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Comedian Works His Scientology Threat Letter Into His Act

By John DeSio, Wednesday, Jun. 25 2008 @ 12:00PM
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He doesn't get into the Scientology stuff until a minute or so into it, so be patient.

If you’ve participated in an anti-Scientology rally as part of “Anonymous,” and if the Church figured out your identity, chances are you’ve received a letter accusing you of inciting violence against Church outposts and engaging in terroristic activities.
Some, like Queens Anon Mike Vitale, were emboldened by the letter to continue their criticisms of the Church of Scientology. When comedian Billy Lyday received his own threatening letter from Scientology attorneys after he attended a Los Angeles protest, he worked his own response to the Church into his act.

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Anne says:

Silly Scientology. Stop acting like Nazis and people'll stop treating you like them.

Posted On: Wednesday, Jun. 25 2008 @ 12:52PM
Artoo45 says:

At the last rally I got into it with a scilon about the scifi origins of her creed. She said prove it. I did better . . .

http://www.vimeo.com/1227000?pg=transcoded_embed&sec=1227000

Posted On: Wednesday, Jun. 25 2008 @ 1:30PM
Been There says:

Scientology is a cult. A gobal scam.

L. Ron Hubbard was nuts. His space opera and alien ramblings is crazy stuff and anyone that believes it should get their Jedi costume on and go to the nearest Starwars convention.

"Make money, make more money, have others make money for you!!" LRH

:-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnUbdAw9V4Y

Posted On: Wednesday, Jun. 25 2008 @ 2:19PM
Chuck Beatty says:

"OFFICE OF SPECIAL AFFAIRS NETWORK ORDER
15, 18 February 1988 Confidential BLACK PROPAGANDA (Originally written by LRH on 12 January 1972. Issued as OSA NW Order on 18 February 1988.) ... To cease to be the effect of classification and become in our turn the cause of it, the classifier, is to win the propaganda game. Our propaganda is dirty.... We do this trick by survey and attack.... we become re-classified as attackers and the enemy as bad hats as they're for the evil if they attack us... We just run propaganda campaigns....It reclassifies our attackers as evil people... we (1) Seek to avoid opportunities for the enemy to classify us. (2) Contest or expose any previous classifications as false (dead agentry, etc.) (3) Engage in a series of campaigns which confuse past classification. (4) Achieve for ourselves a dominance in classifying ourselves and others." "L. RON HUBBARD, Founder , Adopted as official Church policy by CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY INTERNATIONAL “

"16 FEBRUARY 1969 ISSUE IV REISSUED 24 SEPTEMBER (Reissued with updated distribution.)" "Limited Distribution: OSA NW [Office of Special Affairs Network], IMEC [International Management Executive Committee, consisting of the Watchdog Committee and the Executive Strata and other leadership positions from Scientology movement's top bureaucratic ranks], PRs" "Confidential" "TARGETS, DEFENSE" ".....The errors we have made have been:...4. Failing to attack early and hard.....7. Not learning enemy tactics and using and bettering them." "....B. Our next best defense line was being sure the public knew we were a Church." "...The vital targets on which we must invest most of our time are: ...Depopularizing the enemy to a point of total obliteration." "....Use all other similar groups as allies."
“L. RON HUBBARD” “Founder” “Adopted as official Church policy by CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY INTERNATIONAL”

Posted On: Wednesday, Jun. 25 2008 @ 3:34PM
Xenu says:

Always remember. If Scientology ever became fully accepted and gained control over the laws of our country we'd all be in jail.

Posted On: Wednesday, Jun. 25 2008 @ 6:45PM
Luana1980 says:

scientology has a program called the REHABILITATION PROJECT FORCE. If you don't recruit enough new people they send you to the REHABILITATION camp!!! How in the hell is scientology a "charitable" organization? It is a festering wound on humanity.

Posted On: Wednesday, Jun. 25 2008 @ 6:53PM
Henk de Vries says:

So Germany took a look at the Rehabilitation Project force and the global domination stuff in Scientology and said "no thanks, we already tried that crazy totalitarian stuff, and it wasn't as fun as it was made out to be".

Posted On: Wednesday, Jun. 25 2008 @ 7:42PM
xenus helper says:

quote "Always remember. If Scientology ever became fully accepted and gained control over the laws of our country we'd all be in jail.

Posted by: Xenu at June 25, 2008 6:45 PM

Wrong.

We would be deleted, quietly and without sorrow. LRH

Posted On: Wednesday, Jun. 25 2008 @ 8:46PM
Jeanne says:

I'm frankly so sick of this crap. They send bomb threats and pseudo-anthrax, and wear masks to protect themselves? Come again? If you don't want to be associated with terrorists, don't go out and play with them.

Posted On: Wednesday, Jun. 25 2008 @ 9:12PM
KeeKee says:

"Jeanne"

Let me guess..."I'm not a scientologist but..." right?

Can you prove what you wrote above? It is scientology that has a long history of calling in fake bomb threats. Google Paulette Cooper, watch the latest BBC documentary on scietology (available on Youtube) and watch the CNN interview with Tommy Davis (available on Youtube) - CNN correstpondent John Roberts told Tommy that the FBI looked into scientology's claims that Anonymous sent in bomb threats and they could find nothing to support scientology's lies.

Jeanne, if you aren't a cult of scientology member then get informed before you post. If you are a member of this cult then get informed and do yourself and your family a favor - GET OUT NOW!

Posted On: Wednesday, Jun. 25 2008 @ 11:12PM
lol says:

oh jeanne, why do you make it so easy?

of all that you said, you got one thing right. we use those masks to PROTECT ourselves. from the cult of scientology. im glad you recognized the significance.

thanks for playing.

Posted On: Wednesday, Jun. 25 2008 @ 11:53PM
bob dobbs says:

Hey Jeanne, I asked Terryeo 5 months ago now what proof he had that Anonymous sent pseudo-anthrax, he has'nt responded yet, can you? Maybe you and he and the other handlers can get together and at least come up with something that sounds plausible.

Posted On: Thursday, Jun. 26 2008 @ 12:11AM
gargy says:

Dear Jeanne,
The church of $cientology sent white powder and bomb threats TO THEMSELVES. That's what your OSA DOES. Those tricks didn't fool anyone, except apparently, you. ;)

We can help you (and free of charge, I might add). When you've had enough of the craziness and stupidity of David Miscavige, come and join us, like Tory Magoo did. Have you seen any of her videos? She is radiantly happy and having the most fun of her entire life. You can too.

Posted On: Thursday, Jun. 26 2008 @ 12:41AM
Bob says:

Hey Jeanne - Proof or it didn't happen.

Posted On: Thursday, Jun. 26 2008 @ 3:18AM
Janie says:

Hey there, Jeanne,

I'm frankly so sick of this crap. [The Church of Scientology] sends bomb threats (Google Operation Dynamite + Paulette Cooper) and pseudo-anthrax [to itself, to generate sympathy] and wear masks [of religion] to protect themselves? Come again? If you don't want to be associated with terrorist [organizations like the Church of Scientology], don't go out and play with them.

Posted On: Thursday, Jun. 26 2008 @ 3:41AM
Lucy says:

"I'm frankly so sick of this crap. They send bomb threats and pseudo-anthrax, and wear masks to protect themselves? Come again? If you don't want to be associated with terrorists, don't go out and play with them."

Posted by: Jeanne at June 25, 2008 9:12 PM


You know, it's funny. The minute someone says anything against scientology the "church" recieves mysterious packages and bomb threats. They even said that the BBC were terrorists. It kind of loses credibility when you read that the "church" framed Paulette Cooper for the exact same thing.

It does make you wonder, if they've nothing to hide why do they always dodge questions and call the askers terrorists?

Posted On: Thursday, Jun. 26 2008 @ 7:32AM
Staturday says:

Jeanne:

If any of you would accept even the smallest sliver of responsibility for the crimes perpetrated by Scientology (some of which have been proven in court), I would take you seriously. Problem is, you don't.

So in my eyes, you're just another cult shill.

http://staturday.wordpress.com

Posted On: Thursday, Jun. 26 2008 @ 7:58AM
Richard says:

Jeanne: I see you're a Scientologist.

1. We wear masks to protect ourselves from Scientologists - I have had scientologists follow me home from protests with cameras.

2. We aren't terrorists. We have *never* sent out bomb threats since the start of our Mark Bunker era. The FBI turned down the Church's request to ivnestigate 'anthrax', saying that it was 'patently obvious' that the anti-Scientology movement were not involved at all.

3. If you would like to press charges on me, personally, for being a terrorist, please e-mail me the details of the event in question which Anonymous perpetrated, and I'll happily stand in court and flatten you with evidence to the contrary.

Posted On: Thursday, Jun. 26 2008 @ 8:40AM
Lucas Dobson says:

All you Scilon haters need to learn how to think critically.

Sheeple can't be trusted to keep their bodies fit and their bills paid, what makes them think they are the authorities on religion?

Because they inherited one? Or spent 80 hours in the internet reading boilerplate conspiracy-muck?

Leave Anonymous. Go back to your virtual-reality videogame genocide, you pigs.

Posted On: Thursday, Jun. 26 2008 @ 8:53AM
Observer says:

Quote "I'm frankly so sick of this crap. They send bomb threats and pseudo-anthrax, and wear masks to protect themselves? Come again? If you don't want to be associated with terrorists, don't go out and play with them. "

@Jeanne- You really need to go and educate yourself regarding this global protest phenomenon. All is takes is to google "Fair Game" to get started. 99.999% of these protester are proactive concerned young activists. Your ignorance dishonors them.

Posted On: Thursday, Jun. 26 2008 @ 9:50AM
Lucas Dobson says:

I'm frankly so sick of this crap. They send bomb threats and pseudo-anthrax, and wear masks to protect themselves? Come again? If you don't want to be associated with terrorists, don't go out and play with them.

Posted On: Thursday, Jun. 26 2008 @ 10:45AM
Mary McConnell says:

Another great article and find by DeSio and The Village Voice. Scientology is a bully operation. If only it ended with threatening letters to individuals. See what they did to bully the IRS and how it effects all of us:

Message to American Taxpayers: Scientology's secret IRS deal
http://www.vimeo.com/1078519

Dear American taxpayers,
You may be surprised to learn that in America, one group enjoys a tax-exemption and special privileges from the IRS, privileges that go beyond those afforded to any other taxpayer.

Also surprising is the fact that for over 25 years, the IRS fought against this group in the courts, arguing that it did not qualify for any tax-exemption due to "the commercial character" of much of the groups operations, and its "virtually incomprehensible financial procedures".

In 1991, an unusual meeting was held between the leader of the group (David Miscavige) and the IRS Commissioner (Fred T. Goldberg Jr.).
A complete reversal of the IRS' position came into effect in October 1993.

A secret deal now provides this group with rights that exceed those of the average citizen.

This group and its associated corporations are known by various names, including:
Church of Scientology International
Church of Spiritual Technology
Religious Technology Center

Front Groups include:
Applied Scholastics
Narconon
Criminon
Citizen's Commission on Human Rights

Scientologists are able to claim tax-deductions of a nature that is prohibited for members of any other group.

According to The New York Times:
* The exemption followed a series of unusual internal IRS actions that came after an extraordinary campaign orchestrated by Scientology against the agency and people who work there.
* Scientology's lawyers hired private investigators to dig into the private lives of IRS officials and to conduct surveillance operations to uncover potential vulnerabilities, according to interviews and documents.
*One investigator said he had...taken documents from an IRS conference and sent them to church officials and created a phony news bureau in Washington to gather information on church critics. The church also financed an organization of IRS whistle-blowers that attacked the agency publicly.
* The decision to negotiate with the church came after Fred T. Goldberg Jr., the commissioner of the Internal Revenue Service at the time, had an unusual meeting with Miscavige in 1991. Scientology's own version of what occurred offers a remarkable account of how the church leader walked into IRS headquarters without an appointment and got in to see Goldberg, the nation's top tax official. Miscavige offered to call a halt to Scientology's suits against the IRS in exchange for tax exemptions.
* After that meeting, Goldberg created a special committee to negotiate a settlement with Scientology outside normal agency procedures. IRS tax analysts were ordered to ignore the substantive issues in reviewing the decision, according to IRS memorandums and court files.
* The IRS refused to disclose any terms of the agreement, including whether the church was required to pay back taxes... the position is in stark contrast to the agency's handling of some other church organizations.

The U.S. Constitution upholds the principle of the separation of Church and State. The Establishment Clause of the First Amendment ensures Government policy remains neutral towards religious groups. According to the Constitution, one religious group should not receive special treatment by the U.S. Government.

On February 4, 2008, before three judges of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, Jeffrey Zuckerman represented Michael and Marla Sklar, who were refused tax-deductions for the religious component of their children's education. Their deduction was refused because they are not Scientologists.

Judge Kim Wardlaw summarized the situation:

"The view of the IRS is that it can unconstitutionally violate the Constitution by establishing religion, by treating one religion more favorably than other religions in terms of what it allows as deductions, and there can never be any judicial review of that?"

Ellen Delsole, a Justice Department lawyer representing the IRS, suggested the IRS should be allowed to violate the Constitution by "giving, conceding something to one person, one group, in exchange for a payment."

Judge Wardlaw countered:
"You are saying now that it's okay as long as the IRS gets some money?"

"This does intrude into the Establishment Clause. The whole point is Government neutrality towards religion, and that's exactly what the IRS is not doing here" [..] and more
http://www.vimeo.com/1078519

Posted On: Thursday, Jun. 26 2008 @ 12:23PM
Gerard Ofman says:

"In addition to violating and abusing its own members' civil rights, the organization over the years with its 'fair game' doctrine has harassed and abused those persons not in the church whom it perceives as enemies."

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Paul Breckenridge, June 1984, in the Gerry Armstrong case


"L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology, has been quoted as
looking upon law as a tool to

[h]arass and discourage rather than to win.The law can be used very easily to harass and enough harassment on somebody who is simply on the thin edge anyway, well knowing that he is not authorized, will generally be sufficientto cause his professional decease.If possible, of course, ruin him utterly."

-- Judge Brinkema, U.S. Eastern Virginia District Court,
11/28/95, No. 95-1107-A (RTC [Scientology shell corp.] v. Lerma,
Digital..., Washington Post, et. al.)

"The invidiousness of the alleged conspiracy is best reflected in
the fact that plaintiff was sued 21 times over the course of a 17-
month period in jurisdictions ranging from New York to California.... we hold that plaintiff has sufficiently alleged the elements of the tort of malicious prosecution and, for purposes of
this case, the tort of civil conspiracy to commit malicious
prosecution."
-- Chief Justice Freeman, Illinois Supreme Court, 9/18/97, No. 80868 (Cult Awareness Network v. Church of Scientology, et. al.)

Because after all US judges are nothing but crack pot conspiracy theory nuts right? After reading the comments by some of the scientologists, I felt compelled to mention that David Miscavige is altering Scientology doctrine. That is a high crime and as a scientologist it is your duty to report him.

Posted On: Thursday, Jun. 26 2008 @ 1:10PM
Chester Fields says:

Just for the record.

From Scientology spokesman Tommy Davis on CNN
Tommy Davis: You know, John, the reality on it is… In our case, we are dealing with things like 96 death threats, bomb threads, acts of vandalism… you know, this kind of things that are very destructive and very harmful. And we have to take measures on our part to ensure the protection of our facilities and our parishioners and their physical well-being as a general rule. When you are talking about this group, and referring them to… and referring to them as cyber-terrorists, you know… these are the type of people who put together imagery and tended to cause epileptic seizures [01:00] and then hacking it on the Epileptic foundation’s website and throwing it up there, trying to cause people having epileptic seizures and they do this kind of things for laughs They say this themselves…

John Roberts: You are leveling these accusations at this group. The FBI, which is looking into it, says it has found nothing to connect this group Anonymous with what you are talking about, or death threats against members of the church. The FBI, at this point, says: it has no reason to believe that charges will be leveled against this group.

Posted On: Thursday, Jun. 26 2008 @ 1:17PM
Critical Thinker says:

Quote "All you Scilon haters need to learn how to think critically.

"Sheeple can't be trusted to keep their bodies fit and their bills paid, what makes them think they are the authorities on religion?

"Because they inherited one? Or spent 80 hours in the internet reading boilerplate conspiracy-muck?

"Leave Anonymous. Go back to your virtual-reality videogame genocide, you pigs."

_______________________________________
@Lucas Dobson: I think your post, in and of itself, reveals to any critical thinker that you, the poster, are not one. Good job!

Anyway, you certainly do demonstrate the authoritarian attitude of the CoS which would love to restrict the human rights of "sheeple" as you call us. Google "RPF" to find out more about the CoS rehabilitation prisoners.

You also are incorrect to assume anyone who posts a critical view here of CoS is part of annonymous. Most are just educated concerned citizens, not Annon members. So you still think we are all pigs?

Posted On: Thursday, Jun. 26 2008 @ 2:45PM
Tony Clifton says:

I love Scientologists! I do a daily web search for CoS articles and there's always a good chuckle in there somewhere. The web is rich with anti-CoS sentiment, and I love it! Hey, what do you guys think about a Scientology-based Reality Show? We could call it "Who Wants to be an OTVIII?" Contestants would be hooked up to e-meters and go through grueling sec checks every week, with one losing contestant sent to the RPF at the end of every episode. The contestants will have to declare Fair Game on each other in order to win. The final winner will be declared OTVIII -- and their prize will be chance to buy the complete works of L. Ron Hubbard at 15% off!

Posted On: Thursday, Jun. 26 2008 @ 5:31PM
Jason says:

Yeah Tony, it's great! It's like an adventure story that's really actually happening.

The evil crook baddy Scientology with it's brainwashed robot henchmen is being single-handedly unravelled by our plucky unassuming heroes who call themselves "Anonymous".

I love to see the next drama that's going to unfold by going to google news and typing in "scientology".

Posted On: Friday, Jun. 27 2008 @ 8:02PM
Portland Anonymous says:

Billy Lyday is great! "Shame on you Scientology for hoarding America's #1 export: has-been celebrities." HA!

Posted On: Saturday, Jun. 28 2008 @ 9:07AM
Anonymous says:

About Mary Mconell's post on the IRS and the Scientology leader meating them at their own game, I find it ironic! - You know, that the IRS is not part of our constitution, right? Anyway, great video, so sorry Jeannea acted like a robot and just combed the internet to cut and paste moot information about a phenomenon called Anonymous which really isn't organized at all.. It's just a "Happening" and this turning on our youth who speak out is shooting Scientology in the foot.

I think Tom Cruise, John Travolta and Kirsty Alley need to take a serious look at the people they are fucking with and start to realize they are getting "Special Treatment" and start to help the supressed IN THEIR OWN FUCKING CHURCH!

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