were out demonstrating against things they find reprehensible -- and that they were able to share information with each other in a peaceful way.

This is a triumph, in and of itself. However, neither groups is the other's personal army. Their interests and methods remain distinct.

""While the validity of his claim cannot be verified because no copy of the letter is available".....this is made up and pure propaganda. "

If you are saying that the LRJ quote is "pure propaganda", I would respond that your position is less than conjecture. All the stories coming out from ex scientologists are alarming in their uniformity. To take the position you appear to take, you would have to believe everyone in the world is a liar except for COS spokespeople. Obviously, the reason why these COS spokespeople use hit and run tactics and never support their positions with facts is because the facts show that it is, in fact, a dangerous cult, monetarily profiting through the destruction of lives. The question is, where has the mainstream press been?

Dear Lucas Dobson,

Please stop the ridiculous, baseless smear campaign against Anonymous. It really is only making you look foolish. Perhaps one day you'll stop being so hateful and blind. Perhaps one day we may become friends?

Sincerely,

Jason Bourne

We are legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. We've got /b/lackup

aNON, Send your credit card number and then post the letter online. Put your money where your mouth is!

The mostly children who are members of Anonymous should go clean their room, or maybe read an actual book or even listen to some rock and roll and dye their hair purple. Perhaps they could do something about some actual bad conditions in life (Darfur, the Middle East crisis, poverty, police brutality -- I can think of dozens of real causes). They are such completely dupes it's frightening to see them just regurgitate these lies again and again and have no idea what Scientology is or does.

L. Ron Hubbard's works speak for themselves. He wrote a constitution for an African nation (then Rhodesia) that called for one man, one vote, something that led to him being kicked out of the country by the racist government. And the whole point of Scientology is that we are spiritual beings, not bodies so right there the racism issues goes out the window. Hubbard's secular works are used in inner city communities around the country and the world to improve conditions, meaning get people off of drugs, educate them, rehabilitate criminals, etc.

And what have the members of Anonymous produced, hmmm. I'm hearing an awful lot of crickets.

Hey, if you don't like Scientology, don't do it. (Believe you me we don't want you!) But know what it is you're so adamantly against, instead of quoting anonymous letters that can't be produced. Ohhhh riiight, hiding behind that anonymous cloak is the entirety of your game. I get it!

As for me I can't wait to make my next donation to the Church. I get an actual, tangible benefit for my donations. Happy to do it, in fact. Reminds me of a story some years back when the Church asked the largest donors to the Church to speak to a media outlet. Surprise, surprise but the show didn't care to talk to them, then raised the money question.

I've been a Scientologist for 20 years, with a happy marriage, a strong and loving family (not all are members of my religion), a rewarding career and interesting hobbies, including work for human rights internationally.
Scientology helped me to have these things, and helped me learn to create fulfilling relationships. There's a lot of "information" on the internet that just isn't true - like small-town gossip, it's best to look for yourself to get facts, not to just rely on others' opinions.

These racist 'quotes' are red herrings to make Scientologists appear to be something they are not and to foster hatred toward Scientologists.

The silliness that is "Anonymous" is veering towards serious instigation of hate crimes. Guilt by association was a favorite tactic of McCarthyists and resulted in a very dark period of American history.

That is truly Anonymous' goal. Isolation and castigation of Scientologists and eventual harm, perhaps even death.

Anonymous may deny it and say they have altruistic purposes but, really, are we so innocent to truly believe that Anonymous is a positive, loving organization attempting something beautiful?

Nope. Just a bunch of anarchists with their own agendas and desires for notoriety even oxymoronically under the heading "Anonymous."

I wonder when Anonymous will figure out that they are just being manipulated by former Scientologists to achieve their personal ends?

I guess they probably won't. They don't seem to have the critical thinking skills to work it out.

Again, if Scientology is so benevolent why do you have to pay for their services to understand their religion? why do you have to pay to get the secret documents about Xenu? Why does Scientology hog all this for themselves and not offer it to be studied?

Scientology labels those who dare oppose them or disagree with them as terrorists, racists, communists, or whatever word they think sounds big and scary. It is documented that they believe those who oppose them are SPs and must be purged from the Earth. Anyone who opposes them is criminal in their mind, which is why you will hear what is your crime if you want to get the truth from them. Scientology will always attack and never defend because it distracts people from their draconian, cultist, practices.

Look up the Fishman Affidavit, Free Zone, Operation Snow White, Operation Freak Out, Paulette Cooper, Lisa McPherson. As more and more people blow from the church we hear more and more disturbing stories.

Scientology.org is short on all these answers and does not even describe their religion fully.

I laugh whenever I hear of Scientology "study methods." If these methods were so amazing we would see real scientists peer review and study them and propose improvements and implementation in a wider range of schools. Fact is, they're merely another way for Scientology to consume another aspect of your life. The fact that they don't want anyone going near them and writing critical analysis (and if any analysis is done, they immediately rebut with results data that they can't provide proof of) is telling enough.

It doesn't matter how ineffective they are at it – Scientology wants to be your medicine, your education, your employment, everything. Falsifying statistics is child's play when all the test subjects and all of the institutions are completely under the umbrella of the ones producing the stats, and can't be seen or heard from by the outside world.

Also, to the Scientologists here, I can assure you you're all under OTIII and have no clue what you are talking about beyond all the pamphlets and fake percentages they make you memorize. But it's fine, I believe you can say nothing better, therefore I don't expect you to.